Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
Well, this is really what moodle was created for. Especially considering its the main tool used in all XS server implmentations and is in use in at least 40% of British schools. I'm not sure about the American numbers, but pretty sure it must be highly used there too. Creating courses in moodle is not only easy, but extremely powerful, and can be easily shared with other teachers. There are existing general moodle implementations, though none have enough content, including the sugarlabs one (schools.sugarlabs.org) I'm focusing my own efforts on linux-for-education.org, where little by little we're growing the site. The latter has 5 sugar based courses I created and several ubuntu and opensuse courses. Apart from the courses, the glossaries and database modules link straight into the course content, allowing students to easily look up terms used in courses that might be confusing. kind regards, David Van Assche On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki? To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Kellie Doty kmd...@mail.harvard.edu Message-ID: b74fba2b0909091618s103ddaa0oe4e2767f2aa02...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'd like to introduce Kellie Doty, she is a fellow student in the Technology, Education and Innovation program at Harvard Grad School for Education and she is in Intern at Sugar Labs this fall working on the GPA project. Kellyie's role will be to help us develop curriculum, test it at GPA and publish it in a format that will be easy to adopt by other teachers. One of her first tasks will be to take the lessons we did over the summer and try to write them up. One question is where should we put lesson plans? My first thought was wiki.sugarlabs.org our wonderful maze of twisty pages all different. But Kellie pointed out that teachers need to be able to find things through various paths such as subject, grade level and activities used. My second thought was Moodle as it probably has a module for that. +1 for curriki. It has an existing community of teachers to work w/ and it is a good tool, geared to their needs -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Ted Turner http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html - Sports is like a war without the killing. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Electricity and magentism
Hi Caroline, On 10.09.2009, at 02:02, Caroline Meeks wrote: At GPA we will be working with the 4th grade. Their fall science topic is Electricity and magentism. We have the GCompris activity: GCompris Electric 11 Any other suggestions? Maybe the experiences in electricity and magnetism set-up by Tony Forster: http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/xo-electricity-and-magnetism.html Kind regards, Samy ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming
I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering No, there wasn't marketing decided, it was Tomeu who thought of flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit since natural wholesome sugars, a fun treat for kids), and sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. I do clearly remember the problems we encountered due to the disconnect between the development and marketing teams - launch date was moved up, marketing had to work in panic mode; luckily only one publication noticed in the end. Since then efforts have been made by all to stay on the same page. The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the development process. About the logo, it's the blueberriest one we will want, variant 4, the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry launch, variant 6: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest and most fun one. (And we should avoid obscure insider names at all costs - that doesn't help in spreading the word.) I agree Chocolate should be on the shortlist and when the time comes, we should ask Christian for a chocolate-y logo. I like Gooseberry because it is unusual - I haven't picked one since I was a lad and a screenshot of Browse or InfoSlicer with gooseberries will be delightful. Cherry is a good candidate in a year or two (not sooner, we just did a red one). Mango is associated with orange. Raspberry could be a good purple one. Vanilla has the association boring or plain; many parlors call it French Vanilla or Madagascar Vanilla to spice it up. If we are lucky, the flavors will catch on and capture imaginations and the community (maybe even Learners!) will want to suggest future flavors :-) The surprise factor is for everyone who follows us, and particularly those who don't follow us yet: journalists, bloggers, teachers, parents. Good coverage by influential journalists and bloggers is by far the most efficient way to spread the word. Word-of-mouth is incredibly effective too, especially once journalists get ahold of it and amplify it; the best way to build word-of-mouth is to have an incredible offer... SoaS is not there yet since the classroom infrastructure (documentation, local integrators, school server, one-click install, extreme reliability, hardware compatibility list, etc.) is not ready. But that's not a problem, because we said as much in the Strawberry press release - we are building excitement while not overpromising, and steadily improving the offer. To me the best bet would be for developers who work under the hood to stay with the numbering system - it is precise and understandable to initiates (while being unfortunately incomprehensible to outsiders). Perhaps the best example of how this is done well is Apple - every one of their computer models has always had a specific number, but their marketing is centered on names: MacBook, iMac, Mac Pro. There have been 50 million or so iPods sold, with the line renewed every six months, and each line having variants; every model has a development number, but they are all iPods and are only differentiated in marketing as classic, nano, shuffle, and touch. Consumers have a crystal-clear idea of what an iPod is and does. I saw on the SoaS roadmap page an entry RH magazine story to be confirmed. Unfortunately there's no surer way to kill a news story than to talk about it months in advance. News breaks because it is unknown and of interest. When we respond to journalists with background, send visuals, discuss story angle etc. we don't talk about it on the marketing list right after, because that pulls the rug out from under the story. We wait until the story breaks (crossing our fingers for a fair and accurate report) then monitor its impact. But this is not just passive: we make news, and to make newsworthy news, we develop a campaign which also reinforces bigger ideas such as Sugar Labs is alive kicking growing, Sugar is international, Sugar is free software developed by volunteers, Sugar needs talented FOSS developers. Part of making news is developing relationships with good journalists, briefing them before the launch under embargo; they appreciate having a scoop and can even comment more intelligently on the story misreported by others. Of course, anyone with the time could read through all our list postings, attend all our IRC meetings, come to SugarCamps, and mail us with questions in order to be perfectly up to date about the project. But at that point, they are on the cusp of being a contributor ;-) Is this clear I hope? thanks Sean On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 11:56:25PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:32, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is really what moodle was created for. Especially considering its the main tool used in