Re: [IAEP] [Sur] [OT] Dibujo animado sobre alimentos orgánicos

2012-02-11 Thread Carlos Rabassa
Walter,

Gracias por comentar hace unos días:

 I am guessing that Carlos wanted us to interpret the video as a metaphor for 
 the difference between instructionism and constructionism... not bad.


o sea,  en Español,

Estoy adivinando que Carlos quiso que nosotros interpretásemos el video como 
una metáfora para [explicar] la diferencia entre instruccionismo y 
construccionismo ... no está mal.

Hasta hoy he estado tratando de entender qué quisiste decir con esta frase.  
Hoy,  con más tiempo,  decidí comenzar por el principio y buscar la definición 
de estas dos palabras clave, instruccionismo y construccionismo,  que no 
aparecen en el diccionario,  ni en Inglés ni en Español.  Entiendo que son una 
creación de Seymour Papert que encontré leyendo uno de sus discursos, donde 
dice:

 All my work is focused on helping children learn, not on just teaching. Now 
I've coined a phrase for this: Constructionism and Instructionism are names for 
two approaches to educational innovation. Instructionism is the theory that 
says, To get better education, we must improve instruction. And if we're going 
to use computers, we'll make the computers do the instruction. And that leads 
into the whole idea of computer-aided instruction.
Well, teaching is important, but learning is much more important. And 
Constructionism means Giving children good things to do so that they can learn 
by doing much better than they could before. Now, I think that the new 
technologies are very, very rich in providing new things for children to do so 
that they can learn mathematics as part of something real.  

que traduzco:

Todo mi trabajo está enfocado a ayudar a los niños a aprender,  no en 
simplemente enseñar.  Ahora he acuñado una frase para esto: Construccionismo e 
instruccionismo son nombres para dos enfoques a la innovación en educación.  
Instruccionismo es la teoría que dice, Para conseguir mejor educación,  
debemos mejorar la instrucción.  Y si fuéramos a usar computadoras,  haremos 
que las computadoras hagan la instrucción.  Y esto conduce a la toda la idea 
de instrucción ayudada por computadoras.

Bueno,  enseñar es importante,  pero aprender es mucho más importante.  Y 
Constructivismo significa Dar a los niños cosas buenas para hacer de manera 
que,  puedan aprender haciendo,  mucho mejor que lo que podían [hacer] antes,  
Ahora, pienso que las nuevas tecnologías son muy, muy ricas en ofrecer cosas 
nuevas para que los niños hagan,  para que puedan aprender matemática como 
parte de algo real.

Recién ahora,  Walter,  y gracias a tu comentario,  me sentí en condiciones de 
pensar por qué compartí,  sin mucho pensar,  el dibujo animado de los alimentos 
orgánicos.

Recuerdo haber tomado la decisión simplemente porque me pareció muy bueno y 
pensé que podría inspirar a alumnos y educadores a explorar más el tema de usar 
las computadoras disponibles para trabajar en el área de animación.  Hace 
algunos años,  cuando me enteré de las enormes posibilidades de las XO en el 
campo de animación,  me entusiasmé mucho.  Traté de entusiasmar a otros pero 
pienso mi esfuerzo no tuvo efecto alguno.  Quedaron en mis archivos algunas 
notas que hice en esa época.  Vuelvo a compartirlas con la misma esperanza de 
que alguien se entusiasme con el tema:

S006 - Proyecto: Animación con Modelos Tridimensionales Reales

S007 - Proyect: Animación con Modelos Bidimensionales Reales

Ahora que creo tener más clara la diferencia entre constructivismo e 
instruccionismo,  analizo tu comentario.

Pienso que imitar lo que hicieron los creadores del dibujo animado,  
proponiendo a grupos de niños,  proyectos de creación de dibujos animados,  
sería una manera constructivista,  muy efectiva para enseñar muchas cosas 
útiles a todos los niños.  Me cuesta imaginar algún área de conocimiento que no 
pueda aprenderse creando dibujos animados.

