Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Michael Havens]

thank you for that!

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Abrimaal  wrote:

> Open the Panorama Editor
> View the same image in two panels
> To remove: click on the point and Delete
> To add: click on the picture in panel 1 and panel 2, then Fine-Tune
> Next image pair, repeat for all
> Align again
>
> On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 1:32:55 PM UTC+2, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> How do you place/remove vertical lines?
>> Regardless, I started the computer today, opened a .pto and the crop was
>> correct. I'll look at the crop tab next time this happens.
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Abrimaal]

Open the Panorama Editor
View the same image in two panels
To remove: click on the point and Delete
To add: click on the picture in panel 1 and panel 2, then Fine-Tune
Next image pair, repeat for all
Align again

On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 1:32:55 PM UTC+2, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> How do you place/remove vertical lines?
> Regardless, I started the computer today, opened a .pto and the crop was 
> correct. I'll look at the crop tab next time this happens.
> Thanks.
>
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Terry Duell]

Hello Michael,

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:32:30 +1000, Michael Havens  
 wrote:



How do you place/remove vertical lines?
Have a read of tutorials if you haven't already done so, I think much of  
this covered but probably using the old interface. If it all still a  
mystery please ask again and I'm sure someone will give some detailed help.



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Michael Havens]

How do you place/remove vertical lines?
Regardless, I started the computer today, opened a .pto and the crop was
correct. I'll look at the crop tab next time this happens.
Thanks.



On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Abrimaal  wrote:

> I usually take photos for panoramas in the portrait orientation, because
> it is simpler to stitch less rows of photos that cover almost the same
> area.
> In this case you should
> - when you take photos, rotate the camera around its axes, that the matrix
> is always in the same place, it will avoid parallax shift.
> - adjust the vertical lines, remove the wrong ones and add some manually
> - use cylindrical, equirectangular or Mercator projection
> - remove some control points placed on the nearest objects
>
>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 5:35:01 AM UTC+2, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> I've been trying to do indoor panorama with no success. Until I turned
>> the camera on it's side and took a series of 5 portrait oriented
>> photographs. The resulting panorama was on it's side but other than that it
>> was perfect.
>>  The attached file is the final image after it has been rotated
>>
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[hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Abrimaal]

I usually take photos for panoramas in the portrait orientation, because it 
is simpler to stitch less rows of photos that cover almost the same area. 
In this case you should 
- when you take photos, rotate the camera around its axes, that the matrix 
is always in the same place, it will avoid parallax shift.
- adjust the vertical lines, remove the wrong ones and add some manually
- use cylindrical, equirectangular or Mercator projection
- remove some control points placed on the nearest objects 


On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 5:35:01 AM UTC+2, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> I've been trying to do indoor panorama with no success. Until I turned the 
> camera on it's side and took a series of 5 portrait oriented photographs. 
> The resulting panorama was on it's side but other than that it was perfect. 
>   
>  The attached file is the final image after it has been rotated
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Terry Duell]

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 09:54:34 +1000, Michael Havens  
 wrote:



Do you think installing the release candidate will fix this?



Not sure, I can't recall any of the recent versions doing that.
If you start the project from scratch (i.e. don't load in an existing  
.pto), by loading your images, finding control points and optimising, then  
open the Fast Panorama preview window, does it display a cropped image, or  
is the crop boundary set to it's maximum i.e at the edges of the FPp  
window?



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Terry Duell]

Hello Michael,

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 09:51:21 +1000, Michael Havens  
 wrote:



okay, but what about this image were it mostly works? How do I get that
light rectange (which is what is showing up in the panorama)  to be  
bigger?

[image: Inline image 1]



Did you set those crop boundaries or did it just happen to be like that?
If I understand your problem correctly, just go to the Crop tab and drag  
the boundaries to where you want them, or simply select 'autocrop', then  
you can manually adjust the boundaries from there.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Terry Duell]

Hello Michael,

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 09:17:39 +1000, Michael Havens  
 wrote:


well, I figured out that I got lucky with this panorama. most of my  
indoor panoramas don't turn out. I am told this is due to paralax.




