Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes
Anything we can do to help out in the process. I'm a bit hesitant to publish when you can't change your submission afterward. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 10:28 PM wrote: > I love this idea as well. Doubly so if the automated tests could be well > known and sled performed by hosts before upload. > > On Jul 5, 2020 16:15, "Thaj A. Sara" wrote: > > I am 100% for this. > > Jul 5, 2020 7:04:19 AM Ken Fallon : > > > Hi All, > > > > Most of the shows we process require us to make some level of > > modifications to get them posted. This ranges from fixing tags to a > > complete rewrite of the shownotes, or verifying whether intros were > > actually added or not. > > > > Each modification that we make means that it requires more human > > intervention and prevents us from being able to completely automate the > > upload process. In addition there is a non trivial amount of time needed > > to fix these issues. This can range from a few minutes to an hour or > > more per show, and with 260 shows a year this mounts up. > > > > We normally don't contact hosts about these issues as it is usually > > quicker to fix the issues than composing emails, and waiting for the > > reply that may never come. For the most part our experience has been > > that hosts are more than willing to fix these issues if they are aware > > of them. > > > > As part of the ongoing steps toward automation, would hosts be open to > > the idea of getting a processing report once we have posted the show? > > This would list all the issues the test tools found and the steps that > > we needed to take to rectify them. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Ken Fallon > > http://kenfallon.com > > http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 > > > > ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > > ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes
If the contributor agrees, could show processing fixes being published with the episode? It would be helpful to future hosts to see common issues. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 6:04 AM Ken Fallon wrote: > Hi All, > > Most of the shows we process require us to make some level of > modifications to get them posted. This ranges from fixing tags to a > complete rewrite of the shownotes, or verifying whether intros were > actually added or not. > > Each modification that we make means that it requires more human > intervention and prevents us from being able to completely automate the > upload process. In addition there is a non trivial amount of time needed > to fix these issues. This can range from a few minutes to an hour or > more per show, and with 260 shows a year this mounts up. > > We normally don't contact hosts about these issues as it is usually > quicker to fix the issues than composing emails, and waiting for the > reply that may never come. For the most part our experience has been > that hosts are more than willing to fix these issues if they are aware > of them. > > As part of the ongoing steps toward automation, would hosts be open to > the idea of getting a processing report once we have posted the show? > This would list all the issues the test tools found and the steps that > we needed to take to rectify them. > > -- > Regards, > > Ken Fallon > http://kenfallon.com > http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 > > ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes
I love this idea as well. Doubly so if the automated tests could be well known and sled performed by hosts before upload. On Jul 5, 2020 16:15, "Thaj A. Sara" wrote:I am 100% for this. Jul 5, 2020 7:04:19 AM Ken Fallon : > Hi All, > > Most of the shows we process require us to make some level of > modifications to get them posted. This ranges from fixing tags to a > complete rewrite of the shownotes, or verifying whether intros were > actually added or not. > > Each modification that we make means that it requires more human > intervention and prevents us from being able to completely automate the > upload process. In addition there is a non trivial amount of time needed > to fix these issues. This can range from a few minutes to an hour or > more per show, and with 260 shows a year this mounts up. > > We normally don't contact hosts about these issues as it is usually > quicker to fix the issues than composing emails, and waiting for the > reply that may never come. For the most part our experience has been > that hosts are more than willing to fix these issues if they are aware > of them. > > As part of the ongoing steps toward automation, would hosts be open to > the idea of getting a processing report once we have posted the show? > This would list all the issues the test tools found and the steps that > we needed to take to rectify them. > > -- > Regards, > > Ken Fallon > http://kenfallon.com > http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes
I'm down with that as well. The more info, the better, that way we can improve it for HPR as a whole. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 7:03 AM Ken Fallon wrote: > Hi All, > > Most of the shows we process require us to make some level of > modifications to get them posted. This ranges from fixing tags to a > complete rewrite of the shownotes, or verifying whether intros were > actually added or not. > > Each modification that we make means that it requires more human > intervention and prevents us from being able to completely automate the > upload process. In addition there is a non trivial amount of time needed > to fix these issues. This can range from a few minutes to an hour or > more per show, and with 260 shows a year this mounts up. > > We normally don't contact hosts about these issues as it is usually > quicker to fix the issues than composing emails, and waiting for the > reply that may never come. For the most part our experience has been > that hosts are more than willing to fix these issues if they are aware > of them. > > As part of the ongoing steps toward automation, would hosts be open to > the idea of getting a processing report once we have posted the show? > This would list all the issues the test tools found and the steps that > we needed to take to rectify them. > > -- > Regards, > > Ken Fallon > http://kenfallon.com > http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 > > ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > -- Claudio Miranda Contributor - Hacker Public Radio http://hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes
I like the idea a lot. Having a list of things that didn't go smoothly means I can make targeted process improvements for the next submission. ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes
If it makes your life easier, I think it's a brilliant idea. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 7:09 AM Andrew Conway wrote: > Yes, that error feedback seems like a good idea. > > Andrew > ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes
Yes, that error feedback seems like a good idea. Andrew ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
