Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: New F11 XO-1build 115 Paraguay
Bernie Build 115 looks good thanks. I was able to run TurtleArt under both Sugar and Gnome. That was fun. Touchpad seems jumpier but that may just be coincidence. Only problem is that the XO will not boot unless a USB is plugged in with a devkey. This is probably why I was unable to use your previous build or Stephen Parrish's build. Build 767 works OK though. Build 115, sugar 0.84.14, firmware Q2E42d, wireless firmware 5.110.22.p23 Tony This is a custom XO-1 OS image released by the Paraguay Educa technology team for field testing in Caacupé: http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os115.img http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os115.crc http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os115.img.fs.zip The system is a derivative of Stephen Parrish's excellent F11-XO1 series, frozen a few weeks ago to concentrate on stability and field testing. Our short-term goal is to meet a release criteria of no regressions against build 801. Once this is done, we'll re-sync with the latest improvements from our upstreams, F11-XO1.5 and F11-XO1. == Changes relative to the previous release (OS65 Paraguay) == * Removed all translations except English and Spanish to save space * 3G broadband support (untested, probably buggy) * Pick up all fixes from fedora-updates * Add patent-encumbered multimedia codecs (gstreamer-plugins-bad) == Bugs fixed == * Write activity doesn't let you cut, paste or delete selection http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1817 * Robot function in Speak does not work http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10059 * Graphics artifacts with some GMail backgrounds http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10076 * Black GTK buttons in Gnome and elsewhere http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7830 * Keyboard misconfigured if A/C is unplugged on first boot after update * NetworkManager crashes on suspend/resume (we have only a temporary work-around, tch is working on a solution) * Disable automatic power management even on first boot (this is a temporary work-around for wi-fi and XVideo bugs) * Activities updates from ASLO should go through local mirror http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/ticket/553 == Known bugs == Remaining bugs are summarized here: http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org/index.php/Devel/Builds/Todo In particular, these are the remaining *known* regressions wrt the old stable build from OLPC (OS801 Paraguay): * Record does not record sound http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1244 * NetworkManager crashes on resume from suspend We have an temporary workaround. See thread with subject NetworkManager from fedora-updates-testing broken on F11-XO1 for full details. Many more bugs are likely to be filed over the next days, as our testing team works through their test plan. == How to help testing == Feedback from the entire community is of course welcome as well. Bugs belonging to upstream components should be filed in the usual trackers: * Sugar and activities: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ * Fedora 11: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/ * Drivers and OLPC customizations: http://dev.laptop.org/ * Paraguay-specific bugs: http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/ If you're unsure where a bug belongs to, use the Paragauy Educa bug tracker. Please, always cc me so I can keep the status summary updated. We're unlikely to dedicate much attention to bugs affecting Gnome and obscure activities with no active maintainer, but it's good to stay informed on what's broken anyway. For everything else, we'll do our best, with the help of OLPC, Fedora, and Sugar Labs. == How to join development == Build system source: http://git.paraguayeduca.org/gitweb/users/bernie/olpc-os-builder.git Yum Repository of our custom RPMs: http://repo.paraguayeduca.org/f11-xo1-py/i386/os/ -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] En el camino del Plan Ceibal
Hi, I would like to share following publication, carried out by our urugayan friends (aka ceibalistas) with the support of various uruguayan and international UNESCO agencies. The publication was announced on the portal Plan CEIBAL: http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/index.php?view=articlecatid=63:acercadeid=1287:qen-el-camino-del-plan-ceibalq En el camino del Plan CEIBAL. Referencias para padres y educadores (published in Dec. 2009, 322 p.) To download this document: http://www.unesco.org.uy/ci/publicaciones/Ceibal-2009-web.pdf Regards, Samy ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners...