all XS server implmentations and is in use in at least 40% of British schools. I'm not sure about the American numbers, but pretty sure it must be highly used there too. Creating courses in moodle is not only easy, but extremely powerful, and can be easily shared with other teachers. There are existing general moodle implementations, though none have enough content, including the sugarlabs one (schools.sugarlabs.org) I'm focusing my own efforts on linux-for-education.org, where little by little we're growing the site. The latter has 5 sugar based courses I created and several ubuntu and opensuse courses. Apart from the courses, the glossaries and database modules link straight into the course content, allowing students to easily look up terms used in courses that might be confusing. But I guess you can deploy Curriki content in Moodle instances? I think the main point of Curriki is working together with an existing community, not so much about what is used to deploy the content. Regards, Tomeu kind regards, David Van Assche On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki? To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Kellie Doty kmd...@mail.harvard.edu Message-ID: b74fba2b0909091618s103ddaa0oe4e2767f2aa02...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'd like to introduce Kellie Doty, she is a fellow student in the Technology, Education and Innovation program at Harvard Grad School for Education and she is in Intern at Sugar Labs this fall working on the GPA project. Kellyie's role will be to help us develop curriculum, test it at GPA and publish it in a format that will be easy to adopt by other teachers. One of her first tasks will be to take the lessons we did over the summer and try to write them up. One question is where should we put lesson plans? My first thought was wiki.sugarlabs.org our wonderful maze of twisty pages all different. But Kellie pointed out that teachers need to be able to find things through various paths such as subject, grade level and activities used. My second thought was Moodle as it probably has a module for that. +1 for curriki. It has an existing community of teachers to work w/ and it is a good tool, geared to their needs -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Ted Turner - Sports is like a war without the killing. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Project Guidelines posted
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 03:51:55PM -0500, David Farning wrote: The project guidelines are now on the wiki at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Project_Guidelines . Please edit as necessary. When it looks like the editing has stopped, I ask the board the ratify the guidelines. Sorry for being late(maybe), but I have one idea in my mind - adding(as option) vote system to Project_Guidelines. The core idea is simple(but powerful) way for getting feedback and getting this feedback keep project ideas in consensus. In some cases poll could be multileveled i.e. not voting for entirely project but step by step elaboration from abstract statements to details of implementations(not unnecessary implementation, it could stop on statement level). So, idea is some kind of community driven process of project evolution. If we have agreement on more abstract level we can step dipper and can avoid situations when someone are disagree because of some points in the middle of entirely idea. Don't know how it could look in implementation details.. maybe wiki plugin, separate activity, utilizing mls and irc. -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
curriki != moodle courses, format is quite different. So unless you create seperate instances of the courses one will have to choose either curriki format or moodle format. kind regards, David Van Assche On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:32, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is really what moodle was created for. Especially considering its the main tool used in all XS server implmentations and is in use in at least 40% of British schools. I'm not sure about the American numbers, but pretty sure it must be highly used there too. Creating courses in moodle is not only easy, but extremely powerful, and can be easily shared with other teachers. There are existing general moodle implementations, though none have enough content, including the sugarlabs one (schools.sugarlabs.org) I'm focusing my own efforts on linux-for-education.org, where little by little we're growing the site. The latter has 5 sugar based courses I created and several ubuntu and opensuse courses. Apart from the courses, the glossaries and database modules link straight into the course content, allowing students to easily look up terms used in courses that might be confusing. But I guess you can deploy Curriki content in Moodle instances? I think the main point of Curriki is working together with an existing community, not so much about what is used to deploy the content. Regards, Tomeu kind regards, David Van Assche On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki? To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Kellie Doty kmd...@mail.harvard.edu Message-ID: b74fba2b0909091618s103ddaa0oe4e2767f2aa02...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'd like to introduce Kellie Doty, she is a fellow student in the Technology, Education and Innovation program at Harvard Grad School for Education and she is in Intern at Sugar Labs this fall working on the GPA project. Kellyie's role will be to help us develop curriculum, test it at GPA and publish it in a format that will be easy to adopt by other teachers. One of her first tasks will be to take the lessons we did over the summer and try to write them up. One question is where should we put lesson plans? My first thought was wiki.sugarlabs.org our wonderful maze of twisty pages all different. But Kellie pointed out that teachers need to be able to find things through various paths such as subject, grade level and activities used. My second thought was Moodle as it probably has a module for that. +1 for curriki. It has an existing community of teachers to work w/ and it is a good tool, geared to their needs -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Ted Turner - Sports is like a war without the killing. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning -- Marie von Ebner-Eschenbachhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/marie_von_ebnereschenbac.html - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a directory...so I was hoping that you would just say yes or no - use [this one] when I asked you: Ah - so perhaps this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png [Hoped for:] YES - use #5 [or] NO - use #4 But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: About the logo, it's the blueberriest one we will want, variant 4 Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry launch, variant 6: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners ...so it's...6?! So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? No, there wasn't marketing decided, it was Tomeu who thought of flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit since natural wholesome sugars, a fun treat for kids), and sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT flavours: Cherry-Oak is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: [SeanDaly] [Eben] [Tomeu] Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask what color is the Sugar logo? and match that to the version number. I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty awesome idea. So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc When I say marketing decided ice cream, I mean: 1) marketing came up with the idea: [11:16:41] SeanDaly So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based on the boot logo color? [...] [11:18:38] SeanDaly caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can really serve us 2) marketing championed it [12:30:02] SeanDaly sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? [...] [12:30:44] SeanDaly I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i don't think we have a logo that color 3) marketing called the vote: [12:34:07] SeanDaly Can we go with logo 06 Strawberry for this release? [12:34:26] SeanDaly we can disagree all summer over the next one (joke) [...] [12:35:54] mtd strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:24] caroline strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:49] sdziallas strawberry +1 from me, too ;) 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the development process. Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest and most fun one. Ok, I'm convinced. [marketing tips] Is this clear I hope? That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should teach a course! thanks Sean Martin pgpP1Jfe7eu9W.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:27, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.comwrote: curriki != moodle courses, format is quite different. So unless you create seperate instances of the courses one will have to choose either curriki format or moodle format. Hm, that doesn't sound right: wouldn't Curriki benefit by making their content easily convertible to a variety of formats? CC'ing an acquaintance of mine at Curriki to get the full story. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:32, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is really what moodle was created for. Especially considering its the main tool used in all XS server implmentations and is in use in at least 40% of British schools. I'm not sure about the American numbers, but pretty sure it must be highly used there too. Creating courses in moodle is not only easy, but extremely powerful, and can be easily shared with other teachers. There are existing general moodle implementations, though none have enough content, including the sugarlabs one (schools.sugarlabs.org) I'm focusing my own efforts on linux-for-education.org, where little by little we're growing the site. The latter has 5 sugar based courses I created and several ubuntu and opensuse courses. Apart from the courses, the glossaries and database modules link straight into the course content, allowing students to easily look up terms used in courses that might be confusing. But I guess you can deploy Curriki content in Moodle instances? I think the main point of Curriki is working together with an existing community, not so much about what is used to deploy the content. Regards, Tomeu kind regards, David Van Assche On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki? To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Kellie Doty kmd...@mail.harvard.edu Message-ID: b74fba2b0909091618s103ddaa0oe4e2767f2aa02...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'd like to introduce Kellie Doty, she is a fellow student in the Technology, Education and Innovation program at Harvard Grad School for Education and she is in Intern at Sugar Labs this fall working on the GPA project. Kellyie's role will be to help us develop curriculum, test it at GPA and publish it in a format that will be easy to adopt by other teachers. One of her first tasks will be to take the lessons we did over the summer and try to write them up. One question is where should we put lesson plans? My first thought was wiki.sugarlabs.org our wonderful maze of twisty pages all different. But Kellie pointed out that teachers need to be able to find things through various paths such as subject, grade level and activities used. My second thought was Moodle as it probably has a module for that. +1 for curriki. It has an existing community of teachers to work w/ and it is a good tool, geared to their needs -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Ted Turner - Sports is like a war without the killing. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning -- Marie von Ebner-Eschenbachhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/marie_von_ebnereschenbac.html - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a directory...so I was hoping that you would just say yes or no - use [this one] when I asked you: Ah - so perhaps this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png [Hoped for:] YES - use #5 [or] NO - use #4 But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: About the logo, it's the blueberriest one we will want, variant 4 Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry launch, variant 6: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners ...so it's...6?! So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? No, there wasn't marketing decided, it was Tomeu who thought of flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit since natural wholesome sugars, a fun treat for kids), and sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT flavours: Cherry-Oak is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: I think it's most appropriate to say that this idea was developed collectively. I don't remember what I said nor why, but I think I was expressing support for someone else's earlier idea. I think most or all specific suggestions in this thread will work well and I don't think it's much worth discussing which one will be best. If someone really cares, we could define a process to decide names such as Fedora's, though I really hope we find better names than them, which I personally dislike even more than Ubuntu's. Regards, Tomeu [SeanDaly] [Eben] [Tomeu] Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask what color is the Sugar logo? and match that to the version number. I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty awesome idea. So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc When I say marketing decided ice cream, I mean: 1) marketing came up with the idea: [11:16:41] SeanDaly So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based on the boot logo color? [...] [11:18:38] SeanDaly caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can really serve us 2) marketing championed it [12:30:02] SeanDaly sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? [...] [12:30:44] SeanDaly I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i don't think we have a logo that color 3) marketing called the vote: [12:34:07] SeanDaly Can we go with logo 06 Strawberry for this release? [12:34:26] SeanDaly we can disagree all summer over the next one (joke) [...] [12:35:54] mtd strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:24] caroline strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:49] sdziallas strawberry +1 from me, too ;) 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the development process. Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest and most fun one. Ok, I'm convinced. [marketing tips] Is this clear I hope? That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should teach a course! thanks Sean Martin ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
