[IAEP] Computation for thinking with (was IAEP] Sugar Digest 2013-10-05)
On Oct. 5 Walter Bender wrote: In the early 1960s, while studying with Jean Piaget, Seymour Papert had the insight that computation was a thing to think with. Ken Iverson's Turing Award lecture was titled Notation as a Tool of Thought. http://www.jsoftware.com/papers/tot.htm He, of course, used examples from his own language, APL (A Programming Language), which inspired the creation of Backus's functional programming languages (described in his Turing Award lecture), and many others. He quoted Concerning language, George Boole in his Laws of Thought [1, p.24] asserted “That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.” Mathematical notation provides perhaps the best-known and best-developed example of language used consciously as a tool of thought. Recognition of the important role of notation in mathematics is clear from the quotations from mathematicians given in Cajori’s A History of Mathematical Notations [2, pp.332,331]. They are well worth reading in full, but the following excerpts suggest the tone: By relieving the brain of all unnecessary work, a good notation sets it free to concentrate on more advanced problems, and in effect increases the mental power of the race. A.N. Whitehead Ken's son Eric organized the annual Tool of Thought Conference to follow up on that idea. You can see an example applied to our work with Sugar, in Iverson's algebra textbook, which I have updated at http://booki.treehouse.su/algebra-an-algorithmic-treatment/ as part of the Sugar Labs program for Replacing Textbooks (with Open Educational Resources). Of course it would help if we could get the language concerned, J, packaged for Fedora and Sugar. In mathematics, the otherwise contentious Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis, that the structure of language sets limits on what is readily thought, is simply understood as a given. Of course, it does not mean that we cannot go beyond those limits, just that it is very, very hard, and that in some cases we have to invent more language so that more people can do it. Historically, the clearest example is the difference between the Newton dot and Leibniz d notations for calculus. Due to the nationalist furore over precedence between Britain and Germany, British mathematicians refused to use the Leibniz d notation until Charles Babbage founded the Analytical Society to replace the dot-age of England with the d-ism of the Continent. Thus the proliferation of mathematical notations and of programming languages and paradigms ever since. There is a good deal more to this story, including the fact that Turtle Art tree-structured programming is superior in Computer Science terms and for children's use to textual programming, but I will leave that unless somebody asks me. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: [Womeninfreesoftware] 9/21 Cambridge area software freedom event
Is anybody goint to this event to talk about education in and with Free Software for girls? -- Forwarded message -- From: Deb Nicholson d...@eximiousproductions.com Date: Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM Subject: [Womeninfreesoftware] 9/21 Cambridge area software freedom event To: Discussion re: increasing women's participation in free software womeninfreesoftw...@gnu.org Hi all, I'm going to be speaking about Technology and Dystopia at Software Freedom Day in Cambridge on Sept. 21st at Cambridge College. (http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Boston_Software_Freedom_Day) You'll hear updates from local groups and voices from the wider free software movement. Expect learning, celebrating and plenty of networking. This event is free and open to the public! Everyone is welcome: old FOSS friends reconnecting, new people being introduced to free software for the first time, and everyone in between. I hope you'll join me if you're local! Cheers, Deb ___ womeninfreesoftware mailing list womeninfreesoftw...@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/womeninfreesoftware -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Astrology at Spirituality for Kids
On Sun, August 25, 2013 8:14 pm, James Simmons wrote: Between Get Books and Read Etexts and the Browse Activities a child wishing to study his own religion or others has a wealth of material to look at. Personally I'd leave it at that. Sword is OK, and if there is something for studying the Koran that's OK too. If I could figure out how a Python program could make studying the Gita easier or more enjoyable I'd write one. You don't need to. We can use existing software such as Sword with any text in English. Sword also deals with Unicode, so we should be able to put in the Sanskrit Devanagari as well. There is also software for creating concordances, and there are dictionaries in the Public Domain. Let me know if you would like a set of links for all of that, and I will ask around to see who else would like to work on it. I have contacts with organizations doing electronic versions of Buddhist, Muslim, Sikh, and Daoist texts, would expect to be able to find many others without trouble. Some of them have their own software. If you would be willing to Sugarize some of it, we can talk. http://www.crosswire.org/sword/index.jsp The SWORD Project is the CrossWire Bible Society's free Bible software project. Its purpose is to create cross-platform open-source tools-- covered by the GNU General Public License-- that allow programmers and Bible societies to write new Bible software more quickly and easily. We also create Bible study software for all readers, students, scholars, and translators of the Bible, and have a growing collection of over 200 texts in over 50 languages. For example, they have a Bible in Hindi. I have not looked to see whether it is in Devanagari or Romanization. But I know that they do full pointed Hebrew and polytonic Greek, and that they offer Strong's Bible dictionaries in both. James Simmons -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Classroom research project in Indiana
I have been offered funding for a research project on XOs, Sugar, and OERs, and I would like to get information on similar projects. The funding would cover XOs and other equipment (power, WiFi, server), teacher training, and testing, at least, for one classroom, preferably in an inner-city school in Indiana. We would also try out some OERs from the Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks program and from FLOSS Manuals, and write some more. I have asked the Indiana University eLearning Center and the Indiana DOEd eLearning people for their views and possibilities for collaboration. Indiana has a law allowing computers to be purchased from the textbook budget. So if we could get a statewide OER project to replace all of the textbooks, we could afford computers for all students at a net savings. The first question is how to get the hardware for this project, since the usual minimum purchase is 10,000 units. Obviously there are projects at education schools that have gotten past that obstacle. I would like to gather data on all existing classroom projects in the US in order to write a report on them for prospective partners. I would share it with this community, of course. Perhaps there are opportunities for collaboration between projects, as well. I assume that many such projects have developed materials that would be of use in this project, whether software, teacher training materials, lesson plans, or any other. The question of testing is a vexed one, as any of you know who have seen the nonsense published about the Peru study. Opponents of our work ignore improvements in cognitive skills, among other issues. More broadly, none of us entirely know what else we should be measuring. In general, in scientific inquiries, a good question is worth thousands of ordinary answers. I have also been approached for a very different OLPC project in another country which I will write about when I know something more definite. Well, I can say that there is involvement from an international foundation, and possibly UNESCO, and that there is talk of an international conference. But so far it is just talk. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] XO Help and open source docs conference
If there is sufficient interest to get a team together, I can probably attend. I can drive over from Indiana. I see that our Janet Swisher will be speaking. So we could definitely organize a sprint. On Wed, April 10, 2013 8:39 am, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Hi Gonzalo, thanks a lot for forwarding that invitation. Both the conference and the sprints sound like a great opportunity to update Sugar documentation (especially looking towards 1.00 / 0.100) and connect with others working in that area! Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to attend myself as the prices for flights from Europe are very close to reaching their summer-high in mid-June (e.g. the absolutely cheapest option which I could find for Vienna-Cincinnati-Vienna would cost ~€830). Plus after the outcome of the documentation sprint in Boston last April (which left much to be desired) and our failure to be accepted at the Google DocSprint at the end of the year I think it might be a good idea to have new blood lead any such efforts. Daniel Francis has repeatedly expressed his interest in documentation lately, maybe someone can support him in putting together a team of kick-ass documentation ninjas for the event. :-) Cheers, Christoph On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote: Forward information about OpenHelpConference invitation. Gonzalo -- Forwarded message -- From: Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org Date: Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM Subject: XO Help and open source docs conference To: Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com, Brian Jordan br...@laptop.org, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org, Bastien Guerry b...@altern.org Hi guys, I'm the team lead for the GNOME documentation team, and the developer of the documentation viewer and tools used in GNOME. I'm emailing you because you're all listed as the developers of the XO Help activity. http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4051 For the last two years, I've been running a conference that focuses on documentation and support in open source and open communities. The third Open Help Conference is this June. http://openhelpconference.com/ We regularly get contributors to projects like Mozilla, OpenStack, FreeBSD, and of course GNOME. The two-day conference portion has a heavy emphasis on open, attendee-led discussions, with only a few presentations to spark the conversation. We also host a number of teams for doc sprints for three days after the conference. Sprint attendance is not mandatory, and each team runs its own sprint. The teams do get together to share thoughts and hang out. Do you think anybody within the Sugar and OLPC communities would be interested in attending? I think it's a shame that Sugar and GNOME people don't talk more often, and I'd love to meet anyone interested in documentation. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Shaun -- Gonzalo Odiard -- Christoph Derndorfer volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net] e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Fwd: [squeakland] The Dynabook and modern computing
[I'm sorry, this got lost in cyberspace for a week.] I'll give the same answer here. Actually, it was agriculture that led to the idea of government as a protection racket and to kneecapping or worse of those who refused to pay their taxes. Hunter-gatherer cultures are tribal, not national, and far more cooperative. I have historical and archaeological data on this if anybody needs it. Or you could watch The Gods Must Be Crazy and its sequel for humorous examples. Run and tell everybody to come and help us eat this elephant. (Killed by poachers, who took the tusks and left the body.) On Tue, April 2, 2013 10:27 pm, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: It took me while to realize that I forwarded it to a wrong list... -- Forwarded message -- From: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: [squeakland] The Dynabook and modern computing To: Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki.ohsh...@acm.org Cc: Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de Ask him: how did the invention of agriculture influence civilization? Or: what is ultimately more powerful, competition or cooperation? Cheers, Alan From: Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki.ohsh...@acm.org To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com Cc: Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:47 AM Subject: Fwd: [squeakland] The Dynabook and modern computing Benoit is asking this. -- Forwarded message -- From: Benoît Fleury benoit.fle...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [squeakland] The Dynabook and modern computing To: Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de Cc: IAEP SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, squeakland list squeakl...@squeakland.org Thank you Bert for the link. I am not sure to understand this metaphor with agriculture. One way to think of all of these organizations is to realize that if they require a charismatic leader who will shoot people in the knees when needed, then the corporate organization and process is a failure. It means no group can come up with a good decision and make it stick just because it is a good idea. All the companies I’ve worked for have this deep problem of devolving to something like the hunting and gathering cultures of 100,000 years ago. If businesses could find a way to invent “agriculture” we could put the world back together and all would prosper. If someone could explain me what it means. Thanks, Benoit. On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Time interviews Alan Kay: http://techland.time.com/2013/04/02/an-interview-with-computing-pioneer-alan-kay/ - Bert - ___ squeakland mailing list squeakl...@squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland ___ squeakland mailing list squeakl...@squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland -- -- Yoshiki -- -- Yoshiki ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Suggestions needed for Learning(Teaching) reading
On Wed, February 27, 2013 8:09 pm, Steve Thomas wrote: I will be heading to Haiti next month and the teachers are requesting feedback and ideas on teaching English at the school I will be visiting. I am looking for good resources on methods of teaching/lessons, software suggestions and non computer games and methods of learning. One of the best methods for teaching foreign languages is the microwave technique created by Earl Stevick of the US Foreign Service Institute, one of the top language schools in the world. It consists of short, carefully sequenced lessons that introduce single points of grammar, which are then reinforced in dialogs where students are encouraged to explore the possible range of variation in using the expressions they have just learned. Microwave was adopted by the Peace Corps for all of its language materials and courses in something like 80 languages. I was taught a little bit of the technique as an English teacher with the Peace Corps in South Korea in the 1960s. There is A Microwave Course in English as a Second Language (For Spanish Speakers) available for free download from the US government Educational Resources Information Center Web site. http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true_ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=ED035876ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=noaccno=ED035876 A teacher's manual exists, but I have not seen it offered for download. Obviously, this is not quite what the Haitian teachers want. It would require significant work to adapt it to the requirements of speakers of standard French or of Kreyòl Ayisyen, and to make it usable at other than the adult level. I can assist. I have been working on the similar Microwave Course in Spanish (for English speakers), and trying to get a Creative Commons license to permit wider use, adaptation, and republishing. We do not know who owns the copyright at present, since the original publisher, Lingoco, has gone out of business. I could do with some assistance in such issues of licensing. I have ordered Proust and the Squid and am looking at Maryanne Wolf video's suggested by Mike Lee. Thanks, Stephen -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] video of XOs in the Amazon
I added a paragraph on the documentary and the YouTube excerpt, with references, to the English-language version of the page. Can somebody let the children know so that they can translate it for the Spanish-language page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestina,_Peru I have wanted to suggest this practice of having students write Wikipedia pages as a regular part of the curriculum for every OLPC deployment, starting with pages in the local languages on every local subject, and expanding to translations by students of various other languages as they become sufficiently capable. I will write this up for my blog, http://replacingtextbooks.wordpress.com/ This page mentions caywa, evidently a local crop for which there is no Wikipedia page in either Spanish or English. I do not find it in Spanish Wiktionary, either. Here is another page that mentions caywa without explanation. http://sachamama.livingroutes.org/2011/07/28/shukshuyaku/ Apparently the standard spelling is caigua, and the name is derived from Quechua kaywa. http://www.yanuq.com/buscador.asp?idreceta=1095 http://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/caigua So I added a link to Cyclanthera pedata «Caigua» redirige aquí Please thank the students for me, and let them know that I was delighted to have the opportunity for a collaboration with them. No hablo español realmente, pero sé leer. Qué los niños me escriben, por favor. Muchas gracias. On Thu, January 31, 2013 12:35 am, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: A great story! From: w...@laptop.org Subject: video of XOs in the Amazon Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 00:07:14 -0500 To: de...@lists.laptop.org Wikipedia pointed me to this excerpt from an upcoming film, web. It shows kids with XOs in the Peruvian Amazon creating on Wikipedia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPnH_rF9ksfeature=youtu.be Cheers, wad -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Linux Foundation seeks video tutorials
Would anybody care to submit a tutorial about Linux on an XO or Sugar on a Stick? They are asking specifically about spreading Linux around the world. I have some ideas about what we could show. http://video.linux.com/100-linux-tutorials 100 Linux Tutorials Video Campaign Join us in building a collective knowledge base for Linux! The Linux Foundation is inviting you to share your knowledge of Linux with people who are just getting started. Help us remove barriers to learning Linux and transfer expertise around the globe. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Factorisation visualisation was Sugar Digest 2013-01-25
You can't do functions with arguments in Turtle Art, and so obviously you can't do full recursion with stacked and shadowed arguments directly in Turtle Art, but you can implement much of recursion in any of the usual ways using the push and pop stack blocks or other dodges. Have a look at the fractal examples in the library. Or you could call Python to create a list to store partial results in. The case of tail recursion, where none of the recursive calls have to return because the recursive call is the last statement in the function, is easy. In pseudocode, with handwaving of some details that I leave as exercises, Set count to 0 Give variable n a positive integer value. Factorize If n=1, end ElseIf n is prime, push n; increment count Else find a factor m of n, and push that factor; increment count Factorize n/m ShowResult while count0 print pop m decrement count Of course in Logo you have full recursion. In the Etoys version of Turtle Art, you can use recursion in Smalltalk. On Sun, January 27, 2013 3:14 am, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: To: sthom...@gosargon.com From: fors...@ozonline.com.au Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:44:51 +1100 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [IAEP] Factorisation visualisation was Sugar Digest 2013-01-25 http://www.datapointed.net/visualizations/math/factorization/animated-diagrams/ Beautiful, thanks for sharing. If anyone does code this up, please allow for stepping (rather than playing) and allow kids to enter numbers and factors, so they can guess and look for patterns. Or kids could create their own versions in Turtle Art or Etoys as part of a lesson. Hi Clunky but working in Turtle Art at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Turtle_Art_factors.ta Its limited to 3 factors, I couldn't see any way to have an arbitary number of factors without recursion and I couldn't see any way to get recursion in Turtle Art Good! I change the .ta to this automatic version that begins in 1 and continues.. see .ta attached.. Tony -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Classroom of the Future (was Re: Looking for a school to see technology in education in action in Orlando or Miami area)
On Thu, January 10, 2013 11:35 am, Rita Freudenberg wrote: Hi, on behalf of my colleagues I'm looking for a school they can visit while they are attending FETC conference in Orlando at the end of this month. Here in Magdeburg, Germany, we are working in a project classroom of the future, dealing with the technological and educational challenges when using laptops in the classroom. Would your project be interested in discussing OERs and digital learning materials technologies, such as Etoys, EPUB3, and HTML5? We have established that computers with Free Software and OERs cost much less than printed textbooks, and we know in principle that OERs can be used to integrate Free Software into the curriculum in every school subject, including gym/PE. If the answer to the above question is yes, then consider this an application for me, as head of Replacing Textbooks at Sugar Labs, and a contributor to FLOSS Manuals and so on, to join your project. Columbus, Indiana, where I now live, has started to put computers in the classroom. California has a Free Digital Textbooks Initiative. Bangladesh and South Korea are well along in developing free digital textbooks and classroom computers. Indonesia has made a public commitment to do so, and has made a strong start on digitizing existing textbooks. India is sort of thinking about it with the underpowered Aakash computer. This is in addition to countries committed to OLPC projects, and other projects using other computers, other software, and other OERs. Creative Commons, UNESCO, and UNDP are all very active in OERs, although UNESCO needs some help to get started on K-12 materials. UNHWR would also be interested, for example in putting OERs into its school deployments in Palestinian refugee camp schools in Gaza and elsewhere. There will be an international conference on OERs in Bali, Indonesia this year. I expect that school tours can be arranged. http://conference.ocwconsortium.org/index.php/2013/2013 OCWC Global Conference 2013 Bali Ayodya Resort May 8, 2013 – May 10, 2013 OCWC Global 2013, hosted by APTIKOM Indonesia, will be held in Bali, Indonesia May 8-10. Partnering with the OCWC and APTIKOM for the realization of conference goals is a local organizing team which includes the National ICT Council of Indonesia, Ministry of Education and Culture, Ministry of Information and Communication, and the Indonesian Open University. Held annually, OCWC Global reunites the OCW/OER community for three days of showcasing new projects, debating issues of common concern, and exchanging useful practices in matters such as pedagogy, policy and technology. They are very much interested to see how these things work in other countries. If you know a school they could visit or a person they could talk to, please let me know. They are not only interested to see best practice, but also, what kind of problems arise. Since we are at the beginning of this here in our area, we want to learn what works and what to anticipate. For plan b, do you think I could just approach schools in the area and ask if they can visit? They are both computer scientists, but their first training was to become teachers. Now they work here at the university in Magdeburg in the teacher training group. Thank you for your help! Greetings, Rita Rita Freudenberg rita.freudenb...@ovgu.de -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
For images of the eye under CC-BY-SA, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eye On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm not sure why, but I not like much Etoys (with all my respect to my namesake Alan Kay :-) I prefer a pure-python activity. For example, a first activity could be: I know the Eye and use a similar image to this: (search: eye anatomy) External: (muscleds, etc) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg And internal: http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg The first problem is obtain a good image (CC creative commons or similiar free license). Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:31:15 -0500 From: sthom...@gosargon.com To: andry...@gmail.com CC: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Alan, If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them. If you send me some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly. It would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes). If it works for both of us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a more robust case. Stephen On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? I would suggest taking a look at the accumulated notes and links on these pages. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
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[IAEP] SoaS in Fargo (was Re: IAEP Digest, Vol 56, Issue 23)
Tony Forster and I have been creating Turtle Art tutorials on various art, math, programming, and Computer Science subjects, which you can find at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials Please let us know whether any of this would be useful in your curriculum, and whether there are any other materials you would like us to help develop. Our topics range from preschool (You Be the Turtle) to a Turtle Art Turing Machine. On Mon, November 19, 2012 12:34 pm, Brooks, Kevin wrote: John, we run a SoaS after school program at two K-6 schools in Fargo. We have a computer science undergraduate making the sticks, and I'll warn you--our failure rate on sticks is often about 20%. We haven't been able to identify all the problems: sometimes them simply won't boot, other times they will boot and work for a session or two and then fail. Sometimes the kids just yank them out--we are pretty sure that isn't a good idea. ; ) We have a 14 week curriculum posted on our website, but we have modified it for this year. We haven't posted the new stuff. We just meet once a week for about 45 minutes a session. After a single day overview of Sugar we have focused on Turtle ARt for 5 weeks (going on 6). We are very happy with this curriculum. Last year we split our spring curriculum between Physics (which the kids love) and Etoys (which they don't). You'd think we would stick with Physics this year, but we might give Etoys another run. : ) Oh, I noticed you are aiming for 5-7 year olds; we work with the upper range: 10-12. We can still talk technical stuff and I could guess at some pedagogical issues with 5-7 years. I've had my own kids use Sugar. Feel free to call or Skype, John, if you want more details. Kevin http://fargoxo.wordpress.com Skype: kabbie13 On Nov 19, 2012, at 11:00 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.orgmailto:iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:10:09 -0500 From: John Landis j...@johnlandis.netmailto:j...@johnlandis.net To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.orgmailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [IAEP] Introduction: teacher interested in SOAS Message-ID: CACSFgESFW8Ogb5B+vbtjzFfwwat-eRPsLCVh8PCTvhC=bqn...@mail.gmail.commailto:CACSFgESFW8Ogb5B+vbtjzFfwwat-eRPsLCVh8PCTvhC=bqn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi there, Not sure if this email list is the proper place to post, but I wanted to introduce myself to the community. I work in Philadelphia, teaching technology and media literacy at a K-6 (ages about 4-12) charter school. I'm interested in using Sugar on a Stick with my 5-7 year old students. I need a bit of guidance as I explore this new territory, both on the technical and the pedagogical side of things. So, first question: have I got the right community or should I be posting elsewhere? -John Landis ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18
I would go further. Can we invite the children to give us their stories? They should be wikified, blogged, made the subject of articles in the geek and education press, and spread even more widely than that. Better still, can we invite the schools where this children are learning and sharing to celebrate them using Sugar tools to create interactive presentations? On Wed, September 19, 2012 10:52 am, James Simmons wrote: Walter, First, congrats on the grandchild. Second, I am intrigued by the statement that 10% of Sugar Activities were written by children who grew up with Sugar. That is an incredible accomplishment, and it makes me wish that the ASLO website had a Collection of those Activities. If something like that existed I could see what kinds of Activities they were doing, how many were programs written for other environments using a Sugar wrapper, how many are purely Sugar Activities, who the developers are, what Sugar features are they using and not using, how popular the Activities are, etc. It would also give our younger developers a way to stand up and be counted. James Simmons -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] My problem with your OUI is that I can't see what problem it is solving.