And, as Edward knows, it is almost beyond belief that Newton did take into account all of these factors the very first time out of the chute in the Principia. Cheers, Alan From: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com To: Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com Cc: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 8:48:26 PM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners... On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 23:11, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: How much lighter is a person in La Paz, Bolivia, than at sea level? This actually was asked by a kid when I was there last time. For practical purposes let's assume La Paz is 3.800 m over sea level Fascinating question. The simplest answer is that weight is inversely proportional to distance from the center, which we can approximate as 40,000 km/pi, or 12,742 km on average. This would give us a difference of roughly one part in 5,000 in weight for a difference of 4 parts in 10,000 in height. However, the distance between surface and center is actually 43 km greater at the equator than at the pole, so we have to do some much finer calculations to locate sea level at he latitude of La Paz. Then we have to decide whether to ask what the weights would be on a stationary Earth, or whether we will take rotation into account, resulting in apparent decreases in centripetal forces. If we wanted to be really finicky, we could take relativity into account also. ^_^ On 03/27/2010 10:03 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: If the kids could really measure accurately, which can be done with a high quality pendulum, they would find that the acceleration is not actually constant, but differs by about one part in a million from 14 feet above the ground and at the ground level (due the more accurate inverse square Newton Law). And if they had access to atomic clocks, they could observe the difference in the rate of passage of time at higher and lower altitudes, which are of practical importance in the clocks on GPS satellites. Measuring the deviations from Newton's Law in a falling object near the surface of the Earth requires greater precision than is available. It is observable with great difficulty in the precession of the orbit of Mercury around the Sun, and more clearly in binary pulsar systems. Please don't hesitate to ask questions. Cheers, Alan From: Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com To: Jeff Elknerj...@elkner.net Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 12:41:01 PM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners... kino will let you export your movie as a series of stills... I am sure there are many Free multimedia programs with a similar capability. regards. -walter On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Jeff Elknerj...@elkner.net wrote: Hi All, I'm working on a derivative version of Gravity for 10 Year Olds to use with my high school age students, which I'm calling Gravity for Beginners: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARq50A7-FeDXZGd2MnN0ODJfMjAwNmc0NHF4ZHIhl=en Day 2 has the following: Show the students how to overlay frames from their videos to get this effect: Can anyone point me to easy instructions on how to do this? I can't really use the lesson without it. Thanks! jeff elkner ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Scheduling a trademark discussion call
[adding IAEP to CC because we agreed on using only SLOBs for matters that require confidentiality] On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 17:41, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote: On http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Log-2010-03-12 we agreed to schedule a conference call to see how far we could move the trademark discussion forward before our SLOBs get-together in April. (What are the plans for that, by the way?) I will be in Boston from 12th to 19th April, being a bit busy with GNOME stuff from 14th to 18th. Regards, Tomeu So! Enter your times here: http://whenisgood.net/wtcs5t Results: http://whenisgood.net/wtcs5t/results/h9s4i7 Ground rules: No decisions will be made during this call; it is not an official SLOBs meeting (those are still on IRC). Its purpose is to get ideas out and to help people understand the various perspectives surrounding this issue, so that we can have a good motion, discussion, and resolution at a subsequent IRC SLOBs meeting. People who need to be on the line: * Karen (because we need someone who understands trademark law - I'll send her scheduling options once the other must be there people have filled in their available times, and we may just ask her to be there for the first 10m of the call to set the scene for us, and give us an indication of what sort of policy in what format we need to give the SFC/SFLC. She doesn't necessarily have to be present for the subsequent discussion.) * Sean (because trademark and brand are deeply intertwined) * Walter (as the Executive Director) * Chris (from the perspective of a long-time FOSS developer who's seen multiple trademark policies from the open source community side) And then as many SLOBs as we can get. Questions: 1. Is this the right list of people that we need on the call? 2. Is it ok for community members to dial in and listen to the call? 3. What resources can we pull together/provide for those on the call in order to prepare the call itself to go as productively as possible? Thanks, --Mel ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Scheduling a trademark discussion call
Thanks, Tomeu - I forgot to add IAEP to the initial list. Transparency w00t! iaep: for context, we've been trying to figure out how to resolve the long-standing trademark issue, and we're going to be trying a call and then (next month) a (still hypothetical - not 100% planned) face-to-face meeting to try and reach an understanding more quickly via discussion. We'll try to scribe all this discussion as best we can, and the decision itself will still be made in public channels - suggesitons on anything we can do to be more radically transparent very welcome. --Mel On 03/28/2010 08:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [adding IAEP to CC because we agreed on using only SLOBs for matters that require confidentiality] On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 17:41, Mel Chuam...@melchua.com wrote: On http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Log-2010-03-12 we agreed to schedule a conference call to see how far we could move the trademark discussion forward before our SLOBs get-together in April. (What are the plans for that, by the way?) I will be in Boston from 12th to 19th April, being a bit busy with GNOME stuff from 14th to 18th. Regards, Tomeu So! Enter your times here: http://whenisgood.net/wtcs5t Results: http://whenisgood.net/wtcs5t/results/h9s4i7 Ground rules: No decisions will be made during this call; it is not an official SLOBs meeting (those are still on IRC). Its purpose is to get ideas out and to help people understand the various perspectives surrounding this issue, so that we can have a good motion, discussion, and resolution at a subsequent IRC SLOBs meeting. People who need to be on the line: * Karen (because we need someone who understands trademark law - I'll send her scheduling options once the other must be there people have filled in their available times, and we may just ask her to be there for the first 10m of the call to set the scene for us, and give us an indication of what sort of policy in what format we need to give the SFC/SFLC. She doesn't necessarily have to be present for the subsequent discussion.) * Sean (because trademark and brand are deeply intertwined) * Walter (as the Executive Director) * Chris (from the perspective of a long-time FOSS developer who's seen multiple trademark policies from the open source community side) And then as many SLOBs as we can get. Questions: 1. Is this the right list of people that we need on the call? 2. Is it ok for community members to dial in and listen to the call? 3. What resources can we pull together/provide for those on the call in order to prepare the call itself to go as productively as possible? Thanks, --Mel ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners...