it might be worth forgetting about where and how to best publish the curriculum for this term. Creating curriculum for a new class seems like enough of a challenge for one intern for one semester. Next term as you are figuring out how to scale out the curriculum to the rest of the school, you can figure out how to make it widely available. david On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:27, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote: curriki != moodle courses, format is quite different. So unless you create seperate instances of the courses one will have to choose either curriki format or moodle format. Hm, that doesn't sound right: wouldn't Curriki benefit by making their content easily convertible to a variety of formats? CC'ing an acquaintance of mine at Curriki to get the full story. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:32, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is really what moodle was created for. Especially considering its the main tool used in all XS server implmentations and is in use in at least 40% of British schools. I'm not sure about the American numbers, but pretty sure it must be highly used there too. Creating courses in moodle is not only easy, but extremely powerful, and can be easily shared with other teachers. There are existing general moodle implementations, though none have enough content, including the sugarlabs one (schools.sugarlabs.org) I'm focusing my own efforts on linux-for-education.org, where little by little we're growing the site. The latter has 5 sugar based courses I created and several ubuntu and opensuse courses. Apart from the courses, the glossaries and database modules link straight into the course content, allowing students to easily look up terms used in courses that might be confusing. But I guess you can deploy Curriki content in Moodle instances? I think the main point of Curriki is working together with an existing community, not so much about what is used to deploy the content. Regards, Tomeu kind regards, David Van Assche On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki? To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Kellie Doty kmd...@mail.harvard.edu Message-ID: b74fba2b0909091618s103ddaa0oe4e2767f2aa02...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'd like to introduce Kellie Doty, she is a fellow student in the Technology, Education and Innovation program at Harvard Grad School for Education and she is in Intern at Sugar Labs this fall working on the GPA project. Kellyie's role will be to help us develop curriculum, test it at GPA and publish it in a format that will be easy to adopt by other teachers. One of her first tasks will be to take the lessons we did over the summer and try to write them up. One question is where should we put lesson plans? My first thought was wiki.sugarlabs.org our wonderful maze of twisty pages all different. But Kellie pointed out that teachers need to be able to find things through various paths such as subject, grade level and activities used. My second thought was Moodle as it probably has a module for that. +1 for curriki. It has an existing community of teachers to work w/ and it is a good tool, geared to their needs -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Ted Turner - Sports is like a war without the killing. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning -- Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming
Great discussion. I'd love to be able to have a name for the next release because I need to talk about it a great deal these days. I say Should we base our spin on Strawberry or the next release. I talk about: Should we try to combine Strawberry codebase and the new tool bar design?. Can I start calling it Blueberry? Is the new toolbar design the Blueberry style toolbar? Thanks, Caroline On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a directory...so I was hoping that you would just say yes or no - use [this one] when I asked you: Ah - so perhaps this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png [Hoped for:] YES - use #5 [or] NO - use #4 But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: About the logo, it's the blueberriest one we will want, variant 4 Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry launch, variant 6: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners ...so it's...6?! So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? No, there wasn't marketing decided, it was Tomeu who thought of flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit since natural wholesome sugars, a fun treat for kids), and sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT flavours: Cherry-Oak is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: I think it's most appropriate to say that this idea was developed collectively. I don't remember what I said nor why, but I think I was expressing support for someone else's earlier idea. I think most or all specific suggestions in this thread will work well and I don't think it's much worth discussing which one will be best. If someone really cares, we could define a process to decide names such as Fedora's, though I really hope we find better names than them, which I personally dislike even more than Ubuntu's. Regards, Tomeu [SeanDaly] [Eben] [Tomeu] Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask what color is the Sugar logo? and match that to the version number. I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty awesome idea. So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc When I say marketing decided ice cream, I mean: 1) marketing came up with the idea: [11:16:41] SeanDaly So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based on the boot logo color? [...] [11:18:38] SeanDaly caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can really serve us 2) marketing championed it [12:30:02] SeanDaly sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? [...] [12:30:44] SeanDaly I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i don't think we have a logo that color 3) marketing called the vote: [12:34:07] SeanDaly Can we go with logo 06 Strawberry for this release? [12:34:26] SeanDaly we can disagree all summer over the next one (joke) [...] [12:35:54] mtd strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:24] caroline strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:49] sdziallas strawberry +1 from me, too ;) 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the development process. Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest and most fun one. Ok, I'm convinced. [marketing tips] Is this clear I hope? That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should teach a course! thanks Sean Martin ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a
Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
What David is saying is true. Current situation - For ease of integration - use Moodle itself, and linux-for-education.org is a good place to do it. There is no other curriki-like moodle instance that I know of. Moodle.org is building an index of such resources though. - IME Curriki is mainly an index of resources -- only some of its content uses curriki's wiki AFAICS. And is focused on content that is online. There is no packaging of content for offline use -- in Moodle or in Sugar. Probably because the content is not hosted at curriki itself. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: Hm, that doesn't sound right: wouldn't Curriki benefit by making their content easily convertible to a variety of formats? We'd all win, but that is a ton of hard work. And you actually have to host the content. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
Wikis, by their nature, don't lend well to formal organization. In order to get content into Moodle there are conventions and forms. I for one agree with David that Moodle makes a lot more sense than a wiki. Dennis ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] share videos from XO?
