Re: [IAEP] OLPC San Francisco Jan 2020 meeting

[Sameer Verma]

Quick update:

We meet in room 609.

Sameer

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020, 10:25 AM Sameer Verma  wrote:

> Happy New Year!
>
> We will be holding our January meeting on Jan 11 2020 from 10AM to 1PM at
> the SF State University Downtown Campus. This meeting marks completion of
> 12 years of the volunteer group.
>
> This is a celebratory meeting, so bring your cheers and cheerful
> condiments :-) There may be cake!
>
> SFSU Downtown Campus
> 6th Floor, 835 Market St.
> San Francisco, CA 94103
> https://www.olpcsf.org/
>
> cheers,
> Sameer
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[IAEP] OLPC San Francisco Jan 2020 meeting

[Sameer Verma]

Happy New Year!

We will be holding our January meeting on Jan 11 2020 from 10AM to 1PM at
the SF State University Downtown Campus. This meeting marks completion of
12 years of the volunteer group.

This is a celebratory meeting, so bring your cheers and cheerful condiments
:-) There may be cake!

SFSU Downtown Campus
6th Floor, 835 Market St.
San Francisco, CA 94103
https://www.olpcsf.org/

cheers,
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[IAEP] OLPC-SF March meeting

[Sameer Verma]

Greetings!

OLPC San Francisco will be meeting this coming Saturday (March 9).

When: 10AM to 1PM
Where: SFSU Downtown Campus. DTC 610, 835 Market St. San Francisco 94103
Topics: Project updates, progress on Snapcraft images of Pathagar for
school server and such.

Join us!

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[IAEP] OLPC SF meeting - February 9, 2019

[Sameer Verma]

Greetings!

OLPC San Francisco will be meeting this coming Saturday.

When: 10AM to 1PM
Where: SFSU Downtown Campus. DTC 610, 835 Market St. San Francisco 94103
Topics: Updates on Ethiopia (Andi Gros) and Honduras (Sameer Verma).
Possible new project in Guatemala.
Snapcraft images of Pathagar for school server and such.

Join us!

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Re: [IAEP] Happy birthday, OLPC-SF!

[Sameer Verma]

We have a last minute room change. Same building and floor, but room 609
instead of 610.

Sameer

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 10:30 AM Sameer Verma  Happy birthday to OLPC-SF! We meet to celebrate the group's beginnings
> in January 2008. As we begin our 12th year, join us to exchange
> stories, share ideas, and bring updates. Bring a friend or three!
>
> Room 610 (sixth floor).
> 835 Market St.
> San Francisco, CA 94103-1901
>
> Saturday, Jan 12, 2019 from 10AM to 1PM.
>
> cheers,
> Sameer
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[IAEP] Happy birthday, OLPC-SF!

[Sameer Verma]

Happy birthday to OLPC-SF! We meet to celebrate the group's beginnings
in January 2008. As we begin our 12th year, join us to exchange
stories, share ideas, and bring updates. Bring a friend or three!

Room 610 (sixth floor).
835 Market St.
San Francisco, CA 94103-1901

Saturday, Jan 12, 2019 from 10AM to 1PM.

cheers,
Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] [sfconservancy.org #1322] For Approval: Jaskirat Singh funding and advance for travel to GSoC mentor summit

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 3:38 PM Samson Goddy  wrote:

> Seconded
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 1:32 AM Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>> A bit of context:
>>
>> We are assigned 3 slots for GSoC mentors to attend the mentor summit. I
>> am hoping that Devin and Jaskirat will be able to attend, along with one
>> TBD. We will get $3300 from Google to cover all of the expenses, which
>> should easily cover Devin (domestic travel)  and Jaskirat (international)
>> and one more domestic traveler. (Google will also be covering the local
>> hotel and meal expenses.)
>>
>> Motion: To approve a travel advance for Jaskirat to attend the Google
>> Summer of Code mentor summit in October 2018.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:15 PM Brett Smith via RT <
>> approv...@tix.sfconservancy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi SLOBs,
>>>
>>> Jaskirat Singh is traveling to the GSoC mentor summit.  Because he's
>>> coming from India, he's asked us to prepay a number of expenses, which
>>> we're happy to do as long as you approve.
>>>
>>> First, he has requested an advance of 43,700.00 INR (about $625) to
>>> cover expenses related to getting his visa and ground transportation in
>>> India.  He provided this budget:
>>>
>>> VISA Fees - 11200 INR
>>> Travelling agent and Consultant charges - 7000 INR
>>> As i have to travel for the VISA Documentation and Interview to other
>>> states so for that i have 2 dates consecutively ( VISA appointment letter
>>> attached), So for that Hotel Charge for 1 night and 2 days - 7000 INR
>>> Meals for this purpose ( 2 days ) - 2000 INR (approx.)
>>> Taxi fare from my location to the US Embassy - 4000 INR + toll and taxes
>>> ( approx ).
>>> As per the rules VISA Documentation and Interview takes place at
>>> different place and VISA Collection gets issued from the different location
>>> which is the part of another state, so for that Taxi Fare - 2500 INR
>>> Taxi fare from Home to Airport - 5000 INR + toll and taxes ( approx )
>>> Taxi fare from airport to back Home - 5000 INR + toll and taxes ( approx
>>> )
>>>
>>> Please let us know whether or not you approve sending him money for
>>> these expenses ahead of time.  We'll still ask him to provide receipts
>>> after the fact as required for all travel under our policies.
>>>
>>> Note that, between this advance and the flight he's asking us to book,
>>> Jaskirat's travel is likely to exceed $1,000, meaning some of it will be
>>> paid out of Sugar's general fund and not covered by the money coming from
>>> Google for GSoC.  Please let us know what total travel budget you're
>>> willing to set for Jaskirat.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brett Smith
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> 
>>
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[IAEP] OLPC SF August '18 meeting

[Sameer Verma]

Please note that we will not be meeting this month due to several
conflicting travel schedules over the summer.

Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC SF: Ethiopia Update

[Sameer Verma]

Live stream is up at https://youtu.be/f5DHtPu8X50

Sameer

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 1:49 PM Patricia Escauriza <
pescaur...@paraguayeduca.org> wrote:

> That would be very useful for us in Paraguay.. since we are using Sugar in
> other laptops besides XO.. please share a summary after the meeting.
>
> regards
>
> 2018-07-12 1:06 GMT-04:00 Sameer Verma :
>
>> Andi Gros is back from Ethiopia! This project has OLPC NL3 laptops and
>> multiple School Servers. Andi has a bunch of updates. Come by on
>> Saturday and get it straight from him :-)
>>
>> Details and RSVP: https://www.olpcsf.org/node/266
>>
>> cheers,
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>> Professor, Information Systems
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC SF: Ethiopia Update

[Sameer Verma]

We'll post a live stream/recording via http://youtube.com/olpcsf

Sameer

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Patricia Escauriza <
pescaur...@paraguayeduca.org> wrote:

> That would be very useful for us in Paraguay.. since we are using Sugar in
> other laptops besides XO.. please share a summary after the meeting.
>
> regards
>
> 2018-07-12 1:06 GMT-04:00 Sameer Verma :
>
>> Andi Gros is back from Ethiopia! This project has OLPC NL3 laptops and
>> multiple School Servers. Andi has a bunch of updates. Come by on
>> Saturday and get it straight from him :-)
>>
>> Details and RSVP: https://www.olpcsf.org/node/266
>>
>> cheers,
>> --
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>> Professor, Information Systems
>> San Francisco State University
>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
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[IAEP] OLPC SF: Ethiopia Update

[Sameer Verma]

Andi Gros is back from Ethiopia! This project has OLPC NL3 laptops and
multiple School Servers. Andi has a bunch of updates. Come by on
Saturday and get it straight from him :-)

Details and RSVP: https://www.olpcsf.org/node/266

cheers,
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF June meeting Saturday

[Sameer Verma]

Room change for today. We meet in room 612. Same floor, same building.

Sameer

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 6:51 PM Aaron D Borden  wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting this Saturday,
> June 9th, from 10:00AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
> Street, San Francisco, CA. 6th floor, room 607.
>
> Agenda
> - Meet and greet
> - Project updates
>
> Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
> welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
> latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
> projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
> play around with, too.
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Action required: Devin Ulibarri travel/stipend

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer


On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Community feedback here
>
> I wondered about the original $50 allowed for expenses... it seemed
> unrealistically low at the time... guess I should have said something then!
>
> Of course he should be able to use the honorarium to defray his costs!
>
>
> GrannieB
>
>
> 
> From: IAEP <iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org> on behalf of Samson Goddy
> <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:33:25 AM
> To: Walter Bender
> Cc: iaep; Sugar-dev Devel; OLPC para usuarios, docentes, voluntarios y
> administradores; SLOBs
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] Action required: Devin Ulibarri travel/stipend
>
> Seconded
>
>
>
>
>
> - Samson
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I was hoping to discuss this at the May meeting, but no one was able to
> attend that meeting.
>
> Devin went to Japan to run some Music Blocks workshops. We had allocated a
> budget for him was US $1200 for his ticket and US $50 for local expenses
> (See [1]). Devin incurred some additional expenses above and beyond what we
> budgeted -- extra local travel and some equipment needed for the workshops
> (speakers).
>
> One of the schools he visited -- the Yokohama Science Frontiers school --
> offered Devin an honorarium of ~US $500, which they sent to the SFC.  ,These
> funds would cover his additional costs. The SFC won't release this money
> without our approval. It would amount to US $450 after the 10% allocation by
> the SFC.
>
> Motion: Approve the payment of US $450 as an honorarium to Devin Ulibarri
> for his workshops in Japan.
>
> I don't think there is anything controversial here, but of course, your
> feedback (and community feedback) is most appreciated.
>
> Someone would have to second this motion so that we can vote on it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -walter
>
> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions#2018-01-09
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Re: [IAEP] Community Summit 2018

[Sameer Verma]

Friendly reminder. We begin the hackathon tomorrow!

http://hackathon.sfsu.edu/

Sameer

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018, 11:36 AM Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:

> Remember our Community Summit? We didn't host one last year due to
> logistical challenges and such, but we are getting ready to host one
> this year! We have joined forces with open source, open data, and open
> education communities at San Francisco State University to organize a
> weekend hackathon. Details will be out shortly, but mark your
> calendars.
>
> April 27-29, 2018
>
> https://www.olpcsf.org/open-hack-2018
>
> cheers,
> Sameer
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[IAEP] Community Summit = OpenHack 2018

[Sameer Verma]

Also posted at: https://www.olpcsf.org/node/265

This year's event is a little different. We are joining forces with
some of the other projects in the Commons space at San Francisco State
University. This year's event is called Open Hack 2018.
 The event is largely scheduled to run on Saturday (April 28) and
Sunday (April 29). Will have a meet-and-greet event on Friday evening
(April 27), but the main event will begin on Saturday (April 28).

The format is as follows:

1) What we typically refer to as "projects" are called "Challenges" in
this format. Anybody can Submit a Challenge. When submitting the
Challenge, you have to provide us with information about the Challenge
itself, existing resources, people involved, and the kinds of skills
that you may find helpful in completing this challenge. The goal is
that we would want to complete some degree of the Challenge by the
time we get to Sunday afternoon.

2) The Challenges will be printed and posted up on the wall starting
Friday (April 27). On Saturday morning (April 28), people who come in
will assign themselves to different challenges. It's quite common for
some of the challenges to not have any interested people. That's okay.

3) As we start to see a cluster of people collecting on a given
Challenge, we will allocate a room for them and then that room becomes
their space for the next day and a half. Unlike in the past, where we
had timed sessions (typically 75 minutes), these groups get to work on
their problem for the entire day Saturday and half day Sunday.

4) On Sunday afternoon, they present their progress and future
direction. The work (code, content, etc) will have to be made
available some place (a repo such as github) via a FOSS, or
CreativeCommons, or OpenData license.

5) After the presentations, a panel of judges will determine some form
of ranking. There may also be some token prizes.

This is somewhat different from what we've done in the past, but given
the level of maturity in our projects, and the amount of focus that is
needed to work on fixing bugs and building upon what we already have,
the hackathon approach seems to be more apt than simple presentations.
If you have somebody in mind who cannot be there physically, you can
always bring them in online. The rooms are fairly well equipped, with
whiteboards, projectors and Internet access. We are also in the
process of arranging for other operational logistics.

In the time being, take a look at the information, the code of
conduct, and submit a challenge. http://hackathon.sfsu.edu/

Registration is open. Register at
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/open-hack-sf-2018-san-francisco-state-university-hackathon-tickets-45329250007

Also, let us know if you plan to attend, so we can look out for other
arrangements as well, as necessary.

Sameer Verma: sve...@sfsu.edu
Aaron Borden: adborr...@live.com
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[IAEP] Community Summit 2018

[Sameer Verma]

Remember our Community Summit? We didn't host one last year due to
logistical challenges and such, but we are getting ready to host one
this year! We have joined forces with open source, open data, and open
education communities at San Francisco State University to organize a
weekend hackathon. Details will be out shortly, but mark your
calendars.

April 27-29, 2018

https://www.olpcsf.org/open-hack-2018

cheers,
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[IAEP] Sugarlabs goals - a peek

[Sameer Verma]

Greetings!

Before we get down to examining the feedback, here's a peek into what
we have so far. I've removed names, time frame etc. for now.

Take a look and see if you think we are missing items.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EeOIBlP26ALav3At3l-IxiCyO4DAGfagMfi4QfMTO5Y/edit?usp=sharing

If you'd like to provide more feedback/ideas, please do so at
https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2

We'll keep this open for another week (March 9, 2018).

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[IAEP] Gathering ideas for Sugarlabs

[Sameer Verma]

If you haven't already, can you post your ideas/suggestions here?

https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2

Original discussion at
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2018-January/020379.html

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs - Goals for 2018 and beyond

[Sameer Verma]

Alex,
Can you post it here? https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2

Sameer

On Jan 24, 2018 12:37 PM, "Sameer Verma" <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Alex Perez <ape...@alexperez.com> wrote:
> Sameer,
>
> Apologies for top-posting.
>
> For 2018, I would really like to see Sugar Labs get behind and commit to
> getting the core of Sugar working fully with Python 3. I personally
believe
> this is critical to its long(er) term success, as Python 2 continues be
> deprecated. Python 2 will not be supported at all past 2020 (see
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/)
>
> I asked Walter about the feasibility of this, to which he reiplied "we
had a
> GSoC intern do a pretty thorough investigation a few years ago. Doesn't
look
> like a lot of work for Sugar itself (or the toolkit). But updating all of
> the activities will be a chore."
>
> Personally I would propose that this be done under contract to someone
with
> a very complete understanding of the differences and best coding practices
> between Python 2 and 3 (eg, a "professional"), due to the importance of
> getting this right the first time. Will that cost some money? Absolutely,
> but I suspect that it would be money well spent.
>
> I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

Hi Alex,
Thanks for the reply. I was waiting to hear from someone on this.

Instead of replying to your question (for good reasons), I'll comment
on some meta stuff.

1) We want your thoughts, but hold off for a bit. I've got the form
set up for most part. School is back in session this week, so I'm a
bit busy. We'd like your thoughts via that form. In fact, we'd like
your thoughts there, and prevent discussions about it for a bit until
we are ready.

2) The proposal is for Sugarlabs, the organization and not Sugar, the
software project. FOSS projects have their own mechanisms of managing
growth, directions etc. but my current proposal isn't about Sugar the
software project. It is about Sugarlabs, the organization (Note that
SFC is the umbrella under which we operate and utilize SFC for legal
and fiscal affairs, but SFC isn't the org. I know that we use
conflicting terms, but for the purpose of this exercise, I'm going to
ask people to focus on Sugarlabs as the unit of analysis). This is an
important distinction. That said, I'm sure we'll get several
suggestions about Sugar as opposed to Sugarlabs, but we'll take it and
separate out the best we can.