, is a means to an end, but (particularly in a monopoly market) there is always the risk of it becoming political territory, as with the Academie Francaise for example, fighting off the linguistic invasion of l'Anglish./div div style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxbr/divdiv style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxbut if evolution is truly inevitable, might it not be better to go with it than stick one's heels in against it?/div div style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxbr/divdiv style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxaside from the surface interface issues of whether one should point with a finger or a mouse, or type on a screen or a keyboard (typing isn't going to go away anytime soon as reliable AI aural comprehension is still a long way off) - there are deeper issues; issues about the deep interface - issues about how the interface provides access to function. Google has found a pretty good way of providing access to data - now users need one for providing obvious access pathways to function too, to make machines truly user-friendly./div div style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxbr/divdiv style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxand a means of facilitating collaboration: if there is one still green field waiting to be ploughed, it is the field of synchronous real-time collaborative creative activity extending beyond mere chat. user collaboration takes place inside an application, but the screen management and filesystem support engineering needs to provide the props for that to occur smoothly, to assure data integrity, etc. this is one of the stated design goals of sugar; i don't know whether it is also a design goal of android./div div style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxbr/divdiv style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxbelow is one suggestion on how desktop and playground metaphors of android/linux and sugar respectively could coalesce and evolve, so that the user interface gets out of the user's way and becomes merely a means to the end of facilitating interaction with the real educational (or other functional) content instead of (as in the case of sugar) shouting about itself in the user's face or (as in the case of linux) being awkwardly troublesome for the non-geek:/div div style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxbr/divdiv style=vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;border:0px;padding:0pxa href= https://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/oui.pdf; style=margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,17,204) target=_blankhttps://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/oui.pdf/a/div /div ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- website http://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/home +61(0)266537638 +61(0)488471949 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2344;#2367;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1606;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585;#1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: [Womeninfreesoftware] AdaCamp July 10 - 11 in DC, Applications are open
Anybody want to go and talk about all of our girls? -- Forwarded message -- From: Deb Nicholson d...@eximiousproductions.com Date: Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:46 Subject: [Womeninfreesoftware] AdaCamp July 10 - 11 in DC, Applications are open To: Discussion re: increasing women's participation in free software womeninfreesoftw...@gnu.org Applications for AdaCamp DC are now open - apply now! http://dc.adacamp.org/apply/ AdaCamp DC will be July 10 - 11, 2012, in Washington DC, co-located with Wikimania 2012. We are likely to have more applications than available slots, so apply now to have the best chance of attending. Applications close June 15 (May 11 for those requesting travel assistance). Who should apply AdaCamp DC will bring together a wide variety of people from open technology and culture, all of whom are working to support women in open tech/culture. We're looking for people who: * Participate in open technology and culture: any field involving open/grassroots/community participation and sharing the results of your work for free: open data, open source software, wikis, open government, open libraries, remix/fan culture, open video, and more * Can share information about women's experiences in that field, including talking about women's achievements and the challenges they face * Want to work together and share strategies to support and promote women in the field * Share the Ada Initiative's feminist approach to supporting and promoting women in open technology and culture * Are young and old; students, professionals and hobbyists; from a diverse range of backgrounds; and reflect the breadth of the open technology and culture field AdaCamp is open to people of all genders. However, since AdaCamp and the Ada Initiative exist to support and promote women in open technology and culture, prospective attendees who are not themselves women will need to demonstrate a high level of prior engagement and experience with the issues faced by women in those fields in order to be invited. Find out more about AdaCamp DC at the event webpage: http://dc.adacamp.org/ __ _ Supporters mailing list support...@lists.adainitiative.org http://lists.adainitiative.org/listinfo.cgi/supporters-adainitiative.org ___ womeninfreesoftware mailing list womeninfreesoftw...@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/womeninfreesoftware -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: Linux Foundation Announces 2012 Collaboration Summit Keynotes Program
Anybody attending? Anybody going to tell them about our collaboration tools? -- Forwarded message -- From: Linux Foundation Events no-re...@linuxfoundation.org Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 16:07 Subject: Linux Foundation Announces 2012 Collaboration Summit Keynotes Program To: echer...@gmail.com Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit April 3 - 5, 2012 Hotel Nikko - San Francisco, CA Taking place annually since 2007, the Linux Foundation’s Collaboration Summit is an exclusive, invitation-only gathering of the brightest minds in Linux, including core kernel developers, distribution maintainers, ISVs, end users, system vendors and other community organizations. It is the only conference designed to accelerate collaboration and encourage solutions by bringing together a true cross-section of leaders to meet face-to-face to tackle and solve the most pressing issues facing Linux today. Interested in attending the Collaboration Summit? Space is limited at this event, and runs out every year, so request an invitation to attend today. The Collaboration Summit 2012 Keynote Line-up Includes: Frank Frankovsky, Facebook’s Director of Hardware Design and Supply Chain talking about Open Compute Imad Sousou, director of Intel’s OSTC, discussing the importance of Linux at Intel Feargal O'Sullivan, Global Head of Alliances at NYSE Technologies, Inc. talking about how they open sourced the OpenMAMA middleware system for the Financial Services industry at the Linux Foundation Linux Kernel Developer Panel featuring James Bottomley, Parallels; Keith Packard, Intel; John Linville, Red Hat and moderated by Greg Kroah-Hartman, The Linux Foundation Timo Jokiaho, CTO, System Software at Huawei Technologies discussing how Network Traffic Growth in the mobile industry is driving Linux and Open Source Innovation IBM’s Gerrit Huizenga will give a reality check on the state of Linux and the cloud in a presentation titled “The Clouds Are Coming: Are We Ready? Getting the Kinks out of the Software Supply Chain Panel featuring panelists Mark Gisi, Wind River Systems; Scott Lamons, Hewlett-Packard; Jack Manbeck, Texas Instruments and moderated by Phil Odence, Black Duck Software View the Schedule and Program Collaboration Summit 2012 Workgroups Conference Sessions will cover the following topics: Virtualization/Cloud Computing HPC/HA Tracing Legal Kernel OpenMAMA Tizen Yocto Project LSB Desktop SPDX Community Best Practices Filesystems UEFI Tools If you would like to attend this exclusive event, request an invitation today: Co-Located Events Linux Training Alongside the Collaboration Summit this year, we are please to offer the following Linux Foundation Linux Training Courses: LF384 Overview of Open Source Compliance End-to-End Process (Hotel Nikko, San Francisco) April 1, 2012 Enroll Now LF271 Practical Guide to Open Source Development (Hotel Nikko, San Francisco) April 2, 2012 Enroll Now LF326 Advanced Linux Performance Tuning (Hotel Nikko, San Francisco) April 2, 2012 Enroll Now Platinum Sponsor Gold Sponsors Silver Sponsor Bronze Sponsors If you have any questions, please email us at eve...@linuxfoundation.org. The Linux Foundation, 1796 18th Street, Suite C, San Francisco, CA 94107 To no longer receive any email from The Linux Foundation please click here to unsubscribe. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] RFC:Simple Help widget for activities
On Wed, March 7, 2012 7:37 am, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: We receive many times request about adding help in the activities, and if is true Sugar propose a exploratory approach, not all the people learn in the same way, and there are people who prefer a little guidance. I yield to nobody in my preference for letting students discover as much as possible about Sugar, or anything else, but as I noted in The Undiscoverable on the Wiki, it is not always possible, particularly when dealing with named functions in math and programming, and sometimes in other areas. There are times when hints are required, and times when outright explanation is required. You will find many examples of both in The Undiscoverable, and in the draft Discovering Discovery at http://booki.treehouse.su. On the other hand, Donald Norman famously complained, in The Psychology of Everyday Things/The Design of Everyday Things, about doors that require a user manual, even of one word, whether Push or Pull. One should apply his design principles, and others like them, to every item that appears to require a help entry. For the development we need a simple api, and easy i18n, and a non obtrusive experience for the user. None of which is easy to replicate when reinventing the training wheel. ^_^ Inspired by the DescriptionItem, I was experimenting with a widget to add simple help to activities. This is not: * A manual * Lessons * Tips Is a short startup help for the activity. Use only text and the icons already used by the activity. A example can be seen here: http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/images/simple_graph_help.png In the activity we only need do: helpitem = HelpButton() toolbar.insert(helpitem, -1) helpitem.show() helpitem.add_section(_('Basic usage')) helpitem.add_paragraph(_('First you need add data to create the graphic')) helpitem.add_paragraph(_('You can add data with this button'), 'row-insert') helpitem.add_paragraph(_('...or remove data with this button'), 'row-remove') helpitem.add_paragraph(_('To change the graphic title, just change the activity title')) We should get the result of your work, when it stabilizes, added to Making Your Own Sugar Activities. This proposal is late for sugar 0.96, but may be we can try it in one or two activities, and start thinking about this topic. I really like the help in the Implode activity, but have the following problems: * I don't know if apply to other type of activities. * Is modal * need a lot of code to implement it. Comments? Thank you. Gonzalo -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting announcement
On Sat, February 25, 2012 8:46 pm, Chris Leonard wrote: +1 Or, in the J terminology I am using in updating Ken Iverson's book, Algebra: An Algorithmic Treatment, : I sent Walter a note that Google is now offering grants to US 501c3s. I will see if I can get more detail for the meeting. There are other grant opportunities that we could pursue. cjl On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Fadel has got a great handle on the SL finances and is ready bring SLOBs and the community up to speed. Would Tuesday at 5:30PM EST (22:30 UTC) work? Usual place: irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Google Summer of Code
On Wed, February 8, 2012 6:15 pm, Walter Bender wrote: It is that time of year again. We need to start soliciting participants in Google Summer of Code [1, 2]. We also need to organize our application to the program as a mentoring organization. Please contact me if you are interested in participating as a coder, a mentor, or administrator. Can we propose projects to integrate free software into Open Education Resources and thus into curricula? I would be delighted to mentor or administer such projects, and to coordinate between GSoC projects and FLOSS Manuals (for software manuals) and Sugar Labs (for Replacing Textbooks). I have several lined up in math and can come up with others in a variety of subjects. I have recently been doing the coding for Algebra: An Algorithmic Treatment, by Turing Award winner Kenneth E. Iverson. He wrote it for APL on printing terminals in the early 1970s, and I have translated it to his last language, J, on Linux, Mac, and Windows. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org [1] http://code.google.com/soc/ [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [OLPC library] OLPC/Sugar Doc Sprint Apr 6-10 @ OLPC HQ in Boston
Can any of us arrange to stay with somebody in the area while we work together? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 03:55, Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: Plz read all the wiki details RSVP here if you will contribute+attend, as we will very shortly reach capacity: http://j.mp/xomanual 20 People Expected in Person, from 4+ continents: Sameer Verma, Mike Lee, Walter Bender, Claudia Urrea, Richard Smith, Christoph Derndorfer, Reuben Caron, Mark Battley, Paul Fox, George Hunt, Chris Ball, Nancie Severs, CScott Ananian, Craig Perue, Saadia Baloch, Bill Stelzer, Bernie Innocenti, Dogi Unterhauser, Laura de Reynal, Adam Holt, etc -- even Sugar Labs' new finance officer Robert Fadel, and Pablo Flores if we are lucky! BONUS PREGAME: Apr 2-6 video tutorials sprint proposed for our favorite Sugar activities, thanks to Bill Stelzer, Mark Battley, Laura de Reynal, Christoph Derndorfer and a growing list of talented mediamakers. VIRTUAL ROMANCE AIN'T: Please talk to Caryl Bigenho ca...@laptop.org and our public list libr...@lists.laptop.org if you are motivated to write a particular chapter, but cannot attend in person, thanks!! A huge thanks to Master of Ceremonies Laura de Reynal who will be organizing nightly social events for all. She'll be working with Chris Ball (though he doesn't know it yet!) to organize several actual soccer/frisbee/etc matches too, get you limbered up, DO bring your April windbreaker sneakers, as I/she/we WILL be bouncing you out of the office on REGULAR occasions to fire up yr adrenaline =) -- Help kids everywhere map their world, at http://olpcMAP.net ! ___ Library mailing list libr...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/library -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] (no subject)
Please pass this on to OLPC Australia olpc...@lists.laptop.org , OLPC New Zealand olpc...@lists.laptop.org , OLPC Oceania olpc-ocea...@lists.laptop.org , Grassroots grassro...@lists.laptop.org On Fri, February 3, 2012 7:41 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Hello everyone, You may be interested in a review I have written of the OLPC Australia education programme: http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2012/02/01/creating-an-education-programme/ Thank you for this. Is Australia planning for the necessary conversion from printed textbooks to all-digital Open Education Resources? I say that it is necessary in part because the computers cost less than the printed textbooks, and also because we cannot integrate computer software into the curriculum until we go to digital OERs. Bangladesh has done so, and both Uruguay and South Korea have announced plans to do so. There are OERs on almost every subject at all levels, but outside Bangladesh there are no complete integrated suites covering all of the requirements, including teacher training. We need governments and school authorities to take this problem seriously, to plan for what is needed, and to think about how to organize and fund the conversion. It contains the video of a talk I gave at the linux.conf.au conference in January, and a more detailed explanation of that talk. Some of the key points: * We have a comprehensive education programme that highly values teacher empowerment and community engagement, with a focus on building sustainability. * The investment to provide a connected learning device to every one of the 300 000 children in remote Australia is less than 0.1% of the annual education and connectivity budgets. * For low socio-economic status schools, the cost is only $80 AUD per child. * Our programme is available to any school in Australia, for $380 AUD per child. * Our programme is schools-centric, with a strong focus on the teacher. * A teacher must undergo training and earn a certification to qualify to receive XOs for their class. * Training is conducted online, and hence scales very well. * We have an online community to provide peer-driven support, assisted by OLPC Australia personnel. * Technology development and deployment is guided by the principle that it must be manageable by non-technical personnel. * Our technology platform is open and not locked-down, providing maximum opportunity for children to learn and empowering schools/communities to own the deployment for themselves. * We are seeing real educational results from our efforts, and are engaged in longitudinal and detailed evaluation. * Our supporters include corporations and members of parliament at state and federal levels, but we can always use more help :) Please have a read if you are interested, and contact us if you would like to take part in our mission. We will be releasing more information on this educational programme in the coming months. Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Engineering Manager One Laptop per Child Australia ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Replacing Textbooks server working again
The Replacing Textbooks server, http://booki.treehouse.org/ is back up on its new hardware. Everything is functioning as before, as far as I can tell. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Moving the Replacing Textbooks Server
The Replacing Textbooks server at booki.treehouse.su is going down for transfer to a new host, which I will announce when it becomes available. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: What Sugar documentation do deployments need?