OK, how do you or anybody do it? an XO-recorded video How to share it? Can it be seen on any other (non XO) platform? thanks Walter: Dailymotion gives error at every sort of attempt, whether from the XO or uploading the file that I emailed from the XO to a Ubuntu box SJ already explained to me yesterday how the cow video is mostly vaporware (he didn't call it that, of course, but explained how it required completely out of the ordinary hacking skills). Yama Walter Bender wrote: daliymotion.com is Sugar/OLPC friendly in that it accepts OGG. -walter On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: I've wasted too much time today already in trying to share XO-originated videos. This is a major issue for deaf people, and as you know we're at Gallaudet (Washington DC university for the deaf) trying to do Good Things http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/edit/ClassActs Anyway, it id work in November 2008 to upload to youtube directly from the XO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgy1GQDjbL8 but that didn't work now, and neither did it work to email to another XO through Google mail an attachment with the video, that I attached here. I later added the .ogv hoping that would help to open under ubuntu on a desktop, no success. I was able to open it again in the originating XO, but that was it. At no time did the sound work, either. Yama ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] share videos from XO?
I've uploaded .ogv to Dailymotion. I'll test it on an XO and report back. -walter On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: OK, how do you or anybody do it? an XO-recorded video How to share it? Can it be seen on any other (non XO) platform? thanks Walter: Dailymotion gives error at every sort of attempt, whether from the XO or uploading the file that I emailed from the XO to a Ubuntu box SJ already explained to me yesterday how the cow video is mostly vaporware (he didn't call it that, of course, but explained how it required completely out of the ordinary hacking skills). Yama Walter Bender wrote: daliymotion.com is Sugar/OLPC friendly in that it accepts OGG. -walter On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: I've wasted too much time today already in trying to share XO-originated videos. This is a major issue for deaf people, and as you know we're at Gallaudet (Washington DC university for the deaf) trying to do Good Things http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/edit/ClassActs Anyway, it id work in November 2008 to upload to youtube directly from the XO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgy1GQDjbL8 but that didn't work now, and neither did it work to email to another XO through Google mail an attachment with the video, that I attached here. I later added the .ogv hoping that would help to open under ubuntu on a desktop, no success. I was able to open it again in the originating XO, but that was it. At no time did the sound work, either. Yama ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] share videos from XO?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 16:57, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: OK, how do you or anybody do it? an XO-recorded video How to share it? Can it be seen on any other (non XO) platform? thanks Walter: Dailymotion gives error at every sort of attempt, whether from the XO or uploading the file that I emailed from the XO to a Ubuntu box SJ already explained to me yesterday how the cow video is mostly vaporware (he didn't call it that, of course, but explained how it required completely out of the ordinary hacking skills). I tested back then that uploading videos worked from an XO, though don't remember when nor to where I tried. As with so many things in Sugar, we need people testing, reporting and helping with fixing bugs. Regards, Tomeu Yama Walter Bender wrote: daliymotion.com is Sugar/OLPC friendly in that it accepts OGG. -walter On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: I've wasted too much time today already in trying to share XO-originated videos. This is a major issue for deaf people, and as you know we're at Gallaudet (Washington DC university for the deaf) trying to do Good Things http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/edit/ClassActs Anyway, it id work in November 2008 to upload to youtube directly from the XO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgy1GQDjbL8 but that didn't work now, and neither did it work to email to another XO through Google mail an attachment with the video, that I attached here. I later added the .ogv hoping that would help to open under ubuntu on a desktop, no success. I was able to open it again in the originating XO, but that was it. At no time did the sound work, either. Yama ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] share videos from XO?