Give me a few days to get things operationalized.

thanks,
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>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> Here is a proposal to solicit various goals towards mission of
>> Sugarlabs. I am sending this out as per my comments on the recent
>> #sugar-meeting on IRC.
>>
>> In the past, I have noticed that whenever we propose to discuss
>> various goals that this community may pursue, we tend to fail quite
>> rapidly at not arriving at a consensus. It is not that we have
>> incorrect ideas about how we think the project should proceed. We tend
>> to disagree prematurely. To remedy the situation, I am proposing that
>> we gather opinions from the community about goals and do so in a
>> manner where it remains temporarily shielded from public view. Then,
>> at a given time (say two weeks) we make all of these items public.
>> This may reveal if we have convergent ideas or if we are still very
>> divergent. Either is okay.
>>
>> Next, we would try to merge similar items into tangible goals with a
>> specific time frame. Depending on who the champions are for a specific
>> goal and its objectives, these people may then band together into an
>> ad-hoc group and pursue said goals.
>>
>> The time line for this project is relatively short. I propose that we
>> collect ideas for two weeks. At the end of two weeks, we would then
>> make the items public, and solicit more ideas for a third week. At the
>> end of the third week, we would then try to collate similar responses
>> into clusters of tangible goals. From there on, each set of goals may
>> be pursued independently, depending on its sponsors, champions,
>> supporters and participants.
>>
>> If this sounds like something that will help us move forward, I am
>> ready to set this in motion. I have already discussed this with
>> Hillary Naylor, who is an active participant in our OLPC-SF group.
>> When it's time to collate responses, I may solicit some more help from
>> some of you.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Sameer
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>> Professor, Information Systems
>> San Francisco State University
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2018 Goals idea

[Sameer Verma]

If you haven't already, can you also post it here?
https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2

Sameer

On Feb 3, 2018 7:23 AM, "Jaskirat Singh"  wrote:

> Hello ,
>
> I am Jaskirat Singh, SL community member.
> Seeking towards Sugar labs Goals 2018 Well, it will be good to have a
> program like  showcase Schools , that means we could make an event or
> program named as SHOWCASE SUGAR LABS SCHOOLS in which our marketing team
> should get involved and  target schools , and other educational centers ,
> conducting seminars and guiding teachers, getting introduced about the
> Sugar labs and how it can be beneficial to them . We could have some type
> of achievements in that so that if a particular school satisfy that
> criteria will be given a title of SL authorized labs .
> Moreover for this we can conduct online competitions . Because as far i
> have observed is that schools involve only when they are benefitted in some
> way . So it is also necessary to conduct some programs competitions
> then only we will be able to promote and spread SL across the globe
> ...!
> So for this  The schools which will become SL showcase schools ,will have
> those seminars and also later we can make STUDENT EXPERTS in those
> particular schools so that those students after going through all the
> things in SL will conduct seminars and all other events and teach others
> about the things like activities ( music blocks ,turtle, etc) and when they
> will tell about this to others then they will seek more users.
> But as far i know that this could only be possible if we develop some
> program and allow more school comp department teachers to compete in those
> ( by documentation work that they have to pick an activity or something
> related to sugar,  use sugar things ,and develop something with help of
> those resources and then send to us ...so will go through it and select the
> work according to it we can select schools for showcase and also these type
> of schools can be given some type of rewards ) i think it will be good to
> outreach ...! And yes will be interested too also for this we can go for
> special website named as education center for it where users can have
> different courses for it and go through it. Even i have started to get SL
> introduced in nearby schools.
> I hope this idea would work and please feel free to talk about these for
> suggestions as well as opinions
>
> Thanks
>
> JASKIRAT SINGH
>
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Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs goals

[Sameer Verma]

Some clarifications.

Try to stick to one idea per submission. Multiple submissions are ok.

Sameer

On Feb 2, 2018 10:19 AM, "Sameer Verma" <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> Here's a form to collect your ideas on goals that Sugarlabs should pursue.
> Take a look and suggest goals that will help us further our mission.
>
> Once we have this information, we will release the data to the community
> and follow up with clustering ideas into specific goals that we may pursue.
>
>
> https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2
>
> Cheers,
> Sameer
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[IAEP] Sugarlabs goals

[Sameer Verma]

Greetings!

Here's a form to collect your ideas on goals that Sugarlabs should pursue.
Take a look and suggest goals that will help us further our mission.

Once we have this information, we will release the data to the community
and follow up with clustering ideas into specific goals that we may pursue.


https://goo.gl/forms/PV3SV8opzBnb1eqw2

Cheers,
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Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs - Goals

[Sameer Verma]

Thanks, Dave! I haven't forgotten your persistence :-)

I really appreciate your continued interest. In fact, I may need your
assistance at some point, once we have a healthy set of responses.

Stay tuned.

Sameer
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
> This is great! Thank you Sameer!
>
> I recently began updating the ideas I drafted a few years ago with Samson.
> Please let us know where to submit the ideas when you are ready :D
>
> On 11 January 2018 at 17:21, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> Here is a proposal to solicit various goals towards mission of
>> Sugarlabs. I am sending this out as per my comments on the recent
>> #sugar-meeting on IRC.
>>
>> In the past, I have noticed that whenever we propose to discuss
>> various goals that this community may pursue, we tend to fail quite
>> rapidly at not arriving at a consensus. It is not that we have
>> incorrect ideas about how we think the project should proceed. We tend
>> to disagree prematurely. To remedy the situation, I am proposing that
>> we gather opinions from the community about goals and do so in a
>> manner where it remains temporarily shielded from public view. Then,
>> at a given time (say two weeks) we make all of these items public.
>> This may reveal if we have convergent ideas or if we are still very
>> divergent. Either is okay.
>>
>> Next, we would try to merge similar items into tangible goals with a
>> specific time frame. Depending on who the champions are for a specific
>> goal and its objectives, these people may then band together into an
>> ad-hoc group and pursue said goals.
>>
>> The time line for this project is relatively short. I propose that we
>> collect ideas for two weeks. At the end of two weeks, we would then
>> make the items public, and solicit more ideas for a third week. At the
>> end of the third week, we would then try to collate similar responses
>> into clusters of tangible goals. From there on, each set of goals may
>> be pursued independently, depending on its sponsors, champions,
>> supporters and participants.
>>
>> If this sounds like something that will help us move forward, I am
>> ready to set this in motion. I have already discussed this with
>> Hillary Naylor, who is an active participant in our OLPC-SF group.
>> When it's time to collate responses, I may solicit some more help from
>> some of you.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Sameer
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>> Professor, Information Systems
>> San Francisco State University
>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs - Goals for 2018 and beyond

[Sameer Verma]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Alex Perez <ape...@alexperez.com> wrote:
> Sameer,
>
> Apologies for top-posting.
>
> For 2018, I would really like to see Sugar Labs get behind and commit to
> getting the core of Sugar working fully with Python 3. I personally believe
> this is critical to its long(er) term success, as Python 2 continues be
> deprecated. Python 2 will not be supported at all past 2020 (see
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/)
>
> I asked Walter about the feasibility of this, to which he reiplied "we had a
> GSoC intern do a pretty thorough investigation a few years ago. Doesn't look
> like a lot of work for Sugar itself (or the toolkit). But updating all of
> the activities will be a chore."
>
> Personally I would propose that this be done under contract to someone with
> a very complete understanding of the differences and best coding practices
> between Python 2 and 3 (eg, a "professional"), due to the importance of
> getting this right the first time. Will that cost some money? Absolutely,
> but I suspect that it would be money well spent.
>
> I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

Hi Alex,
Thanks for the reply. I was waiting to hear from someone on this.

Instead of replying to your question (for good reasons), I'll comment
on some meta stuff.

1) We want your thoughts, but hold off for a bit. I've got the form
set up for most part. School is back in session this week, so I'm a
bit busy. We'd like your thoughts via that form. In fact, we'd like
your thoughts there, and prevent discussions about it for a bit until
we are ready.

2) The proposal is for Sugarlabs, the organization and not Sugar, the
software project. FOSS projects have their own mechanisms of managing
growth, directions etc. but my current proposal isn't about Sugar the
software project. It is about Sugarlabs, the organization (Note that
SFC is the umbrella under which we operate and utilize SFC for legal
and fiscal affairs, but SFC isn't the org. I know that we use
conflicting terms, but for the purpose of this exercise, I'm going to
ask people to focus on Sugarlabs as the unit of analysis). This is an
important distinction. That said, I'm sure we'll get several
suggestions about Sugar as opposed to Sugarlabs, but we'll take it and
separate out the best we can.

Give me a few days to get things operationalized.

thanks,
Sameer
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Professor, Information Systems
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>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> Here is a proposal to solicit various goals towards mission of
>> Sugarlabs. I am sending this out as per my comments on the recent
>> #sugar-meeting on IRC.
>>
>> In the past, I have noticed that whenever we propose to discuss
>> various goals that this community may pursue, we tend to fail quite
>> rapidly at not arriving at a consensus. It is not that we have
>> incorrect ideas about how we think the project should proceed. We tend
>> to disagree prematurely. To remedy the situation, I am proposing that
>> we gather opinions from the community about goals and do so in a
>> manner where it remains temporarily shielded from public view. Then,
>> at a given time (say two weeks) we make all of these items public.
>> This may reveal if we have convergent ideas or if we are still very
>> divergent. Either is okay.
>>
>> Next, we would try to merge similar items into tangible goals with a
>> specific time frame. Depending on who the champions are for a specific
>> goal and its objectives, these people may then band together into an
>> ad-hoc group and pursue said goals.
>>
>> The time line for this project is relatively short. I propose that we
>> collect ideas for two weeks. At the end of two weeks, we would then
>> make the items public, and solicit more ideas for a third week. At the
>> end of the third week, we would then try to collate similar responses
>> into clusters of tangible goals. From there on, each set of goals may
>> be pursued independently, depending on its sponsors, champions,
>> supporters and participants.
>>
>> If this sounds like something that will help us move forward, I am
>> ready to set this in motion. I have already discussed this with
>> Hillary Naylor, who is an active participant in our OLPC-SF group.
>> When it's time to collate responses, I may solicit some more help from
>> some of you.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Sameer
>> --
>> Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
>> Professor, Information Systems
>> San Francisco State University
>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
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[IAEP] Sugarlabs - Goals

[Sameer Verma]

Greetings!

Here is a proposal to solicit various goals towards mission of
Sugarlabs. I am sending this out as per my comments on the recent
#sugar-meeting on IRC.

In the past, I have noticed that whenever we propose to discuss
various goals that this community may pursue, we tend to fail quite
rapidly at not arriving at a consensus. It is not that we have
incorrect ideas about how we think the project should proceed. We tend
to disagree prematurely. To remedy the situation, I am proposing that
we gather opinions from the community about goals and do so in a
manner where it remains temporarily shielded from public view. Then,
at a given time (say two weeks) we make all of these items public.
This may reveal if we have convergent ideas or if we are still very
divergent. Either is okay.

Next, we would try to merge similar items into tangible goals with a
specific time frame. Depending on who the champions are for a specific
goal and its objectives, these people may then band together into an
ad-hoc group and pursue said goals.

The time line for this project is relatively short. I propose that we
collect ideas for two weeks. At the end of two weeks, we would then
make the items public, and solicit more ideas for a third week. At the
end of the third week, we would then try to collate similar responses
into clusters of tangible goals. From there on, each set of goals may
be pursued independently, depending on its sponsors, champions,
supporters and participants.

If this sounds like something that will help us move forward, I am
ready to set this in motion. I have already discussed this with
Hillary Naylor, who is an active participant in our OLPC-SF group.
When it's time to collate responses, I may solicit some more help from
some of you.

cheers,
Sameer
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Professor, Information Systems
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] GSoC 2018

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On Jan 5, 2018 6:46 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> I made a motion at today's meeting regarding Sugar Labs participation in
> Google Summer of Code 2018. As I mentioned, Google has pushed up the
> application process: we need to get our application in by January 23. I
> think GSoC is well worth the effort and I hope we can agree to participate
> again this year.
>
> Motion: Sugar Labs will apply for Google Summer of Code 2018
>
> The motion was seconded by Adam. Samson, Adam, and I voted in favor of
> participating, but we have yet to hear from the rest of you. Please respond
> at your earliest convenience as we don't have much time to prepare our
> application.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
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Re: [IAEP] email motion 2017-19

[Sameer Verma]

I second.

+1

Sameer

On Dec 1, 2017 11:35 AM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> Motion: To appoint Claudia Urrea to the oversight-board seat that opened
> due to the resignation of Laura Vargas. This temporary appointment would
> last until the next oversight board election in 2018.
>
> This was discussed at today's oversight-board meeting [1], but since we
> lacked a quorum we could not take a vote. Hence this email. Please respond
> ASAP.
>
> The gist of the discussion was:
>
>  #topic replacing Laura on the board
>  Laura Vargas has resigned her seat on the board. I think we
> should fill the vacancy with a temporary appointment.
>  Her seat was up in fall 2018.
>  So it would be a 9-10 month appointment.
>  I propose Claudia Urrea
>  for several reasons:
>  (1) she got the most votes in the last election (missing a
> seat on the board by just one vote)
>  (2) she is very experienced with Sugar and our target
> audience
>  (3) she brings academic and education experience to the mix
>  (4) she is a thoughtful, long-term contributor to the
> community
>  (5) and she is a very respectful colleague
>
> Her state of objects from the last election can be found at [2].
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> [1] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/
> 2017-12-01T19:05:26
> [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2017-
> 2019-candidates#Claudia_Urrea
>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Technical Service Request - Project: Sugar Network

[Sameer Verma]

gt;>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:24 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <walter.ben...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This document helps clarify what work needs to be done.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> not clear to me is why this is work that needs to be
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> funded as
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> opposed to
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> being done by volunteers.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Laura Vargas <
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> la...@somosazucar.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As per SLOB's request in yesterday's meeting, I'm
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> attaching the
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sugar Network urgent maintenance project proposal.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope this documents covers all the information required
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOB's to make a decision.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards from the Peruvian Amazon forest,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-02 23:58 GMT-05:00 Laura Vargas
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <la...@somosazucar.org>:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Community members, Oversight Board Members and Free
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Software Conservancy Staff,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to add the following request to the
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> April's Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Our dear *Sugar Network is in #urgent need of
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance*.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Due the the recurrent *spam attacks *we have had during
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> previous months, and due to the fact that we are serving
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a large
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> group of
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> active users during the local school year, I'm hereby
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> requesting
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> funds to
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> perform the following technical services:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -  The addition of a "Captcha" identifier for the 3 main
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> forms.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -  Clean the Spam comments
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Active users this could help: +40,000
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Name of who is actually doing the work: Luis Sebastian
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Silva,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura Victoria Vargas
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Funds required:  USD $500
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I openly declare the existence of conflict of interest
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> associated with any funding request presented by me
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and/or my
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> husband as
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> long as I continue serving as a Sugar Labs Oversight
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Board
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> member.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Notwithstanding the above, I understand Conservancy
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> acknowledges
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that many PLC (Project Leadership Committee) Persons are
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> technical service
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> contractors and therefore it would be doable for the
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oversight
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Board to approve the required funds.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Software Freedom Conservancy Conflict
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Interest Policy, a conflicted PLC Person must abstain
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> from and
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> must not
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hear nor read the pre-vote discussions of the matter.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore* I will not vote nor participate in any
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> pre-vote
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of this matter.*
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings and thanks in advance!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 1: Artwork shared at Sugar Network - English
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Class
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Prof. Hilda
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 2: Official Conflict of Interest Policy of
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Conservancy
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 3: Spam Comments on Sugar Network
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>> Laura V.
>>>>>>> >>>>> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>>>> >>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> ___
>>>>>>> >>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>>>> >>>>> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>> >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> ___
>>>>>>> >>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>>>> >>>> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>> >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>> >> Laura V.
>>>>>>> >> * I SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>>>>>> >> ~ Laura Victoria
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Happy Learning!
>>>>>>> >> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
>>>>>>> >> #LearningByDoing
>>>>>>> >> #Projects4good
>>>>>>> >> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> ___
>>>>>>> >> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>>>> >> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > Walter Bender
>>>>>>> > Sugar Labs
>>>>>>> > http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>> > <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>>> I SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>>>>> ~ Laura Victoria
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>>> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
>>>>>> #LearningByDoing
>>>>>> #Projects4good
>>>>>> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
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>>>>>> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> I SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>
>>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>> ~ L. Victoria
>>>
>>> Happy Learning!
>>> #LearningByDoing
>>> #Projects4good
>>> #IDesignATSugarLabs
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>
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>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] motion to approve travel advance