On Fri, January 27, 2012 12:07 pm, Pablo Flores wrote: This question is meant for people working on OLPC/Sugar deployment teams: What documentation do you think is important to have about Sugar and to keep updated? Thank you for this question. I would particularly like to hear from teachers and students on this. Have you asked on the OLPC-Sur list? This arises from the idea that's being discussed in the mailing lists about making a documentation sprint on April in Boston. Have you asked on the FLOSS Manuals FM-Discuss list? Initially we talked about updating http://laptop.org/manual/, as it got outdated with the recent changes to Sugar interface. After that, some ideas arose about developing solutions for making the manual's translations to other languages easier, of packaging it in different ways and of creating a pedagogic-oriented guide, among others. I am nearing completion of an algebra textbook with software that I plan to get Sugarized. Every math expression in the book can be executed via simple copy and paste, and the text suggests explorations going much further. I would like to know what deployments do think that would be useful for them. Thanks! Saludos, Pablo Flores ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 3 Questions From A New Sugar User Age 21
On Thu, January 26, 2012 5:07 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 27 January 2012 08:55, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 01/26/2012 01:40 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 25 January 2012 03:13, Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:49 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: 1. Can I install SoaS to hard disk? enter liveinst from the sugar-terminal Is there a reason why this isn't exposed in the GUI? Maybe it can be a CP applet? I think this is a valuable feature. Take a look at this new tutorial: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/liveinst It is listed here also along with some other tutorials: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#F16_Sugar_install_from_a_booted_Live_CD.2FUSB_with_liveinst Thanks. The problem, however, is that this is not easily discoverable. A newcomer shouldn't have to go searching through the wiki to find a way to install SoaS. I have added a link to these instructions on the page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Downloads, which is transcluded on the page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/ so that it will be easy to find in future. I also added a note about what computers SoaS runs on, including Intel Macs. And using the terminal is not exactly a friendly introduction to the platform But see Introduction to the Command Line (which I helped to write) at http://en.flossmanuals.net/command-line/ It is, as far as I know, the first and only shell command line manual for end users who do not plan to become sysadmins, and by far the friendliest. We had a non-programmer editor make sure that we never assumed too much, and that we kept to the proper tone and language. I assembled a glossary of the unavoidable jargon. :S Cheers, Sridhar -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Teachers ask programmers / Maestros preguntan a Programadores
The Replacing Textbooks program would like to contact countries and states or provinces within larger countries about the possibility of paid contracts to get subject-matter and curriculum experts, among others to create digital textbooks integrating Sugar and other powerful software into every aspect of the curriculum, including the development of appropriate teacher-training materials, in the primary international languages, and in the languages of any country concerned. In fact, we would like to create an international program in which countries could share such work and the resulting materials. I have started to talk with international agencies that could support such a program, and will be talking with countries when I finish digitizing and translating the first draft of Turing Award winner Ken Iverson's 1972 textbook, Algebra: An Algorithmic Treatment. It is in a 40-year old dialect of APL, and I am reworking it in J, Iverson's last language before he died. On Fri, December 2, 2011 8:23 pm, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 05:55 -0200, Carlos Rabassa wrote: This could open the competition to write applications to every programmer in the world who has the required knowledge. Teachers with ideas for good educational applications could write them themselves or find a programmer willing to do it. The teacher could select the programmer without restricting the choice to those willing to work as unpaid volunteers under the rules of SugarLabs. How can Sugar address this point and its misapprehension that Sugar looks like a closed shop? It was good to see a reply from Bert Freudenberg, that paid contributors are welcome. It would be good to hear it shouted loud that (for example) if a school were to commission someone to produce work suitable for the Sugar Activity Library, both the school and the writer would be credited. Carlos writes eloquently and with nice metaphor about the world in which he works. I think part of the content of his message tries to address the lack of response to his earlier message, Subject - Where may developers meet educators? As a generous community Sugar does well at harnessing individuals who can do some of their best work alone at 3am. How does Sugar go about giving support to service users? One small idea, could Sugar provide teachers with an area to upload and share lesson plans? This is a major chore, and in a subject anywhere near the edge of ones experience, harder still. When a lesson plan has been copied from elsewhere, it does not mean the children will hear it twice! This is something a bunch of us are working on (cc'ing them). In OLPC Jamaica, we started to build a forms-based interface where the lesson plans could be uploaded not as Word documents, but as text, etc. filled out in forms so that someone else may come by and clone an existing lesson plan and modify as needed. Unfortunately our main driving force behind this is no longer in Jamaica (she moved) so things have become a bit slow. This also came up at the recent OLPC San Francisco Community Summit as well. There are a few challenges, but nothing unsurmountable. I agree that lesson plans are a major challenge in any school environment. cheers, Sameer To Carlos I would say ask again: Where may developers meet educators? The education of an individual is a massive undertaking, it is built with small blocks, like the cat which I too enjoyed, and with other blocks with which it is sometimes difficult to work. Iain Brown Douglas Parent and Grandparent. Carlos Rabassa Volunteer Plan Ceibal Support Network Montevideo, Uruguay www.tiny.cc/AprendoILearn ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://olpcsf.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org
Re: [IAEP] Where may developers meet educators ? / ¿Donde pueden los desarrolladores encontrar a los educadores ?
IAEP, ubicada en http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep El 28 de Noviembre Sridhar Dhanapalan, contestó, desde Australia: Las listas de correo resultan demasiado incómodas a la mayoría de los maestros. Hemos estado encontrando que Yammer funciona mejor para aquellos que no son técnicos. Su interfaz similar a la de Facebook, se siente menos amenazante y ofrece muchas otras características que las listas de correo no pueden ofrecer. Hoy, 28 de Noviembre, Carlos Rabassa respondió: Sridhar, Tus opiniones me parecen muy interesantes. Sin embargo, no estamos discutiendo un problema científico universal. No me cabe ninguna duda de que tus comentarios se aplican a algunos de los maestros que conoces; los míos se aplican a maestros que conozco, un grupo diferente, y probablemente muy lejano del que tu conoces. Estamos discutiendo las razones individuales por las que un gran número de maestros, en diferentes localidades en todo el mundo, no se están comunicando con los desarrolladores de las aplicaciones que se crearon para ellos. Walter inició esta discusión, pidiendo ayuda para encontrar un buen sitio donde desarrolladores y maestros puedan reunirse. Los maestros escriben bien por su profesión y por su entrenamiento. Las interfaces typo Facebook, Yammer y SalesForce, son adecuadas para consultar un problema específico, alcanzando a muchos individuos que pueden ser capaces de contestar, ofreciendo respuestas casi inmediatas. El usar un sistema como estos, implica saber cómo explicar el problema claramente en un idioma entendido por otros en el grupo. Frecuentemente tiende a crear muchas respuestas inmediatas de personas con muy buenas intenciones pero que ofrecen respuestas que confunden más de lo que ayudan. Mi experiencia de leer las listas apunta a estos problemas principales con algunas listas, tales como IAEP: - Idioma - Los maestros en los despliegues más grandes de OLPC, hablan Español, no Inglés. Por los menos las instrucciones para suscribirse y para ver los archivos deberían ofrecer Español además de Inglés y Alemán como se ofrece actualmente. La lista OLPC-Sur, parece llegar a más maestros. Ofrece instrucciones en Inglés y en Español. - La mayoría de los sistemas más rápidos que las listas de correo, tales como la mensajería instantánea, suelen generar mensajes con lenguaje desprolijo. Todos tendemos a hablar en esta forma cuando estamos entre amigos y apurados. Estos mensajes están fuera del alcance de cualquiera que no tenga un dominio extraordinario del idioma. Frecuentemente a los extranjeros les resulta imposible entenderlos o traducirlos para otros. - Insultos: Cualquiera que haga una pregunta, tiene que estar preparado para recibir respuestas que , algunas personas sensibles y bien educadas podrían interpretar como ofensivas. No todos insultan a los novatos pero, cuando alguien escribe un insulto, los demás usualmente callan, como implicando que está bien ser grosero. A mi no logran ofenderme con insultos. Simplemente me dejan muy triste, pensando lo desafortunados que son los que nos insultan, lo estrecho que es el mundo en que viven. Uno de los insultos más directos que he recibido en las listas, provino de una buena persona que no parece conocer otro mundo que el de escribir aplicaciones para Sugar. Hay muchas otras cosas para disfrutar en esta vida. Hay muchas otras cosas útiles a la educación, los educadores y los estudiantes. - Respuestas rápidas incorrectas, de individuos que parecen más ansiosos por hacer alarde de sus conocimientos que de testear las respuestas antes de ofrecerlas a otros. - No soy capaz de traducir conversaciones rápidas como las que ocurren en las listas pero, me ofrezco con gusto a traducir textos bien pensados, escritos con cuidado, en Español o en Inglés, al otro idioma. Esta oferta la hago a cualquiera en cualquiera de las listas que sigo. Los textos bien escritos, usualmente los traductores automáticos los procesan bastante bien, permitiendo a cualquier persona en el mundo, leerlos y entenderlos. Carlos Rabassa Voluntario Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal Montevideo, Uruguay ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] First TamTamMini Lesson Resources
On Thu, September 22, 2011 10:56 pm, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Folks, We had our first Tam Tam Mini lesson with the XOs at the new Contributors Program project at Arrowhead School in Pray Montana. I have written it up on our blog and have added a Resources section where you can get and use any of the resources I prepared for the lesson. You will find it all here: http://arrowheadxoexplorers.wordpress.com/ Enjoy! Would you consider putting this material on the Replacing Textbooks server, http://booki.treehouse.su/ ? We mostly have math and science materials so far, and need to branch out. Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] food for thought...
://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] food for thought...
in education, I strongly disagree with both of the main opposing sides. Both the standard curriculum, and these guys, are way off IMO. Cheers, Alan From: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:47 AM Subject: [IAEP] food for thought... http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/opinion/how-to-fix-our-math-education.html?_r=1ref=opinion -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] food for thought...
On Thu, August 25, 2011 4:38 pm, Alan Kay wrote: Hi Walter As with a number of other issues in education, I strongly disagree with both of the main opposing sides. I just looked at the linked article. AH!! NO, MAKE IT STOP!! Both the standard curriculum, and these guys, are way off IMO. In the epistemology of Wolfgang Pauli, Not even wrong. Here is part of my idea. * http://replacingtextbooks.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/define-textbooks/ * http://replacingtextbooks.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/what-do-mathematicians-and-scientists-do-all-day/ Cheers, Alan So when are we going to get together, Alan, and make something useful for our millions of children? From: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:47 AM Subject: [IAEP] food for thought... http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/opinion/how-to-fix-our-math-education.html?_r=1ref=opinion -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Systems] Sugar Labs+OpenQwaq VM
On Tue, August 16, 2011 3:19 pm, Helsene, Adam wrote: John, Stefan, and myself had a meeting today on IRC in which we came up with a plan to deploy OpenQwaq. Thank you. I took a look, and I see vast potential for enhancing learning and global intelligence. Has anybody talked to governments running OLPC deployments about letting children use OpenQwaq? I believe that we need their input on security design before we deploy anything. See http://replacingtextbooks.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/one-censor-per-child/ We will be using a VM provided by Sugar Labs Infrastructure to have OpenQwaq installed on. Our hope is to have the OpenQwaq service properly in place before Sept 12th so it can connected to and used. Meeting minutes can be found at: http://meeting.treehouse.su/treehouse/meetings/2011-08-16T18:17:53.html --- Adam Helsene NDSU CS Systems Administrator -Original Message- From: Bernie Innocenti [mailto:ber...@sugarlabs.org] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:42 AM To: John Tierney Cc: Stefan Unterhauser; Helsene, Adam; Sugar Labs Systems; Chris Lindgren; Brooks, Kevin; Walter Bender; Brian Slator Subject: Re: [Systems] Sugar Labs+OpenQwaq VM On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 16:01 -0400, John Tierney wrote: I had a Skype call today with Adam, and Dr. Kevin Brooks Chair of English at NDSU and there is the need to meet and discuss the technical needs and how Adam can work with Sugar Labs infrastructure to put this platform in place so we can test with Educators. (Sugar Labs providing a virtual server to build on? Adam supplying a virtual appliance that Sugar Labs can run on it's infrastructure?) Greetings from Athens! As John said, I'll be traveling through Aug 17. (Then, I'll be even busier catching up with things at work). Usually Local Labs get a Mediawiki instance and email addresses. The latter can be in the form of a Google Apps instance or simply @sugarlabs.org aliases forwarding to personal email addresses. For anything else you may need, the Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team can provide virtual machines and managed hosting for common web applications, such as Drupal and Wordpress. If you don't intend to spend too much time on web presence, I recommend building a home page within our wiki and simply point nsdu.sugarlabs.org to it. For more information: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team/Resources -- Bernie Innocenti Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team ___ Systems mailing list syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Funding team?
On Fri, August 12, 2011 12:49 am, Chris Leonard wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:30 PM, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: I would like to propose that we create a funding team to pursue grant opportunities and partnerships for Sugar Labs, including Activity development, translation, documentation, teacher training materials, and digital content integrating software into lessons and explorations. To get things started, I have created a temporary page with some suggestions. There are lots more. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai/Funding We need people to gather and document opportunities; grant writers; and proposals for what to fund. Some people think that this is still a bad time to ask for money, but I hear that corporations are sitting on trillions of dollars of cash equivalents. Edward, The question I have is whether it is necessary to instantiate a new Team or whether to add this as a function / focus area within the Marketing Team. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team It is my impression that one of the major expenditures of a FOSS project is funding travel to events. The Marketing Team is already engaged in tracking Sugar relevant events as well as being centrally involved in the production of the sorts of materials that a fundraising group would require for applications and presentations to potential funders (e.g. media kits, etc.) That would be fine with me, if Marketing wants it. Anybody here from Marketing? However, I am concerned with funding Development, Localization, Translation, and possible contracts with governments for e-learning content, curriculum development, teacher training,... I am more concerned that we get people willing to follow up on commitments rather than with formal organization. So far, nobody has stepped up in reply to my suggestion, so this discussion is premature. On the theory that ten teams of nine people are better and more stable to turnover than thirty teams of three people, as well as being better equipped for surge capacity when needed, what would you think of the idea of developing your initiative(s) within the context of the Marketing Team umbrella instead as a separate effort. Obviously any effort representing Sugar Labs to funding sources (and committing Sugar Labs to the contractual conditions of such funding such as financial and other progress reporting and tracking requirements) would need close coordination with the Oversight Board and the SFC which would most likely act as the conduit through which funding would be channeled. Again, this is premature. Of course we will liaise with our partners as required, but right now there is nothing to liaise over. cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Funding team?
On Fri, August 12, 2011 9:41 pm, Sebastian Silva wrote: Earlier this year there was discussion about forming a Financial Team. I'm not sure exactly if a team is required, but formalizing mechanisms for projects like translations and content, research or development, to look for funds - sounds like an excellent idea. We (local labs) have been thinking and talking for a long time about a project bank where projects could be tracked in a platform for funding, as well as requirements and funding could be gathered in bounties or calls for proposals (the other way around). Exactly. I'm cc'in Laura who has been thinking about the design of such a system for a long time. ¡Hola! Laura. Por favor, ver http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai/Funding y díganos lo que piensas. Hay muchas oportunidades. What do you think? Maybe funding for developing such a platform is one of the first things to consider? It is hard to get funding to look for funding. Grantmakers want to see in advance what the proposed result of their grant for those in need is intended to be. I have in mind grants for Sugar development, for creating Open Education Resources to replace textbooks, for developing teacher training, and for localization and translation. In each of those cases we can state how many students will benefit now and can project the possibilities for the future. Translation to Spanish is one of the top priorities, in terms of numbers of children to be served. Replacing textbooks in Uruguay (starting to happen now) and Perú may rate as an even higher priority. I am planning to write to Software Freedom Conservancy, which handles donations to Sugar Labs, about how they handle fundraising projects. Their policy is to take care of administrivia and let the projects focus on development and rollout. It may be that it is more appropriate to build the platform there so that it can coordinate among all of the SFC projects. However, nothing will happen unless we get volunteers to seek out opportunities, and write the grant applications. I am assuming that given workers, we can get the board to hash out the policies. Regards, Sebastian El 12/08/11 08:30, moku...@earthtreasury.org escribió: I would like to propose that we create a funding team to pursue grant opportunities and partnerships for Sugar Labs, including Activity development, translation, documentation, teacher training materials, and digital content integrating software into lessons and explorations. To get things started, I have created a temporary page with some suggestions. There are lots more. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai/Funding We need people to gather and document opportunities; grant writers; and proposals for what to fund. Some people think that this is still a bad time to ask for money, but I hear that corporations are sitting on trillions of dollars of cash equivalents. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Funding team?