El mismo video me parece una manera instruccionista,  muy efectiva para 
transmitir el mensaje de las virtudes de los alimentos orgánicos,  al público 
en general,  que entiendo fue la intención original de Chipotle cuando pensaron 
en crearlo.

No hay nada perfecto en este mundo.  Frecuentemente encuentro personas que 
piensan en forma dogmática,  que algo es perfecto y su opuesto tiene todos los 
defectos posibles y ninguna virtud.

Enseñar a niños,  si bien es muy difícil,  imagino que es mucho más fácil que 
enseñar al público en general.  Con los niños,  el camino constructivista suena 
muy convincente y ha sido probado con resultados muy positivos.  Hoy,  entre 
los maestros y las computadoras,  logran entusiasmarlos y lograr que tengan 
deseos de aprender.

Al público en general no le interesan los alimentos orgánicos.  Pierden aún más 
interés cuando una de las primeras cosas que aprenden sobre ellos es que son 
más caros y más difíciles de conseguir.  

Probablemente sea posible lograr caminos constructivistas para enseñar al 
público sobre alimentos orgánicos.  Creo que por ejemplo algunos 

Re: [IAEP] [Sur] TI MSP430 running on XO 1 - Robotics!

2012-02-11 Thread Dr. Gerald Ardito
Yama,

Thanks so much for sharing this.
I am planning to order some to test out with my students on the XOs.

Perhaps we can open some wiki pages devoted to this?

Cheers,
Gerald

2012/2/11 Luis Galindo llwwwl...@gmail.com

 I just bought the TI MSP430 to test it with the Xo 1.0.

 Thank you Yama :-)

 Luis

 El 10 de febrero de 2012 11:06, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comescribió:

 2012/2/10 Yamaplos . yamap...@gmail.com:
  The TI MSP430 chips are a very attractive alternative to add robotic
  options for XO / Sugar users. Microcontrolers are the brain behind
  many engineering hobby and educational pursuits, but many alternatives
  are expensive or very hard to run in the XO.
 
  The TI Launchpad board, with a G2553 microcontroler and an extra G2452
  in the box, is available from Texas Instruments for $4.30 USD,
  including shipping anywhere in the world (yes, hard to believe).
 
 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/MSP430_LaunchPad_%28MSP-EXP430G2%29
 
  Here are the instructions for running the Launchpad with the G2452.
  Maybe if the next iteratiuon of Sugar uses Fedora 15 we will be able
  to use the G2553 as well.
 
  http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OLPC_XO-1

 The next release will be based on F-17 but both those packages are
 listed. You might want to use one of the test releases based on F-17
 that I've released (new one coming soon) to make sure it all works OK
 and feedback any issues to ensure we get them fixed for the final
 release.

 Peter
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] butiá robot challenges in sumo.uy event

2012-02-11 Thread Andres Aguirre
http://vimeo.com/33399708

Nice video of the sumo.uy 2011 event where childrens participated
using olpc/sugar in sumo and in butia challenges.
regards
andres


On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com wrote:
 This is a great use of the XO.  So for comparison, how much would it cost
 for an arduino, with video camera, color display, speakers, speech to text
 capabilites, wireless internet?

 Plus you get programming environments like Scratch, Etoys and Turtle Art.

 My guess an XO would win and it does so much more!!!

 Stephen


 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Andres Aguirre aguir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Kevin!
 There are some more pics in flickr:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/butiarobot/sets/
 and some videos in http://www.youtube.com/proyectobutia
 cheers

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 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net
 wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 08:24:50PM -0300, Andres Aguirre wrote:
  Hi, I want to share with you what we was doing the last week here in
  Uruguay:
 
  http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/Review
  Hi Andres,
  this looks like more excellant work about the butiabot. I was showing
  photos of
  the bot at the Maker Faire NYC 2011 booth to all the kids and parents as
  your
  project is the one that shows how the kids are learning about robotics,
  programming and computational thinking. And also how people can derive
  new
  software and new educational uses with an 'open' approach in a learning
  environment.
 