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On Sep 20, 2017 8:29 AM, "Laura Vargas" <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote:

> +1
>
> I just want to make sure Samson is not going to be under unnecessary
> stress or risks just because of "saving money" in his itinerary.
>
>
> Regards and blessings
>
> Laura V
>
> 2017-09-20 10:15 GMT-05:00 Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org>:
>
>> Attention SFConservancy, Bradley Kuhn & Martin Michlmayr,
>>
>> +1 (my vote) means this will be approved with 4 (or more) of 7 votes
>> Sugar Labs Oversight Board -- please proceed to assist Samson's travel
>> planning as described below, Thanks!
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <
>> igna...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here.
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Please enjoy and make us proud :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ‌
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll second the motion.
>>>>
>>>> Sameer
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.ben...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alas, we have made no headway on my email regarding our travel advance
>>>>> policy [1], but we have an important decision to make as soon as possible
>>>>> [2].
>>>>>
>>>>> As you know, we are hoping to send three representatives from Sugar
>>>>> Labs to the Google Summer of Code summit. Google has in fact allocated
>>>>> $3300 towards travel for this purpose (See [3] below). The plan of record
>>>>> was to send Cristina Del Puerto, who will be traveling from San Francisco,
>>>>> essentially at no cost, Samson Goddy, who will be traveling from Nigeria,
>>>>> and Michaël Ohayon, who will be traveling from France.
>>>>>
>>>>> Samson has requested that the SFC prepurchase a ticket for him, as
>>>>> detailed in [2]. He has also accrued several hundred US dollars in 
>>>>> expenses
>>>>> in obtaining his visa, which was money lent to him by community members
>>>>> when the SLOB denied his request for a travel advance. He is also asking
>>>>> for a cash advance of US $550 to cover local transportation needs in
>>>>> Nigeria and the States [4]. It is likely that the total cost of his and
>>>>> Michaël's travel will exceed the Google budget by some hundreds of
>>>>> dollars. That said, I think it is a worthwhile investment in two dedicated
>>>>> community members. So...
>>>>>
>>>>> Motion: Approve a travel advance for US $2550 (US $2000 SFC
>>>>> prepurchase of an airline ticket and $550 towards local transport) for
>>>>> Samson Goddy's travel to the Google Summer of Code mentor's summit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your timely response to this motion much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> -walter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2017-September/020168.html
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] SLOBs,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you probably know, Google provides a donation of $2,700 which they
>>>>> suggest
>>>>> projects use for travel for mentors and students, ideally for the
>>>>> Mentor
>>>>> Summit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Samson has asked us to book his flight.  It seems it will probably cost
>>>>> around $1,800, but I'm sorting out details with Samson now based on
>>>>> his email
>>>>> in a private thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask that Adam Holt, as Representative to Conservancy from SLOBs,
>>>>> please
>>>>> communicate immediate approval for up to $2,000 for booking Samson's
>>>>> flight
>>>>> (prices may change by the time you send that approve, so extra budget
>>>>> room
>>>>> is a good idea).
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that the budget constraint by Conservancy's travel policy in this
>>>>> case
>>>>> is US$2,748.54 for this particular travel, but the Google funding
>>>>> means we
>>>>> do need to get approval from you, since likely the combined travel for
>>>>> GSoC
>>>>> -- which includes Samson Goddy, Michaël 

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] motion to approve travel advance

[Sameer Verma]

I'll second the motion.

Sameer

On Sep 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> Alas, we have made no headway on my email regarding our travel advance
> policy [1], but we have an important decision to make as soon as possible
> [2].
>
> As you know, we are hoping to send three representatives from Sugar Labs
> to the Google Summer of Code summit. Google has in fact allocated $3300
> towards travel for this purpose (See [3] below). The plan of record was to
> send Cristina Del Puerto, who will be traveling from San Francisco,
> essentially at no cost, Samson Goddy, who will be traveling from Nigeria,
> and Michaël Ohayon, who will be traveling from France.
>
> Samson has requested that the SFC prepurchase a ticket for him, as
> detailed in [2]. He has also accrued several hundred US dollars in expenses
> in obtaining his visa, which was money lent to him by community members
> when the SLOB denied his request for a travel advance. He is also asking
> for a cash advance of US $550 to cover local transportation needs in
> Nigeria and the States [4]. It is likely that the total cost of his and
> Michaël's travel will exceed the Google budget by some hundreds of
> dollars. That said, I think it is a worthwhile investment in two dedicated
> community members. So...
>
> Motion: Approve a travel advance for US $2550 (US $2000 SFC prepurchase of
> an airline ticket and $550 towards local transport) for Samson Goddy's
> travel to the Google Summer of Code mentor's summit.
>
> Your timely response to this motion much appreciated.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2017-September/020168.html
>
> [2] SLOBs,
>
> As you probably know, Google provides a donation of $2,700 which they
> suggest
> projects use for travel for mentors and students, ideally for the Mentor
> Summit.
>
> Samson has asked us to book his flight.  It seems it will probably cost
> around $1,800, but I'm sorting out details with Samson now based on his
> email
> in a private thread.
>
> I ask that Adam Holt, as Representative to Conservancy from SLOBs, please
> communicate immediate approval for up to $2,000 for booking Samson's flight
> (prices may change by the time you send that approve, so extra budget room
> is a good idea).
>
> Note that the budget constraint by Conservancy's travel policy in this case
> is US$2,748.54 for this particular travel, but the Google funding means we
> do need to get approval from you, since likely the combined travel for GSoC
> -- which includes Samson Goddy, Michaël Ohayon, and Cristina Del Puerto --
> will likely, in combination, go above the $2,700 donation for this purpose
> from Google.  Others have not sent their travel details so we don't know
> their travel costs -- if you want to set capped budgets for them as well,
> please do that immediately too.
>
> I recommend approval for all this travel -- provided that it follows
> Conservancy's main travel policy -- given the large amount of funds Sugar
> Labs has at its disposal already, but it's of course your decision.
>
> Martin Michlmayr
>
> [3] Hi GSoC Org Admins --
> As a thank you for your participation in GCI this year we want to give you
> 3 slots for mentors to send to the GSoC Mentor Summit (instead of the
> normal 2).
>
> We will add an additional $1100 to your GSoC mentor travel stipend payment
> (for a total of $3300 for the mentor travel stipends). Feel free to have
> the third person sign up for the Mentor Summit registration before
> September 5th, the sooner the better so we can get more folks off of the
> wait list early.
>
> We will of course pay for the 3rd person's room for Friday and Saturday
> nights as well so be sure they sign up for their hotel room at either the
> Sunnyvale Sheraton Hotel  or Aloft Santa Clara Hotel before September 5th.
>
> It would be great if you sent a mentor that was a mentor for both programs
> as your third person. The person does need to be at least 18 years old.
>
> If you have any questions please let us know.
>
> Best,
>
> Stephanie and Mary
>
> [4] Sure and $550 for travel advance I will be in Lagos for almost 7
> hours and London for 6 hrs, transportation and taxes in Both airport in
> Nigeria and America. I wanted to fly from Port Harcourt direct to SFO but
> it will cost additional $1500 to the flight money which i think people in
> the board might argue on.. So i decided to use Lagos instead of Port
> Harcourt to save $1.5k, though more stressful but less money spent
>
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Re: [IAEP] The Father Of Mobile Computing Is Not Impressed

[Sameer Verma]

Good read. Thx.

Sameer

On Sep 17, 2017 1:42 PM, "Dave Crossland"  wrote:

> https://www.fastcompany.com/40435064/what-alan-kay-thinks-
> about-the-iphone-and-technology-now
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Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF meeting postponed

[Sameer Verma]

Our September meeting will be tomorrow, Sept 16 in room 607 at the SFSU
Downtown Center.

835 Market St.
San Francisco CA 94103
10am to 1 pm

Sameer

On Sep 8, 2017 8:49 PM, "Andreas Gros"  wrote:

> Great! Looking forward to it
> Andi
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 12:20 AM Aaron Borden  wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> There's been some trouble booking a space for our monthly meeting. We're
>> going to push it back to next week. We're hoping to do more of a working
>> session for this month's meeting. I'll send out more details once we have
>> them.
>>
>>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon

[Sameer Verma]

Hi Caryl,

Free and open source software projects allow for forking by design as a way
out of major disagreements. However if this disagreement is due to an
intellectual property issue (as it appears to be in the current
discussion), it is best handled by our legal counsel. Most of us are not
qualified enough to offer that judgment. I'm certainly not.

Sameer

On Sep 15, 2017 10:46 AM, "Caryl Bigenho"  wrote:

> The XO icon in modified form is used on Sugarizer. It appears elsewhere on
> other current versions of Sugar. It is a well known icon and, as such,
> carries considerable intrinsic value.
>
>
> If some people want to completely divorce themselves from all the hard
> work of their predecessors and the good will they have built up, perhaps it
> would be better for them to leave Sugar Labs entirely and strike out on
> their own.
>
>
> Caryl
>
>
> --
> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Sean DALY <
> sdaly...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 9:17 AM
> *To:* Sebastian Silva
> *Cc:* Sugar-dev Devel; Samson Goddy; OLPC para usuarios, docentes,
> voluntarios y administradores; Laura Vargas; Sugar Labs Marketing; Sugar
> Labs Oversights Board; iaep; Ignacio Rodríguez
> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon
>
> So your idea is: no trademarks at all? Do you think Sugar Labs should give
> up its trademark?
>
> Is your goal to undermine Sugar Labs and/or OLPC?
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Sebastian Silva <
> sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote:
>
>> On 15/09/17 10:59, Sean DALY wrote:
>> > The copyrights are licensed under the GPL, and OLPC's trademark has a
>> > long history of use in Sugar with OLPC's cooperation - a formal
>> > license may be superfluous (a determination which can only be made by
>> > a lawyer). The artwork file itself is GPL'd. So this is just an
>> > underhanded way to bypass the community (and the SLOBs) and impose a
>> > change.
>> You are not reading carefully. Perhaps Sugar Labs has permission. Do
>> downstream distributors? Do downstream service providers? Do OLPC
>> competitors?
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
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[IAEP] Candidacy for Sugarlabs Oversight Board 2017-2019.

[Sameer Verma]

Greetings!

I have announced my candidacy for a position on the Sugarlabs
Oversight Board (SLOB) for 2017-19

https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2017-2019-candidates#Sameer_Verma

You have until 27 September 2017 to register as a member in order to
vote in the election. Check to see if you are on the list.
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:SL_Member_List_verified_2017.ods

If you would like to register to become a member, those instructions
are at: https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members

best,
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On Sep 15, 2017 7:15 AM, "Samson Goddy"  wrote:

>
>
> On Sep 15, 2017 3:12 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:
>
> The discussion regarding the status of the xo-computer icon seems to be
> going around  in circles. In my opinion, this makes it even more imperative
> that the Sugar Labs oversight board respond to Tony's questions so that
> Tony can proceed with his investigation in to our options.
>
> To state the obvious, this discussion is not about whether or not we can
> change the xo-computer icon -- we can do that at any time in consultation
> with our design team. The discussion is about whether or not we make that
> decision on our own terms or be forced into a change.
>
> Motion: To answer the questions posed by the SFC regarding the xo-computer
> icon as follows:
> (Q1) Why is the XO logo included in the sugar-artwork repo now -- and does
> the SLOBs want to keep it there?
> (A1) The xo-computer icon has been part of Sugar since we first designed
> and built Sugar (beginning in 2006) and we would like to keep it there
> until such time as the design team decides there is a reason to change it.
> (Q2) Assuming the SLOBs want to keep the XO logo in sugar-artwork: what
> outcome would the SLOBs *prefer* to see happen?  E.g.,
> - Does Sugar want downstream users to be able to redistribute and modify
> Sugar's codebase with or without the XO trademark file included in the
> program?
> - Does the SLOBs want downstream users to be able to modify and
> redistribute the XO trademark image itself, or is that less important to
> Sugar?
> (A2) Sugar Artwork, including the xo-computer icon, is currently licensed
> under the GPL and we would like our downstream users to be able to use all
> of our artwork under the terms of that license. As far as the use of any
> trademark image outside of the context of Sugar, we have no opinion.
>
> I'd appreciate if someone would second this motion and, if it passes, the
> results be reported to Tony by Adam, our SFC liaison. Of course, if the
> motion does not pass, we will need to continue the discussion.
>
> I second the motion.
>
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Walter Bender 
> Date: Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:48 PM
> Subject: [SLOB] xo-computer icon
> To: SLOBs 
> Cc: Sugar-dev Devel 
>
>
> As probably most of you are aware, yesterday one of our community members
> unilaterally changed the xo-computer icon in sugar-artwork. The ensuing
> discussion about the change is in the github pull request, "Urgent fix
> logos", [1]
>
> The gist of his concern is that OLPC has a trademark on the XO artwork [2]
> and there was concern that we were infringing and consequently downstream
> users would also be infringing.
>
> As Sean Daly points out, this is not the first time that the topic has
> come up [3, 4]. "In the past, OLPC was amenable to the use of the xo logo
> in Sugar, but asked we not use it in marketing materials without a formal
> co-branding licensing agreement."
>
> Personally, I think that OLPC was explicit in making the Sugar artwork
> available under a GPL licence and that this is hence moot. But I am not
> qualified to make that assessment. Consequently, I asked Adam Holt, our SFC
> liaison, to raise the issue with the legal team. Tony asked us to consider
> the following questions:
>
> 1) Why is the XO logo included in the sugar-artwork repo now -- and does
> the SLOBs want to keep it there?
> 2) Assuming the SLOBs want to keep the XO logo in sugar-artwork:  what
> outcome would the SLOBs *prefer* to see happen?  E.g.,
> - Does Sugar want downstream users to be able to redistribute and modify
> Sugar's codebase with or without the XO trademark file included in the
> program?
> - Does the SLOBs want downstream users to be able to modify and
> redistribute the XO trademark image itself, or is that less important to
> Sugar?
>
> The answer to the first part of Tony's first question is that the XO logo
> was part of Sugar from the very beginning -- before Sugar Labs was split
> from OLPC. We've never changed it.
>
> Regarding the second part: does the SLOBs want to keep it there?  is
> something we  need to discuss. Personally, I think it serves its purpose
> well -- a childcentric interface and it is "iconic" of Sugar. I see no
> reason to change it.
>
> Regarding Tony's second question, I would want downstream users to have as
> much freedom as possible: to use or not use the XO icon as they choose.
> However, I don't see the need to expand beyond the context of Sugar. If
> someone downstream wants to use the artwork for some other purpose, that is
> not our issue (although I that the GPL license would be the relevant
> determinant.)
>
> What do others think?
>
> Note, I think we should defer the discussion of what we would use as
> replacement artwork until we resolve the current issue.

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] Motion: To apply to GCI 2017.