I would like to propose that we create a funding team to pursue grant opportunities and partnerships for Sugar Labs, including Activity development, translation, documentation, teacher training materials, and digital content integrating software into lessons and explorations. To get things started, I have created a temporary page with some suggestions. There are lots more. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai/Funding We need people to gather and document opportunities; grant writers; and proposals for what to fund. Some people think that this is still a bad time to ask for money, but I hear that corporations are sitting on trillions of dollars of cash equivalents. -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [Fwd: Invitation to participate - Open Learning Exchange]
FYI. Original Message Subject: Invitation to participate - Open Learning Exchange From:Richard R. Rowe, PhD i...@messages.amiando.com Date:Tue, August 9, 2011 7:17 pm To: moku...@earthtreasury.org -- A special invitation to participate in the 3rd Annual General Assembly of the Open Learning Exchange: Persuading to Scale: growing billions of great learners with powerful innovations Dear friends of the Open Learning Exchange: It is with great pleasure that I invite you to join us for our 3rd annual General Assembly entitled Persuading to Scale: growing billions of great learners with powerful innovations, from September 26th to the 29th, 2011 at the Universidad Iberoamericana in Mexico City. The evidence is clear that traditional education systems around the world are failing to meet the basic learning requirements of our children. Although thousands of learning innovations are being promoted across the globe today, even the most effective can be permanently sidelined by cultural differences, financial, technical, and political barriers. Our challenge then is to help public, private and community leaders bring to scale a mix of cost-effective learning innovations so all of our children can learn to create healthier and more sustainable societies in the 21st Century. OLE's 2011 General Assembly will tackle this challenge during an intensive, 4-day experience centered on the question of how to bring great learning innovations to scale. Brief trailers by accomplished educational innovators will stimulate focused round-table discussions along with informative poster sessions, skill-based workshops and self-organized meetings. Participants will emerge from the General Assembly with a greater understanding of what it takes to scale learning innovations, leaving with more skills to make those things happen. For additional information about the OLE General Assembly program and to register, please visit the following link: www.amiando.com/ole2011 http://www.amiando.com/ole2011 . You can also contact Peter Slate, Director of Program Development and Operations, at pe...@ole.org mailto:pe...@ole.org for more information. We are eager for you to share your skills and ideas with us and look forward to seeing you in Mexico City. Richard R. Rowe, Ph.D., Chair and CEO Open Learning Exchange, Inc. www.ole.org http://www.ole.org/ -- Persuading to Scale: growing billions of great learners with powerful innovations uses amiando - the no. 1 tool for online ticketing and online event registration. Sign up for free at http://www.amiando.com/index.html?viralRefId=ole2011utm_campaign=ev-ole2011utm_medium=viralutm_source=campaignEmailTextutm_content=footerLink -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks Title: Persuading to Scale: growing billions of great learners with powerful innovations A special invitation to participate in the 3rd Annual General Assembly of the Open Learning Exchange:Persuading to Scale: growing billions of great learners with powerful innovations Dear friends of the Open Learning Exchange: It is with great pleasure that I invite you to join us for our 3rd annual General Assembly entitled Persuading to Scale: growing billions of great learners with powerful innovations, from September 26th to the 29th, 2011 at theUniversidadIberoamericanain Mexico City. The evidence is clear that traditional education systems around the world are failing to meet the basic learning requirements of our children. Althoughthousands of learning innovations are being promoted across the globe today, even the most effective can be permanently sidelined by cultural differences, financial, technical, and political barriers. Our challenge then is to help public, private and community leaders bring to scale a mix of cost-effective learning innovations so all of our children can learn to create healthier and more sustainable societies in the 21st Century. OLE's 2011 General Assembly will tackle this challenge during an intensive, 4-day experiencecentered on the question of how to bring great learning innovations to scale. Brief trailers by accomplished educational innovators will stimulate focused round-table discussions along with informative poster sessions, skill-based workshops and self-organized meetings. Participants will emerge from the General Assembly with a greater understanding of what it takes to scale learning innovations, leaving with more skills to make those things happen
Re: [IAEP] Proposed New K-12 Science Framework
On Tue, July 26, 2011 1:21 am, Chris Leonard wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Since it has a total of 270 pages, and I just finished downloading it (chapter by chapter), I can't comment on the contents. But, this should be fuel for some interesting discussions in the next few weeks if the rest of you take the time to download and take an in depth look at what is there. You may need to create a login, but the full book as a single PDF is at this link. http://download.nap.edu/cart/download.cgi?record_id=13165free=1 Got it. Thanks. I was able to access it as a guest. I have only read the first few chapters of the report. It has a number of excellent features, such as * insistence on teaching how science is actually done * recognition that Children Are Born Investigators * the importance of connecting to children's prior experience and capacity for deep thought However, what I have read so far suggests important lacks in understanding of these very principles, along with other matters dealing with the nature of science, engineering, and technology. The greatest deficiency seems to be in treating of these topics in isolation from mathematics on one side and from social semisciences, particularly anthropology, economics, and politics, on the other. I will have more to say about this when I have gone through the whole document. cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Proposed New K-12 Science Framework
On Tue, July 26, 2011 9:15 pm, Jameson Quinn wrote: Now I am going to skip over to Chapter 10 where the nitty-gritty stuff seems to be. I'm talking about things like teacher training and student assessment. I hope they addressed the inadequacy of the standardized multiple choice test where students regurgitate memorized facts which they will promptly forget. We shall see! They couldn't go beyond the research, and research in better methods of evaluation is not as strong as it should be. Still, they clearly left a mandate for those who follow them to avoid purely fact-based testing, as that would undermine the whole point of their three-dimensional standards. I seem to know about research that they did not make use of. But I can't say for sure until I read more. The problem is very similar to the Turing test (modified to ask whether we are talking to a scientist in the making, rather than whether we are talking to a person), or to Wittgenstein's question in the Philosophical Investigations: How can you tell whether another person understands you? In the language of Foundations of Mathematics, the answer is that this is a fundamentally undecidable question in general. So we have to find tractable subsets of the general question. This can unfortunately leave us in the position of the man in the joke who lost his wallet in a dark part of a street, and was looking for it under a distant lamppost because he could see better there. Of course, all of science and engineering has this problem of looking in the few areas where we have lampposts for solutions to the mysteries of the darkness, and only occasionally putting up new lampposts. I think they did the best they could. Given that it was not their job to be the next Maria Montessori or Caleb Gattegno or Jaime Escalante of science, etc., teaching. But then, who is, other than themselves? ^_^ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [bytesforall_readers] Computing power to every home
like device which lets any regular desktop or laptop gain access to Nova Computing Services). The broadband charges have to be paid separately. Scalable model. The service has been able to reach a customer base of 40,000 users in the first half of 2010, from a user base of 150 in 2007. The service has delivered 1.2 million domestic usage days. Easy and convenient solution There are USB ports for peripherals and there is no need for a UPS system. In case of a power failure, there will be no data loss, since everything will be safe on the server. The device provided by Nova uses 5 watts of power. It doesnt have any moving parts, and is very rugged. Driving innovation in utility-based cloud computing solutions. Novatium has a total of 10 global patents. Two of the patents are titled Providing Utility Computing in a Cloud Computing Environment and DUDM (Desktop Utility Delivery Model). Currently ,the service is present in over 100 cities in India and it also has a presence in Mauritius and Thailand. On the anvil are plans to expand the service to other global markets as well. Reprinted with permission from IBEF (www.ibef.org) http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/computing-power-to-every-home/442197/ FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks -- Satish Jha T: 301 841 7422 F: 301 560 4909 -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Dr. Geo user manual
On Thu, July 28, 2011 6:50 am, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Hello Paolo, [snip] By the way, you did not tell me about my initial post: I am still looking for volunteers to help translating the DrGeo user manual. Into which languages? For Spanish, we (Sugar Labs and FLOSS Manuals) have just the people. Hilaire, meet Ana Cichero, our lead Spanish translator. Ana, here is another manual for your team. And don't tell me you aren't a programmer. After you read this book and do what it tells you, you will be. We can also help with other languages. Hilaire -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] DrGeo user manual
On Wed, July 27, 2011 5:47 am, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Hello, I have seen many use cases of DrGeo in Spanish speaking countries, in the South American continent, mainly for teachers training and Sugar based XO laptop. But still the new DrGeo user manual[1] is not yet translated to this language. In fact both English and Spanish are lacking. I wrote the manual first in French because I know how to write it right in this language, I do not want to write an average version in another language teachers and kids may refer to, it will give a bad perception of the quality of the software. I can do French to English, because I want to read and understand this material regardless. The new user manual explains several aspects of the new DrGeoII paradigm of living objects and the way to interact in live with the DrGeo model to write programmed sketch or to add script in a living sktech. Even if new, these paradigms are old Smalltalk model found in the '70. Some other geometry software are implementing slowly these paradigms, but given their background language it is not as simple, clean and lean. Anyway I am looking for volunteers to translate the user manual. The sources is in LaTeX forms[2]. I have not planed to move it to a wiki, as I want the source of the manual to stick to LaTeX for optimal quality in both PDF and HTML[3]. I can handle TeX and LaTeX. Hilaire [1] http://documentation.ofset.org/drgeo2/fr [2] https://gforge.inria.fr/scm/viewvc.php/drgeo2/doc/?root=istoa [3] Or does someone knows reliable solution for online editing with LaTeX quality rendering to PDF or HTML? Please look at the booki servers at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ (Manuals for Free Software) and http://booki.treehouse.su/ (Sugar Labs program for Replacing Textbooks). The booki software was designed to produce high quality PDF and HTML output, among others, with collaborative online editing and support for translation work. I have participated in several book sprints with FLOSS Manuals, producing a book in a week or less. We would have to run some tests, I think, on formulas and graphic formats. You would also be welcome to join that discussion on the FLOSS Manuals FM-Discuss mailing list at http://lists.flossmanuals.net/ . I'm copying this message there. -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [squeakland] Alan's Talk on Programming and Scaling at HPI now available online
On Wed, July 27, 2011 2:55 pm, Carlos Rabassa wrote: Rita, Steve, thanks for calling this talk and link to our attention, we found it extremely interesting. Wonderful stuff. All the concepts Alan explains left us thinking. His clear explanations add to the shock of thinking of these ideas for the first time. It is like when we learn about a good new invention, we think this is a great idea but, how come I never thought of this before? Of course! I [Watson] cried. How obvious! Everything is obvious when once it has been _explained_ to you, returned Holmes, a trace of asperity in his voice. [Emphasis added.] We thought it was very nice to thank all those individuals that helped him in developing his ideas. I guess it is true there are many potential geniuses who are missing the cooperation of those developers and never see their great ideas materialize. We found it a nice and generous gesture on the part of Alan. Needless to say it was nice to see people we know and appreciate like Bert and Yoshiki, receive this well deserved recognition. If I have seen farther than others, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants.--Isaac Newton Of course, this does not work for everyone. One must at least be able to climb the giant. If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants.--Possibly from Usenet, source unknown. Another point that stuck to our mind was the idea of erasing the present to plan for the future. This, Alan claims, forces us to look all over the past to find ideas to develop the future. Last November, at Plan Ceibal´s year end conference, one of the speakers shocked us bringing examples of teaching in the past, like the artisans and their pupils a few hundreds of years ago, as examples of good education that we can implement today thanks to computers. We do not have to look only to the past. The Maasai of Kenya have a traditional education system that turns their boys into experts on soils, weather, native plants and animals, their traditional hunting and fighting weapons, strategies, and tactics, and much more, and also into Olympic-level athletes. Girls learn in equal detail building, animal husbandry and other subjects important to their traditional cultural roles. There are also problems within this system, but one cannot simply impose a European education on people who need to understand their environment much more directly and in great detail, and do not need training as shop clerks and industrial workers. The Andaman Islanders were the only ones in the coastal areas around the Indian Ocean who reportedly lost nobody in the Indonesian tsunami, because they were the only ones who passed down the story that when the ocean went away, everybody was to run for high ground before it came roaring back. All of the colonial education systems and their post-colonial successors around the Indian Ocean have gone to a great deal of trouble to root out such old wives' tales. Most ideas we hear today about how to use computers in schools are the same teaching systems we already have in place, just scaled up to handle large numbers of students. It has been much worse than that. Suppose we had print literacy labs, where we kept all of the books, pencils, and paper, and allowed children in once a week, but never allowed them to apply what they learned there to either classwork or homework, and suppose in addition that most of them had none of these things at home. In Uruguay, Peru, and other countries that are planning to give a computer to every child, education will be transformed far beyond any of the plans of the governments, school administrations, teachers' unions, or anyone else. Nobody saw in Gutenberg's first press the proliferation of editions of the classics, Bible translations into hundreds of languages (now more than 2,000, in whole or in part), novels, scholarly journals, newspapers, magazines, and all the rest. Hardly anybody foresaw the Web until it happened. Likewise with e-commerce, social networks, Wikipedia, and all of the rest. If you want to make God laugh, tell Her your plans.--Modern proverb Life is what happens while you were making other plans.--Another modern proverb Carlos Rabassa Volunteer Plan Ceibal Support Network Montevideo, Uruguay On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Steve Thomas wrote: Alan Kay's Talks Programming and Scaling is now available online at: http://www.tele-task.de/de/archive/lecture/overview/5819/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ squeakland mailing list squeakl...@squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583
Re: [IAEP] Advertising Sugar
On Tue, July 26, 2011 11:05 am, Rita Freudenberg wrote: Hi, if I want to advertize Sugar, is there any material that can be used? I've translated the Sugar Manual into German, and there are some nice text passages. But maybe there is more? Would it be ok to translate this into German, too? It will be used to impress decision makers ...:) You can use the Replacing Textbooks page, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks the OLPC Deployments page, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments some of the study results that the OLPC Research page points to. Ethiopia is one of the best for this purpose. There should be some good results from Uruguay and Peru, too, but I haven't been following them. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_research Greetings, Rita ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation (was Re: Material for XO math+literacy project in Kenya)
On Thu, July 21, 2011 11:50 pm, Chris Leonard wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:25 PM, ana.cichero ana.cich...@gmail.com wrote: a) Yes. I can help translating your tutorials for Turtle. When I don't understand I ask. Ana, There are Mathematics tutorials using eToys that have been developed by Waveplace that need translation into Spanish. Second the motion. These are excellent materials, the best I have seen for Smalltalk/Etoys. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team/Pootle_Projects#Waveplace_Lessons PO files are here: http://translate.sugarlabs.org/es/Waveplace/ http://wiki.waveplace.org/display/wp/Geometry+%28*%29 eToys is itself a wonderful introduction to programming concepts, you might find it interesting and you can work through the Basic eToys tutorial to get oriented. I would go further, and recommend these tutorials to everyone involved with OLPC and Sugar. I am experienced in a number of programming languages, but was having trouble with Etoys until I viewed some of these tutorials. Smalltalk was designed for children to be able to use, but with sufficient power to be useful lifelong. It is at the heart of our mission. However, it was not designed to be learned with no help at all. ^_^ (See The Undiscoverable on the Sugar Labs Wiki.) cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [bytesforall_readers] Computing power to every home
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Re: [IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation
On Thu, July 21, 2011 11:25 pm, ana.cichero wrote: Hello Mokurai Would you take a look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Tutorials, and talk with us, the Spanish translators, and the teachers about a) translating these pages into Spanish b) what is needed so that teachers can use these ideas in class I find the link empty... I'm sorry. It should have been http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials a) Yes. I can help translating your tutorials for Turtle (please send me the exact link) . When I don t understand I ask. Thank you. b) No. Unfortunately I cannot make class planifications on the subject. I did not make myself clear then. I meant that I would like someone to ask teachers who do work on teaching Turtle Art and other subjects whether my tutorials make sense to them, and whether they can assist us in making lesson plans on these subjects. My offer for fitting in uruguayan secondary school curricular structure planifications of classes using Abacus.xo still stands. Thank you. I will create a TA program to draw an abacus and demonstrate its operations, and then move from there to Abacus.xo. --I ve studied maths and learning for 4 full years exclusively and been working on highschools for the last 10 years, teaching from negative numbers to matrixes and integrals, but I am just an newbie when going into programming languages... sorry.-- Perfect. Please look at You Be the Turtle and at Mathematics and Art, an introduction to TA. These assume no knowledge of Turtle Art whatsoever. Do they make sense to you? Then we can talk about lessons in the basics of Turtle Art that I need to write. My tutorials combine a high-level look at a topic, ideas for introducing some part of it to children as early as possible, and a Turtle Art demonstration of some part of the idea. Each idea needs expansion to lesson plans, with feedback from classrooms and individual tutoring on how they work and how they need to be improved. Each idea also needs implementation in Logo (which we can get by automatic translation from TA), Python, Smalltalk/Etoys, GeoGebra, and other software. On top of all that, we need to create a usable sequence of ideas and examples leading from no computer (You Be the Turtle tutorial), through introducing TA (Mathematics and Art tutorial), through the essential concepts and techniques of programming and Computer Science, to competence in Python, Logo, Smalltalk, and any other language of interest. Ana. -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Wiki tutorial translation (was Re: Material for XO math+literacy project in Kenya)
On Thu, July 21, 2011 12:52 am, ana.cichero wrote: [praise of Abacus activity snipped] Count me in for translating the wiki or for making some class planification that fits with schooling structure, it can be for 1st year of secondary as I worked with in 2010 for example. Would you take a look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Tutorials, and talk with us, the Spanish translators, and the teachers about a) translating these pages into Spanish b) what is needed so that teachers can use these ideas in class My tutorials combine a high-level look at a topic, ideas for introducing some part of it to children as early as possible, and a Turtle Art demonstration of some part of the idea. Each idea needs expansion to lesson plans, with feedback from classrooms and individual tutoring on how they work and how they need to be improved. Each idea also needs implementation in Logo (which we can get by automatic translation from TA), Python, Smalltalk/Etoys, GeoGebra, and other software. On top of all that, we need to create a usable sequence of ideas and examples leading from no computer (You Be the Turtle tutorial), through introducing TA (Mathematics and Art tutorial), through the essential concepts and techniques of programming and Computer Science, to competence in Python, Logo, Smalltalk, and any other language of interest. Ana. ps. Working among early grades students is harder and it less payed-- because traditionally upper grade studying needed society stimulation. In uruguay 2ndary teachers is a strictly ordered set ( 19 lists, one for each region) , and in that order is invited to choose --every year--- the grade and the school to work. Nobody wants to work with early years of public highschool having other choice... (system could help education a lot with some really little changes, but as little changes don t make political issues, nobody promotes them) In computer programming, making many little improvements is known as refactoring. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44936.Refactoring Each refactoring step is simple-seemingly too simple to be worth doing. Refactoring may involve moving a field from one class to another, or pulling some code out of a method to turn it into its own method, or even pushing some code up or down a hierarchy. While these individual steps may seem elementary, the cumulative effect of such small changes can radically improve the design. Refactoring is a proven way to prevent software decay. The payoff is huge. We must find incentives to work on it. Perhaps for some teachers, being able to affect the design of the teaching may be a useful incentive. I know that in the profession generally, the biggest incentive available is the possibility of teaching effectively. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Complex arithmetic (was Re: Looking for Concrete Fraction Experiences)
On Thu, July 14, 2011 9:46 am, David Corking wrote: (Aspiring electrical technicians will probably also want to extend the concept to complex numbers.) Addition and subtraction of complex numbers are easier in rectangular coordinates than polar coordinates. Multiplication and division are the opposite. a + bi + c +di = (a + c) + (b + d)i 1/(r,theta) = (1/r, -theta) But it can be done, of course. 1/(a + bi) = (a - bi)/(a^2 + b^2) (a + bi)/(c + di) = (a + bi)(c - di)/(c^2 + d^2) = ((ac + bd) +(bc - ad)i/(c^2 + d^2) I should do these up in Turtle Art, both as illustrations of coordinate systems and as arithmetic, and add them to my Tutorials. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials#Mokurai.27s_Tutorials Thanks for your patience. David -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Looking for Concrete Fraction Experiences
