Re: [I2nsf] Definition for "Consumer" in I2NSF terminology , in the context of "Client Facing Interface"

2016-10-17 Thread John Strassner
Well, no it wouldn’t.

Please see my earlier email with respect to client-facing interface. I don’t 
like “client”, it has the wrong connotations for modern software.
A consumer is an entity that is using something (data, services, etc.) that is 
given to it. Which is exactly what this interface is doing.
Tenant has other connotations, and we have not yet designed the framework to be 
truly multi-tenant.
Customer is not appropriate for other reasons (is an agent a customer?).

We had already decided on this before, why is it being brought up again?


Regards,
John

From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 2:50 PM
To: Diego R. Lopez 
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org; John Strassner 
Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Definition for "Consumer" in I2NSF terminology , in the 
context of "Client Facing Interface"

The I2NSF framework currently uses “client-facing –interface”.
Either “Tenant-facing-interface” or “User-facing-interface” would be equivalent.

Linda
From: Diego R. Lopez [mailto:diego.r.lo...@telefonica.com]
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Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Definition for "Consumer" in I2NSF terminology , in the 
context of "Client Facing Interface"

And what about “tenant or “user" rather than “customer”?

Be goode,

On 17 Oct 2016, at 22:28 , Linda Dunbar 
> wrote:

John,

Maybe we should call it “customer-facing-interface” instead of 
“consumer-facing-interface”?

Linda

From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar
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Subject: [I2nsf] Definition for "Consumer" in I2NSF terminology , in the 
context of "Client Facing Interface"

John,

There are two types of interface described in I2NSF framework:
-one is NSF facing interface, over which  rules  or policies can be 
expressed based on ports/IP addresses for packets traversing through a NSF;
-another is the interface for Clients, users, tenants, to express/query 
rules that are expressed in users own ID, address domains, etc. Commonly called 
“Client facing interface”.

You have suggested to use “Consumer facing Interface”. But the definition of 
“Consumer” in I2NSF Terminology -01, doesn’t really reflect the idea of rules 
being expressed from the perspective of clients or users.

If we use this terminology, “Consumer” interface can also face NSFs as well.

  Consumer:  A Consumer is a Role that is assigned to an I2NSF
  Component that can receive information from another I2NSF
  Component.  See also:  Provider, Role.


Can you clarify ?

Thanks, Linda
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Re: [I2nsf] Definition for "Consumer" in I2NSF terminology , in the context of "Client Facing Interface"

2016-10-17 Thread Diego R. Lopez
And what about “tenant or “user" rather than “customer”?

Be goode,

On 17 Oct 2016, at 22:28 , Linda Dunbar 
> wrote:

John,

Maybe we should call it “customer-facing-interface” instead of 
“consumer-facing-interface”?

Linda

From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:23 PM
To: John Strassner >
Cc: i2nsf@ietf.org
Subject: [I2nsf] Definition for "Consumer" in I2NSF terminology , in the 
context of "Client Facing Interface"

John,

There are two types of interface described in I2NSF framework:
-one is NSF facing interface, over which  rules  or policies can be 
expressed based on ports/IP addresses for packets traversing through a NSF;
-another is the interface for Clients, users, tenants, to express/query 
rules that are expressed in users own ID, address domains, etc. Commonly called 
“Client facing interface”.

You have suggested to use “Consumer facing Interface”. But the definition of 
“Consumer” in I2NSF Terminology -01, doesn’t really reflect the idea of rules 
being expressed from the perspective of clients or users.

If we use this terminology, “Consumer” interface can also face NSFs as well.

  Consumer:  A Consumer is a Role that is assigned to an I2NSF
  Component that can receive information from another I2NSF
  Component.  See also:  Provider, Role.


Can you clarify ?

Thanks, Linda
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