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On Sep 14, 2017 8:36 AM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:50 AM, Lionel Laské 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>  Lionel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:13 AM +0200, "Samson Goddy" <
>> samsongo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2017 3:37 AM, "Laura Vargas"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello SLOBs,
>>>
>>> Walter has mentioned we as SLOB's should decide whether or not Sugar
>>> Labs will participate in GCI 2017.
>>>
>>> I was a Code In mentor back in 2013 and I remember it was a nice
>>> experience with a lot of work but rewarded to see Ignacio winning :D
>>>
>>> So, I think we should keep supporting this program.
>>>
>>> Motion: Sugar Labs to participate on GCI 2017.
>>>
>>> Any second?
>>>
>>> I Second the motion, it is important we participate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Urgent Motion: To add three contributors into the membership/election committee

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On Sep 6, 2017 2:43 PM, "Ignacio Rodríguez"  wrote:

> It's +1 from me.
>
> But I will leave SLOBs once this happen, I honestly don't have time, and I
> no longer feel motivated to be part of the SLOBs.
> I will remain as a Sugar Labs, and will mantain some systems if required.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Thanks all for updating https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/
>> Sugar_Labs/Governance/Committees#Membership_and_Elections_Committee if
>> this is approved -- with personal background on all Membership/Elections
>> Committee members -- so we can better avoid conflict-of-interest
>> accusations/patterns of late, moving on to far more positive+uplifting
>> efforts soon!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Walter Bender 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would think membership on the committee would be a unilateral decision
>>> by the committee itself. In any case, +1 from me.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Samson Goddy 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 I am requesting to SLOB. To add Pericherla Seetaramaraju  (Google
 Summer of Code Intern), Hirish Patel (Contributor and Google Summer of Code
 Mentor)
 and Ibiam Chihurumnaya (Member of Sugar Labs). I mentioned at the
 meeting that we need more members in the Membership/Election committee.


 I will appreciate if someone second this motion for voting.



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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

[Sameer Verma]

Couldn't make it. Meeting conflict at work.

Sameer

On Aug 31, 2017 5:22 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> We have a meeting on Friday, 1 September at 19UTC. Please join us in
> irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting. Note that one option to connect is via
> chat.sugarlabs.org in your web browser.
>
> Among other topics of discussion:
> * Summary of GSoC/Outreachy
> * SLOB election
> * Google Code-in
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] URGENT action needed

[Sameer Verma]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Laura Vargas  wrote:
>
>
> 2017-08-11 9:23 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Laura Vargas 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-08-11 8:54 GMT-05:00 Avni Khatri :



 On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Samuel Cantero 
 wrote:
>
> mind-boggling indeed. SL has been in GSoC and GCI for years. I'm not a
> board member but +1 for sure.
>

 +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Avni,
>>>
>>> I agree with you it should be clearly defined who in Sugar Labs is
>>> responsible for Google's collections.
>>>
>>> Resources in Sugar Labs are limited and historically we had lost a lot of
>>> opportunities because uncollected grant, please research on Trip Advisor's
>>> case when lack of clear responsibility for collection let to an unbelievable
>>> lack of collection of US$40.000 for internationalization's projects.
>>>
>>> Responsibility isn't clear at this point.
>>>
>>> About the Financial Manager role, it was created by the Board on July's
>>> decisions last year, still they never appointed anyone for the role.
>>>
>>> In the meanwhile, Adam has continue serving as the representative for
>>> Sugar Labs with the Software Freedom Conservancy since last period. Still,
>>> this role doesn't account for any financial responsibility according to
>>> current Governance.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry we still don't have a wiki page that would easily resolve any
>>> financial question to the community. It is a tendency I'm hoping to revert
>>> by proposing the Motion 2017-08-10: Sugar Labs Financial Manager to have a
>>> monthly compensation.
>>>
>>>
>> First i see no reason for this decision, after the comments from walter's
>> and i quote.
>>
>> "Google has been consistently paying us for almost 10 years. The fact that
>> we have not yet seen the $7000 from GCI is an SFC interface issue."
>>
>> Sugar Labs not receiving $7k from GCI was a problem from SFC. This
>> discussion is unhealthy for this motion because it serves as a distraction.
>
>
>
> Samson,
>
> On the contrary I would have no problem to vote +1 on this motion if we had
> already a clearly defined and fairly compensated Financial Manager
> responsible for the numbers (this includes tracking collections and
> payments) on our quarterly reports.

The two motions are separate. Let's keep those that way.

Sameer

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Re: [IAEP] Motion 2017-08-10: Sugar Labs Financial Manager to have a monthly compensation

[Sameer Verma]

-1.

This is a knee jerk reaction to a symptom. I'm not sure how it will solve
any ongoing issues effectively.

Sameer

On Aug 10, 2017 8:35 AM, "Laura Vargas"  wrote:

>
> Hi SLOB's and members all,
>
> I think we should learn from experience and start compensating doing all
> this work for Sugar Lab's Organization [keeping track of communications and
> transactions with the Software Freedom Conservancy].
>
>
> Motion: *Sugar Labs Financial Manager will have a monthly compensation of
> US$ TBD* in exchange for:
> 1 complete financial report per quarter and it's publication on the Sugar
> Labs Finance Wiki page maximum 30 calendar days after the end of the
> period. The format to be used should be compatible with the International
> Financial Reporting Standards* or it's equivalent in the U.S..
>
> *see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Financial_
> Reporting_Standards
>
>
> To approve the proposed motion simplifies the July, 2016 SLOB's
> motion/decision ,
> assigns a monthly compensation for the Financial Manager and above all, 
> *assures
> community has timely access to reports*.
>
>
> I hope another SLOB can second the motion in order to start voting.
> Suggestions to define the value are also welcome from all, specially from
> Adam :D
>
> Below I pasted some extracts from background emailing about the subject in
> case anyone interested in reading.
>
>
> Regards and blessings,
>
> Laura V
>
>
> 2017-08-05 19:31 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>
>> Hi All...
>>
>>
>> There was (and still seems to be) a lot of confusion regarding the topic
>> of a treasurer's report. I think the main problem is that most of you are
>> thinking of the SugarLabs "Books" (a big ledger will all the personal
>> identifying information Adam was referring to) instead of a simple
>> "Treasurers  Report" which just includes the pertinent information without
>> all the identifying details. The former, the "books," should be available
>> to the SLOBs on request on a view only basis as mentioned elsewhere in this
>> thread. The latter, the Treasurer's Report, should be available to all
>> Sugar Labs members and other interested parties as appropriate.
>>
>>
>> Maybe it is all the years I have spent in many types of organizations
>> (4H, Girl Scouts, homeowner's organizations, teacher's orgs, Sierra Club
>> groups, etc.) that make this seem very familiar, simple, and
>> straightforward. Hopefully the information below can help make it work well
>> for Sugar Labs as well.
>>
>>
>> A quick Google search turns up this list of criteria for a simple monthly
>> treasurer's report. It says it should include:
>>
>>1. the name of the organization.
>>2. the period which the report covers.
>>3. the cash balance at the beginning of the period.
>>4. the income received during the period (with sources)
>>5. the expenses paid during the period (with what it was for and who
>>was paid ... name only, no PII).
>>6. the cash balance at the end of the period.
>>7. the signature of the treasurer.
>>
>> Another easy to follow resource is this description of how to put such a
>> report together: https://www.energizeinc.com/art/treasurers-report
>>
>> (Note: the sample they refer to in this is missing... you have to buy the
>> book to see it!).
>>
>>
>> Yesterday's financial report was very confusing and seeing Adam's email
>> just seemed to make it worse. Maybe going forward we can simplify and we
>> all will know what is happening. Oh, and by the way, there is no need to
>> make the Income negative and the Expenses positive. This is for us, not the
>> SFC.
>>
>>
>> Caryl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Tony
>> Anderson 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:07:55 AM
>> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs
>> *Subject:* [IAEP] Meeting August 4, 2017
>>
>>
>> I am amazed at the discussion on finance.
>>
>> The governing bylaw is at https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/
>> Oversight_Board/Decisions July 1, 2016.
>> Oversight Board/Decisions - Sugar Labs
>> 
>> wiki.sugarlabs.org
>> This page (largely complete) is intended to be a one-stop place for
>> reviewing all of the Sugar Labs oversight board (SLOB) actions and
>> decisions.
>>
>> Our Finance Manager is Adam Holt. He must authorize every petty cash
>> transaction (<$200) and the board must approve all other transactions.
>>
>> I am sure that in a given quarter, the number of approved transactions is
>> less than a dozen.
>>
>> The quarterly report is the starting balance, transactions reporting
>> receipts, transactions reporting expenses, and an ending balance.
>>
>> I suspect all of this could be could be recorded on fewer than a dozen 80
>> column punched cards. (About 10-6 GB).
>>
>> Tony
>>
>
> #WeCanDoBetter
>
> 

Re: [IAEP] URGENT action needed

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On Aug 10, 2017 4:44 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> I presume we need a motion and a vote on this. Time is of the essence, so
> please respond ASAP.
>
> Motion: Samson Goddy has been selected as a Sugar Labs representative to
> the Google Summer of Code mentor summit. He has requested a travel advance
> to cover the costs of his visa application. The advance, including wire
> fees comes to $US 627.05. This motion is to approve the travel advance. (As
> additional background, Google will be covering up to $2200 in travel
> expenses for two representatives to attend the summit. Since our other
> representative is local to the SF area, the bulk of that money would be
> available to cover Samson's travel, so the net impact on SL funds will be
> negligible.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Accounting at Software Freedom Conservancy <
> account...@sfconservancy.org>
> Date: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:16 PM
> Subject: URGENT request for Sugar Labs to approve of US$627.05 advance for
> Goddy for GSoC Mentor Summit (was: Is Goddy actually requesting $160 ?)
> To: su...@sfconservancy.org
> Cc: Martin Michlmayr , Samson Goddy <
> samsongo...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Sugar Labs PLC,  please urgently page down to the all caps section below.
>
> Samson,
>
> Samson Goddy wrote at 08:52 (EDT) on Wednesday:
> > it has been 5 days, i already made request to su...@sfconservancy.org
> for
> > funding. Since it takes up to 15 working days(3 weeks) for the embassy to
> > accept appointment for interview.
> >
> > I haven't heard anything from both parties.
>
> Unfortunately, We are waiting for someone from Sugar Labs to reply to
> approve the expense.  I don't know why they haven't replied.
>
> SUGAR LABS PLC: By my calculation, Samson is asking for this:
>
>   FOR TRAVEL TO GET A VISA, AND FOR THE VISA FEES ITSELF, SAMSON GODDY ASKS
>   FOR A CASH ADVANCE OF TRAVEL EXPENSES (TO COME TO GSOC MENTOR SUMMIT
>   2017).  The totals are as follows:
>
>   If we use western union, N202,350 = $570 (rate set by WU)
>
>   If we use wire, he's asking for 561+(561*.05)+13+25 = US$627.05 to be
> wired.
>wire fees
>
> If Sugar Labs PLC replies with approval before Sunday night US/Eastern, we
> can likely process a payment by wire on Monday.
>
>
> We don't typically use Western Union, and it would be substantial effort
> for
> us to do that, so we'd like Sugar to approve the additional wire fees as
> it will make payment more rapid for Samson and easier for Conservancy.
>
> Samson, your request was a bit ramble-y, so if I gleaned the wrong totals
> above, please correct them.
>
> Samson, in preparation for Sugar Labs PLC hopefully approving this request,
> could you let me know if the wire instructions I used for you before are
> still correct, and if not, send me new ones?
>
> --
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>  |--> & also, de-facto Bookkeeper for the moment
> Pls support Conservancy!: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
>
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] Voting systems

[Sameer Verma]

No, just a voting system that's better than IRC or email :-)

Sameer

On Jul 7, 2017 3:07 PM, "Adam Holt" <h...@laptop.org> wrote:

> On Jul 7, 2017 6:01 PM, "Samson Goddy" <samsongo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am very sorry, i lost track of time. But i will catch up with the log.
>
>
> Ugh, me too.
>
> Are any votes required?
>
> Samson
>
> On Jul 7, 2017 10:54 PM, "Sameer Verma" <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> As per our meeting today, here's a short list of voting systems from
>> other projects. Note that in all cases in this list, the voting
>> mechanism (as implemented in software) is primarily driven by
>> governance policies:
>>
>> Apache governance: https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/
>> Apache board election: https://wiki.apache.org/general/BoardVoting
>>
>> Openstack governance: https://governance.openstack.org/
>> Openstack board election:
>> https://governance.openstack.org/election/#election-system
>>
>> Drupal governance: https://www.drupal.org/governance
>> Drupal board election:
>> https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/its-time-to-vote-com
>> munity-elections
>>
>> Also note that voting on motions as proposed by SLOB members is a
>> different use case than voting on SLOB candidacies, even if the
>> software used to implement the process is the same.
>>
>> Here are some related systems that are used for voting.
>>
>> Concordet Voting: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/
>> Helios: https://heliosvoting.org/
>> E-Vote: https://github.com/mdipierro/evote
>> OpaVote: https://www.opavote.com/
>>
>> cheers,
>> Sameer
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[IAEP] Voting systems

[Sameer Verma]

As per our meeting today, here's a short list of voting systems from
other projects. Note that in all cases in this list, the voting
mechanism (as implemented in software) is primarily driven by
governance policies:

Apache governance: https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/
Apache board election: https://wiki.apache.org/general/BoardVoting

Openstack governance: https://governance.openstack.org/
Openstack board election:
https://governance.openstack.org/election/#election-system

Drupal governance: https://www.drupal.org/governance
Drupal board election:
https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/its-time-to-vote-community-elections

Also note that voting on motions as proposed by SLOB members is a
different use case than voting on SLOB candidacies, even if the
software used to implement the process is the same.

Here are some related systems that are used for voting.

Concordet Voting: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/
Helios: https://heliosvoting.org/
E-Vote: https://github.com/mdipierro/evote
OpaVote: https://www.opavote.com/

cheers,
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF June meeting third Saturday

[Sameer Verma]

The Ethiopia Report is live at https//youtu.be/dtU6jBg3OUM

Sameer
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On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Aaron Borden <adbor...@live.com> wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday, June
> 17th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market Street,
> 5th floor, room 597 (fishbowl). This is not our usual second Saturday,
> for June we are meeting the **third** weekend of the month.
>
> Agenda
> - Meet and greet
> - Project updates
> - Project working time
>
> Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
> welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
> latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
> projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
> play around with, too.
>
> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/1887033488215025/
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] MOTION: French visa for Samson Goddy to attend 10-year Anniversary Scratch Conf / 50-year Anniversary of Logo

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2017 7:59 AM, "Adam Holt" <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
>
> Lionel, Sameer, Laura & Ignacio,
>
> Can you please try to vote yes or no
>
>
> Or please formally abstain, but do vote your opinion please!
>
> (As you we're elected to do, setting a tone for forward action — in whatever
> direction your conscience takes you — Thanks All!)
>
>
> today
>
> as Samson would need to fly to Lagos immediately this wkd (or Monday latest,
> to get everything in motion) so does need to know what's happening ASAP as
> the wkd approaches, Thanks All for your consideration!
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2017 3:28 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will take sole responsibility for the lost and if it happen, i didn't
>>>> get the visa.
>>>
>>>
>>> My apologies I misunderstood earlier, among the many emails.  That makes
>>> things very clear, thank you Samson.  Be it then resolved:
>>>
>>> "To support Samson Goddy's attending 2017 Scratch conference in Bordeaux,
>>> France (19-21 July 2017) to strengthen our relationship with Scratch, Sugar
>>> Labs should allocate up to $500 in support of his obtaining a French visa,
>>> including (as nec) travel from Port Harcourt to Lagos for as many days as
>>> required.  Any receipts to this end, Samson will submit to the Software
>>> Freedom Conservancy.  It is understood that if the French government very
>>> unfortunately turns down his visa application, preventing him from attending
>>> Bordeaux, these lost funds will be borne by Samson Goddy."
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance to any board members who can second this motion,
>>> thereby helping Samson/Scratch/Sugar move forward!
>>>
>>> ___
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>>>
>>
>> While I think it is unconscionable for Sugar Labs not to shoulder the
>> responsibility of the visa on behalf of one of our members, I will
>> nonetheless second the motion, bad precedent and all, as it seems to be the
>> only way to get unstuck.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>
>



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Re: [IAEP] [XSCE] Video: Internet-in-a-Box in the Dominican Republic

[Sameer Verma]

Excellent! Thx for introducing the project to the folks at Columbia.