On Thu, July 14, 2011 8:40 am, Maria Droujkova wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:38 AM, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: Special bonus points for anyone who can come up with an example of division with fractions (ex: 1/3 divided by 1/2) [Mokurai wrote] 1/2 goes into 1 twice. When the divisor OR the quotient are whole, people do use fraction division in life. Many people will conceptualize How many halves are there in three pizzas? or even How many quarters are there in three halves? (the last one is a stretch) as division. However, after messing with fraction division for about a year (see http://naturalmath.wikispaces.com/Divide+a+fraction+by+a+fraction ) I believe people who don't have PURE MATH purposes avoid conceptualizing division of a fraction by a fraction, when it's not immediately clear the result is a whole number. Instead, they conceptualize it as TWO operations (multiplication and division) where at least one number is whole. The pure math purposes have to do with extensions of operations. and providing consistent rules for them, maintaining algebraic identities such as commutativity, associativity and distributivity. ab = ba (ab)c = a(bc) a(b + c) = ab + ac etc. In mathematics, figuring out how to make (a matter of definition, not discovery) operations work for all types of numbers and even non-number entities is a very strong value. Although non-commutative (matrices) and even non-associative (octonions) structures are of great importance. As such, we want to subtract greater numbers from smaller ones, take square roots of negatives, and multiply anything whatsoever (zeros, ordered arrays, transformations, etc.) This extension value definitely trumps any muggle values such as cognitive accessibility or ease of calculation. There are strong mathematical reasons for holding the extension value dear. We just have to realize these reasons don't necessarily apply to eating pizzas, or even to math-rich professional practices such as nursing (let me know if you want Proportional Reasoning in Nursing Practice study). [Mokurai again] In fact it goes into any whole number N by dividing N objects into 2 pieces each, giving 2N pieces. Similarly, it goes into 1/3 twice 1/3 There - you conceptualize it through whole-number steps. in order to arrive at the general rule, which we can then extend to fractions. These steps are entirely sufficient for dividing pizzas. Fractions are completely equivalent to whole numbers of equal-sized pieces. It makes no difference to the result whether we use 3/8 or talk about 3 pieces of 1/8 each. But I would like to lead children through the two-step process to the algebraic rules, particularly (a/b)/(c/d) = ad/bc without going through (a/b)/(c/d) = (ad/b)/c in between. You only need to re-conceptualize these steps (at a significant cognitive cost, as my teaching experiments indicate, if you go beyond the example of 1/2) as division by a fraction if you are going for the mathematical value of figuring how fraction division works. Well, that's what I want to find out. Are we making the individual steps sufficiently simple so that they can become obvious? What kind of practice is required to make them obvious? The most complicated mathematics is made up from steps so simple and obvious that even an utterly stupid computer can cope with them. Children can actually understand them, and put them together into more complicated ideas that become equally obvious over time. It's just like learning language, which starts with memorization of words and patterns, and soon becomes habit with sufficient practice. Only the children can tell us how much practice is sufficient, and what kinds. There are no utilitarian or artistic purposes, that I could find in more than a year of looking for them, in conceptualizing the separate steps as division by a fraction. Not in most of ordinary daily life, as opposed to work in engineering, science, statistics, and such. But it does turn up occasionally in cooking, sewing, carpentry and a few other areas. * If my pancake recipe calls for 1 3/4 cups of flour, and I only have 1 1/4 cups on hand, how much egg, milk, blueberries, and so on should I add to make a partial batch? Well, obviously I should multiply every measurement in the recipe by (1 1/4)/(1 3/4). Multiplying top and bottom by the denominator of the two fractions (4) gives 5/7. * If it takes 2 3/4 yards of cloth to make this item, how many can I make from a bolt of cloth 20 yards long? In practice, nurses, pizza cooks, carpenters and so on don't really divide by fractions - they work with numerators and denominators separately. I would suggest exploring reasons behind the math value of stretching operations, for example, talking about how inefficient it would be to program operations separately for different types of variables. But we have to do that anyway. Computer processors are built with separate integer
[IAEP] Thailand to revive 1-1 computing
Has anybody heard about this, or have any idea what hardware they might be talking about? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1765816.html Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra tried to put in an OLPC program for Thailand before he was ousted in a coup. His sister Yingluck Shinawatra and their political party have recently won a landslide election victory in Thailand, and this article lists some of her promises. This one is directly relevant to us. FREE TABLET PCS - The new government has promised free tablet computers for about 800,000 new school children each year for six years beginning in January. Puea Thai says these would cost between 3,000 and 5,000 baht ($100 to $160) each and operate with open-source software, possibly from India or China. NOTE: Olarn Chaipravat, a senior figure in Puea Thai's economic team, told Reuters the project would cost about 4 billion baht ($131 million) a year. The idea has divided educators with some saying it will do more harm than good. The project is a continuation of the One Laptop Per Child project (OLPC) adopted by Yingluck's brother, Thaksin, but scrapped when he was ousted in a 2006 coup. -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Looking for Concrete Fraction Experiences
On Tue, July 12, 2011 11:23 pm, Steve Thomas wrote: Looking for ideas on how we can give kids (and adults) concrete experiences with the concept of fraction. You do not have to *give* them such experiences. You need to draw attention to the experiences they have had all their lives. You do eat slices of pie, cake, and pizza, and chocolate bars marked for breaking, I trust. You use coins, and can get dollar coins, half dollars, quarters, tenths, twentieths, and hundredths. You can talk about the divisions of hours, minutes, seconds, yards, feet, inches, meters, decimeters, centimeters, gallons, quarts, pints, cups, fluid ounces, tablespoons, teaspoons, liters, milliliters, pounds, ounces, kilograms, grams... Special bonus points for anyone who can come up with an example of division with fractions (ex: 1/3 divided by 1/2) 1/2 goes into 1 twice. In fact it goes into any whole number N by dividing N objects into 2 pieces each, giving 2N pieces. Similarly, it goes into 1/3 twice 1/3, or 2/3. If you divide a circle into sixths, you can easily see that a third of the circle (two pieces) is two-thirds of half the circle (three pieces), in just the same way that, for example, two beads is 1/4 of eight beads. It has been done in detail, and is available on various OER sites, some of which are given at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Open_Education_Resources I have written about this on other mailing lists. I will do a Turtle Art version of this some time soon, after I do a bit more on the concept I have been working on most recently, figurate numbers. I have several such lessons at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials#Mokurai.27s_Tutorials Tony Forster did a TA visualization for fractions that I plan to carry further. http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/12/turtle-fractions.html Others are welcome to join with Tony and me. So here is the outline. You will have to take this more slowly with children, of course. * Cut a pie in pieces, and color some of the pieces, as Tony did. That gives the basic idea of a fraction. Point out that when you cut a pie in, say, 8 pieces, you are doing 1 divided by 1/8. * Cut more than one pie in the same number of pieces each. This lets us talk about improper fractions and mixed fractions (integer plus fraction), and converting between them. We can also introduce rational numbers at some stage of child development. * Cut a pie in pieces, and cut the pieces into smaller pieces (multiplication of the simplest fractions, such as 1/2 times 1/3). Some fractions can be described using the bigger pieces, and some require the smaller pieces. Talk about reducing fractions to lowest terms. (You will need other materials in order to talk about Greatest Common Divisors. I'll do something on that.) Take some time on multiplying fractions. Then notice that, for example, if you divide a pie into sixths, three of the pieces make a half. 3 times 1/6 is 1/2, so 1/2 divided by 3 is 1/6, and 1/2 (= 3/6) divided by 1/6 is 3. (Assuming prior understanding that if the product of, say, 2 and 3 is 6, then 6/3 = 2 and 6/2 = 3.) * Cut several pies. For example, cut two pies into three pieces each, and then color pairs of pieces. How many groups of two pieces make two pies? Congratulations, you have just divided 2 by 2/3. * Work other examples, dividing whole numbers by fractions, then fractions by other fractions, choosing cases that come out even to start with. * Now look at examples where one fraction does not go evenly into the other. What do you have to do to make sense of the remainder? Say you have a pizza cut into 8 pieces, and you have hungry pizza eaters who want three slices each. How many can you accommodate? Well, two, with two slices left over. Two slices is 2/3 of three slices, so that comes to 2 2/3 portions. None of this requires Turtle Art. You can cut pies or cakes, or pieces of construction paper to do all of this. Oh, yes. How many pieces do the local pizza parlors cut pizzas into? What fractions can you make from those pieces? Can you find pictures of pizzas from directly above, so that they appear as circles? (Yes.) What else? Craters on the moon? The whole moon? Circular swimming pools, fountains, ponds? It remains an open question whether the children will discover the invert-and-multiply rule for dividing fractions by themselves, whether they will need broad hints, or whether they will have to be told. It would be interesting to me to hear how they would explain these ideas to each other. I will be interested to hear your results. Thanks, Stephen ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin
Re: [IAEP] Licitación Ceibal
On Tue, July 5, 2011 10:47 am, Gabriel Eirea wrote: Yamandú: (English tl;dr: don't bother with this call for bids, it's not for us.) The sections of the RFP quoted below refer to the national education management system, which requires professional management to meet the stated reliability requirements. Digital e-learning resources do not come under these same requirements. Entiendo y aplaudo tu empuje para tratar de entrar en esta licitación. Sin embargo, en mi opinión es un esfuerzo inútil porque no hay forma que en este momento un colectivo como el nuestro pueda siquiera presentarse a este llamado. En la página 22 dice: Criterios de Calificación Criterios de cumplimiento obligatorio Empresas que acrediten tres (3) años de actividad económica y demuestren fehacientemente la comercialización del producto ofrecido. A estos efectos aportarán las referencias que avalen esta condición, pudiendo el solicitante recabar, cuando lo creyere necesario, información adicional a este respecto. Contar con experiencias de implementación de los productos presentados, debiendo presentar la información de la siguiente manera: (i) nivel de masividad del despliegue (ii) países en donde se ha implementado (ii) tiempo de desarrollo que tiene el mismo y en la página 58 dice: El valor del pliego es de U$S 2000. En otras palabras, una vez más el liderazgo de Ceibal demuestra que no le interesa incluir desarrollos comunitarios, ni siquiera de pequeñas empresas locales, asumiendo que la compra de soluciones llave en mano es la mejor estrategia cuando en realidad está comprometiendo la sustentabilidad del proyecto. Pero mientras exista la plata dulce del BID que paga el pueblo uruguayo, estas cosas seguirán pasando. Saludos, Gabriel 2011/7/3 Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com: Puse unas cuantas ideas respecto a la licitación en el wiki. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LLSCeibal_2011 Por favor, métanle mano. Plazos corren! SI armamos algo o si nos ponemos como para apoyara a alguien, es hasta el 29 de julio Yamandú ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Does anybody know what this announcement means? Did they merely put the page up before it was ready? http://education.gov.vc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=125Itemid=107 Intorduction [sic] Welcome to the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) Initiative of the Ministry of Education, Government of St. Vincent and the Grenadines. We are pleased to present you with important information to get you started in the programme. = There is a link for it on the main title bar of the site, indicating that it is considered to be very important, but none of the subjects on the page has a link, and neither a site search nor a more general Google search turned up anything else. -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Samsung Windfall: All of South Korea's Textbooks to Go Digital by 2015
On Sun, July 3, 2011 9:26 am, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: By 2014, all of South Korea's elementary-level educational materials will be digitized, and by 2015, the entire school-age curriculum will be delivered on an array of computers, smart phones and tablets. While the country's education ministry is yet to announce the make or model of the devices it will purchase, it has revealed it will spend $2.4 billion buying the requisite tablets and digitizing material for them. http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/26960/?ref=rss Does OLPC South Korea exist already? :-) #47932;#47200;#51080;#52236;! (I was in the Peace Corps in South Korea.) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Korea (mostly in Korean) There has been strong individual interest, but I haven't heard of the government doing anything with OLPC. Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Edu-sig] Python and pre-algebra
of the weirder ones is my Turtle Art Turing Machine for addition. ^_^ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials/Turtle_Art_Turing_Machine More directly to your needs, Pippy is a Sugar activity that shows a number of Python examples that students can edit. For example, Fibonacci a, b = 0, 1 while b 1001: print b, a, b = b, a+b Changing the 0, 1 in the first line changes this from a generator of Fibonacci numbers to a generator of the related Lucas numbers. There is a Pascal's Triangle program. Plotted mod 2, it reveals a Sierpinski fractal. Generator also has a technical meaning in Python, such that one might actually write a Fibonacci generator (of the GeneratorType). Relevant Python resources include NumPy and PyGame. Or, perhaps, the program controls a wheelchair robot and students would write scripts to drive the robot at a certain speed considering the slope of a ramp? See the Etoys tutorial challenge for programming a car, and the robot program in Uruguay with robots controlled by Sugar software. Alan Kay was at that Shuttleworth meeting in Kensington. I'm sure there've been many follow-up meetings which I've not been privy to, plus I've continued to meet with Oregon-based colleagues. I met Alan Kay at the 40th anniversary of Doug Engelbart's Mother of All Demos at Stanford. I had met Doug previously, and was apparently the first to show him an XO. I also work with an outfit in Sonoma County, where Python is concerned. http://www.flickr.com/photos/christophd/4827926508/ XO turned into a robot thanks to the Butiá project As you can see, I am a novice, but I see great potential and am willing to learn. Delighted to meet you. Ed writes a lot of good posts on many a math-related list. I recommend paying attention to his thinking (I know I do). Thanks, Kirby. Kirby ___ Edu-sig mailing list edu-...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ Edu-sig mailing list edu-...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Update on the Sugar Labs website refresh
On Thu, June 30, 2011 7:11 am, Sean DALY wrote: Many thanks Christian for this update Yes I too saw that although Walter (the Sugar Digest [1]), myself (on the lists [2] plus the olpcnews piece [3]), John (on the lists [4]), JT Mike (on the lists [5]) all asked for content, there was little or no reaction. I believe we need to ask more concretely, i.e. for the X page we need a Y visual - even if this means a list of requests. As described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_pictures I can't help but feel that the day the new site goes live there will be complaints, while assistance now will make the site the best it can be! I have reached a point where I can start posting content to the Wiki regularly, starting with educational topics in Turtle Art. My list is below Tony Forster's at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Tutorials I have begun at opposite ends of the spectrum, with preschool Turtle Art (You Be the Turtle) and a Turtle Art Turing Machine with Logo translation. We need the same kind of information here on Smalltalk/Etoys resources. As part of the Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks program, various of us are working on responses to the Plain Ceibal RFP for up to 1,000 digital educational resources. English translation of requirements section of Licitación linked at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks#Plan_Ceibal_project We will post on whatever we decide to propose. Replacing Textbooks has a list of sources of free educational resources, with well over 100,000 items in pages it links to. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Open_Education_Resources We will be recruiting teachers, subject-matter experts, and translators for all of this. Another next step is to assemble a teacher panel to assess the site usability. And for many other purposes. We need teachers from all target countries, too, and in addition we should ask children what issues they have in using our site and our documentation. The Marketlab study [6] clearly showed that teachers are not finding the information they need on our current sites, and coupled with the high technical barriers to installing and configuring Sugar means we discourage too many teachers from even trying Activities. Teachers, contact us please to participate in the panel! As a former professional technical writer, I can point out a number of ways to improve the site, in terms of navigation, accessibility, audiences, and more. thanks Sean 1. http://walterbender.org/?p=431 2. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2011-March/012783.html 3. http://www.olpcnews.com/software/sugar/teachers_help_us_improve_the_sugarlabs_website.html 4. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2011-April/012959.html 5. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2011-April/012843.html, http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/dextrose/2011-April/001234.html 6. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team#MIT_Sloan_MarketLab_Study On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt anyth...@christianmarcschmidt.com wrote: Hi everyone, John and I wanted to give you a brief update on the status of the website. For the last few months we had the benefit of working with two RIT students, JT and Mike, who helped us take initial steps in launching a new and improved public-facing website. With their help, we identified the shortcomings of the current site and the opportunities for (a) better articulating the Sugar value proposition and (b) keeping the site current with events and progress made by the developer community. There were a few learnings along the way: While JT and Mike were able to gather and produce a fair number of assets, it was far more difficult to get all the content we had hoped for and which we know does exist. This means that we will be reaching out to the community again in a short while to help us fill in the missing pieces. In the meantime, thank you to all of you who helped to provide content in the first round! Next steps are to make further traction on the UI design in order to give us a scaffold to populate with content as it comes in. This will be happening over the next few weeks, and we'll keep all of you updated when there are opportunities for feedback. Thanks, and more to come, Christian -- anyth...@christianmarcschmidt.com 917/ 575 0013 http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com http://www.facebook.com/christianmarcschmidt http://www.linkedin.com/in/christianmarcschmidt http://twitter.com/cms_ Skype: christianmarcschmidt ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name
Re: [IAEP] Sugar minimum set
On Wed, June 29, 2011 2:29 pm, Valerie Taylor wrote: Is there a minimum set of Sugar teacher/tutor training, hardware and software that could be implemented by a community supported remedial program that works with kids outside regular elementary school? Is this something that could be considered and/or suggested? That is a whole set of questions bundled up into one. XOs and their Sugar distributions are the minimum standard set. The maximum is whatever is currently on Activities.sugarlabs.org. You can buy individual used XOs on eBay for about $150 each. If some NGO would be willing to buy 10,000 units and make them available in smaller quantities to other NGOs, we could talk about all sorts of programs. Prices would likely be in the $200-$250 range. The initial investment would be about $2 million up front, with delivery date to be determined later. Nobody has so far been willing to operate on those terms. A local program provides small group time as their primary learning activities and has some computers that they use already. Most of the software is the usual proprietary kids educational products. Their regular program would lend itself to including basic Sugar Labs Activities. Sugar on a Stick Are there guidelines for when Sugar Labs Activities can be beneficial even if it isn't possible or practical to provide the all-inclusive OLPC environment? Always. ^_^ In this case, the computers could probably loaded with Linux and Sugar, and would be stand-alone (without a classroom or school server). I don't know if the machines are networked so that groups and neighborhoods could be available. Any of the above. Is anyone doing this now? Does Sugar Labs encourage this? What is a minimum setup that could be considered? What are the gotcha's for doing something like this? Various NGOs have various programs around XOs and Sugar in other forms. Sugar Labs encourages this. Sugar on a Stick There are some technical issues. SoaS is not easy enough to create. It does not work on every computer. Therefore preplanning and testing is necessary. Mostly, the issue is that prospective teachers do not have enough guidance on how to use Sugar effectively. That is one of the targets for the Replacing Textbooks program. Of course, you can buy pre-recorded SoaS USB units, although I don't know which versions of SoaS are available. To replace textbooks, is there a strategy for moving to wider use of Sugar as part of the process? Of course. The idea is to integrate Sugar into every topic where it is practical in every subject. That is the equivalent of more than 100 textbooks, with more than 10,000 topics. Thanks ..Valerie ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs: account confirmation
On Wed, June 29, 2011 9:01 pm, Walter Bender wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Valerie Taylor vtay...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Walter Can you log into Moodle? If you are an administrator, you can make other teachers and/or administrators. I can log in and I am an administrator, so I should be able to hand out credentials to others. What is the objective of these Moodle courses? Were they created for specific audiences? Would it be ok if others who are interested in Sugar access them? I'll bring it up with the oversight board, but I think we should only host projects that are available to anyone. I was a bit mystified by the language on the home page. But I suppose we better ask each author if that was their intention. I would like to copy resources under suitable Creative Commons licenses to the Replacing Textbooks server. I have some experience with Moodle. I would be happy to help. Much appreciated. -walter ..Valerie On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: The welcome discussion post was added by David Farning and edited by Walter Bender so you could try talking to them about who is managing the http://schools.sugarlabs.org/ Moodle site. I think this resource is probably under utilised and probably not well publicised. I think I have admin privileges, so I am happy to help. I don't know much about how Moodle works, so I'll need some guidance. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [Fwd: Daily updates in Group Teachers Without Borders]