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[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-02-11

2012-02-11 Thread Walter Bender
== Sugar Digest ==

1. Papert, of course, is well-known as the proponent of
constructionism, an educational theory which holds that students
learn best by doing—often with little guidance from teachers.

Perhaps I overreacted to a recent article about OLPC in which Seymour
Papert was cast in the role of anti-teacher. I've worked with
Seymour for more than 30 years and never once heard him disparage
teaching or teachers. And nothing in the Constructionist doctrine
suggests that teachers are not an important part of the learning
ecology. That said, Papert is a believer in the human capacity for
learning, where the role of a teacher is primarily to guide rather
than instruct. And yet the mischaracterization of Constructionism and
Papert persists, not only in the press, but in the writing of those
who should know better, educator researchers.

I apparently pushed the wrong button with an education researcher who
who dismissed Papert's self-learning constructionism largely as a
'myth.' I have several issues with the characterization, not the
least of which is the use of the modifier, self-learning. The same
researcher back-peddled slightly:

 I agree that Papert does not generally talk about cutting teachers
 out of the loop entirely, though he does discuss learning about
 differential gears on his own and discovering more about mathematics
 from them than he learned in most of his mathematics classes. So
 the sentence Papert, of course, is well-known as the proponent of
 'constructionism,' an educational theory which holds that students
 learn best by doing—often with little guidance from teachers could
 be misleading in that it doesn't fully articulate the teachers as co-
learners aspect that Papert discusses in his writings, although it
 does convey Papert's view that teachers should take a back seat
 to children's interests and that some children may be inspired to
 learn on their own.

It is debilitating to all of our efforts that an educational
researcher with such a shallow understanding of Papert is being widely
quoted as an expert on one-to-one computing. But it gets worse still.
The data that are being cited regarding the use of Sugar are terribly
flawed. For example, rough estimates of what activities were used most
often tells us next to nothing about what is being learned. And those
data are interpreted in ways that are blind to the learning that may
be happening. For example, to summarily dismiss activities—such as
chatting—as less sophisticated (and presumably less valuable) uses of
the computer is to miss the point entirely. When a primary goal is
literacy, engagement in an activity that so directly encourages
children to read and write is a plus. Alas, the old saw, we value
what we measure instead of measure what we value, sums up the
situation.

Meanwhile, the OLPC/Sugar Learning Team takes assessment very serious
and has been developing a number of mechanism to dig beneath the
surface. In addition to satisfying the needs of stakeholders and
academics, we are also trying to develop metrics that serve the
learner and the teacher. Hopefully our efforts will go some ways to
shining a light on what is actually happening in the communities using
Sugar—the good and the bad—so that we can learn and improve. In the
meantime, we will have to withstand a storm of misinformation and
distortion.

2. Google Summer of Code (GSoC) [1] is gearing up for 2012. It is a
nice opportunity to get some new developers on board. As a community,
we need to get ourselves organized: specifically, over the next few
weeks, we need to identify potential projects that might attract
interns to apply to Sugar Labs. I've set up a page in the wiki for
aggregating project ideas [2]. Anyone in the community is welcome to
make suggestions regarding a project that you think would make Sugar a
better platform. (Projects that are relatively self-contained tend to
be better for GSoC since their is a finite window in which to work on
it.)

If you are interesting in being a mentor, please contact me. Also,
please encourage any talented university students you may know to
apply to the program. Applications are not due until late March, but
it is best to start the conversation sooner than later. (Note that
applications submitted to Google must be made in English, but
mentoring can happen in any language, e.g., Spanish. We will gladly
help potential applicants with their proposals even if English is
their first language.)

=== In the community ===

3. There will be a OLPC/Sugar documentation sprint from April 6-10 at
the OLPC headquarters in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Please contact Adam
Holt if you are interested in participating, either in person or on
line.

4. There will be an eduJAM! in the  week of May 7-12 in Montevideo.
Details to follow.

5. The week following eduJAM! will be a Squeakfest, also in Montevideo
(May 16-18).

=== Tech Talk ===

6. Gonzalo Odiard has gone through the open tickets on
bugs.sugarlabs.org and identified