On 28.03.2010, at 06:48, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 23:11, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: How much lighter is a person in La Paz, Bolivia, than at sea level? This actually was asked by a kid when I was there last time. For practical purposes let's assume La Paz is 3.800 m over sea level Fascinating question. The simplest answer is that weight is inversely proportional to distance from the center, which we can approximate as 40,000 km/pi, or 12,742 km on average. This would give us a difference of roughly one part in 5,000 in weight for a difference of 4 parts in 10,000 in height. However, the distance between surface and center is actually 43 km greater at the equator than at the pole, so we have to do some much finer calculations to locate sea level at he latitude of La Paz. Then we have to decide whether to ask what the weights would be on a stationary Earth, or whether we will take rotation into account, resulting in apparent decreases in centripetal forces. If we wanted to be really finicky, we could take relativity into account also. ^_^ Indeed. My 10 year old son came home recently with the claim that people on mountains live longer. We had some fun introducing relativity, but didn't actually bother to calculate what fraction of a second this would amount to over a lifetime ;) - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] about the convenience of planets
Hi, our planet ( http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ ) is lately full of great content, but it has been said that there are much better ways of aggregating blog posts. Some discussion about the generic problems of planets can be found here: http://shotofjaq.org/2010/03/planetary-madness/ Regards, Tomeu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Opportunity to educate / advocate
Thanks Chris for that Direct link is here: http://www.globalpulse2010.gov/index.html I have registered, although I didn't quit understand how that IBM platform works (guess I will find out!) Sean Sugar Labs Marketing Coordinator On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: All, I came across this blog posting on the Eldis Community pointing out an on-line conference: http://community.eldis.org/.59d3b775 USAID (notably one of the sponsors of the OLPC Afghanistan deployment) is hosting an online conference covering a range of potentially relevant topics. No travelling required :-) http://www.globalpulse2010.gov/ This seems like a reasonable opportunity to take the Sugar Labs / OLPC message to an important group and engage in a conversation with an audience that has a global outlook. Perhaps some folks from the Sugar Labs marketing group might be interested in using this as a messaging opportunity. cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] What's going on with Sugar on a Stick?
Yes Sebastian, by all means preparing for your exams and solving your school financing problem are higher priorities! Rooting for you. Sean. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Sebastian first of all thanks for all your hard work up until now. And more importantly all the best for your upcoming final exams. We look forward to seeing you on the flip side! as you may have noticed, there are a couple of changes coming to Sugar on a Stick to keep the whole project sustainable. In the upcoming month, from March 28 (I'll be off starting Sunday night) to May 7, my ability to devote time to the project will cease. I have to prepare for my major A-level exams; more importantly, I have to secure a significant amount of funding in order to be able to attend college later this fall. (If you're interested in helping, see http://sdziallas.com/blog/sebastian/2010/03/sebastian-needs-100k.html for more details - any advice would be appreciated.) This does not affect the release date. Sugar on a Stick will be released as a spin through Fedora's release engineering process on May 11. We are bound to this date and will have a working release in time. The general release schedule including all relevant policies is available here [1]. Nightly builds are also available [2] (and will contain a fixed IRC activity within a couple of days, as soon as [3] has been pushed to stable). Activity authors are also advised that the final freeze date for package updates is April 27, so make sure to get fixes pushed well in advance to give package maintainers and the update system time to process. Peter Robinson has kindly agreed to act in case something is needed. Please make sure to post to the appropriate lists, though, so that everybody is in the loop. Finally, please file bugs at bugs.sugarlabs.org as explained in [4] to save all of us time. Just as a couple of points here. Please keep as much of the discussion on the soas mailing list as possible so that everyone is aware of any issues in a lead up to the release in March. I will do my best to keep up with things as we work towards the release. Please also check the bug tracker [1] to see if any issues are already known about and if you don't see it there please file a bug against SoaS so it can be tracked. I will be reviewing and updating things over the next week as we head full forward into the Fedora 13 / SoaS 3 Beta. I look forward to your assistance in making this a great release. Peter http://bugs.sugarlabs.org ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SoaS Documentation Changes
Hi all, I'd like to announce some changes to our documentation strategy for the upcoming Sugar on a Stick release. In an attempt to enhance our documentation, I've been working on creating content using Publican [1], which is a Fedora tool relying on Docbook files. Here are some examples, namely the HTML output for two upcoming guides: http://people.sugarlabs.org/sdz/creation-kit/ http://people.sugarlabs.org/sdz/customization-guide/ We'll find a better place for these in time for the release. However, they are already a good representation of the recommended procedures. I went ahead and created a SOP for the process of getting changes into the documentation: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Documentation_SOP Mel has kindly agreed to take care of the queue on list, and it is our hope that we'll be able to add more committers over time, so if you're interested in helping to maintain this documentation, please speak up. --Sebastian [1] https://fedorahosted.org/publican/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Microwaved XO for sale on ebay!