FYI. I will see whether these are suitable for the Replacing Textbooks program. Original Message Subject: Daily updates in Group Teachers Without Borders From:Teachers Without Borders no-re...@diigo.com Date:Tue, June 28, 2011 7:42 am To: moku...@earthtreasury.org -- Teachers Without Borders 3 new Items See More raquo; Peace and Non-Violence Curriculum - MINCAVA Electronic Clearinghouse peace_education shared by stephknox24 27 Jun 11 09:32:12 - Comment - Like stephknox24 27 Jun 11 09:32:12 Peace and Nonviolence Curriculum for Grades 1-6 from the Minnesota Center Against Violence and Abuse Promoting Tolerance and Peace in Children peace_education shared by stephknox24 27 Jun 11 09:26:45 - Comment - Like stephknox24 27 Jun 11 09:26:45 National Association of School Psychologists' resources for promoting peace and tolerance and children, at home, at school, and in life Zinn Education Project resources,history,peace_education shared by stephknox24 27 Jun 11 04:40:12 - Comment - Like stephknox24 27 Jun 11 04:40:12 history resources from Howard Zinn You received this message because you are a member of the group Teachers Without Borders at Diigo.com. Your alert setting indicates that new additions to this group should be sent to you Daily. Click to change your email alert preference to: Immediately, Weekly , Not subscribed -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [squeakland] Expresándonos con Etoys / Expressing ourselves with Etoy s
funcionan estas ruedas cuadradas. El secreto está en hacerlas rodar sobre caminos ondulados. Este proyecto Etoys muestra cómo construir un camino ondulado adecuado, agregando material, que se muestra en púrpura, sobre la superficie lisa del camino original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gDMPYPrxmY El video también muestra los únicos guiones requeridos para hacer que la rueda cuadrada ruede sobre el camino mientras que el vehículo, representado por la línea verde, se mantiene horizontal y a altura constante. Estos son algunos vehículos con ruedas cuadradas: Auto de 4 ruedas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgvjTDgFxM Bicicleta de 2 ruedas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hs1wcvhguM Triciclo con 3 ruedas de tamaños diferentes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUbkzfJGp4NR=1 English text starts here A few days ago we read about square-wheeled vehicles. They offer smooth rides, without tilting. We used Etoys to understand and explain how this square wheels work. The secret is to roll them on undulated roads. This Etoys project shows how to build a road with the adequate undulation, by adding material, shown in purple, on the flat origianl surface of the road: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gDMPYPrxmY The video also shows all the scripts required to make the square wheel roll over the road while the vehicle´s body, represented by the green line, stays horizontal and always at the same height. These are some square wheeled vehicles: 4-wheel car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgvjTDgFxM 2-wheel bicycle model http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hs1wcvhguM 3-wheel tricycles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUbkzfJGp4NR=1 Carlos Rabassa Voluntario Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal Montevideo, Uruguay -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [Fwd: Re: Call for bids, Educational platform, curricular content for CEIBAL]
: www.olpcnews.com http://www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com mailto:christ...@olpcnews.com ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Fwd: Re: Call for bids, Educational platform, curricular content for CEIBAL]
sección de los contenidos educativos esta bastante amplio. Si lo entiendo bien en Rwanda habÃan requisitos de certificación segun un estandard educativo pero no veo nada de esto en esta licitación uruguaya. En todo caso será interesante ver los resultados de este proceso... :-) Saludos, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com http://www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com mailto:christ...@olpcnews.com ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Call for bids, Educational platform, curricular content for CEIBAL
On Fri, June 24, 2011 10:03 am, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: $48 G in IADB funds, $114 G total page 18 has the abstract, and pp. 34-37 details on the actual stuff they are looking for. The rest is lawyerly fluff, so beware... This is exactly what the Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks program is about. Obviously Sugar Labs cannot do it alone, but if we can find appropriate partners, would you two, Yama and Christoph, want to work on it? Anybody else? Esto es exactamente lo que el programa de Remplazando los libros de texto de Sugar Labs se trata. Obviamente Sugar Labs no puede hacerlo solo, pero si podemos encontrar los socios adecuados, lo haría con dos, Yama y Christoph, quiere trabajar en él? ¿Alguien más? On 06/16/2011 04:53 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: 2011/6/16 nanon...@mediagala.com mailto:nanon...@mediagala.com /Christoph Derndorfer wrote: vi que Plan Ceibal anunció una licitación para Plataforma Educativa on line... -/ Hola, Christoph: No soy experto en Licitaciones, ni tampoco en Plataformas Educativas, en lo único que te puedo ayudar es en pasarte un pequeño resumen de lo que pide dicha licitación. De las 59 páginas de la Licitación http://ceibal.org.uy/docs/Licitacion-152-2011-Pliego-%20Condiciones-Plataforma.pdf te lo acorté a 12 páginas (es el pdf que puse como attach a éste e-mail). Le borré 47 páginas que estaban llenas de bla bla de agogados. Paolo, te agradezco mucho para esta version, ahora fue mucho más facil encontrar los aspectos relevantes. Tampoco sé mucho de este tipo de licitaciones pero lo que si me parece interesante - en especial en comparación con la licitación de Rwanda que parece haber sido parecido en su enfoque - que la describción en la sección de los contenidos educativos esta bastante amplio. Si lo entiendo bien en Rwanda habían requisitos de certificación segun un estandard educativo pero no veo nada de esto en esta licitación uruguaya. En todo caso será interesante ver los resultados de este proceso... :-) Saludos, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com http://www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com mailto:christ...@olpcnews.com ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Call for bids, Educational platform, curricular content for CEIBAL
On Fri, June 24, 2011 10:22 am, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hummm Sugar Labs could use $48G. Maybe folks in charge of development should take a good look at this one. I'm in charge of the Replacing Textbooks program, and I am taking a good hard look at it. We would need a number of partners, and I have a good idea whom to ask. Would you like to join in, Caryl? If we can get paid to develop a set of interactive education materials in Spanish, we can then translate to the several dozen other languages of OLPC deplopments. The bottom line, apart from getting paid to do what we want to do anyway, is that with Free Software and Free Open Education Resources, netbooks are far less expensive than decent printed textbooks, and can be of much higher quality. We can then talk to politicians anywhere about improving education while saving money, an offer they cannot easily refuse. ^_^ Caryl Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:03:21 -0500 From: yamap...@gmail.com To: IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [IAEP] Call for bids, Educational platform, curricular content for CEIBAL $48 G in IADB funds, $114 G total page 18 has the abstract, and pp. 34-37 details on the actual stuff they are looking for. The rest is lawyerly fluff, so beware... On 06/16/2011 04:53 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: 2011/6/16 nanon...@mediagala.com Christoph Derndorfer wrote: vi que Plan Ceibal anunció una licitación para Plataforma Educativa on line... - Hola, Christoph: No soy experto en Licitaciones, ni tampoco en Plataformas Educativas, en lo único que te puedo ayudar es en pasarte un pequeño resumen de lo que pide dicha licitación. De las 59 páginas de la Licitación te lo acorté a 12 páginas (es el pdf que puse como attach a éste e-mail). Le borré 47 páginas que estaban llenas de bla bla de agogados. Paolo, te agradezco mucho para esta version, ahora fue mucho más facil encontrar los aspectos relevantes. Tampoco sé mucho de este tipo de licitaciones pero lo que si me parece interesante - en especial en comparación con la licitación de Rwanda que parece haber sido parecido en su enfoque - que la describción en la sección de los contenidos educativos esta bastante amplio. Si lo entiendo bien en Rwanda habían requisitos de certificación segun un estandard educativo pero no veo nada de esto en esta licitación uruguaya. En todo caso será interesante ver los resultados de este proceso... :-) Saludos, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Call for bids, Educational platform, curricular content for CEIBAL
On Fri, June 24, 2011 10:03 am, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: $48 G in IADB funds, $114 G total Where is the information on funding? I didn't see it in the PDF or on the Plan Ceibal site. page 18 has the abstract, and pp. 34-37 details on the actual stuff they are looking for. The rest is lawyerly fluff, so beware... Got it, thanks. On 06/16/2011 04:53 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: 2011/6/16 nanon...@mediagala.com mailto:nanon...@mediagala.com /Christoph Derndorfer wrote: vi que Plan Ceibal anunció una licitación para Plataforma Educativa on line... -/ Hola, Christoph: No soy experto en Licitaciones, ni tampoco en Plataformas Educativas, en lo único que te puedo ayudar es en pasarte un pequeño resumen de lo que pide dicha licitación. De las 59 páginas de la Licitación http://ceibal.org.uy/docs/Licitacion-152-2011-Pliego-%20Condiciones-Plataforma.pdf te lo acorté a 12 páginas (es el pdf que puse como attach a éste e-mail). Le borré 47 páginas que estaban llenas de bla bla de agogados. Paolo, te agradezco mucho para esta version, ahora fue mucho más facil encontrar los aspectos relevantes. Tampoco sé mucho de este tipo de licitaciones pero lo que si me parece interesante - en especial en comparación con la licitación de Rwanda que parece haber sido parecido en su enfoque - que la describción en la sección de los contenidos educativos esta bastante amplio. Si lo entiendo bien en Rwanda habían requisitos de certificación segun un estandard educativo pero no veo nada de esto en esta licitación uruguaya. En todo caso será interesante ver los resultados de este proceso... :-) Saludos, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com http://www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com mailto:christ...@olpcnews.com ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] project status
On Mon, June 20, 2011 6:55 am, Valerie Taylor wrote: Is there a single place where all active projects / initiatives are listed with information about current status, priorities, links to other important information and a contact? No. That would be a lot of work to do manually, but well worth it if it could be automated. At the highest level, contacts are provided on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Getting_Involved You can find translators and administrators listed in Pootle, bug owners in Trac, and authors in Replacing Textbooks. I assume that there are other resources in areas where I don't have as much involvement. There are pages for each project but I haven't found one place where I can see the current big picture - not too many words, lots of links and maybe some status / urgency indicators in a simple table? Sounds useful. -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Journal files
On Sun, June 19, 2011 11:22 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 20 June 2011 00:30, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: I presume this doesn't do what you are looking for? Doesn't scale particulary elegantly, but I find it useful http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Copy_to_and_from_the_Journal It does the basic job of copying to/from the Journal. However, it needs to be an easy GUI feature. Anything that requires a terminal is far beyond what we can expect a teacher or child to do. I have recommended the Midnight Commander file manager for this purpose. sudo yum install mc It is a full-screen character-mode program that runs in Terminal, so it needs no Sugarizing. Among its features are sorting, filtering, selecting multiple items or groups of items, and two-click copying or moving of selections, whether files or whole directories. We would need to write some lesson plans in order to give this to children. MC is not suitable for copying to and from the Journal, but it handles everything in plain files, and simplifies using the scripts given on the page you referenced. See also http://booki.flossmanuals.net/command-line/edit/ written for the Free Software Foundation. (I am one of the authors.) Unlike conventional command-line textbooks and manuals for those planning to be developers or sysadmins, this describes only what users need to know. It is not directly suitable for young children, but again we could use it as the basis for lesson plans. Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] ??
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:55, Donald Cohen doncohenmath...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, You have asked me to put my book Calculus By and For Young People-Worksheets under a CC license-which I've done. Thank you. Why not use my methods/lessons on the computer? Someone could make it work on the computer. Exactly. See the Nepalese Epaati software described at http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/nepal/epaati__educational_software.html If you send me your address I will send each of you a CD with my worksheet book. Edward Cherlin 2212 Home Ave. Columbus IN 47201 Didn't you send me one? In the meantime you could check out my A Map to Calculus http://www.mathman.biz/html/map.html and see all the lessons I do involving fractions.(a sample- infinite series, cookie sharing, solving equations, graphing linear equations to slope and area under curves, probability, continued fractions, infinite sequence of ratios of consecutive Fibonacci #s, Binomial expansion (Pascal's triangle), c/d of a circle, similar triangles, scale factors... ). Well done. On Monday I will be able to see my A Map to Calculus on a smart phone as an APP! Congratulations. Who did the programming? Have you seen http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/edit/ Why do you want to use the old wheel and make textbooks? Not at all. The program is Replacing Textbooks by integrating software into the curriculum, as in http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/0/0e/Gravity.odt Remember Feynman! Couldn't problems be put on the computer after children work on the lessons? NO. No? Couldn't the kids make up the questions? When that happens they really learn what they are doing, and the problems they make up are usually harder that those I make up. So the kids would make the textbook on the computer! They could even rate the questions- too easy, easy, harder, most difficult. Exactly. Kids could at some point write programs to set themselves problems, although that doesn't cover the really creative questions that are children's best contributions. The more interesting part is when children are able to act like scientists who understand that the importance of a new discovery is measured by the number and variety of new questions that it opens up, and the number of old ideas that it knocks down. Really good examples include non-Euclidean geometry, non-standard arithmetic and analysis, quantum theory, relativity, and evolution. I am making a list of activities I use with kids which involve fractions and will send this. I am a little slow, and with my kid-sessions/week (about 60) and two students coming from CA and LA for 5 days each, the end of June and the first week in July, please be patient. I consider it well worth the wait. Don -- Learning, Living and Loving mathematics..- the core of Don's teaching and books, observed by Seth Nielson. The Math Program Don Cohen -The Mathman 809 Stratford Dr. Champaign, IL 61821-4140 Tel. 217-356-4555 Fax: 1 217 356 4593 Email: doncohenmath...@gmail.com Don's Mathman website URL: http://www.mathman.biz See Don's new clickable A Map to Calculus with student works and sample problems from Don's books at every node Our Shaklee website: http://marilynanddoncohen.myshaklee.com -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Journal prompts (was: Re: FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar)
what that last sentence means about Sugar. See the Replacing Textbooks page on the Wiki (URL in sig). It is not that the XO replaces textbooks, but that we create the free digital replacements for expensive printed textbooks. Not just PDFs of existing textbooks, but interactive materials that integrate Sugar activities with subject matter, as Alan Kay has explained for teaching gravity. Here is my extended version of his lessons, using Turtle Art, Record, and Scratch. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/0/0e/Gravity.odt We have to cover every school subject and more for students, with a full course of teacher training and materials to explain what we are doing to parents, administrators, politicians... snip -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux ==.| http://kevix.myopenid.com..| | : :' : The Universal OS| mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/.|, | `. `' http://www.debian.org/.| http://counter.li.org [#238656]| |___`-Unless I ask to be CCd,.assume I am subscribed._| Slackware uh oh, what have I started :) Debian rofl... distro nick wars. * Slackware just waits for /nick Gnome, /nick KDE, and then world war 4 to break out WinNT :oP OpenBSD duck PalmOS :) Slackware no'one would dare /nick RedHat tru64 mew. -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Replacing textbooks server problem
I have just learned from dogi (Stefan Unterhauser) that the Django software on the Replacing Textbooks server at booki.treehouse.su needs occasional restarting, and that I am assigned to doing that as the principal user and manager of that server. Acabo de enterarme de dogi (Stefan Unterhauser) que el software de Django en el servidor Sustitución de Libros de Texto en booki.treehouse.su necesidades ocasionales de reiniciar, y que estoy asignado a hacerlo, como usuario principal y administrador de ese servidor. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/treehouse/booki#known_problems So if you can't get a Web page from the server, let me know. Por lo tanto, si usted no puede conseguir una página Web desde el servidor, hágamelo saber. -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Unity desktop in Ubuntu (was Re: [Sugar-devel] Is Apple's New OS X Copying Sugar???)
On Fri, June 17, 2011 6:51 pm, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi folks, Maybe what seem to be problems with Sugar aren't so bad after all. In fact, it looks like Apple is using some of our stuff! So is Ubuntu's new default desktop, Unity. Instead of a menu of applications, it has a display of icons for frequently-used apps, installed apps, and installable apps, with an option to select a subset such as Office, Accessories, System and so on, and a search box for typing any part of the app name or description. But these ideas are in the air. The search field in our journal or in Unity is very much like the Firefox Awesome Bar for searching by URL or title among Web pages that you have visited. Unity also has a bar on the left for active apps and some other icons, which relates to the Apple dock and also to the Sugar frame. Like the frame, it slides out when you put the mouse pointer into the corner or along the edge, according to a preference setting. One of the icons allows you to search for a document by icon or with the search box, rather like the Journal except that it also searches for folders. The most striking is the new Air Drop feature which is, essentially, our mesh network! It uses wi-fi and even has a view that I swear is is a copy of our Neighborhood View! Also, while you are all worrying about reducing the number of saves to the Journal, Apple's has made it's new Lion version of OS X have an autosave feature that constantly saves multiple versions of your projects. Of course, a lot of software already has this feature, but now it seems to apply to everything you might be running on the Apple. I found all this by watching Apple's video of their presentation at the WWDC last week. It's a long video (about 2 hours). Unless you are an Apple aficionado, I wouldn't recommend it. Caryl ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Journal prompts (was: Re: FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar)
to improve the underlying tools, I think we'll see more use. (By chance, when I was visiting the Caacupé deployment last year, I happened upon a meeting at one of the schools where the parents were being taught how to use the Journal so that they could talk with their children about their work, so I know that at least in some places, the Journal is being used in ways that we envisioned.) It was in response to feedback I got at the OLPC-sponsered assessment summit a few months back that I wrote the Portfolio activity -- http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4437 -- which I am hoping will lower the barrier to using portfolios as a routine part of the Sugar experience. regards. -walter -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux ==.| http://kevix.myopenid.com..| | : :' : The Universal OS| mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/.| | `. `' http://www.debian.org/.| http://counter.li.org [#238656]| |___`-Unless I ask to be CCd,.assume I am subscribed._| ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?
interesting ideas. I see Portal Ceibal shows information on Khan Academy and Sugata Mitra, among other education ideas that are calling the attention of many people around the world today. cjl - Here Carlos is suggesting that Sugar and an XO laptop alone are not the solution to all problems, a conclusion I heartily agree with. It fails to acknowledge what Sugar and XOs make possible, but I will not quibble there, I will join him in celebrating the ingenuity of local deployments and even children in appropriating the tools they have adopted and reworking them to meet their own needs and desires. At this point I am tempted to shout Hallelujah or less aptly Mission Accomplished. The appropriation of the tools and technology by local communities is the end-game we all seek (I think). cjl - What this leaves out is the sincere desire of Sugar Labs to gather that creative energy back from the deployments and share it with other deployments around the world. Let's be honest in admitting we just don't do this well enough (yet). I myself would like to see OLE Nepal's materials translated into English and hosted on Pootle for anyone to localize into their language of choice (just as an example). This returns us to the need for deeper and more meaningful engagement to harvest both the good and the bad from deployments. cjl - Kenneth, that is how I read Carlos's message. It may not be what he really meant to say and he may not like how I characterize some of his points, but this is just my opinion, which you *did* ask for, You just didn't realize that I would actually give it to you :-) cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sur] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar
On Tue, June 14, 2011 8:31 pm, Carlos Rabassa wrote: No logro aprender Sugar https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1eot88jPUrJgo2MWR7KNyHa8UqZjdTUOun6JH9A_7KBg I cannot learn Sugar https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1yBr2G7FF5Jr46ixt_THm1xQh08cyNJXx8KUy-WDZ1Xs You ask interesting and important questions. I appreciate the difficulties that you are having (some of which I share), and I would like to assist, but these documents do not say, either in Spanish or English, what you have failed to learn, nor which parts of Sugar do not work for you. Let us see whether we can make the record we need as a basis for a fully productive discussion. I am not on most of the lists that you sent your plea to, so I have to ask you to copy this to them, and invite others to join our conversation here. Have you been directed to these resources? Here is what I and others had trouble with at first, but mostly found answers for: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable There are Sugar manuals at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/ There are Wiki pages on individual Sugar Activities, linked from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities#Native_Sugar_Activities Do these answer any of your questions or solve any of your problems? Please give us a list of the remaining problems. We will add them to the page on The Undiscoverable, and to various Sugar manuals at FLOSS Manuals and in the Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks project. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks We will do our best to get answers, file bugs, and do whatever else is appropriate. This will not only help us to help you, but to help all who come after. I would ask any translators reading this to prioritize these materials, particularly for translation to Spanish, but to other languages as well. FLOSS Manuals is publishing a Spanish translation of Make Your Own Sugar Activities. http://translate.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar_es/Introduction We intend to translate the rest of the existing Sugar manuals into Spanish and other languages, and to write more. Carlos Rabassa Voluntario Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal Montevideo, Uruguay ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] calibre + OPDS for offline book catalogs.