Sameer

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
> Fantastic video, even if I wish they/d credited "Internet-in-a-Box" (all of
> us, and our OLPC/Sugar origins) rather than crediting me!  I did not know
> this video was coming.  I've asked Columbia Univ folks(*) to more properly
> credit Internet-in-a-Box in future :)
>
>https://youtu.be/xI3Ed008Mxo
>
> (*) under the leadership of Columbia School of Journalism Professor Anne
> Nelson, whose grad student team did all the hard work in the Dominican
> Republic this spring.  Very honest mistake on their part, as our
> http://internet-in-a-Box.org and http://schoolserver.org web sites are
> indeed stale.
>
> Finally if you too are inspired by what rural health workers are doing for
> Haitians' rights-to-survive in the Dominican Republic, and want to build
> your very own digital library- please do read this important article at
> OpenSource.com (also just published) and feel free to ask us @
> http://iiab.io what you need to make it happen:
>
>How to create an Internet-in-a-Box on a Raspberry Pi
>Learn about this inexpensive device for students with restricted internet
>access and people in remote areas of the world not served by broadband.
>https://opensource.com/article/17/5/internet-in-a-box-raspberry-pi
>
> PS developing world hackers & offline content gurus please write me if you
> want to attend our larger http://OFF.NETWORK Wikipedia/OpenStreetMap
> Hackathon in August for hard-core implementers, --taking "meducational"
> humanitarian open content to the next level -- for schools, clinics,
> libraries truly everywhere.  Yes that means heading further into the hills
> than 5G Helicopter Celebrities, beyond even SUNY Potsdam where our hackathon
> will be held ;)  FYI our "Kiwix + Internet-in-Box + Offliners All" hackathon
> will be held in conjunction and right after Wikipedia's own annual community
> powwow in Montreal (https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org) co-located right in
> the same city with DebConf17 (https://debconf17.debconf.org).  Thanks in
> advance to open-access librarians / factivist developers all for getting in
> touch towards joining us from different corners of the globe!!
>
> "Always do right, this will gratify some people and astonish the rest."
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

[Sameer Verma]

+1

Sameer

On May 19, 2017 9:01 AM, "Walter Bender" <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> I second.
>>
>> Sameer
>>
>> On May 19, 2017 5:50 AM, "Walter Bender" <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps someone can second the motion so we can begin voting?
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you all for the positive comments. But i am little sad that since
>>> wednesday, only one vote has been made. Where we have 7 SLOBs member in
>>> this community. I am pleading to other SLOBs member to come and vote, so
>>> that i and Ibiam can have idea what to do next if this motion passes or
>>> not. Because if this motion pass, we will have to wait for SFC 30 days
>>> policy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Samson Goddy
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <
>>> igna...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> It's +1 from me :)
>>>> I've seen some pictures on Facebok and I love what you both are doing,
>>>> awesome work, Samson and Ibiam.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ignacio.-
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Avni Khatri <a...@kidsoncomputers.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Same. Not a member of SLOB but agree it's a well written proposal. +1
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 17, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a well thought out proposal for a worthy project. I am not a
>>>>> member of the SLOB so I can't vote. But I do hope it is approved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Caryl
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 17, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Samson and Ibiam are seeking funds to cover part of the cost to attend
>>>>> the Scratch Conference in Bordeaux France in July to promote Sugar. The
>>>>> detailed proposal is here [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Motion: Sugar Labs agrees to cover up to US$2800 for expenses related
>>>>> to traveling to the Scratch2017BDX, 17th to 22nd of July, 2017 for Samson
>>>>> Goddy and Ibiam Chihurumnaya.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/152VDfUcdcGOHOFBLT3lG
>>>>> 15sUFpzBeuBCGiNAGCSOLj4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> -walter
>>>>> --
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

[Sameer Verma]

I second.

Sameer

On May 19, 2017 5:50 AM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

Perhaps someone can second the motion so we can begin voting?

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samson Goddy 
wrote:

> Thank you all for the positive comments. But i am little sad that since
> wednesday, only one vote has been made. Where we have 7 SLOBs member in
> this community. I am pleading to other SLOBs member to come and vote, so
> that i and Ibiam can have idea what to do next if this motion passes or
> not. Because if this motion pass, we will have to wait for SFC 30 days
> policy.
>
>
> Regards
> Samson Goddy
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> It's +1 from me :)
>> I've seen some pictures on Facebok and I love what you both are doing,
>> awesome work, Samson and Ibiam.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ignacio.-
>>
>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Avni Khatri 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Same. Not a member of SLOB but agree it's a well written proposal. +1
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a well thought out proposal for a worthy project. I am not a
>>> member of the SLOB so I can't vote. But I do hope it is approved.
>>>
>>> Caryl
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Walter Bender 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Samson and Ibiam are seeking funds to cover part of the cost to attend
>>> the Scratch Conference in Bordeaux France in July to promote Sugar. The
>>> detailed proposal is here [1].
>>>
>>> Motion: Sugar Labs agrees to cover up to US$2800 for expenses related to
>>> traveling to the Scratch2017BDX, 17th to 22nd of July, 2017 for Samson
>>> Goddy and Ibiam Chihurumnaya.
>>>
>>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/152VDfUcdcGOHOFBLT3lG
>>> 15sUFpzBeuBCGiNAGCSOLj4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> -walter
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF April meeting Saturday

[Sameer Verma]

Room change. We meet in DTC 607. Sixth floor.

Sameer

On Apr 13, 2017 10:08 PM, "Aaron Borden"  wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
> April 15th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
> Street, 5th floor, room 597 (the fishbowl).
>
> Agenda
> - Meet and greet
> - Project updates
> - Project working time
>
> Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
> welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
> latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
> projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
> play around with, too.
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF March meeting: Ethiopia

[Sameer Verma]

Youtube stream should be here: http://youtube.com/-4-GpTa-pJ0

Sameer

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
> Likely on Hangouts/YouTube at YouTube.com/olpcsf
>
> I'm on the train, getting there, but will ask Aaron to confirm and post
> update.
>
> Sameer
>
> On Mar 11, 2017 8:18 AM, "Samson Goddy" <samsongo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking about the possibility too. It would be nice to see the live
>> coverage.
>>
>> On 11 Mar 2017 5:05 pm, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>>
>> Will anyone run a Facebook live video of the presentation? :)
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2017 11:46 AM, "Aaron Borden" <adbor...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
>>> March 11th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
>>> Street, 6th floor, room 609. Please RSVP[1].
>>>
>>> This month, the **new** OLPC XO-NL3 Laptop is going to Ethiopia. Come and
>>> see the new device at work. We'll have a discussion with the project
>>> lead Andres Gros of Facebook and project computer expert Sameer Verma of
>>> SFSU. Discussion will be moderated by Alex Kleider.
>>>
>>> We will have Ethiopian coffee and light snacks.
>>>
>>> Agenda
>>> - Meet and greet
>>> - Ethiopia and the new OLPC XO-NL3 Laptop
>>> - Project updates
>>> - Project working time
>>>
>>> Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
>>> welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
>>> latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
>>> projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
>>> play around with, too.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/olpc-sf-march-meeting-ethiopia-tickets-8350942895
>>>
>>>
>>> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/1812685709045722/
>>> Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/c9fkbhafqujutd4bqb1as28il70
>>>
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF March meeting: Ethiopia

[Sameer Verma]

Likely on Hangouts/YouTube at YouTube.com/olpcsf

I'm on the train, getting there, but will ask Aaron to confirm and post
update.

Sameer

On Mar 11, 2017 8:18 AM, "Samson Goddy" <samsongo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was thinking about the possibility too. It would be nice to see the live
> coverage.
>
> On 11 Mar 2017 5:05 pm, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
> Will anyone run a Facebook live video of the presentation? :)
>
> On Mar 7, 2017 11:46 AM, "Aaron Borden" <adbor...@live.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
>> March 11th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
>> Street, 6th floor, room 609. Please RSVP[1].
>>
>> This month, the **new** OLPC XO-NL3 Laptop is going to Ethiopia. Come and
>> see the new device at work. We'll have a discussion with the project
>> lead Andres Gros of Facebook and project computer expert Sameer Verma of
>> SFSU. Discussion will be moderated by Alex Kleider.
>>
>> We will have Ethiopian coffee and light snacks.
>>
>> Agenda
>> - Meet and greet
>> - Ethiopia and the new OLPC XO-NL3 Laptop
>> - Project updates
>> - Project working time
>>
>> Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
>> welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
>> latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
>> projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
>> play around with, too.
>>
>> [1] https://www.eventbrite.com/e/olpc-sf-march-meeting-ethiopia-
>> tickets-8350942895
>>
>>
>> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/1812685709045722/
>> Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/c9fkbhafqujutd4bqb1as28il70
>>
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF March meeting: Ethiopia

[Sameer Verma]

If you're planning to attend the event in person tomorrow, please RSVP on
Eventbrite as soon as possible, so that we may have a good head count.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/olpc-sf-march-meeting-
ethiopia-tickets-8350942895


Sameer

On Mar 7, 2017 8:46 AM, "Aaron Borden" <adbor...@live.com> wrote:

Hello folks,

OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
March 11th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
Street, 6th floor, room 609. Please RSVP[1].

This month, the **new** OLPC XO-NL3 Laptop is going to Ethiopia. Come and
see the new device at work. We'll have a discussion with the project
lead Andres Gros of Facebook and project computer expert Sameer Verma of
SFSU. Discussion will be moderated by Alex Kleider.

We will have Ethiopian coffee and light snacks.

Agenda
- Meet and greet
- Ethiopia and the new OLPC XO-NL3 Laptop
- Project updates
- Project working time

Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
play around with, too.

[1] https://www.eventbrite.com/e/olpc-sf-march-meeting-
ethiopia-tickets-8350942895


Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/1812685709045722/
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] ping

[Sameer Verma]

+1

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On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have anything to say regarding my Outreachy motion?
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF February meeting

[Sameer Verma]

Room change. We meet in DTC 607. Sixth floor of the same building.

Sameer

On Jan 31, 2017 11:54 PM, "Aaron D Borden"  wrote:

Hello folks,

OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
February 11th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
Street, 5th floor, Room 597 (the fishbowl).

Agenda
- Meet and greet
- Project updates
- Project working time

Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
play around with, too.

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/247889599000637/
Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/c6uoar6u2phpof1if128a1sc6tg

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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF 9th anniversary meeting this Saturday

[Sameer Verma]

Meeting room change. We've moved to 607.

Sameer

On Jan 9, 2017 8:56 AM, "Aaron D Borden"  wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
> January 14th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
> Street, 5th floor, Room 597 (the fishbowl). We will be celebrating our
> 9th anniversary with cake and snacks!
>
> Agenda
> - Meet and greet
> - Anniversary party
> - Project updates
> - Project working time
>
> Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
> welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
> latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
> projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
> play around with, too.
>
> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/402713970075815/
> Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/c92s40rngoupe3e6vl1mcn0skhk
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

[Sameer Verma]

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I checked the http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2016-12-02 log -
> sorry I couldn't make it, was in transit at that time. Sameer, sorry to hear
> about your colleague. No pressure, just looking forward to your next
> installment - when you can :)
>

Thank you. Apart from the personal loss, we've had to pick up his
classes, which has been difficult to manage along with everything
else. I do have some stuff lined up for us. My semester ends in two
weeks.

> On 2 December 2016 at 12:36, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would assume they do wish to stand for re-election.
>
> Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia, please could you reply to this email
> confirming or denying your wish to stand for reelection in 2017.
>
>>
>> The publicity on this has been terrible.
>
> Actually non-existent, because there is nothing to publicize.
>
>>
>> I don't know who is in charge,
>
> No one is in charge.

I am the SLOB rep, but would prefer a non-SLOB to chair the elections.

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>>
>> but they should have made sure they sent several reminders of deadlines to
>> file for candidacy. In fact, was there ever an announcement sent out to all
>> of the membership asking if they wish to run and giving deadlines and a
>> timeline? I didn't see even one. This has always been done in the past. It
>> looks like someone is trying to rig the election! (Sorry... but that is how
>> some of us from the US feel about elections right now!
>
> There is no election to be rigged ;)
>
> On 2 December 2016 at 18:45, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote:
>>
>> What I don't understand is why it wasn't made (or delegated) on time? this
>> should have been done in September-October and November, don't you agree?
>
>
> Well, sure - shoulda woulda coulda :)
>
> I said I would do some things, and I did not do them, and no one else has
> said anything about any of this I apologise.
>
> - I ought to have been more proactive, and said in September when all my
> time got taken with my employment that I wouldn't be able to do anything, as
> I had said I would
>
> - Each SLOB ought to have been more proactive, realised the obligation to
> run the election, and solicited a new volunteer
>
> - Anyone else active in the community could have been more proactive on this
>
> But no one was. Alas!
>
> Now, rather than focusing on who in this very small community ought to have
> done, I suggest we all focus on moving forwards and suggest what we may do
> as next steps.
>
> I am unlikely to have any real spare time from now until mid-January. I'm
> happy for anyone to ask me to do something and I'll do what I can, but
> basically I'm checked out until then.
>
> # https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRh_vgS2dFE #
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder

[Sameer Verma]

Sorry, I couldn't make it. Too many meetings, plus OLPC SF Community
Summit begins this evening.

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On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:09 AM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My apologies for not sending this out earlier. We have a Sugar Labs
> oversight board meeting today at 19UTC (15 EST) (See [1]). Please join us on
> irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting
>
> Among the discussion topics will be:
> Google Code In (See [2]).
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> [1]
> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20161104T15=43=Sugar+Labs+oversight+board+meeting1=cursive
> [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code_In_2016
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[IAEP] Why Your Open Source Project Is Not A Product

[Sameer Verma]

https://www.linux.com/blog/why-your-open-source-project-not-product

We've talked about this before. We are not alone in dealing with this
distinction of an ongoing project vs what people use in schools etc.

Sameer
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[IAEP] Sugarcamp at OLPC SF

[Sameer Verma]

We are looking to host OLPC SF community summit on Nov 4, 5 and 6 (pending
some confirmation on logistics). There was also some conversation around
hosting a sugarcamp in conjunction with the summit. Thoughts?

Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting reminder

[Sameer Verma]

Missed the meeting. Sat on the tarmac at Miami instead. There's also been
an island wide Internet outage in Jamaica, which is where I'm now. It comes
and goes. Heading back. I did get to catch up on the logs, and it looks
like I got volunteered for something :-) Will catch up in a day or so.
Traveling back to San Francisco today.

Sameer

On Sep 1, 2016 11:08 PM, "Sameer Verma" <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:

I plan to attend, but I'm traveling (flying tonight) into Miami, and there
may be flight delays due to the hurricane situation.

Sameer

On Sep 1, 2016 10:32 AM, "Walter Bender" <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We have a Sugar Labs oversight board meeting tomorrow at 19UTC [1]. Please
> join us on irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting
>
> Among other discussion topics:
>
> Report from the i18n manager;
> Discussion re Finance manager appointment;
> Election 2016 (for three SLOB positions);
> SLOB representation on the membership committee;
> Final results from GSoC;
> Turtle Art Day (Abuja, Asuncion, Montevideo)
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r14L2-Eyq2NSSPH6n79v
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Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF July meeting this Saturday

[Sameer Verma]

On Jul 11, 2016 3:48 PM, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11 July 2016 at 14:20, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> No minutes taken. Our usual note taker is out. so is the back up.
>> Plus, our meetings are more informal than most (although we do
>> document) and the process was more conversational.
>
>
> Okay cool, no worries :)
>
>>
>> The good news is
>> that we did come up with formalized vision and mission statements
>> (just posted on OLPC-SF list), and it's reassuring that 1) it's as
>> encompassing as we could imagine it to be, and 2) it states very
>> little that we didn't already know.
>
>
> Yes, it sounds great to me :) Will you also be working on the other parts
of the missions/vision chain for OLPC-SF? :)

Indeed. Will start process for Sugarlabs too, once I'm all done with my
summer teaching this week.

Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF July meeting this Saturday

[Sameer Verma]

No minutes taken. Our usual note taker is out. so is the back up.
Plus, our meetings are more informal than most (although we do
document) and the process was more conversational. The good news is
that we did come up with formalized vision and mission statements
(just posted on OLPC-SF list), and it's reassuring that 1) it's as
encompassing as we could imagine it to be, and 2) it states very
little that we didn't already know.

cheers,
Sameer

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
> On 6 July 2016 at 11:17, Aaron D Borden  wrote:
>>
>> Agenda
>> - Meet and greet
>> - Vision, mission, and goals
>> - Summit planning
>> - Project updates
>
>
> Were any minutes taken? If not, I'm curious to hear more about the
> Vision/mission/goals discussion and if the statement was adopted at the
> meeting? :)
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting reminder

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On Jun 30, 2016 3:08 AM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:
>
> We have a Sugar Labs oversight meeting on Friday, 1 July at 19:00 UTC
(See [1]). Please join us on 1rc.freenode.net #sugar-meetring
>
Typo.

#sugar-meeting

Sameer

> See [2] for the current list of agenda items.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> [1]
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160701T15=43=Sugar+Labs+oversight+board+meeting=sanserif
> [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board#Agenda_items
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Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

[Sameer Verma]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Sameer, thanks for this! Please can I repost this on the youtube channel,
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfsR9AEb7HuPRAc14jfiI6g, with a CC-BY
> license ? :)
>
>
I don't think it's very useful on the Youtube channel, as that's outward
facing. I did this primarily for our community, and to explain all that in
emails is hard, hence the screencast. I'd say leave it as webm on the wiki
for now, with annotations, as necessary.


> Here's an auto transcription:
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016/Call_2
>
>
Thanks. I think your notes (below) are a lot more useful.


> On 24 June 2016 at 18:20, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>
> 3) There are several confounding variables at play. For example, Sugar is
>> a FOSS project. Sugarlabs is an agency established to
>> foster/facilitate/support Sugar, the project. However, the two are not the
>> same. So, in our effort to establish a strategic plan, the unit of analysis
>> should be clear. For me, as a SLOB member, the unit of analysis is
>> Sugarlabs, the agency. Everything I look at, is through that lens,
>> including Sugar, OLPC, Sugarizer, etc.
>>
>> I've put together a screencast describing how all these things are
>> related. I hope this will bring some clarity.
>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/18/Sugarlabs-strategy-overview.webm
>>
>
> In the period 0m-7m, you say that that there should be 2 units of
> analysis, for Sugar Labs and for Sugar, and therefore 2 separate sets
> of Vision/Mission/Goals/etc, but these should be aligned. Is this correct?
>
>
Yes, that's what we should aim to do, but more so on the Vision and Mission
level. The Goals etc. can be different, as long as these support their
respective Vision and Mission.


>
> Then 8m-18m, you describe a 7 phase model of a firm:
>
>

5 phase chain, which includes supply and demand sides.


1. Inbound logistics (capital goods, labour)
>
> 2. Operations (production, combination of capital goods and labour to
> produce commodities; Sugar Labs )
>
> 3. Outbound Logistics (distribution, shipping, go to market; eg each sugar
> release being minted, and then a distro packaging it, or OLPC taking a
> sugar release and combining it with some distro)
>
> 4. Marketing and Sales (managing perceptions, which for a software freedom
> project is often not sales as in exchange of commodities for money, but
> instead the success of propaganda at converting neutral people to advocates
> who agree with the ideology)
>
> 5. Service (Consulting, eg the process of working with schools to realise
> the value created in earlier stages which may be obvious to us but not to
> them.)
>
> You then group phases 1-3 as 'supply side' and 4-5 as 'demand side,' and
> note that traditionally OLPC has taken care of the demand side while Sugar
> Labs has taken care of the supply side; and note that such partitioning of
> supply/demand often creates conflict in free software projects which have
> more appreciation for the left side than for the right side; and note that
> the demand side needs attention as it increases the value of the software
> created.
>
>
Correct.


> This all seems sage to me :) Did I miss any essential point?
>
>
>
Note: In attempting to increase the value of Sugar by focusing on
Marketing, Sales and Service, we have to at least maintain status quo on
the left side. Unless we have production of a stable code base, the demand
side cannot leverage it.


> Then 18m-31m you describe a 5 phase model of strategy:
>
> 1. Vision (long term) 'dream statement' of where we dream to be in a few
> years - the world we hope to arrive into, the big picture we are moving
> towards.
>
> 2. Mission (long term) what are we, what do we do, why do we do it - this
> should hold good for the same amount of time as the Vision; what exists
> today, that powers us to move towards the Vision
>
> 3. Goals (mid term) expected outcomes that are not measurable, eg
> "Increase adoption of Sugar by non-English-native-speaking children". These
> typically arise from a SWOT analysis.
>
> 4. Objectives (mid term) specific targets that are measurable, eg
> "Increase 8 translation locales from 80% coverage to 100% coverage before
> 2017/1/1"
>
> 5. Tasks (short term) actual activities that are assigned to people to get
> done, eg "Chris Leonard to organize volunteers to meet the translation
> objective."
>
> You noted that typically the common focus of activity of free software
> projects is at the 4-5 level, with bon mots like "release early, release
> often," while 1-2-3 chan

Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

[Sameer Verma]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> BTW… as with any really good presentation, the slides don't tell the whole
> story, they mearly enhance it. Doing otherwise results in that tragedy
> commonly referred to as "Death By Power-Point." So, please find the time to
> listen and watch the whole thing.
>
> If we are lucky, Sameer will find time to do more like this.
>
> Coming soon :-)

Sameer


> Caryl
>
> > From: d...@lab6.com
> > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:01:36 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
> > To: cbige...@hotmail.com
> > CC: sve...@sfsu.edu; sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
>
> >
> > On 24 June 2016 at 22:28, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 24 June 2016 at 18:20, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision,
> mission,
> > >> marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge.
> > >> Here are a few that I think are relevant to us.
> > >>
> > >> 1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission,
> Goals, etc.
> > >
> > > Sameer is a wonderful person to guide us in this process… after all,
> as a tenured
> > > professor in the Business School of San Francisco State University, he
> probably
> > > knows more about this process than all the rest of us combined!
> >
> > I agree. I would like to take Sameer's definitions as definitive. Does
> > anyone disagree with doing so?
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

[Sameer Verma]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Lionel Laské <lionel.la...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Great work.
> Very clear.
> May be you could share your slides too for those that had no time to see
> the video.
>
> Posted to the wiki.
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugarlabs_Strategic_Plan.pdf

Sameer


> Lionel.
>
> 2016-06-25 0:20 GMT+02:00 Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu>:
>
>> It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission,
>> marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. Here
>> are a few that I think are relevant to us.
>>
>> 1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission, Goals,
>> etc.
>> 2) Perhaps the confusion stems from not knowing how these pieces fit
>> together, and the roles these play.
>> 3) There are several confounding variables at play. For example, Sugar is
>> a FOSS project. Sugarlabs is an agency established to
>> foster/facilitate/support Sugar, the project. However, the two are not the
>> same. So, in our effort to establish a strategic plan, the unit of analysis
>> should be clear. For me, as a SLOB member, the unit of analysis is
>> Sugarlabs, the agency. Everything I look at, is through that lens,
>> including Sugar, OLPC, Sugarizer, etc.
>>
>> I've put together a screencast describing how all these things are
>> related. I hope this will bring some clarity.
>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/18/Sugarlabs-strategy-overview.webm
>>
>> cheers,
>> Sameer
>> --
>> Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
>> Professor, Information Systems
>> San Francisco State University
>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
>>
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Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

[Sameer Verma]

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Chihurumnaya Ibiam <
ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Sameer, i couldn't watch the video because of the format (.webm),
> except i am online, because of where i am i can't really watch the video
> online, can i get a download link.
>
> You can right-click and save the webm video. It will play in Firefox or
Chrome/ Chromium natively.

Sameer


> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you, Caryl :-) I was a bit pressed for time (I had to pick up my
>> kids from school), so perhaps I glossed over some of the terms. Yes, please
>> do move the tracker back and forth, and ask questions. This is a process,
>> and a process that works. We are not the first with this confusion, and we
>> have examples in other projects for different but aligned strategies.
>> Drupal and Drupal Association is one such example. (Note: I serve on the
>> Board of Directors of the Drupal Association, so I'm familiar with those
>> details).
>>
>> https://www.drupal.org/about/mission-and-principles
>> https://assoc.drupal.org/about
>>
>> cheers,
>> Sameer
>> --
>> Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
>> Professor, Information Systems
>> San Francisco State University
>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All...
>>>
>>> Very well done Sameer!  I hope everyone takes the approximately 35
>>> minutes to view this excellent clarification of what exactly is meant by
>>> terms like "Vision," "Mission," "Goals," "Objectives," and "Tasks."  Much
>>> of the discussions trying to address these items have been a bit
>>> "off-base," not for a lack of enthusiasm but, rather, from a lack of
>>> understanding of how things in business (and, yes, in education too)
>>> actually work. Maybe once we are all speaking the same language we can make
>>> some concrete progress in addressing these issues.
>>>
>>> Sameer is a wonderful person to guide us in this process… after all, as
>>> a tenured professor in the Business School of San Francisco State
>>> University, he probably knows more about this process than all the rest of
>>> us combined!
>>>
>>> Happy viewing…. warning, this is very educational. It is like a lecture
>>> in a college level… maybe even graduate level course.  Expect to be
>>> challenged. Expect to need to drag the marker back once in a while to
>>> revisit a term. It will be will worth the time and can serve you well in
>>> other areas of your life besides Sugar and SugarLabs!
>>>
>>> Caryl
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: sve...@sfsu.edu
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:20:49 -0700
>>> To: sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> Subject: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
>>>
>>>
>>> It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission,
>>> marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. Here
>>> are a few that I think are relevant to us.
>>>
>>> 1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission, Goals,
>>> etc.
>>> 2) Perhaps the confusion stems from not knowing how these pieces fit
>>> together, and the roles these play.
>>> 3) There are several confounding variables at play. For example, Sugar
>>> is a FOSS project. Sugarlabs is an agency established to
>>> foster/facilitate/support Sugar, the project. However, the two are not the
>>> same. So, in our effort to establish a strategic plan, the unit of analysis
>>> should be clear. For me, as a SLOB member, the unit of analysis is
>>> Sugarlabs, the agency. Everything I look at, is through that lens,
>>> including Sugar, OLPC, Sugarizer, etc.
>>>
>>> I've put together a screencast describing how all these things are
>>> related. I hope this will bring some clarity.
>>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/18/Sugarlabs-strategy-overview.webm
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Sameer
>>> --
>>> Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
>>> Professor, Information Systems
>>> San Francisco State University
>>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
>>>
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Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

[Sameer Verma]

Thank you, Caryl :-) I was a bit pressed for time (I had to pick up my kids
from school), so perhaps I glossed over some of the terms. Yes, please do
move the tracker back and forth, and ask questions. This is a process, and
a process that works. We are not the first with this confusion, and we have
examples in other projects for different but aligned strategies. Drupal and
Drupal Association is one such example. (Note: I serve on the Board of
Directors of the Drupal Association, so I'm familiar with those details).

https://www.drupal.org/about/mission-and-principles
https://assoc.drupal.org/about

cheers,
Sameer
-- 
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Professor, Information Systems
San Francisco State University
http://verma.sfsu.edu/


On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All...
>
> Very well done Sameer!  I hope everyone takes the approximately 35 minutes
> to view this excellent clarification of what exactly is meant by terms like
> "Vision," "Mission," "Goals," "Objectives," and "Tasks."  Much of the
> discussions trying to address these items have been a bit "off-base," not
> for a lack of enthusiasm but, rather, from a lack of understanding of how
> things in business (and, yes, in education too) actually work. Maybe once
> we are all speaking the same language we can make some concrete progress in
> addressing these issues.
>
> Sameer is a wonderful person to guide us in this process… after all, as a
> tenured professor in the Business School of San Francisco State University,
> he probably knows more about this process than all the rest of us combined!
>
> Happy viewing…. warning, this is very educational. It is like a lecture in
> a college level… maybe even graduate level course.  Expect to be
> challenged. Expect to need to drag the marker back once in a while to
> revisit a term. It will be will worth the time and can serve you well in
> other areas of your life besides Sugar and SugarLabs!
>
> Caryl
>
> --
> From: sve...@sfsu.edu
> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:20:49 -0700
> To: sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
> Subject: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
>
>
> It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission,
> marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. Here
> are a few that I think are relevant to us.
>
> 1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission, Goals,
> etc.
> 2) Perhaps the confusion stems from not knowing how these pieces fit
> together, and the roles these play.
> 3) There are several confounding variables at play. For example, Sugar is
> a FOSS project. Sugarlabs is an agency established to
> foster/facilitate/support Sugar, the project. However, the two are not the
> same. So, in our effort to establish a strategic plan, the unit of analysis
> should be clear. For me, as a SLOB member, the unit of analysis is
> Sugarlabs, the agency. Everything I look at, is through that lens,
> including Sugar, OLPC, Sugarizer, etc.
>
> I've put together a screencast describing how all these things are
> related. I hope this will bring some clarity.
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/18/Sugarlabs-strategy-overview.webm
>
> cheers,
> Sameer
> --
> Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> Professor, Information Systems
> San Francisco State University
> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
>
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[IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

[Sameer Verma]

It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission,
marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. Here
are a few that I think are relevant to us.

1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission, Goals, etc.
2) Perhaps the confusion stems from not knowing how these pieces fit
together, and the roles these play.
3) There are several confounding variables at play. For example, Sugar is a
FOSS project. Sugarlabs is an agency established to
foster/facilitate/support Sugar, the project. However, the two are not the
same. So, in our effort to establish a strategic plan, the unit of analysis
should be clear. For me, as a SLOB member, the unit of analysis is
Sugarlabs, the agency. Everything I look at, is through that lens,
including Sugar, OLPC, Sugarizer, etc.

I've put together a screencast describing how all these things are related.
I hope this will bring some clarity.
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/18/Sugarlabs-strategy-overview.webm

cheers,
Sameer
-- 
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Professor, Information Systems
San Francisco State University
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

[Sameer Verma]

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I  am all for raising funds but we need to articulate the reason why we
>>> need them.
>>>
>> To pay for labour to achieve goals, such as the existing translations and
>> finance manager roles and perhaps others in the future; to find out which
>> members are active in 2016; to pay for all travel expenses for all active
>> members to attend a sugar summit... there are countless things you can do
>> with general funds.
>
>
>
> Dave - Walter means how we articulate to potential donors, i.e. the
> compelling story I have mentioned. It's a marketing problem and rushing
> through a motion is not the solution - we need to be clear what our vision
> and major goals are, and relate them convincingly to donors.
>
>
+1

The strategic plan for Sugarlabs, which should include Vision, Mission,
Goals, Objectives and Tasks can not only act as a roadmap (time frame 3 to
5 years) but also then justify request for funds for said Tasks. The funds
can be through a fundraising campaign or grants etc.

cheers,
Sameer
-- 
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Professor, Information Systems
San Francisco State University
http://verma.sfsu.edu/

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

[Sameer Verma]

Approve.