OK, the problem is not uploading .ogv per se, but specifically uploading an XO video, hopefully from the XO direct. That is a major issue for the deaf population, or so we have been told... Walter Bender wrote: I've uploaded .ogv to Dailymotion. I'll test it on an XO and report back. -walter On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: OK, how do you or anybody do it? an XO-recorded video How to share it? Can it be seen on any other (non XO) platform? thanks Walter: Dailymotion gives error at every sort of attempt, whether from the XO or uploading the file that I emailed from the XO to a Ubuntu box SJ already explained to me yesterday how the cow video is mostly vaporware (he didn't call it that, of course, but explained how it required completely out of the ordinary hacking skills). Yama Walter Bender wrote: daliymotion.com is Sugar/OLPC friendly in that it accepts OGG. -walter On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: I've wasted too much time today already in trying to share XO-originated videos. This is a major issue for deaf people, and as you know we're at Gallaudet (Washington DC university for the deaf) trying to do Good Things http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/edit/ClassActs Anyway, it id work in November 2008 to upload to youtube directly from the XO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgy1GQDjbL8 but that didn't work now, and neither did it work to email to another XO through Google mail an attachment with the video, that I attached here. I later added the .ogv hoping that would help to open under ubuntu on a desktop, no success. I was able to open it again in the originating XO, but that was it. At no time did the sound work, either. Yama ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
Seeing as there is a screencast on how to move curriki objects into Moodle, its clear the content is not the same, and there is no simple way to export a course from one to the other. Well, its gonna be easier from Moodle to curriki than the other way round, seeing as curriki is a collection of elements in multiple formats. I see it more as a place to collect your ideas which you can later implement in a real Course management/lesson plan builder like Moodle. That said, you are doubling the workload if you decide to use curriki too. In order to export items, the screencast says u need to hit the print button in curriki (hmm, not export, but print) and then take the url and use that as an object in a Moodle course. I'm sure you can see the limitations, as that makes it non portable (you have to be connected to the internet), and url based only (objects in moodle are generally of many kinds, including, audio, video, web page, texts, spreadsheets and flash elements.) Though I'm sure there are other ways to get the data out of curriki, its another step between getting the course material from one's head to a usable format that teachers everywhere can get at. That said, if I were building a Moodle course, and wanted to put in materials of my own, I might use curriki to search for that content. kind regards, David Van Assche On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Dennis Daniels dennisgdani...@gmail.comwrote: Wikis, by their nature, don't lend well to formal organization. In order to get content into Moodle there are conventions and forms. I for one agree with David that Moodle makes a lot more sense than a wiki. Dennis ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Jonathan Swifthttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/jonathan_swift.html - May you live every day of your life. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming
Hi all. I like blueberry, in spanish we can call it 'mora'. i like mora's juice ;). Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Martin in fact I often worry about talking too much during the marketing meetings, others not getting a word in. I'd be delighted if nonmarketing Sugar Labs team members lurked or participated, although I have clear ideas about how to work on marketing puzzles I'll never claim to have all the answers. re marketing course: in fact I have accepted Mel's invitation to do a classroom for Fedora. re logos: Strawberry=6, Blueberry=4, and 5 we'll use some other time Blueberry has been our working name for the next SoaS release since before the Strawberry release (we chose to have banners done in both red and blue logos so they would stay current longer) so I think we're all set with Blueberry? thanks Sean On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a directory...so I was hoping that you would just say yes or no - use [this one] when I asked you: Ah - so perhaps this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png [Hoped for:] YES - use #5 [or] NO - use #4 But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: About the logo, it's the blueberriest one we will want, variant 4 Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry launch, variant 6: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners ...so it's...6?! So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? No, there wasn't marketing decided, it was Tomeu who thought of flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit since natural wholesome sugars, a fun treat for kids), and sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT flavours: Cherry-Oak is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: [SeanDaly] [Eben] [Tomeu] Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask what color is the Sugar logo? and match that to the version number. I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty awesome idea. So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc When I say marketing decided ice cream, I mean: 1) marketing came up with the idea: [11:16:41] SeanDaly So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based on the boot logo color? [...] [11:18:38] SeanDaly caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can really serve us 2) marketing championed it [12:30:02] SeanDaly sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? [...] [12:30:44] SeanDaly I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i don't think we have a logo that color 3) marketing called the vote: [12:34:07] SeanDaly Can we go with logo 06 Strawberry for this release? [12:34:26] SeanDaly we can disagree all summer over the next one (joke) [...] [12:35:54] mtd strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:24] caroline strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:49] sdziallas strawberry +1 from me, too ;) 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the development process. Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest and most fun one. Ok, I'm convinced. [marketing tips] Is this clear I hope? That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should teach a course! thanks Sean Martin ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?
