[IAEP] Software Freedom Day 2010.09.18
Hi, For those of you looking for an excuse to promote Sugar and other FOSS projects, you may want to think about doing something for Software Freedom Day... Details at http://softwarefreedomday.org/ (In DC, we mung the date a bit, because there's a big folk festival six days prior to SFD. So we have our SFD event at the Takoma Park Folk Festival (http://tpff.org/) on September 12th instead.) -- Kevin Cole Sugar Labs DC Washington, DC ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu
It would be very nice to have this on Spanish!. Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 15:07, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu, In the FLOSS Manuals world anyone who wants to do a translation of any FM book may do so. I'm not capable of doing a translation myself, but if anyone was interested all he would have to do would be to request a Spanish version to be set up by asking for it on the FM mailing list, then start working on it. Anyone signed up with FM may edit any book, just like with a Wiki. Only setting up a new book requires admin help, and I think the new Booki software that FM will use soon will eliminate even that requirement. FM is set up to encourage this kind of thing, and believe me if anyone wanted to do a Spanish translation I'd be tickled to death. So no plans, but none are really needed in this case. Well, guess that somebody needs to announce this manual in the spanish-speaking lists and propose the translation effort? Maybe one of our fellow hackers from SA? Regards, Tomeu James Simmons On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: My FLOSS Manual Make Your Own Sugar Activities! made it to Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878 FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought you'd all like to know it's available. Any plans on translating it to Spanish? That's how I would expect it to reach much bigger impact. I think several people in the olpc-sur would be interested in helping out. Regards, Tomeu James Simmons ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu
Hi... If some one will take care of getting it set up, I will be happy to help with the translations and try to recruit some of my bilingual friends to help. It may all take a while, but let's get the ball rolling! Caryl (aka Carolina, aka SweetXOGrannie From: raf...@sugarlabs.org Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:35:11 -0500 To: to...@sugarlabs.org CC: webch...@invisible.net; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; scotty...@gmail.com; sarah.gladst...@walgreens.com; anshu.ga...@gmail.com; nices...@gmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu It would be very nice to have this on Spanish!. Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 15:07, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu, In the FLOSS Manuals world anyone who wants to do a translation of any FM book may do so. I'm not capable of doing a translation myself, but if anyone was interested all he would have to do would be to request a Spanish version to be set up by asking for it on the FM mailing list, then start working on it. Anyone signed up with FM may edit any book, just like with a Wiki. Only setting up a new book requires admin help, and I think the new Booki software that FM will use soon will eliminate even that requirement. FM is set up to encourage this kind of thing, and believe me if anyone wanted to do a Spanish translation I'd be tickled to death. So no plans, but none are really needed in this case. Well, guess that somebody needs to announce this manual in the spanish-speaking lists and propose the translation effort? Maybe one of our fellow hackers from SA? Regards, Tomeu James Simmons On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: My FLOSS Manual Make Your Own Sugar Activities! made it to Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878 FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought you'd all like to know it's available. Any plans on translating it to Spanish? That's how I would expect it to reach much bigger impact. I think several people in the olpc-sur would be interested in helping out. Regards, Tomeu James Simmons ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:19 PM, anshu.ga...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to consider using Google Translate as a starting point, and then cleaning up the translation. Anshu I've seen great progress on google translator, nonetheless i still recomend to do a fresh translation up from the start. it's still in my opinion not so time consuming. On Aug 2, 2010 2:37pm, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi... If some one will take care of getting it set up, I will be happy to help with the translations and try to recruit some of my bilingual friends to help. It may all take a while, but let's get the ball rolling! Caryl (aka Carolina, aka SweetXOGrannie From: raf...@sugarlabs.org Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:35:11 -0500 To: to...@sugarlabs.org CC: webch...@invisible.net; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; scotty...@gmail.com; sarah.gladst...@walgreens.com; anshu.ga...@gmail.com; nices...@gmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu It would be very nice to have this on Spanish!. Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 15:07, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu, In the FLOSS Manuals world anyone who wants to do a translation of any FM book may do so. I'm not capable of doing a translation myself, but if anyone was interested all he would have to do would be to request a Spanish version to be set up by asking for it on the FM mailing list, then start working on it. Anyone signed up with FM may edit any book, just like with a Wiki. Only setting up a new book requires admin help, and I think the new Booki software that FM will use soon will eliminate even that requirement. FM is set up to encourage this kind of thing, and believe me if anyone wanted to do a Spanish translation I'd be tickled to death. So no plans, but none are really needed in this case. Well, guess that somebody needs to announce this manual in the spanish-speaking lists and propose the translation effort? Maybe one of our fellow hackers from SA? Regards, Tomeu James Simmons On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: My FLOSS Manual Make Your Own Sugar Activities! made it to Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878 FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought you'd all like to know it's available. Any plans on translating it to Spanish? That's how I would expect it to reach much bigger impact. I think several people in the olpc-sur would be interested in helping out. Regards, Tomeu James Simmons ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Looking for suggestions