OK, that is a common problem shooting handheld and particularly indoors  
where you often have items close to the camera.
You can reduce parallax by being careful with the way you rotate the  
camera, to ensure you do it about the nodal point, and by using masking to  
selectively avoid the parallax errors in the stitch.
If you haven't already done so, do a bit of reading on how to find your  
nodal point, and search for methods of shooting handheld panos. The string  
and drop-weight trick is a good one to help you get a good idea of how to  
do it.

Let's know if you still have any other problems with hugin.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Michael Havens]

well, I figured out that I got lucky with this panorama. most of my indoor
panoramas don't turn out. I am told this is due to paralax.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Terry Duell  wrote:

> Hello Michael,
>
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:59:43 +1000, Michael Havens <
> havens.busin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> info:
>> Operating System: Linux 3.19.0-32-generic x86_64
>> Architecture: 64 bit
>> Free memory: 140052198648283 kiB
>>
>> Hugin
>> Version: 2016.0.0.3b4e2790cb90
>> Path to resources: /usr/share/hugin/xrc/
>> Path to data: /usr/share/hugin/data/
>> Hugins camera and lens database: /home/bmike1/.hugindata/camlens.db
>> Multi-threading using C++11 std::thread and OpenMP
>> Monitor profile: Screen 1 #1 2016-06-29 13-30 S XYZLUT+MTX
>>
>>
>
> OK, thanks for that.
>
> You provided the portrait images...I thought your initial problem was that
>>> hugin couldn't handle your images shot in landscape, so why provide the
>>> portrait images?
>>>
>>
> So, is there still a problem with landscape images that we need to sort
> out?
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Terry Duell]

Hello Michael,

On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:59:43 +1000, Michael Havens  
 wrote:



info:
Operating System: Linux 3.19.0-32-generic x86_64
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Hugin
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Hugins camera and lens database: /home/bmike1/.hugindata/camlens.db
Multi-threading using C++11 std::thread and OpenMP
Monitor profile: Screen 1 #1 2016-06-29 13-30 S XYZLUT+MTX




OK, thanks for that.

You provided the portrait images...I thought your initial problem was  
that hugin couldn't handle your images shot in landscape, so why  
provide the

portrait images?


So, is there still a problem with landscape images that we need to sort  
out?


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Terry Duell  wrote:

> Hello Michael,
>
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:38:24 +1000, Michael Havens <
> havens.busin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> pto file is attached and here is the link:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2xvsVTZy4y1Nk5vZWNzMkpyUVU
>> I also included the first portrait pano I did. It was less successful
>> than this one butbetter than any other I had done before.
>>
>>
> I loaded your images into hugin-2016.2.00-RC1, and didn't have any
> problems at all, see the screenshot attached. I have also included my .pto
> file.
> You provided the portrait images...I thought your initial problem was that
> hugin couldn't handle your images shot in landscape, so why provide the
> portrait images?
>
> What OS and version of hugin are using
>
> Cheers,
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[hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

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Michael Havens  writes:

> pto file is attached and here is the link:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2xvsVTZy4y1Nk5vZWNzMkpyUVU

this is my take on it:

http://caliban.lbl.gov/DSC_0319-DSC_0323.tif

attached the pto file:



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Michael Havens 
5:34 PM (1 hour ago)
to Alex
Very good. How did you do it?

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>
Alex Romosan
5:45 PM (1 hour ago)
to me
Michael Havens  writes:

> Very good. How did you do it?

loaded the images into the latest hugin, generated control points and
vertical lines for all the images and then went through the optimization
steps up to everything without translation. autocropped the file and
saved it. loaded into gimp to auto correct the white balance. this was
done on linux.
Michael Havens 
6:39 PM (12 minutes ago)
to Alex
I thought that it may have been that I didn't optimize but that turned out
not to be the problem. When I run align it automatically finds vertical
lines so it doesn't ask me to do it. Well, after fiddling with it a bit I
find that if I click 'straighten' in the align/move tab it gives me what I
want but when I click the 'create panorama' button only a small part of of
the desired image is stitched together (images two and three). Any Ideas as
to what is wrong?