On Mon, June 13, 2011 8:30 am, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Valerie Taylor and I are both very much interested in using such a solution for the Replacing Textbooks project. We already know of sites with 100,000 Open Education resources, and the rate of development is accelerating. I just learned earlier today that Bangladesh has put more than 100 of its existing K-12 textbooks online for free downloading, covering its entire curriculum. Would be great have a wiki page with information about book sources, licenses, etc. Sources: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Open_Education_Resources Just one of these sources lists over 100,000 OERs. You will have to consult their listings for licenses. Or do you mean a page explaining the licensing possibilities? Can do, but not right now. Gonzalo -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] calibre + OPDS for offline book catalogs.
On Mon, June 13, 2011 2:30 pm, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Any of them using OPDS servers? I have no idea. I can't even keep up with the content they list, and know nothing about the software they use. Gonzalo On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: On Mon, June 13, 2011 8:30 am, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Valerie Taylor and I are both very much interested in using such a solution for the Replacing Textbooks project. We already know of sites with 100,000 Open Education resources, and the rate of development is accelerating. I just learned earlier today that Bangladesh has put more than 100 of its existing K-12 textbooks online for free downloading, covering its entire curriculum. Would be great have a wiki page with information about book sources, licenses, etc. Sources: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Open_Education_Resources Just one of these sources lists over 100,000 OERs. You will have to consult their listings for licenses. Or do you mean a page explaining the licensing possibilities? Can do, but not right now. Gonzalo -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Is there a new geek anti-intellectualism?
On Sat, June 11, 2011 7:32 pm, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Hi all, thanks to Twitter I stumbled across a very interesting blog post called Is there a new geek anti-intellectualism? (http://larrysanger.org/2011/06/is-there-a-new-geek-anti-intellectualism/). Particularly in combination with the author's replies (http://larrysanger.org/2011/06/geek-anti-intellectualism-replies/) to many of the comments his original story received after being widely spread via Slashdot, Twitter, blogs, etc. this make for fascinating weekend read. The Two Cultures (C. P. Snow) strikes again. To me, this smacks of sour grapes. It's too hard for me, therefore it isn't worth doing. There is a lot of wasted space in academic publications, particularly in those branches of philosophy and theology that waste efforts on proving what everybody knows that turns out not to be the case. One of the best parts of my time in college was digging through many of the most famous examples to understand why, and to pick out the gems amid the trash. Part of the problem has been that it was illegal, and considered immoral, to publish the truth on almost anything to do with the secular and religious ruling classes in ages past. The history of restrictions on speech gradually giving way, and the establishment of a considerable degree of freedom of speech (beginning in Holland during its 90 Years War with the Spanish Empire and Inquisition) is one of the greatest adventures in human development. I align myself with John Alexander Smith (18631939), who said, Gentlemen, you are now about to embark on a course of studies which will occupy you for two years. Together, they form a noble adventure. But I would like to remind you of an important point. Nothing that you will learn in the course of your studies will be of the slightest possible use to you in after life, save only this, that if you work hard and intelligently you should be able to detect when a man is talking rot, and that, in my view, is the main, if not the sole, purpose of education. Smith was Professor of Moral Philosophy at Oxford University. Statement recorded in 1914. It was certainly the main point that Socrates taught, according to the early Platonic dialogues. Plato himself put out some of the rottenest rot in history later on, especially in The Republic. I definitely haven't managed to wrap my head around all of it but as a geek-dominated community working on education projects I feel some the things being discussed there potentially also apply to our own efforts. We are taking pretty much the opposite point of view in the Replacing Textbooks program. Save the baby, and use the bathwater to water the lawn. Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 40 maths shapes challenges
On Wed, June 8, 2011 12:22 pm, Alan Kay wrote: And the arc primitive shouldn't be there You have said too much or too little, Alan. Why not? Cheers, Alan From: Rita Freudenberg r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de To: IAEP SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 9:27:49 AM Subject: Re: [IAEP] 40 maths shapes challenges Does anyone know about the license of the turtle confusion book? Would it be ok to translate it? Greetings, Rita On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Bill Kerr wrote: introduced turtle art and barry newell's 40 shapes to my students today about half way through the lesson someone asked, how do you do the circle? before I could say anything another student replied, that's easy - just use arc you've gotta laugh (an arc primitive wasn't there for the original logo, nor is it in scratch) On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote: Circle is one of the hardest in Scratch. Unless I am missing a command. Cheers, Maria Droujkova http://www.naturalmath.com/ Make math your own, to make your own math. On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: Image attached Forty shapes to make in Scratch or some other version of logo, such as Turtle Art. It's hard to see the thumbnail but click on it for a larger view. This is one of the best sheets ever for teaching maths (designed by Barry Newell): * the logo turtle or scratch cat acts as a transitional object between the concrete maths shape and the abstraction of the script that makes the shape * the sheet includes both simple and complex shapes, increasing in order of complexity, there is a challenge there for everyone * many of the more complex shapes are made up of combinations of the simpler shapes Source: Barry Newell's Turtle Confusion (1988) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] calibre + OPDS for offline book catalogs.
On Tue, June 7, 2011 2:30 pm, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I will download Calibre and try it. If this not works, we can use code from Pathagar to create a catalog or use python to create the catalog.xml file with the data in the csv file, or use another simpler format (like json) to create local catalogs. I only need a little of time. This week si packed. Gonzalo Valerie Taylor and I are both very much interested in using such a solution for the Replacing Textbooks project. We already know of sites with 100,000 Open Education resources, and the rate of development is accelerating. I just learned earlier today that Bangladesh has put more than 100 of its existing K-12 textbooks online for free downloading, covering its entire curriculum. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:54 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Gonzalo, I've been investigating OPDS with calibre as a way of distributing books with an offline catalog. As you know, there has always been an interest in doing this in areas where Internet access is unavailable. With the help of calibre-OPDS I was able to create both a website and an OPDS catalog that can easily live in an Apache webroot, a thumb drive, or a Dropbox folder. In this way you can easily create a static website that does NOT require calibre to be running. Now the bad news: the OPDS catalog seems to be more complex that what GetBooks can deal with. It is organized as a hierarchy of XML files, with lists by Author, Title, Rating, etc. Instead of having just one XML file with the whole catalog you have a bunch of them. The software is described here: http://dearauthor.com/ebooks/create-your-own-cloud-of-ebooks-with-calibre-calibre-opds-dropbox/ You might try this yourself. The software is in Java and is really simple to set up, so you can generate a test OPDS index in no time from data in a calibre database. The static website is actually quite useful, and could be used from the Browse Activity if the website was stored on a thumb drive. That might be an alternative to recommend to those who need to distribute books without Internet access. James Simmons ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out
-referential environments alive and relevant in the world at large. I think one problem is that the state of the environment doesn't get kept in simple text files -- a concept of enduring value. My old APL programs are all dead too; they were objects in workspaces and weren't usually stored in small, persistent, portable, named, modular textual representations, the way C or Python programs are. This is why I am trying to get kids to leave Turtle Art behind. It is there as a hook to get them started, but not intended to be more than a stepping stone. Perhaps the key is to keep these immersive environments sufficiently tiny that you don't mind them dying when you turn your attention to something else. Tininess also helps to make one understandable and modifiable by others in case they DO want to keep it going after you move on. John It is worth pointing out that there are some math teachers in .UY who are using the export SVG capabilities of Turtle Art to launch their students into more sophisticated graphing and data visualization. Not what I had expected, but quite a good outcome nonetheless. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out
Hopkins worked on a PostScript-based window system (HyperLook) that would let you flip over an object on the screen to see behind it a control panel with the guts of its implementation visible. You could modify those, then flip it back and it would resume running. See: http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/hyperlook/index.html and http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/simcity/hyperlook-demo.html . Looking back at HyperLook, it looks a lot like the etoys environment, full of object oriented code with direct manipulation gui editor interfaces. The underlying Smalltalk language allows users to view the source of every object, down to the virtual machine. We can use the Etoys turtle graphics functions to do what you are asking for here. It's dead now; a historical curiosity of interest only to prior-art searchers defeating too-obvious software patents. It's hard to keep such self-contained and self-referential environments alive and relevant in the world at large. I think one problem is that the state of the environment doesn't get kept in simple text files -- a concept of enduring value. My old APL programs are all dead too; Mine aren't. they were objects in workspaces and weren't usually stored in small, persistent, portable, named, modular textual representations, the way C or Python programs are. But I helped create the first ISO/ANSI standard APL system, and I tended to stay with standard features. There is a WorkSpace Interchange Standard that will let you get code from working programs into files, and then into other APL systems. However, J uses external code files in ASCII. Perhaps the key is to keep these immersive environments sufficiently tiny that you don't mind them dying when you turn your attention to something else. Tininess also helps to make one understandable and modifiable by others in case they DO want to keep it going after you move on. Smalltalk/Etoys seems to be a counterexample to your claim. John ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] I am so excited I can hardly stand it - how about a Daisy Reader too?
On Mon, May 30, 2011 2:38 pm, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, mari...@ourdyslexicchildren.org wrote: Hi! Oh my goodness . . . you can read EPUBs? That is great!! Even the book reader people say they can't speak EPUB - I am thinking about KNO and the reader that Barnes and Noble is pushing. They say they can't do it. Well, the support of epub files in Read activity was done more than a year ago, I think by Sayamindu Dasgupta. Good to know. I must go test it. Can you also include a Daisy Reader or something that works with the RFBD (Recording For the Blind Dyslexic) books? We have been discussing that for years, and some work in that direction was done using the text-to-speech engine in Speak, and following the model of Same Language Subtitling of Bollywood films with coloring of the text as it is spoken or sung. (The most effective literacy campaign in India ever.) If you can drum up some volunteer developers or financial support for the project we can probably complete it for English and Spanish, and then offer it to other language communities for adaptation to their speech and writing systems. Accessibility is one of the critical targets for the Replacing Textbooks project that I manage, to get rid of print and go to digital Open Education Resources. Now they call themselves Learning Ally (http://learningally.org). There is something open source that works with Firefox for Windows called DDReader. I am not techy enough to know if it is adaptable. The Learning Ally files are audio. Formerly they have been encrypted mp3s or wmas, but now they are in a push to make everything more accessible. They have a huge collection and most current textbooks. I think the DDReader works only in Windows. Correct. About the books in learningally.org, are these books free? Some can be downloaded by registered users at no charge, but thy are not generally under free licenses. Important Copyright Notice The contents of all Learning Ally books are protected under copyright law. Learning Ally regulates the distribution of materials within a qualified member population of individuals who have a learning disability, visual impairment or other physical disability, and who have provided documented evidence of a print disability I am also a big fan of Librivox. Last semester I was at an elementary school and had what I called an audio book server. I just used the Gutenberg html versions with embedded audio of Librivox recordings. Using the web browser, the child clicked on the book and it started reading when the text and pictures came up. Kids liked it. Probably is a good online solution. I don't know how do this offline, because the recorded books a huge. This is one of the intended uses of School Servers. Can there be some sort of Sugar on a Stick version for dyslexic kids? I would definitely promote it and distribute it in Texas. We would probably not do a separate version, but would include accessibility in the base system. Probably is a good project, but need people with knowledge about dyslexic and time to create and maintain it. Nicholas Negroponte is dyslexic. We could talk to him about it. Thanks to all of you who are contributing. It's great! Thanks! I am only putting together the different pieces :) We know there are a lot of work to do. but I think we can create a solution in par or better than the commercialy offered. Gonzalo Marilyn [Irrelevant messages snipped.] -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down
On Fri, May 20, 2011 9:32 pm, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: The question is: does this really have educational value? Turtles all the way down is a great slogan, and a fine way to teach a graduate-level class on compiler technology, See * The Anatomy of LISP, by John Allen, and LISP machines, for LISP all the way down to the hardware. * http://domino.watson.ibm.com/tchjr/journalindex.nsf/600cc5649e2871db852568150060213c/641aa395fee3dd2c85256bfa006859fc!OpenDocument A Formal Description of System\360, by Adin Falkoff in the original pre-APL Iverson Notation, and Digital Systems: Hardware Organization and Design, by Frederick J. Hill Gerald R. Peterson for APL all the way down, also to the hardware. Specifically AHPL, A Hardware Programming Language. * SOAR (Smalltalk on a RISC) at UC Berkeley for Smalltalk all the way down to the hardware. * FORTH microprocessors such as Forth Multiprocessor Chip MuP21 http://www.ultratechnology.com/p21.html I would be interested to know of any other examples of hardware implementation of a programming language. (Not the Algol-optimized and COBOL-optimized Burroughs machines; real hardware implementations.) but I feel that the higher-level UI for tile-based program editing is the really useful thing for tablet computing. I'm a compiler geek and love the grungy underbelly of this stuff, but I keep reminding myself I should really be spending more time building a beautiful fluffy surface. I once used a tile-based UI in a commercial database program. It was horrible once we got past the toy examples. You are doing the right question I remember here No silver bullet [1] Different languages, different levels of abstraction, need different interfaces, and text is powerfull interface. May be is not the best interface to start to program, but surely graphic block are not the best interface to do programs of more than 400 of blocks. Of course. I would say that perhaps 40 or 50 blocks is a reasonable limit. After that, you should be writing subroutines to go in Python blocks, and not very long after transition to pure Python. Gonzalo [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Silver_Bullet On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:30 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.orgwrote: I've done a little more work on Turtles All The Way Down, which I (very briefly) discussed at EduJam. I actually wrote a garbage collector in TurtleScript for TurtleScript on Sunday. Brief writeup here: http://cananian.livejournal.com/64140.html and exhaustive mind-numbing detail here: http://cscott.net/Projects/TurtleScript/ No actual turtles yet! I'm going to have to fix that soon. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out
there, you can learn the syntactic sugar of any programming language. After learning three different clean programming models, we have some hope that our children will appreciate what abominations most other programming languages are. I invented Object-Oriented Programming, and C++ is _not_ what I had in mind.--Alan Kay As in the model-view-controller paradigm, the kids need to learn that the view is not the model, but the model is a simply structured thing that lives behind the view. If you don't teach the abstract structures that the model is based on, the kids can't learn to make that separation. This is why they never learn to modify the real programs that hide behind the fluffy interfaces on their real XO computers. We have paths from Turtle Art to Python and Logo, and we also have all of FORTH and Smalltalk built into XOs. Also, I don't know of any more fundamental structure than a parse tree, something that almost no conventional programming students ever learn about. They only see the linear text view of their programs, and most form incorrect models of the execution process. LISP has the best execution model, with the eval-apply mutual recursion and the read-eval-print loop. I cannot speak for every Sugar developer, but the approach I have tried to take with Turtle Art is a bit different than you are describing. Don't be modest, Walter, it's very different. The block-based programming environment is not meant to be a substitute for real tools; it is meant to be a place to get started; to understand the real ideas behind programming without getting bogged down in syntax; to learn that you can write and modify code; and to provide multiple motivations and launch pads for getting into the real thing. I've worked pretty hard to make the structured thing behind the view more approachable, and have provided multiple ways in and out: exporting your fluffy view into Logo that can be run in Brian Harvey's text-based Logo environment; direct, in-line extensions written in Python; the ability to create new blocks by importing Python; a plugin mechanism for making major interventions; and a refactoring of the underlying structures to make the code more approachable. (The source code is peppered with comments and examples of how to make modifications.) None of these interventions are intended to keep the kids programming in Turtle Art. They are all intended to get the kids started down the path of real programming. But I content that we need to engage them; let them discover that they can write code; and make changes; and that it is not something just for others but for everyone. When I talked about Turtles All the Way Down at Libre Planet two-years ago, I wasn't suggesting that we use fluffy interfaces all the way down, but that we invite modifications all the way down by providing scaffolding and encouragement. Step One is to give them the freedom to make changes; Step Two is to give them the context in which they can actually start doing it. Yes, what Walter said. Sure, there will always be the handful of kids who will jump right into Emacs and C, but most won't. Maybe we can encourage a few more to do something of substance but giving them some scaffolding. I am open to suggestions as to how to get more kids to move on from Turtle Art to ___ (insert you favorite real programming environment here). -walter John ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down