Brett, You might want to check out a couple of FLOSS Manuals I put together. The first one is finished, and is about developing Sugar Activities. The second is in progress and is about finding, using, creating and publishing e-books. http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar/Introduction http://en.flossmanuals.net/ReadingandSugar/Introduction Personally I think that Sugar is suited to high school students, and could be made more so with a bit of work on the Journal. My Activity Sugar Commander shows some ideas of what a more grown-up version of the Journal might be like. The new XOs will ship with both Sugar and GNOME, a desktop environment like Windows but without the viruses. This should make them quite appealing to older students. If you learn how to make e-books as described in the second book you can use them on several different platforms, including those cheap Android tablets that are coming out. There are lots of free e-books, many of which would be of interest to high school students. Let me know what you think. James Simmons Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 18:50:18 -0500 From: Brett Neese brne...@brneese.com Subject: [IAEP] Looking for suggestions To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org, grassro...@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: aanlktinh5x_9bxmp6ogn=ylmfo-kd_vvx3j=gcwkk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi there, I'm looking for some advice. My name is Brett Neese, and I'm currently a high school student at a school in Iowa, USA (although I'm planning on graduating early in December 2010). I have been working on a little project (in its current incarnation, it's more of an idea, really) I'm dubbing Project coEL. See, the OLPC project is great -- I think what you are doing in developing countries is terrific; I commend your efforts to bring computing to the poorest children in the world -- but in my opinion there are a few flaws; namely the fact that most developed countries, such as the US, don't currently have a large-scale XO deployment. While I understand that the need for these laptops in developing countries is MUCH greater than it is in the US (and I'm not trying to sound like greedy, rich, American or anything, either) , I also know from being a high-school student myself (albeit one with some learning difficulties) that the US needs some of this type of technology as well, especially for others who, like me, sometimes have trouble learning. My other issue is the fact that currently the Sugar user experience is in no way optimized for the high school learner. I think, from my experience, that if deployed in the US, the high school/secondary school student could benefit the most from this sort of technology and it could trickle down to the elementary level but, at present, the UX is not optimized for the way teachers teach and students learn in today's world. So those are my problems with OLPC. However, I don't think these issues are such in that we can't work together, either now or in the future. My overall vision for coEL is to bring a specially-designed hardware and software ecosystem to every high school in the US. You can read more about the overall vision in coEL's blog -- it's at http://projectcoel.tumblr.com/ http://projectcoel.tumblr.com/%20-- but in short it's a specially designed open-source laptop in the hand of every highschooler, along with the appropriate backend server and other hardware, a highly open and extensible API/SDK -- many of the same technological goals as the XO laptop -- which I why I'm asking for your help. You have great hardware, I'd love to build off of it, but in my opinion, your software is lacking, though with the XO-3 concepts floating around, and your recent partnership with Marvell, its only going to get better. I'll be honest, I don't program. I don't know anything about hardware RD, nor know anything about education at an administrative level. I?m just a 17-year-old high school student who, quite frankly, hates school and wants to make a difference in the world. I do, however, know a little bit about design; I interned at a mobile UX agency last year. But, in general, what I'm asking you, OLPC staff and volunteers, is this -- what can we do, together, to help make this vision become reality? More specifically, I want to start a grassroots effort, but I'm not quite sure where to go from here. Should I apply to the contributors program? Start a regional group? How? Participate in the IRC chatrooms? Edit the wiki? Any other suggestions/advice? In closing, I just wanted to thank you for reading this email. I realize its a little lengthy, and greatly appreciate your time. Please forgive me if I'm speaking out-of-turn here, and excuse me if I sent this to the wrong lists -- please forward this message on to the relevant lists if that is the case. Again, thanks so much, Brett Neese
Re: [IAEP] Looking for suggestions
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Tim McNamara
paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nzwrote:
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I'm really interested in what you think a Sugar for high school aged youth
would look like.
One thing that OLPC spent a lot of time on was the Human Interface
Guidelines. Some things have slipped, Sugar is moving away from integer
activity numbers only using verbs to describe activities, but on the whole
it's a very good read.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Human_Interface_Guidelines
Please reference http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Human_Interface_Guidelines; this
is the canonical copy, and includes a few updates.
Jim's suggestions on reviewing his Floss manuals,
http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar/Introduction
http://en.flossmanuals.net/ReadingandSugar/Introduction
are also good places to start.
--Fred
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