Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election

2016-08-05 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi

Glad to hear you were able to get some rest :D

On 5 August 2016 at 18:57, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
>
> ...
> qualify by actually making some tangible "contribution" (not money) to
Sugar Labs
> [by] development of software or hardware, having a small deployment,
hosting Sugar
> Labs and OLPC events
> ...
> We should end up with, hopefully, a complete, up-to-date list, with
current
> valid email addresses, of all contributors to Sugar Labs projects (of any
kind)
> who desire to be members.

I agree that we could clarify how we determine what level of contribution
counts to make one eligible for membership.

I propose the following are sufficient:

- owning a computer or being part of an organization that owns computers
that regularly use Sugar

- creating a wiki account and making 1 edit to the wiki

- posting to a SL mailing list

- contributing a patch to a sugar software package

- owning a laptop.org or sugarlabs.org email account, now or in the past

What are possible verifiable criteria are possible? Should any of these not
count?

:)

Cheers
Dave
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Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election

2016-08-05 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi Folks…
A few minutes away from "Camp Grandma and Grandpa" to check emails (it's nap 
time).
This is all well and good, however in the past (when I first joined Sugar Labs) 
members had to qualify by actually making some tangible "contribution" (not 
money) to Sugar Labs. This could be development of software or hardware, having 
a small deployment, hosting Sugar Labs and OLPC events, and the like. We didn't 
simply say, "Hey, why don't you sign up and be a member?" 
What you are suggesting seems to throw away all criteria for membership, other 
than a person saying, "Sure, sign me up."
This cheapens both the organization and discounts the efforts of the many, many 
members who have done so much work in the past.
I do think getting the membership list up-to-date in a timely manner is a great 
idea and I am glad Dave is volunteering to do the job. The list we were left 
with for last year's election was a total mess and the names  of many folks, 
who were long time contributors, were missing. Hopefully we caught all of them 
by sending numerous emails keeping everyone up-to-date on the progress of the 
election. Many replied with "Hey, how come I didn't get my ballot yet? 
I urge caution in going forward with this. We should end up with, hopefully, a 
complete, up-to-date list, with current valid email addresses, of all 
contributors to Sugar Labs projects (of any kind) who desire to be members. 
Bigger isn't better in this case. Quantity definitely does not mean quality.
Caryl
Now, off to get my nap! Five-year-olds can be exhausting and if she is napping 
now, she will go to bed late tonight!
From: d...@lab6.com
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:45:12 -0400
To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; samsongo...@sugarlabs.org; ca...@laptop.org; 
sebast...@fuentelibre.org
Subject: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election


Hi
In today's meeting, Seb mentioned the 2017 SLOB election is coming up fast and 
should happen in (early) December. 
The election commitee last year was Samson, Caryl, and Sebastian, and Seb 
invited me to join, which I am happy to :)
I suggest we start making steady progress and update the community at each 
monthly SLOB meeting for the next 4 meetings that remain this year.
http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98 says "The 
top four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three will serve 1 
year terms" and here's the ordered list:
1. Walter Bender2. Lionel Laské3. Adam Holt4. Sameer Verma5. Claudia Urrea6. 
Tony Anderson7. Jose Miguel Garcia
Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this year.
The first thing I think needs to be done is to get a confirmed list of members. 
I can take care of it this month. 
Currently the member list is maintained in a Google Docs spreadsheet. Seb 
confirmed members were not contacted so far this year; the only activity is to 
add some new members to the sheet this year. Walter suggested a mass email to 
ask members to confirm/update their member status, and indeed it seems to me 
that the #1 purpose of the sheet is to have a list of people to email about 
Sugar Labs business.
So I propose that, since at the last meeting a motion to ask members for dinero 
passed, and since I have a large list of everyone who ever mailed a SL mailing 
list, everyone who every made a wiki account, and this members spreadsheet, I 
will mail all these people once to ask if they want to be 'members,' which I 
propose to define as having an email registed on a sugarlabs-annouce mailing 
list. This way there is no ambiguity that only paying members are members; 
instead it can be clear anyone on that mailing list is a member, and no payment 
is needed. I think it would be good to promise not to mail this announce list 
more than once a calendar month, and to configure the list as a public list 
where joining is moderated and so is emailing the list (ie, it can only be made 
by authorized persons.) Seb supported this idea.
For people who are not on the list, it seems there is already a procedure 
defined for how to deal with them. 
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Currency_assurance_policy 
says, "In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is reflective of 
the current status of the project and its participants, once a year members 
will be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If 
this request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to after it has been 
a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, and c) six months have 
passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an invitation to 
reapply." Therefore 6 months after this email, I can send a known-good list of 
accounts to remove from the wiki and we'll have a definitive active members 
list. 
So, I volunteer to do the following before the next SLOB meeting:
- I will ask Sam C to set up a new sugar-annou...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailing 
list with himself, myself, samson, caryl and seb as list admins. 
- 