Sameer
On May 6, 2016 4:49 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> At today's Sugar Labs oversight board meeting [1], we discussed the motion
> submitted by Sebastian Silva to allow the mentors participating in Google
> Summer of Code to disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see
> fit. I second the motion and bring it to you in an email vote.
>
> Background: Every year, Google provides mentoring organizations with a
> stipend for the mentors. In our first year of participation in the program,
> Sugar Labs mentors agreed to have the stipend directed to the Sugar Labs
> general funds. We have followed the same procedure in subsequent years.
> This year, however, several mentors asked if they could have access to the
> stipends (which are allocated per student internship). We discussed this at
> the meeting and agreed that it would be appropriate to offer these funds as
> compensation and thanks to the mentors for their time and expertise (there
> were no objections raised). We need to vote on this however, since the
> funds are given to the mentoring organization, not the individual mentors.
>
> Members of the oversight board, please reply to this email solicitation
> for a vote on the following motion. (Note that since I am a mentor, I think
> I must recuse myself from the vote.)
>
> Motion: to allow the mentors participating in Google Summer of Code to
> disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see fit.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2016-05-06
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion

[Sameer Verma]

Approve.

Sameer
On May 6, 2016 6:40 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> At today's Sugar Labs oversight board meeting [1], we discussed the motion
> submitted by Chris Leonard to fund a program for translation of Sugar into
> Yoruba, one of the three main languages spoken in Nigeria. I second the
> motion and bring it to you in an email vote.
>
> Members of the oversight board, please reply to this email solicitation
> for a vote on the following motion.
>
> Motion: To fund a program to initiate the translation of Sugar into
> Yoruba. The specific milestones and costs are detailed below. A description
> of the rationale for the project is found at [2]. The work would be led by
> Samson Goddy and reviewed by Chris Leonard, in his role as Translation
> Community Manager.
>
> This proposal is for the translation of Sugar user interface and
> certain Sugar Activities into the Yoruba language (ISO-639 code - yo).
>
> Milestone 1 - The initial payment of $350 USD will cover startup costs
> (internet connection fees, localizer recruitment/training, etc.).
> Payment is to be made upon successful completion of contractual
> arrangements with fiscal sponsor (SFC).
>
> Milestone 2 - Glucose - Payable upon completion and upload to Pootle
> of the PO files for sugar, sugar-toolkit-gtk3, OLPC_switch_desktop
> will be for $1,350 USD. Included in this milestone is a $300 USD
> project management fee, in addition to fees of approximately 40
> cents/word for the projects included in this milestone.  The uploaded
> files must pass all "critical" error checks (as flagged by the Pootle
> software) and be approved by the Sugar Labs Translation Community
> Manager, such approval not to be unreasonably withheld.
>
> Milestone 2 must be completed prior to Milestone 3.
>
> Milestone 3 - Fructose - Payable upon completion and upload of the PO
> files for Calculate, Chat, ImageViewer, Jukebox, Log, Paint, Pippy,
> Portfolio, Read, ReadETexts, Record, Speak, Terminal, TurtleArt, Web,
> Write will be for $2,300 USD. Included in this milestone is a $675 USD
> project management fee, in addition to fees of approximately 40
> cents/word for the projects included in this milestone.  The uploaded
> files must pass all "critical" error checks (as flagged by the Pootle
> software) and be approved by the Sugar Labs Translation Community
> Manager, such approval not to be unreasonably withheld.
>
> Total anticipated costs for all three milestone payments will be $4,000
> USD.
>
> All projects are hosted on the Sugar Labs Pootle server at
>
> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/yo/
>
> Translation may be performed off-line with subsequent upload to the
> Pootle server.
>
> regards,
>
> -walter
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2016-05-06
> [2]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gtqpEOmDxxUYGdpbbBMlrPLQ-T6_OVnqdyAPJpaeORw/edit?usp=sharing
> 
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Re: [IAEP] Newbie on Sugar

[Sameer Verma]

Thanks!

Sameer

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Sam P. <sam@sam.today> wrote:
> For web activities, there is:
> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/activity.md.html
>
> On 2 May 2016 5:03:57 AM AEST, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for instructions for a newbie to get started on building HTML
>> 5 activities for Sugar.
>>
>> The students in question are in high school, and have minimal coding
>> experience. Typical equipment is either a Mac or Windows laptop. No prior
>> OLPC or Sugar experience.
>>
>> Ideas? Starting points?
>>
>> My goal is to try this out with some of our younger members at OLPC-SF,
>> and go from there.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sameer
>>
>> 
>>
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[IAEP] Newbie on Sugar

[Sameer Verma]

I'm looking for instructions for a newbie to get started on building HTML 5
activities for Sugar.

The students in question are in high school, and have minimal coding
experience. Typical equipment is either a Mac or Windows laptop. No prior
OLPC or Sugar experience.

Ideas? Starting points?

My goal is to try this out with some of our younger members at OLPC-SF, and
go from there.

Cheers,
Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

[Sameer Verma]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote:
> I submitted motions to the Board as follows:
>
> I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of
> Translation-Community Manager as described at
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager.
>

+1

> I further move that Chris Leonard be named to this position effective
> immediately.

Abstain.

>
> At Adam's request, I am adding a third motion:
>
> I move that the Translation-Community Manager be paid a stipend of $1000 per
> month.
>

Abstain.

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> I would like to call for seconds to these motions.
>
>
> Tony
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

[Sameer Verma]

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:23 AM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently we did not actually get all the votes necessary to approve a
> motion to pay Devin a $500 stipend for his time taken away from his Day Job
> to help with the Turtle Blocks workshops at the Constructionism Conference.
> The motion was made and voted on at the 2015-12-07 meeting [1]. There were
> only three votes cast. (I thought four had been cast.) There was no
> objection raised at the time and Devin did take a week off from work to
> attend the meetings and run the workshops. I'd like to reopen this motion
> with the new board and take a vote.
>
> Motion: offer Devin U. an honorarium ($500) to compensate him since he
> needed to take a week off from work to run two Turtle/Music Blocks workshops
> at the Constructionism Conference. The funds would be allocated from the
> Trip Advisor grant which are in support of promoting and advancing Turtle
> Blocks around the world.
>

Abstain.


> Please respond ASAP, as I feel we need to clarify the situation and not
> leave Devin hanging.
>
> Adam, in the future, it would be nice to get a heads up when you find
> mistakes and not just catch them by noticing a change to a wiki page.
>
> Also, I need clarity regarding the Trip Advisor grant. I believe that the
> oversight board has previously granted me approval to spend grant money on
> workshops under the conditions that (1) I inform the committee of my plans
> and (2) I don't exceed the budget. Apparently this is not the understanding
> of some of you and not the understanding of the SFC.
>
> Motion: Walter, as PI of the Trip Advisor grant, will inform the SL
> oversight board of his plans for workshops that fall under the guise
> promotion of Turtle Blocks but otherwise has discretion in organizing and
> funding these events, within the budget constraints of grant and the travel
> guidelines of the SFC.
>

Aye.

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> Please take action on this ASAP as I am many months without reimbursement
> for travel for several workshops.
>
> FWIW, the large proportion of the travel and expenses associated with the
> workshops to date has been paid for by third parties. I've been able to
> stretch the budget quite far.
>
> thank you for your attention.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
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> Date: Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 4:45 AM
> Subject: Sugar Labs page Oversight Board/Decisions has been changed by Holt
> To: Walter <walter.ben...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear Walter,
>
> The Sugar Labs page Oversight Board/Decisions has been changed on
> 8 April 2016 by Holt, see
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions for the current
> revision.
>
> See
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Oversight_Board/Decisions=next=97963
> to view this change.
>
> See
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Oversight_Board/Decisions=0=97963
> for all changes since your last visit.
>
> Editor's summary:  -
>
> Contact the editor:
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF March meeting

[Sameer Verma]

Note: We have moved to Room 610, sixth floor, same building.

Sameer
On Mar 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Aaron D Borden"  wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
> March 12th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
> Street, 5th floor, Room 597 (the fishbowl).
>
> Agenda
> - Meet and greet
> - Project updates
>
> Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
> welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
> latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
> projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
> play around with, too.
>
> Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/1136446406366484/
> Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/cljp1ftf3g7mjq7e8hqi9fv8up0
>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] scheduling our next meeting

[Sameer Verma]

I can do 1600 UTC. I think you meant Feb 12?

Sameer
On Feb 4, 2016 1:18 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like we are converging. For me, Fridays at 16h00-17h00 UTC would
> work. Shall we try for January 12?
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Lionel Laské <lio...@olpc-france.org>
> wrote:
>
>> BTW I could manage as well during the week (monday-friday) from 9h00 UTC
>> to 17h00 UTC.
>>
>> 2016-02-03 21:57 GMT+01:00 Lionel Laské <lio...@olpc-france.org>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> First, thanks to all of you that give me their vote. Really appreciate
>>> your confidence.
>>>
>>> I guess that UTC 15h00-17h00 should be okay on most timezone.
>>> I can manage it if we plan meetings one or two weeks before.
>>>
>>> Best regards from France.
>>>
>>>   Lionel
>>>
>>> 2016-02-03 20:06 GMT+01:00 Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu>:
>>>
>>>> I'm OK with times between 9AM and 10PM, except for 12pm to 4pm and 7pm
>>>> to 10pm on Mondays and Wednesdays (teaching schedule). Weekends are OK too,
>>>> but not as structured. All times are Pacific.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Sameer
>>>> On Feb 2, 2016 12:17 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.ben...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It being 3AM in Thailand, I forgot to say thank you for Carly,
>>>>> Sebastian, and Samson for there efforts in the membership drive and 
>>>>> running
>>>>> the election. Thanks :)
>>>>>
>>>>> regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> -walter
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome Lionel, Tony, and Sameer to the new Sugar Labs oversight
>>>>>> board. And welcome back Jose Miguel, Adam, and Claudia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel, Gonzalo, and Chris, many thanks for all that  you have done
>>>>>> for the Sugar Lab community. Your efforts and generosity are much
>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam, Laura, and Ed, thank you for making the effort to become part of
>>>>>> the SL oversight board. I hope yo will participate even without a voting
>>>>>> role.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that we have a new SLOB team, we need to find a regular time to
>>>>>> meet. We are spread across more time zones than in the past, so it may 
>>>>>> be a
>>>>>> bit more difficult to schedule a time that works for everyone (23UTC is
>>>>>> great for UY and the US East Coast, but less convenient in FR and the US
>>>>>> West Coast. And Tony is seemingly everywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose we could use technology to set up a survey to choose a time
>>>>>> of day, but perhaps the end points (Tony, Lionel, and Sameer) can narrow
>>>>>> the search space for us first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please discuss it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS: I will update the SLOB mailing list ASAP.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] scheduling our next meeting

[Sameer Verma]

I'm OK with times between 9AM and 10PM, except for 12pm to 4pm and 7pm to
10pm on Mondays and Wednesdays (teaching schedule). Weekends are OK too,
but not as structured. All times are Pacific.

Cheers,
Sameer
On Feb 2, 2016 12:17 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> It being 3AM in Thailand, I forgot to say thank you for Carly, Sebastian,
> and Samson for there efforts in the membership drive and running the
> election. Thanks :)
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>> Welcome Lionel, Tony, and Sameer to the new Sugar Labs oversight board.
>> And welcome back Jose Miguel, Adam, and Claudia.
>>
>> Daniel, Gonzalo, and Chris, many thanks for all that  you have done for
>> the Sugar Lab community. Your efforts and generosity are much appreciated.
>>
>> Sam, Laura, and Ed, thank you for making the effort to become part of the
>> SL oversight board. I hope yo will participate even without a voting role.
>>
>> Now that we have a new SLOB team, we need to find a regular time to meet.
>> We are spread across more time zones than in the past, so it may be a bit
>> more difficult to schedule a time that works for everyone (23UTC is great
>> for UY and the US East Coast, but less convenient in FR and the US West
>> Coast. And Tony is seemingly everywhere.
>>
>> I suppose we could use technology to set up a survey to choose a time of
>> day, but perhaps the end points (Tony, Lionel, and Sameer) can narrow the
>> search space for us first.
>>
>> Please discuss it.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> PS: I will update the SLOB mailing list ASAP.
>> --
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>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>
>
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[IAEP] Candidacy for Sugar Labs Oversight Board

[Sameer Verma]

Greetings!

I'm happy to post my candidacy for the Sugar Labs Oversight Board
(SLOB). You can find my listing at
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2015-2016-candidates and
my statement at https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Sverma

Looking forward to your support and continuing to work with you all
for the years to come.

cheers,
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF September meeting this Saturday

[Sameer Verma]

Note room change for the meeting today. We met in Room 610 (sixth floor)
instead of 597 in the same building.

Sameer
On Sep 10, 2015 9:09 AM, "Aaron Borden"  wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our monthly meeting Saturday,
> September 12th, from 10AM - 1PM at the downtown SFSU campus, 835 Market
> Street, 5th floor, Room 597 (the fishbowl).
>
> Please bring your XOs and other wifi-enabled devices to help our
> Raspberry Pi wifi dongle ad-hoc testing effort.
>
> Agenda
> - Meet and greet
> - Ian Craig: Offline Micro Digital Library Evaluation and Comparison
> - Raspberry Pi wifi dongle ad-hoc testing
> - Project updates
> - Summit planning
>
> Offline Micro Digital Library Evaluation and Comparison
>
>   By Ian Craig
>
>   Abstract: There are many different digital library solutions currently
>   developed or in the process of development. While this is great news
>   for students and educators in under-served areas, this ubiquity can
>   also be a problem. With so many options; how are these institutions
>   and local people supposed to effectively discern which solution is
>   "best"? How is the superlative “best” defined in this case? What
>   criteria should people (with zero to little technical experience) base
>   their microserver research and judgement on? Even if a substantial
>   amount of potential microserver clientèle knew (and was able to
>   execute) an effective research methodology, would a trial-and-error
>   process involving testing all “viable” solutions be an efficient use
>   of time?
>
>   In this presentation Ian Craig (SFSU student and intern at Inveneo),
>   will discuss different off-the-shelf solutions and how these compare
>   across the board using multiple criteria.
>
>
> Raspberry pi wifi dongle ad-hoc testing
>
>   Please bring as many wifi clients as possible: smart phones, tablets,
>   laptops (XOs or others.) The idea is to see how many clients we can
>   get connected to the Raspberry Pi access point at any one time. We
>   have half a dozen different usb wifi dongles to evaluate.
>
>
> Our meetings are held on the second Saturday of every month. Everyone is
> welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be discussing the
> latest in OLPC events and give updates on our local (and global)
> projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest builds to
> play around with, too.
>
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar DIgest 2015-05-26

[Sameer Verma]

Just saw the news as well.
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-May/msg00027.html

I exchanged a few notes with him about his illness some time ago (my mother
had the same. She passed away a few months ago). Marco seemed to be doing
better.

His work will live on.

Sameer
On May 26, 2015 6:28 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:

 1. It is with great sadness that write these words: Marco Presenti Gritti,
 the principal Sugar developer from Red Hat from 2006 to 2008 and one of the
 founders of Sugar Labs, passed away this past weekend after a long illness.
 Marco was a brilliant engineer whose work still reverberates throughout the
 Sugar stack and a warm, personable colleague, father, and husband. We will
 miss you Marco.

 == Sugar Digest ==

 2. For those of you who are interested, we hold our GSoC group meetings on
 Fridays, 11:00 EST (Boston), 14:00 UTC on irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting.

 === Tech Talk ===

 3. Peter Robinson, Sam Parkinson, Sean Daly, and Iain Brown Douglas have
 done a great job of revamping the Sugar on a Stick spin site for Fedora.
 Please see [1].

 === Sugar Labs ===

 4. Please visit our planet [2].

 ---

 [1] http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/
 [2] http://planet.sugarlabs.org

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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Nepal quake

[Sameer Verma]

Thanks Christoph?

I cannot even begin to imagine what it will take to rebuild and
re-establish. All the people I know in Nepal have now checked in as safe,
but clearly that's not the case for thousands :-(

Sameer
On Apr 25, 2015 1:39 PM, Christoph Derndorfer 
christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sameer,

 I emailed Rabi right after I heard about the quake this morning. He's fine
 but stuck somewhere in a remote part of Nepal. As the airport in Kathmandu
 is closed down he was waiting for news about the roads being open and safe
 so he could head back to Kathmandu.