Hi All... OK thought you had seen everything? Check this out... http://bit.ly/bMyGm7 Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners...
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 07:03, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: And, as Edward knows, it is almost beyond belief that Newton did take into account all of these factors the very first time out of the chute in the Principia. Yes, it's all in Book III of the Principia, under the title The System of the World. Orbits of planets, moons, and comets; water tides (but not rock tides); rotational bulges and the variation of gravity from equator to poles; precession of equinoxes; the effect of the Sun on the Moon's orbit; and so on, plus generally good philosophy and bad theology. There are a few other such minds known, able to create multiple branches of math or physics. Archimedes, Leonardo da Vinci (who couldn't publish), Euler, Gauss, Einstein...Those who can create even one are the great men and women of their fields. Coming up with even one significant new idea, and then working out its consequences for a lifetime, makes one a leader. The most amazing thing about the Principia to me is that Newton translated all of the calculus that he used to work out these discoveries into Euclidean geometry for publication, solely in order to avoid controversy over the foundations of the calculus. Since then, Abraham Robinson and John Horton Conway have demonstrated how actual infinitesimals can be incorporated into arithmetic and calculus. Cheers, Alan From: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com To: Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com Cc: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 8:48:26 PM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners... On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 23:11, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: How much lighter is a person in La Paz, Bolivia, than at sea level? This actually was asked by a kid when I was there last time. For practical purposes let's assume La Paz is 3.800 m over sea level Fascinating question. The simplest answer is that weight is inversely proportional to distance from the center, which we can approximate as 40,000 km/pi, or 12,742 km on average. This would give us a difference of roughly one part in 5,000 in weight for a difference of 4 parts in 10,000 in height. However, the distance between surface and center is actually 43 km greater at the equator than at the pole, so we have to do some much finer calculations to locate sea level at he latitude of La Paz. Then we have to decide whether to ask what the weights would be on a stationary Earth, or whether we will take rotation into account, resulting in apparent decreases in centripetal forces. If we wanted to be really finicky, we could take relativity into account also. ^_^ On 03/27/2010 10:03 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: If the kids could really measure accurately, which can be done with a high quality pendulum, they would find that the acceleration is not actually constant, but differs by about one part in a million from 14 feet above the ground and at the ground level (due the more accurate inverse square Newton Law). And if they had access to atomic clocks, they could observe the difference in the rate of passage of time at higher and lower altitudes, which are of practical importance in the clocks on GPS satellites. Measuring the deviations from Newton's Law in a falling object near the surface of the Earth requires greater precision than is available. It is observable with great difficulty in the precession of the orbit of Mercury around the Sun, and more clearly in binary pulsar systems. Please don't hesitate to ask questions. Cheers, Alan From: Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com To: Jeff Elknerj...@elkner.net Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 12:41:01 PM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Gravity for Beginners... kino will let you export your movie as a series of stills... I am sure there are many Free multimedia programs with a similar capability. regards. -walter On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Jeff Elknerj...@elkner.net wrote: Hi All, I'm working on a derivative version of Gravity for 10 Year Olds to use with my high school age students, which I'm calling Gravity for Beginners: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARq50A7-FeDXZGd2MnN0ODJfMjAwNmc0NHF4ZHIhl=en Day 2 has the following: Show the students how to overlay frames from their videos to get this effect: Can anyone point me to easy instructions on how to do this? I can't really use the lesson without it. Thanks! jeff elkner ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___