Re: [IAEP] Summer Finance Report & How to Appoint a FM?

2016-08-05 Thread Adam Holt
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

>

>
> Hi Adam
>
> I'm curious if you have any news about the state of the finances?

No major financial news in the past month that I know of so far.  Profound
apologies I'm now going thru customs and missed the meeting earlier this
afternoon.  Let's keep on it so that a quarterly financial report is both
reasonable & appropriate shortly after Sept 30 when the next quarter begins.

> In the SLOB meeting, Walter mentioned he thought you may be taking the
lead on deciding how to appoint a Financial Manager; if you don't expect to
be able to dive into the ledger-cli stuff in the summer months, perhaps you
could share some thoughts about this topic instead? :)
>
> Cheers
> Dave


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[IAEP] Translations Community Manager Blog & Summer Report

2016-08-05 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Chris!

We missed you at the SLOB meeting today :)

Laura mentioned she received some PO files for a translation to Miksito,
and asked about funds availability.

Also for an update on the status of the Yoruba project, Samson said he got
the 1st payment! But it was short US$10, haha :) Will it be possible to add
$10 to the next payment? What's next?

I'm also curious about the state of the blog you said you were setting up.
I'm happy to set up a Jekyll blog for you, if that would be helpful (eg
http://sugarlabs.github.io/translations) and help edit any draft posts you
may have already :)

-- 
Cheers
Dave
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[IAEP] Summer Finance Report & How to Appoint a FM?

2016-08-05 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam

I'm curious if you have any news about the state of the finances?

In the SLOB meeting, Walter mentioned he thought you may be taking the lead
on deciding how to appoint a Financial Manager; if you don't expect to be
able to dive into the ledger-cli stuff in the summer months, perhaps you
could share some thoughts about this topic instead? :)

Cheers
Dave
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] Meeting reminder

2016-08-05 Thread Lionel Laské
Sorry. Not sure at all that I could be there due to the limited internet
connection I've got.

Lionel.


2016-08-05 0:20 GMT+02:00 Walter Bender :

> We have a Sugar Labs oversight board meeting on Friday, 5 August at 19UTC
> *. Please join us on irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting
>
> Among the discussion topics: Turtle Art Days in Abuja, Asuncion, and
> Montevideo
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
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> * http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=
> 20160805T15=43=Sugar+Labs+oversight+board+meeting=cursive
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Meeting reminder

2016-08-05 Thread Tony Anderson
AFAIK there are no proposed motions to be considered at this meeting. 
This should leave ample time for a
financial report and a report from the Translations Community Manager - 
specifically providing an update on the status
of the Yoruba project. Last meeting we gave ourselves the task to 
appoint a Financial Manager. We need to discuss how this

is to be accomplished.

Tony

On 08/05/2016 04:16 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

Hi Guys…

I'll probably have to miss the meeting tomorrow as we are in the 
middle of "Camp Grandma and Grandpa." Our 5-year-old granddaughter is 
keeping us busy (_really_ busy).


See you all next month (if not tomorrow),
Caryl


From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:20:27 -0400
To: sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: [IAEP] [SLOB] Meeting reminder
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
olpc-...@lists.laptop.org


We have a Sugar Labs oversight board meeting on Friday, 5 August at 
19UTC *. Please join us on irc.freenode.net  
#sugar-meeting


Among the discussion topics: Turtle Art Days in Abuja, Asuncion, and 
Montevideo


regards.

-walter

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Sugar Labs
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