Caroline, We at Open Learning Exchange (OLE) have been working towards a solution for this over the past 2 years and have a working prototype with the most basic functionality we think is needed. You are welcome to try it out at library.ole.org There are several sites on the web that are trying to create a place for curriculum to be shared but none of them that I know of are addressing the needs of developing countries. We have done a lot of work to address the diverse needs of countries with limited internet access and feel we have a solution that will be very powerful in the near future. We are working with our centers around the world to identify the key success factors in making a Global Learning Library as well as several partners like the Siyavula project in South Africa and Connexions at Rice University to leverage existing work done in this area. In addition, we have begun talks with Sugarlabs to use our library as a repository of educational materials that incorporate sugar activities. It would be very helpful for us to get your feedback on what we have and to work with you on integrating it with your work and the work of the Sugarlabs community. Some of my thoughts on other solutions. Sugarlabs wiki: There is too much other content on the sugarlabs wiki that is not relevant to teachers. Just like activities.sugarlabs.org is a place to find and download activities I think we need a place designed specifically for curriculum materials. Moodle: Moodle is a great tool for creating structured, interactive lesson plans and for deploying them in classrooms but it is not designed as a library or repository of materials. Our plan is to start by allowing people to create Moodle courses and share them on our library for others to download and use on their own Moodle servers. We are also working with a developer to integrate work he has done on Moodle import/export into our library in the future. Curriki: Curriki is the closest thing to what we think is needed but it lacks the ability to be deployed on a country by country basis. We feel strongly that a learning library needs to be customizable for each country, each school and even each student. Curriculum alignment: There are many features that we we feel are an integral part of making a library of curriculum materials successful that we have not implemented in our library yet. Curriculum alignment is at the top of that list. Because of the complexity of many of the worlds curriculum standards we want to make sure we do not overload teachers with too much information. Chris Chris Rowe, CTO Open Learning Exchange +1 (512) 553-0852 | skype: eworsirhc http://ole.org Sent from Austin, TX, United States ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming
:-) while waiting we can make jokes, la mora demora :-) Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Hi all. I like blueberry, in spanish we can call it 'mora'. i like mora's juice ;). Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Martin in fact I often worry about talking too much during the marketing meetings, others not getting a word in. I'd be delighted if nonmarketing Sugar Labs team members lurked or participated, although I have clear ideas about how to work on marketing puzzles I'll never claim to have all the answers. re marketing course: in fact I have accepted Mel's invitation to do a classroom for Fedora. re logos: Strawberry=6, Blueberry=4, and 5 we'll use some other time Blueberry has been our working name for the next SoaS release since before the Strawberry release (we chose to have banners done in both red and blue logos so they would stay current longer) so I think we're all set with Blueberry? thanks Sean On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a directory...so I was hoping that you would just say yes or no - use [this one] when I asked you: Ah - so perhaps this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png [Hoped for:] YES - use #5 [or] NO - use #4 But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: About the logo, it's the blueberriest one we will want, variant 4 Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry launch, variant 6: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners ...so it's...6?! So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? No, there wasn't marketing decided, it was Tomeu who thought of flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit since natural wholesome sugars, a fun treat for kids), and sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT flavours: Cherry-Oak is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: [SeanDaly] [Eben] [Tomeu] Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask what color is the Sugar logo? and match that to the version number. I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty awesome idea. So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc When I say marketing decided ice cream, I mean: 1) marketing came up with the idea: [11:16:41] SeanDaly So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based on the boot logo color? [...] [11:18:38] SeanDaly caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can really serve us 2) marketing championed it [12:30:02] SeanDaly sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? [...] [12:30:44] SeanDaly I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i don't think we have a logo that color 3) marketing called the vote: [12:34:07] SeanDaly Can we go with logo 06 Strawberry for this release? [12:34:26] SeanDaly we can disagree all summer over the next one (joke) [...] [12:35:54] mtd strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:24] caroline strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:49] sdziallas strawberry +1 from me, too ;) 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the development process. Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest and most fun one. Ok, I'm convinced. [marketing tips] Is this clear I hope? That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should teach a
[IAEP] Presentation to local LUG
Greetings, I'm doing a presentation at a local Linux Users Group about Sugar on the 16th. I checked the Wiki and found this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/How_to_present_Sugar#Hints Any other suggestions? Any updates aside from the recent build? Of course, getting new devs on board is a message as well... with regards, Dennis ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Road to Sucrose 0.86
Hi, in today's developers meeting we made a plan on how to make Sucrose 0.86 a good and solid release. And of course we need YOU to make it a success. Here are the items with their champions and where we need help: a) Get the tarballs of the 0.85.6 release out tonight [erikos, tomeu] b) Make good release notes [erikos with community help] c) Make rpms [tomeu for Fedora, Aleksey for jhconvert, YOU for your distribution of choice] d) New Soas release [Sebastian] e) Announce widely as soon as possible [YOU can help here to announce for your distribution where the release is packaged, i.e. distribution's planets, mailing lists] f) Get the triagers ready [To be determined] We are looking for a champion of this item. Duties: Organize daily, or every second day meetings for triaging bugs with your squad. Mainly being responsive to incoming bugs. You can read more about how cool the BugSquad is at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad page and erikos himself is happy to answer any questions to how we did rock back in the days ;p g) Testing plans [To be determined] Each feature that landed in 0.86 contains a test plan http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Feature_List. Some of the