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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Alex Romosan 
wrote:

> Michael Havens  writes:
>
> > pto file is attached and here is the link:
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2xvsVTZy4y1Nk5vZWNzMkpyUVU
>
> this is my take on it:
>
> http://caliban.lbl.gov/DSC_0319-DSC_0323.tif
>
> attached the pto file:
>
>
>
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[hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

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Michael Havens  writes:

> pto file is attached and here is the link:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2xvsVTZy4y1Nk5vZWNzMkpyUVU

this is my take on it:

http://caliban.lbl.gov/DSC_0319-DSC_0323.tif

attached the pto file:

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Michael Havens]

pto file is attached and here is the link:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2xvsVTZy4y1Nk5vZWNzMkpyUVU
I also included the first portrait pano I did. It was less successful than 
this one butbetter than any other I had done before.

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 12:38:24 AM UTC-4, Tduell wrote:
>
> Hello Michael, 
>
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:47:16 +1000, Michael Havens   
>  wrote: 
>
> > I struggled with sharing that because I am afraid that now that I shared 
> > this it is going to be 'fixed' but the fix will make it worse. 
>
> Hard to see how a fix will make it worse. 
>
> > 
> > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:35:01 PM UTC-4, Michael Havens 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I've been trying to do indoor panorama with no success. Until I turned 
>   
> >> the camera on it's side and took a series of 5 portrait oriented   
> >> photographs. 
> >> The resulting panorama was on it's side but other than that it was   
> >> perfect. 
> >> 
> >>  The attached file is the final image after it has been rotated 
>
> It would be helpful to at least provide your .pto file for your original   
> project (the one which was unsuccessful). 
> If you were able to also provide your original 5 images (via Dropbox or   
> similar service) we might be able to get a clear idea of what is going on, 
>   
> so we can either point out what you can do to overcome the issue, or to   
> decide if hugin has a bug. 
>
> Cheers, 
> -- 
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> Terry Duell 
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[David W. Jones]

On 08/24/2016 06:38 PM, Terry Duell wrote:

Hello Michael,

On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:47:16 +1000, Michael Havens
 wrote:


I struggled with sharing that because I am afraid that now that I shared
this it is going to be 'fixed' but the fix will make it worse.


Hard to see how a fix will make it worse.



On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:35:01 PM UTC-4, Michael Havens wrote:


I've been trying to do indoor panorama with no success. Until I
turned the camera on it's side and took a series of 5 portrait
oriented photographs.
The resulting panorama was on it's side but other than that it was
perfect.

 The attached file is the final image after it has been rotated


It would be helpful to at least provide your .pto file for your original
project (the one which was unsuccessful).
If you were able to also provide your original 5 images (via Dropbox or
similar service) we might be able to get a clear idea of what is going
on, so we can either point out what you can do to overcome the issue, or
to decide if hugin has a bug.


Also what version of Hugin? I had a version or two ago that would not 
properly align a vertical pano made from portrait shots, but would 
happily produce the same pano (rotated horizontally) if I rotated each 
image outside of Hugin before trying.


Haven't had that problem for a while though. One of the updates seems to 
have fixed it.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Terry Duell]

Hello Michael,

On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:47:16 +1000, Michael Havens  
 wrote:



I struggled with sharing that because I am afraid that now that I shared
this it is going to be 'fixed' but the fix will make it worse.


Hard to see how a fix will make it worse.



On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:35:01 PM UTC-4, Michael Havens wrote:


I've been trying to do indoor panorama with no success. Until I turned  
the camera on it's side and took a series of 5 portrait oriented  
photographs.
The resulting panorama was on it's side but other than that it was  
perfect.


 The attached file is the final image after it has been rotated


It would be helpful to at least provide your .pto file for your original  
project (the one which was unsuccessful).
If you were able to also provide your original 5 images (via Dropbox or  
similar service) we might be able to get a clear idea of what is going on,  
so we can either point out what you can do to overcome the issue, or to  
decide if hugin has a bug.


Cheers,
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Regards,
Terry Duell

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[hugin-ptx] Re: stitch portraits together not landscape

[Michael Havens]

I struggled with sharing that because I am afraid that now that I shared 
this it is going to be 'fixed' but the fix will make it worse.

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 11:35:01 PM UTC-4, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> I've been trying to do indoor panorama with no success. Until I turned the 
> camera on it's side and took a series of 5 portrait oriented photographs. 
> The resulting panorama was on it's side but other than that it was perfect. 
>   
>  The attached file is the final image after it has been rotated
>
>

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