 Someone running the OLE Nepal Facebook account also got back to me and
 said that they're doing fine.

 So from what can tell it looks like everyone is doing okay given the
 circumstances. Some other friends in Kathmandu mentioned spending the night
 outside their building as aftershocks keep happening sporadically.

 Cheers,
 Christoph
 Am 25.04.2015 22:04 schrieb Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu:

 Anybody have any updates from our friends in Nepal? I saw one post on
 OLENepal's Facebook page and that's it. News out of Nepal is very
 disturbing :-(

 I hope they are ok.

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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Nepal quake

[Sameer Verma]

On Apr 26, 2015 9:30 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:

 Thanks Christoph?

Thanks Christoph! Excuse the typo.

Sameer

 I cannot even begin to imagine what it will take to rebuild and
re-establish. All the people I know in Nepal have now checked in as safe,
but clearly that's not the case for thousands :-(

 Sameer

 On Apr 25, 2015 1:39 PM, Christoph Derndorfer 
christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sameer,

 I emailed Rabi right after I heard about the quake this morning. He's
fine but stuck somewhere in a remote part of Nepal. As the airport in
Kathmandu is closed down he was waiting for news about the roads being open
and safe so he could head back to Kathmandu.

 Someone running the OLE Nepal Facebook account also got back to me and
said that they're doing fine.

 So from what can tell it looks like everyone is doing okay given the
circumstances. Some other friends in Kathmandu mentioned spending the night
outside their building as aftershocks keep happening sporadically.

 Cheers,
 Christoph

 Am 25.04.2015 22:04 schrieb Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu:

 Anybody have any updates from our friends in Nepal? I saw one post on
OLENepal's Facebook page and that's it. News out of Nepal is very
disturbing :-(

 I hope they are ok.

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[IAEP] Nepal quake

[Sameer Verma]

Anybody have any updates from our friends in Nepal? I saw one post on
OLENepal's Facebook page and that's it. News out of Nepal is very
disturbing :-(

I hope they are ok.

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Re: [IAEP] Laura de Reynal at OLPC-SF tomorrow!

[Sameer Verma]

Room change. We meet in 612 on the 6th floor. Same building.

Sameer
On Apr 10, 2015 12:53 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:

 Super excited that Laura de Reynal will be joining us tomorrow for
 OLPC-SF's April meeting! She'll be talking about Mozilla's Webmaker
 (https://webmaker.org/). More about Laura at
 https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/Lau/

 10AM to 1PM at 835 Market St. Room 597, San Francisco, CA 94103

 Laura is a part of OLPC France and was very active in Nosy Komba,
 Madagascar and with us in OLPC Jamaica.

 ALEARN, as they used to say ;-)

 See you tomorrow!!!

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[IAEP] Laura de Reynal at OLPC-SF tomorrow!

[Sameer Verma]

Super excited that Laura de Reynal will be joining us tomorrow for
OLPC-SF's April meeting! She'll be talking about Mozilla's Webmaker
(https://webmaker.org/). More about Laura at
https://mozillians.org/en-US/u/Lau/

10AM to 1PM at 835 Market St. Room 597, San Francisco, CA 94103

Laura is a part of OLPC France and was very active in Nosy Komba,
Madagascar and with us in OLPC Jamaica.

ALEARN, as they used to say ;-)

See you tomorrow!!!

cheers,
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Re: [IAEP] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)

[Sameer Verma]

 of branding,
Sugar/Sugarlabs has none. It is still a vestige of OLPC, which
continues to enjoy a high brand status around the world (good, bad,
it's all publicity).

This may be a lot to digest, but unless we address of these issues,
this project will go nowhere fast.

best,
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:

 Hi Samuel,



 Thanks to share your vision. I think you're right, SugarLabs lack of a clear
 long-term vision that we could share with all contributors. Hope that your
 mail we'll give us opportunity to share our thought on that.

 Here's mine.



 If Sugar want live, it can't be limited to a niche platform: neither the XO,
 neither a Fedora computer. I'm sure we're all convinced that the better
 platform for education is a computer but today all others decision maker in
 the world seems to think that it's a tablet or even a mobile.



 So the question is how we could answer to requests for these new platforms
 thought keeping our roots: an unique UI for children, a reflection tool
 (Journal), a collaborative platform (Presence) and the most important - free
 an open source contents.



 My point of view is that we must not invest time to think how we could be
 compliant with a new platform, we need to think in another way: how we could
 port Sugar on Any platform ? Any computer (from the bigger one to the tiny
 one: raspberryPI), any laptop, any tablet, any mobile.



 And the answer is simple: web technologies allow every device to run very
 complex software. It's the only solution to be compliant with any device.
 It's where we need to put our investments.



 It's why I've got a personal engagement on Sugar for the Web from years:

 First to allow Sugar activities to be written using web technologies. From
 Sugar 0.100 thanks to Sugar Web, every developer could write new Sugar
 activities using exclusively HTML5/JavaScript - without any line of
 Python/Gtk.
 Second to create a Sugar container for the web - named Sugarizer - that
 could host any Sugar Web activities and that reproduce the unique Sugar
 features: Sugar UI, Journal and Presence.



 Sugar for the Web is not the Sugar successor, Sugar for the Web is a way to
 do a transition from Sugar for the XO to an universal version of Sugar that
 could run on any device so that could be used by any children anywhere on
 the world.

 Most important with Sugar for the Web we don't leave alone our current base
 of Sugar users, with Sugar 0.100+: any new Sugar Web activities will be
 usable both on Sugar on old devices and Sugar on new devices.



 With Sugarizer and Sugar Web, Sugar for any device already exist. But to
 become a reality, we need to invest more on it:

 Have a clear roadmap of transition between old Sugar activities to Sugar
 Web activities.
 Convince a more important community to join us. Sugar is the better learning
 platform, with Sugar for the Web, it should be easy to convince other
 communities to help us. I think specifically to Mozilla because they have a
 clear engagement on web and open source and Google because of their wish to
 embrace education with Chrome. We need to ask help from them.
 Experiment: we need to start deployment as soon as possible to demonstrate.
 At OLPC France, we've got ambition to start a first experimental deployment
 of Sugarizer before the end of the year.



 All of us spent years on promoting the Sugar philosophy. We have the choice
 to look backward or look forward. My choice is clear: with Sugar for the Web
 I will give to every children the same opportunities I gave to XO users.


 Best regards from France.


Lionel.




 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:36:34 -0500
 From: Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org
 To: IAEP SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
 Subject: [IAEP] Planning for the future
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 Disclaimer: The following are my views, and not the views of my current or
 past employers.

 About a year ago, I privately expressed concern that Sugar needed to
 ensure
 it had long-term sponsorship and a long-term user base.

 Since then, both the historical US-based OLPC organization and Sugar Labs
 have not publicly said much about their long-term plans, with OLPC also
 being rather closemouthed about the present.

 Meanwhile contributors silently leave.  It is hard to justify volunteering
 when you don't know who will benefit besides mysterious customers.

 Everyone seems happy to cite their past successes.  No one corrects the
 press when they report stale information in their favor.


 There is no shame in being a smaller project.  But we need to ask the hard
 questions.  With Sugar, getting users and developers for a niche platform

Re: [IAEP] Intel's attempt at an offline server

[Sameer Verma]

This may very well be a CES vaporware thing.

Sameer
On Jan 26, 2015 9:14 AM, Christoph Derndorfer 
e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:

 Unfortunately there's a lack of pricing information as well as information
 about the available content (and accompanying management systems) but
 overall this looks like an interesting effort. Oh, and I really do like the
 inclusion of a (supposedly) 5 hour battery as this will come in really
 handy in places such as Nepal, rural Peru, etc.

 Just my 2 eurocents,
 Christoph

 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:

 http://linuxgizmos.com/intel-spins-ubuntu-based-education-access-point/

 cheers,
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[IAEP] Intel's attempt at an offline server

[Sameer Verma]

http://linuxgizmos.com/intel-spins-ubuntu-based-education-access-point/

cheers,
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[IAEP] Watch WEB: The Film for free today

[Sameer Verma]

This came in via Twitter.

https://twitter.com/OLPC/status/534364032598540288


From their site:

The 'One Laptop Per Child' project aims to give children from the
world's poorest and most isolated corners access to the Internet's
infinite world of knowledge. In the deserted Peruvian village Antuyo
live a hundred inhabitants. They live in isolation from modern society
and their way of life is unaffected by the technological developments
of the past two centuries. All this changes when a boat arrives in the
village with 14 laptops, a generator and a satellite dish. 5-year-old
Roy goes to school the next day and is for the first time introduced
to what is now to be the instrument of his learning. In 'Web', Michael
Kleiman has closely followed the project's expansion to Peru, from
Roy's first tentative keystrokes on the white keyboard and all its
teething problems. An optimistic film about the new opportunities,
communities and changes that modern technology brings with it.


cheers,
Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC-SF Community Summit and Turtle Art Day

[Sameer Verma]

We plan on broadcasting some of the sessions from Saturday and Sunday.
You can follow these along at
https://plus.google.com/108423383350207135431/

The approx. schedule (Pacific time) is:

10AM - 10:50AM State of Sugar (Walter Bender)
11AM - 11: 50AM How to build Sugar activities (Gonzalo Odiard)
12PM -12:45 Fix-it Session (Alex Kleider, Nina Stawski, Hilary Naylor)

Lunch 12:45PM to 2PM

2:00PM - 2:45PM Lightning talks: project updates in 5 minutes each.
Jamaica, India, Tanzania, Australia, Madagascar, and more
2:50PM- 3:35PM Analytics in Nepal and Australia (Sameer Verma, Martin Abente)
3:40PM - 4:25PM RACHEL and solar power (Bruce Baikie)

cheers,
Sameer

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Aaron Borden adbor...@live.com wrote:
 Great news! We're excited to announce that Turtle Art Day[1] will be
 held in conjunction with this year's Community Summit[2] this weekend!
 Our summit will be focused on the intersection of education and
 technology. We'll discuss what's going on in the One Laptop Per Child
 universe, as well as what other education outreach communities are doing
 globally. The goal is to get folks together to discuss problems,
 collaborate, and find solutions together.

 If you're not familiar with Turtle Art, it's an application where
 students create art through programming. Turtle Art Day is a worldwide
 event happening throughout the month of October. Turtle Artists are
 coming together to teach each other and learn together. OLPC-SF is proud
 to be working with Sugar Labs[3] to put together this event here in San
 Francisco. It represents the exploration of new spaces and media for
 learning beyond online, beyond OLPC. We hope you all will be able to
 attend. Please see the event page for details.

 Saturday October 18th
 OLPC-SF Community Summit

 Sunday October 19th
 Turtle Art Day

 San Francisco State University
 1600 Holloway Avenue
 Business Building room 202
 San Francisco, CA 94132


 [1] http://www.olpcsf.org/TurtleArtDay2014
 [2] http://www.olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2014
 [3] http://www.sugarlabs.org/
 [4] http://communitysummit2014.eventbrite.com

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[IAEP] Fwd: [OLPC-SF] Call For Proposals: OLPC SF Community Summit 2014

[Sameer Verma]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Hilary Naylor hnay...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:54 AM
Subject: [OLPC-SF] Call For Proposals: OLPC SF Community Summit 2014
To: olpc-sf olpc...@lists.laptop.org


dear all,

OLPC-SF has opened proposal submission for the 2014 Community Summit
to be held in San Francisco, California, USA, during the weekend of
October 17-19

Submission form here:
http://www.olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2014/proposal

As you know, this year's Summit will be a hybrid virtual+in-person
event. This gives us greater flexibility in scheduling workshops, as
they may happen in any timezone.

Workshops topics generally fall under either Technology, Education or
Outreach and last for 60-75 minutes. Group organized workshops are
very much encouraged. We would like to see sessions that include
deployments from different parts of the world, with discussion of
similarities and differences.

You can read more about proposal submission on our blog:
http://www.olpcsf.org/node/211

We look forward to lively discussions and vigorous networking at the Summit!

regards,
Hilary

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[IAEP] WEB the film

[Sameer Verma]

This project has a new site. You can also watch the whole documentary on
sites such as iTunes, Amazon, Google Play etc. by paying for it.

I'm also looking into screening in San Francisco.

http://webthefilm.com/

Sameer
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[IAEP] A very cool project with TurtleArt

[Sameer Verma]

Found a very cool project made with TurtleArt!
http://joshburker.blogspot.com/2014/04/3d-printed-turtleart-stamps-for-clay.html

Talk about covering S, T, E, A, and M!

cheers,
Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] In-person, online or both? | OLPC San Francisco (Sameer Verma)

[Sameer Verma]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Lionel Laské lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:
 Drupal error :-(


Fixed.

Sameer

  Lionel.



 2014-08-27 18:00 GMT+02:00 iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org:


 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:10:59 -0700
 From: Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu
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 grassro...@lists.laptop.org,  olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org, iaep
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 How will you participate in the upcoming OLPC San Francisco Community
 Summit 2014? Let us know, so we can plan accordingly.

 http://www.olpcsf.org/node/212

 Cheers,
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Re: [IAEP] In-person, online or both? | OLPC San Francisco

[Sameer Verma]

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
 How will you participate in the upcoming OLPC San Francisco Community Summit
 2014? Let us know, so we can plan accordingly.

 http://www.olpcsf.org/node/212

 Cheers,
 Sameer

I got a few queries on how we were planning to run the event online.
We are working on setting up an instance of Summit Scheduler. This
platform is used by Ubuntu to run their online summits for each
release. You can see an instance of Summit Scheduler in action for
their summits at http://summit.ubuntu.com/

Summit Scheduler relies on Google Hangouts for organizing the live
sessions. The session presenters use a Google Hangout setup. The
attendees use a Youtube live stream to watch and IRC to ask
questions/participate. Once done, the sessions will be available on
Youtube later. Mike Lee has agreed to be the Director of the Google
Hangouts process with tips and tricks on how best to run these
sessions. The submission of proposals, organization of the calendar,
timing etc. is all done by the Summit Scheduler. Aaron Borden is
working on setting up a version of the Summit Scheduler with our own
branding/colors etc.

The code and instructions for Summit Scheduler can be found at
http://summit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

Do let me know if you have any other questions.

cheers,
Sameer
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[IAEP] In-person, online or both? | OLPC San Francisco

[Sameer Verma]

How will you participate in the upcoming OLPC San Francisco Community
Summit 2014? Let us know, so we can plan accordingly.

http://www.olpcsf.org/node/212

Cheers,
Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] In-person, online or both? | OLPC San Francisco

[Sameer Verma]

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
 How will you participate in the upcoming OLPC San Francisco Community Summit
 2014? Let us know, so we can plan accordingly.

 http://www.olpcsf.org/node/212

 Cheers,
 Sameer

Poll had auto-expired, but it's been turned back on. Take the poll and
let us know.

Sameer
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF August meeting

[Sameer Verma]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Aaron Borden adbor...@live.com wrote:
 Hello folks,

 We're back at the downtown campus for this month's olpc San Francisco
 monthly meeting. It's this weekend, Saturday, August 9th, from 10AM -
 1PM, at SFSU downtown campus, 835 Market Street in Room 597 (the fish
 bowl).



Update: We meet in DTC 610 and not DTC 597. DTC 610 is on the 6th
floor of the same building. 835 Market St. San Francisco, CA 94103

Sameer


 Everyone is welcome to join us for our monthly meeting! We'll be
 discussing the latest in olpc events and give updates on our local (and
 global) projects. There will be plenty of XO laptops with the latest
 builds to play around with, too.

 This month we're going to kick off our meeting with project needs
 requests. Do you need help with your project? Do you have skills or
 areas of expertise to help a project in need? Let us know and we'll
 announce it at our meeting. We're hoping to get a temperature for what
 needs our community is looking for and match people up with projects.

 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/events/739185672786660/
 Google+ https://plus.google.com/events/ct34hjqlpu8p88go827ocb80204

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