tickets that got fixed do contain test cases as well. Basically we are looking for someone or a group of people that arrange those items on a wiki page so that testers can test them. h) Testing teams Once we have the packages in the distributions, we will announce it on the mailing list. You are welcome to report bugs you find into our bug tracker. Of course we would welcome any efforts to form testing teams or arrange for testing days! Best to use the mailing list to coordinate those efforts - so as many people as possible can join. i) Bug-fix team Work closely together with the triaging and testing team to get all the bugs out. You don't have to be as quick as Aleksey to contribute, just pick one of the bugs intended for 0.86 and submit the patch following the guidelines at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_Review j) Plan the bug fix releases We will announce a plan for the time after the 0.86 release http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Roadmap#Schedule We will definitely have 1 or two bug fix releases. So stay tuned. Happy bug-fixing, testing, triaging, packaging and releasing to everyone, Your release team ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Inter American Bank Education event
I beleieve someone from Sugar should go by, if at all possible SEMINAR Reinventing the Classroom: Social and Educational Impact of Information and Communication Technologies in Education Inter-American Development Bank 1330 New York Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20577 Enrique V. Iglesias Conference Center September 15th, 2009 Dear friends: We are sending you an updated schedule and a list of confirmed participants for the Technical Seminar. If you are still planning to join us please do not forget to confirm your participation by Thursday September 10th COB by sending a message to car...@iadb.org You can also access videos, presentations and read more information at: http://www.iadb.org/edu - SEMINARIO Reinventar el Aula: Impacto Social y Educativo de la Incorporacin de Tecnologas de la Informacin y la Comunicacin en la Educacin Banco Interamericano de Desarrollo 1330 New York Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20577 Centro de Conferencias Enrique V. Iglesias 15 de setiembre de 2009 Estimados amigos: Les enviamos una agenda actualizada del Seminario Tcnico y una lista de participantes confirmados al da de hoy Si an planean acompaarnos les pedimos confirmar su asistencia enviando un correo electrnico a car...@iadb.org a ms tardar al final de la tarde del da jueves 10 de Setiembre, 2009. Para ms informacin, presentaciones y acceso a videos del Seminario Tcnico por favor visite: http://www.iadb.org/edu Carla Jimenez Research Fellow I Education Division I Social Sector Inter-American Development Bank 1300 New York Avenue, NW I Washington, DC 20577 I Office: NW 631 E-mail: car...@iadb.org I Phone: (202) 623-2882 P Please do not print this e-mail unless you absolutely need to. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Powerful Ideas page and discussion
I have started the Wiki page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Powerful_Ideas, including a list of Feeble Ideas, and I would like to start a discussion about them. Please let us know what the powerful ideas in your education were, and why. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] share videos from XO?
Curious. I just created a video on my XO and tried to upload it to dailymotion.com. Dailymotion complained that the file type was not supported. I copied the file onto a USB key and then uploaded it from a firefox browser on Ubuntu. It load without any complaints. I'll dig a bit deeper. But meanwhile, we know that the problem is not .ogv. -walter On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: OK, how do you or anybody do it? an XO-recorded video How to share it? Can it be seen on any other (non XO) platform? thanks Walter: Dailymotion gives error at every sort of attempt, whether from the XO or uploading the file that I emailed from the XO to a Ubuntu box SJ already explained to me yesterday how the cow video is mostly vaporware (he didn't call it that, of course, but explained how it required completely out of the ordinary hacking skills). Yama Walter Bender wrote: daliymotion.com is Sugar/OLPC friendly in that it accepts OGG. -walter On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: I've wasted too much time today already in trying to share XO-originated videos. This is a major issue for deaf people, and as you know we're at Gallaudet (Washington DC university for the deaf) trying to do Good Things http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/edit/ClassActs Anyway, it id work in November 2008 to upload to youtube directly from the XO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgy1GQDjbL8 but that didn't work now, and neither did it work to email to another XO through Google mail an attachment with the video, that I attached here. I later added the .ogv hoping that would help to open under ubuntu on a desktop, no success. I was able to open it again in the originating XO, but that was it. At no time did the sound work, either. Yama ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Presentation to local LUG
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Dennis Daniels dennisgdani...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm doing a presentation at a local Linux Users Group about Sugar on the 16th. I checked the Wiki and found this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/How_to_present_Sugar#Hints I hadn't seen that page in the wiki. I just added a couple of new hints: * I often demo Memorize as a quick way of showing the balance struck between consuming and creating. * I give my talks using the presentation features in Turtle Art... nothing like eating your own dogfood. -walter Any other suggestions? Any updates aside from the recent build? Of course, getting new devs on board is a message as well... with regards, Dennis ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] zeitgeist and sugar
Hi all, as you may know, TIS innovation park is hosting in November the FreeSoftwareWeek which will include Zeitgeist and Sugar hackfests. Users of Sugar have been using something not too different from Zeitgeist for some years now and some people think that Zeitgeist could benefit from our experience, and Sugar could benefit from using parts of Zeitgeist at some point in the future. Thus I'm proposing that we reserve some hours near the start of the event to exchange ideas and perhaps find ways to work together. How does it sound? Regards, Tomeu http://www.freesoftwareweek.org/ http://www.tis.bz.it/ http://live.gnome.org/ZeitgeistHackFest2009 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/Sugarcamp_Bolzano_2009 -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Presentation to local LUG
hear, hear. The medium is the message, if this thing doesn't work, then it doesn't work! Nothing worse than the concientizacion meetings done in a theater with a talking head showing stuff running on Powerpoint. * I give my talks using the presentation features in Turtle Art... nothing like eating your own dogfood. -walter ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Answering teacher and other users questions on Launchpad
Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com writes: If you'd like to answer user questions please consider subscribing here. https://answers.launchpad.net/soas/+answer-contact Done. I also added french as my favorite language for questions, I will redirect french people with questions to launchpad. -- Bastien ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