On Fri, May 20, 2011 2:28 pm, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: This is nice! Smalltalk actually got started by thinking about a way to make a child's Logo-like language with objects and pattern matching that could express its own operating system and environment. Seymour Papert also proposed creating an environment in which learning math would be as easy as learning ordinary language. Smalltalk has a number of kinds of number and shape objects, but I have not seen much else in the way of mathematical objects. I am trying to go through various subjects to extract the ideas that preschoolers can absorb, and create materials to encourage them to explore those ideas. Caleb Gattegno and Ken Iverson did a fair amount on algebra, using Cuisenaire rods and APL respectively. Don Cohen has done Calculus by and for Young People I have made a start on symmetry groups, using variations on children's block toys. Elementary set theory using Venn diagrams was done long ago. But there is so much more. It is very tricky to retain/maintain readability (so the first Smalltalk was also an extensible language not just semantically but syntactically). With a tile language, this is really worth thinking about, since using tiles suggests ways to extend both the form and the meaning of the tiles. My current thinking is that macros are *graphical*, not *source* transformations. You can create your own tiles for the language which render into hygenic macros. They are represented in source as simple message dispatch. For example, choosing a particularly ugly bit of JavaScript syntax: I would like to be able to create a set of blocks implementing the symmetry group of a simple shape such as an equilateral triangle. This case is generated by a 120 degree rotation and a reflection, giving six elements in all. Similarly I would like to be able to do modular addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division in finite fields, and the and and or functions or union and intersection on lattices. Does your system accommodate this? var ForBlockMacro = imports.macros.ForBlockMacro; var foo = function() { var i; ForBlockMacro(function() { i=0; }, function() { return i 5; }, function() { i+=1; }, function() { /* body */ }); } This is the underlying syntax for the macro. But the ForBlockMacro function (which is a first class object in JavaScript) can have an asTile() method which returns a more attractive visual representation in the tile editor; in fact, the representation could elide all the 'function' and 'return' nastiness of the raw syntax and display (traditionally) as: for ( i=0 ; i 5 ; i+=1 ) { /* body */ } My current plan is to finess the multiple views issue (discussed in 3.4 of http://labs.oracle.com/self/papers/programming-as-experience.html) by representing objects as 3d polyhedra. The front view might be the nice cleaned up tile macro, but you should be able to rotate the tile to see the low level source, and then rotate it again to see the object corresponding to the actual widget displaying the source, etc. So, one object, many views. I've built the current system on a very flexible operator precedence grammar, so there's no reason I *couldn't* allow the user to flexibly extend the base grammar. But that increases the conceptual effort necessary to understand the system -- I have to understand the expanded language before I can understand the code I'm looking at. The macro system I describe above has the nice property that you don't *have* to understand the macro or the grammar of the new if statement. It's enough to look at the desugared version: ForBlockMacro(function() { i=0; }, function() { return i 5; }, function() { i+=1; }, function() { /* body */ }); and the implementation of ForBlockMacro: ForBlockMacro = function(initBlock, condBlock, incrBlock, bodyBlock) { initBlock(); while (condBlock()) { bodyBlock(); incrBlock(); } }; ForBlockMacro.asTile() = ; This seems (to me) a preferable way of understanding what the new tile does. But I'm open to other ideas on this front. (And yes, JavaScript's syntax isn't lovely. But I'm interested in what I can do with what I've got.) --scott -- Â Â Â ( http://cscott.net ) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos
Re: [IAEP] Printing in Uruguay
Copied to OLPC-SUR. We would be grateful if anyone felt like translating this conversation into Spanish, and even more grateful if some of the Spanish-speaking readers there would join this project. I am about to make a section on the Ideas for Projects Wiki page for this project...Done. Feel free to add ideas. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ideas_for_Projects#Printing On Tue, May 17, 2011 2:12 am, nanon...@mediagala.com wrote: /moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: Shall we take this discussion back onto the mailing lists? / Sorry, I was replying your mails, and not replying to the entire mailing list. Understood. The printing Problem is one of the issues that we are talking from 2008, and a lot of people wrote about it, but nothing practical was decided. - I Know that printing is not necessary, but teachers ask us how to print. May be in 50 years nobody will print , but now is a issue that maybe someone can solve-. Mr Mokurai asked me what he can do to solve that problem. I'm from Uruguay, and here the deployment is monopolized by Plan Ceibal, we (the volunteers) can only change little things, but we can't change big things, like installing something in the school servers, o installing printers, etc etc. That's why it is very difficult for us to try to install something to solve the printing problem. For example: from other countries, many people told us: do that and these, install that thing and this software, and the problem is solved... We can not go inside a school installing or touching thing that belongs to a school!. We are volunteers, that means in legal words: less than a fly. The server on each school is closed in a metal cage like a little fort-knox http://mediagala.com/rap/varios/servidor-ceibal.jpg, nobody can touch the server, and most of the times the server is in a separate room that the computer-room, in the cases that the school have one. -- I Think that the printing problem_* may have two approaches: *_ _the big centralized solution_, or _the little solution in a little school_. the big solution would be that Sugarlabs and/or Plan Ceibal install something in all the schools servers and all the Xos. This solutions does not concern me, In English we call that a boil the oceans strategy. but maybe the second ... _*T**he second approach could be to try something in a little school*_, . For example, using the printer that a school already has, with a normal computer that that school already had, connected somehow to the Xos, with some software that can print. And once that is working, we think about how to extend it to other schools. I suggested having a student art show, and inviting children, parents, teachers and administrators from other schools, local politicians, perhaps even a Plan Ceibal person or two. No argument with them is necessary. We just want them to see happy, smiling faces, and perhaps hear what educational changes followed the availability of printing. It doesn't have to be art. A science fair with printed posters, or a poetry or writing contest, or a photography exhibition, all would do. It would be possible to have an exhibition on the children's own XOs, with the children at hand to demonstrate their work, and to mention how much the children would like to see their work printed out to exhibit when they and their XOs are not there. For example: the first thing that may be done is printing a Write document (made on the XO), and printed using a school printer, connected to a computer with a web-printing software. or something similar. --- At this moment the teachers has a lot of problems printing something, because they have to use a USB penDrive to copy the file, saved in pdf or rtf, then taking the pendrive to someplace and with the fingers crossed she have to hope that on that computer she can open the .odt , o pdf,. or whatever. Let us find as many teachers as possible who are presently doing this, and ask them to tell us about the value of printing for their students. Let us also invite them into the project to find a better solution. - Connecting the School Xos with the normal PCs of the Scool it is impossible right now (on the Plan Ceibal Network). The normal Computers can't connect with the ceibal network. The only PCs that connects are SOME teachers laptops and the XOs 1.0 . You need a user and password to connect to the ceibal network, that is made so the people can't steal internet from the schools. -- Possible solution N°1: -*We need a school, that has normal Pcs and one printer *(there are schools that already had computers and printers before OLPC). This is possible (not for all the schools, of couse) -*We need to connect that computer* (the one that has the printer) to the Ceibal NEtwork. This is possible too, (in theory
Re: [IAEP] copy files to/from server
On Tue, May 17, 2011 3:42 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: How can XOs copy files to/from their Journal with a server? We want the ability for teachers to easily make files available for children, and for children to upload to the server. This appears to be a problem for the Devel list. If the server can be made to appear in the frame in much the same way that an inserted USB drive appears, this task will be easy. Or I should say, a shared folder on the server, perhaps one per class or one per child. I would recommend that you file a feature request on Trac. It's not practical to install another server (so an XS is not an option). Most schools have a Windows-based server, so they could use CIFS files shares. Accessing this is doable through GNOME, but not in Sugar with the Journal. Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] FW: Lots of Links!
On Sun, May 15, 2011 9:48 pm, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: wow, this is a fun coincidence. I did something very similar years ago, when I was a new immigrant to the US. Ran computer activities for the YMCA of Austin, including kids building/repairing computers and then those went to local families who could drop by for further training. Lots of fun! There is a lot of this going on around the world now, such as the Laptop Hospital organized in Nigeria by six-year-old girls. On 05/12/2011 11:10 AM, Lori Barfield wrote: gonzalo and tracy, thanks very much, i'll get all these ideas over to the district music teacher. there is other news. i have done program development before for my local YMCA, and yesterday the Program Director expressed a great deal of interest in having me give an introduction to computing course for children, Lori, would you take a look at my draft of Discovering Discovery, at http://booki.treehouse.su/discovering-discovery/ and tell me whether you would be willing to work on this idea with children? This version is aimed at older children and adults. I need to do a teacher's version for those teaching children, who don't need a textbook for this purpose. I don't know at what age we can get children to create and maintain discovery journals, but they would be enormously helpful for improving the XO, Sugar, and our training materials. For pre-literate children, some method of recording their explorations, preferably with them talking about everything that works and everything that doesn't, would be even more helpful. and computer workshops for senior citizens. this YMCA is one of the top ranking facilities in the country, and if i do any class for them it is likely the other YMCAs in my area will also want to participate. i'm not sure how many i can fit in before august, so we'll see. :-) if i do work up a few classes for seniors, i think we'll need to stay inside the browser, since that skill will translate to other computers they are likely to have access to. the XO screen is so tiny i expect there to be some challenges. has anyone out there tried this before with the elderly? do any of you have any suggestions? I used to teach Internet browser classes at the local public library. We got a lot of seniors there. Generally, I let them ask the questions, and then demonstrated how to find and use what they were looking for. If I had to do it again, I would make them do the searches, and think out loud about what they were doing. The trick is to recognize when people are working out something for themselves, and when they need a hint about something they can't very well discover on their own. I also taught minimal word and text processing, and I do mean minimal. Turn on the computer, open the program, create a file, type something in it, save the file, close it, open it again, double-click to select words, cut, copy, paste, click-and-drag, drag-and-drop. In less than 15 minutes, all in command mode with adults who had some computer experience but no real training. OK, now you can write and edit. You can take notes on what we are going to do next. Formatting, styles, document structure, all the rest comes later. (You can learn it by taking a class, reading a book, or just exploring.) This was necessary preparation at the time. Then we spent the rest of the hour on job-hunting tools. I must write this up. ...lori ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Sat, May 14, 2011 12:08 pm, Valerie Taylor wrote: I'm becoming more convinced that the solution is a robust index / retrieval system. Provide the big picture - what OERs are currently available, how they map to the Replacing Textbooks vision of curriculum for all, what is missing, where there are works in progress and the status. This needs to be really up-to-date and easy to update. And of course, open software. I took a quick look in Synaptic to see what sorts of package Ubuntu offers for these purposes. Search repository Hyper Estraier is a full-text search system. Search document database couchdb RESTful document oriented database, system DB mongodb An object/document-oriented database Monotone A distributed version (revision) control system SiSU documents - structuring, publishing in multiple formats and search No doubt there are others. Let the OERs live where ever works for the creators. Make open space available by all means. Suggest outlines, vocabularies, categories. Peer reviews and ratings, librarian / curator function for tags and categories would be helpful, too. My first pass of the tasks for this would be: * communication / status - big picture - what is available, what is needed, work in progress, requests for collaboration * curriculum outlines - identify what is needed * existing OERs - find, categorize, dynamic / real-time map to big picture * identify gaps - so work can be directed to create missing * manage volunteers efforts - guidelines, questions * project management there are lots of disconnected education resources but little overall structure. This is not a criticism of the community, without the community, the resources would not exist. We will also need a repository that can handle a multidimensional collection of documents * on every school subject and teacher training subject, plus many more * at every level of child development * for every country * in every language needed That's why I am suggesting an index because the problem is too complex for a single repository which doesn't scale. There are several useful structuring principles. Mine is the growth of children's mental capacities. The solution must support several useful structuring principles. This is a tall order but I think it will have the best outcomes for educators and learners. And with this group behind it, it can attract the critical mass necessary to be seriously important and interesting. :o) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] XO power management hindering collaboration
On Sat, May 14, 2011 10:04 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: It's looking to us that the aggressive power management enabled on the XO can sometimes create confusion when children are collaborating on activities. Take for example a turn-based game like Memorise. If a child is waiting for their turn, they might leave the XO untouched. In that time, power management can kick in, and the XO stops communicating over the wireless network. Waking up the XO (e.g. by touching the pad) doesn't always rejoin the XO to the game properly. The whole game is stalled because the turn cannot be completed. Is this in the bug tracking system? If not, please file a bug report. (We can help.) If it is, please add your experience to the existing bug report. Are there any ways we can manage this in our deployments? Perhaps some guidelines to give to teachers so that they have a reasonable expectation? An obvious workaround is to keep touching the XO so that it does not go to sleep. The more clumsy process is for the active player to exit and save, then open the saved Journal entry and share again. Thanks, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Fri, May 13, 2011 3:31 am, Teemu Leinonen wrote: On 12.5.2011, at 18.09, Valerie Taylor wrote: A wiki-based solution could work. We are hosting an experimental wiki-like solution for primary and secondary school teachers for finding, authoring and sharing OERs. The are close to 20 000 educators from 65 countries working in 48 languages (the UI is available in 14 languages). The site is here: http://lemill.net/ Added to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Open_Education_Resources#Sources In LeMill teachers can create: I Content (1) educational web pages with embedded media, (2) exercise with a) multiple choice questions, b) fill-in-the-blanks exercise, c) open-ended questions or upload questions from Hot Potatoes, (3) Lesson plans (4) Media pieces (upload images and sound clips) (5) Reference (links to external websites II Methods - Descriptions of teaching and learning methods (from brainstorming to seminar) III Tools - Descriptions of teaching and learning tools (from post-it notes to mindmap software) Despite of the relatively large number of users and OERs only the Georgian and the Estonian communities are truly active and lively. The tag cloud of languages spoken by the community members is interesting: http://lemill.net/community/cloud?base=languagetype=MemberFolder We also have some hypothesis why the Georgians and Estonians are so active. It would be great to have more Sugar-related content on LeMill. I am the Replacing Textbooks Project Manager for Sugar Labs. We should discuss how we can work together. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks Best regards, - Teemu --- Teemu Leinonen http://www.uiah.fi/~tleinone/ +358 50 351 6796 Media Lab http://mlab.uiah.fi Aalto University School of Art and Design --- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
On Fri, May 13, 2011 7:07 am, Valerie Taylor wrote: YOU are systematic. It is the rest of us who need help. It isn't just that. We are talking about producing several hundred subject-matter OERs for all subjects at all levels, plus local content in history, literature, health, agriculture and so on, in perhaps a hundred languages, in both student and teacher editions, where the teacher's edition will not be distinguished by having the right answers to the problems, but by having lesson plans for each topic in a variety of styles, as Muska Mosston put it, From Command to Discovery. And then permitting remixing and matching to state, province, national, or subject-matter-expert curricula. Among other things. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Valerie Taylor vtay...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is merit in having a public repository like the Sugar Labs wiki to encourage educators and others to see what is being done, and build on that in a systematic way. We will need a proper Free Software document repository built on a sufficiently powerful database engine to support all of the requirements mentioned above. We are not exactly systematic about it, but Tony links to his most relevant blog posts in the wiki. Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Tutorials and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors Very nice. I have some to add. As far as how to make these posts have more impact, we are open to suggestions. Good example - the first encounter with the Turtle Art page is a little overwhelming - Obviously tons of wonderful information with pictures and code... There are many OLPC and Sugar Labs Wiki pages with lots of good information and almost no guidance on how to use it. I used to do the kind of documentation we need for a living, but there is only one of me. We need a team. Some us need to know what can it do? and why do I need to know all this stuff? (rather than how does it work?). The Challenges are great! This is where it starts to make some sense for me. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Challenges Which one of these meets my needs with the least fuss? Provide a way to showcase and contribute learning objects - basically challenge descriptions with categories / tags - subject, degree of difficulty, ... and optional information like learning objectives and additional information for teachers or students - setup, curriculum integration, links to more advanced related challenges. There should be a mechanism for adding reviews to challenge entries, too. The Turtle Art page is sooo organized that it doesn't invite contributions or collaboration. If there was a button that said add your own challenge or add a review of this challenge it would create a safe way to contribute. A form pops up with boxes to fill in, including some options, save and it is added to the page in the proper place without the risk of messing up what is already there. For the experienced Wikiist, the Edit button is sufficient invitation, but it takes people a while to believe it. This would also help educators (and students) find challenges to try themselves. Once they locate a couple of challenges that seem appropriate and interesting, then they will be motivated to work through all the terrific material provided. We need to make some pages with just challenges and hints. I have been working on the idea, off and on, at http://booki.flossmanuals.net/discovering-discovery/edit/ and more recently http://booki.treehouse.su/discovering-discovery/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration
- subject, degree of difficulty, ... and optional information like learning objectives and additional information for teachers or students - setup, curriculum integration, links to more advanced related challenges. There should be a mechanism for adding reviews to challenge entries, too. Can you flesh this idea out a bit? Or even better do it? I am a bit vague on degree of difficulty curriculum integration for the existing samples, this needs feedback from teachers in the field. Getting feedback is important. Would you let the tags just grow organically or should we work out some hierarchy of tagging? Is it worth making a start with something like Delicious? I suspect that reprogramming the wiki is too much to ask for at this stage. There are several useful structuring principles. Mine is the growth of children's mental capacities. At what stage of development can we effectively introduce an essential idea? How do stages of development correlate with age? How can we recognize a stage of development? How can we maximize the children's own discovery? Which ideas are the most essential? There is a substantial literature on these questions, building on Piaget, Montessori, Papert and others, but taking many new directions. You said you had made a TurtleArt sample. Please add it to the wiki. Feel free to restructure the existing pages so that its addition makes sense in the larger structure. Thanks again for the feedback Tony YOU are systematic. It is the rest of us who need help. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Valerie Taylor vtay...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is merit in having a public repository like the Sugar Labs wiki to encourage educators and others to see what is being done, and build on that in a systematic way. We are not exactly systematic about it, but Tony links to his most relevant blog posts in the wiki. Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Tutorials and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors As far as how to make these posts have more impact, we are open to suggestions. Good example - the first encounter with the Turtle Art page is a little overwhelming - Obviously tons of wonderful information with pictures and code... Some us need to know what can it do? and why do I need to know all this stuff? (rather than how does it work?). The Challenges are great! This is where it starts to make some sense for me. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Challenges Provide a way to showcase and contribute learning objects - basically challenge descriptions with categories / tags - subject, degree of difficulty, ... and optional information like learning objectives and additional information for teachers or students - setup, curriculum integration, links to more advanced related challenges. There should be a mechanism for adding reviews to challenge entries, too. The Turtle Art page is sooo organized that it doesn't invite contributions or collaboration. If there was a button that said add your own challenge or add a review of this challenge it would create a safe way to contribute. A form pops up with boxes to fill in, including some options, save and it is added to the page in the proper place without the risk of messing up what is already there. This would also help educators (and students) find challenges to try themselves. Once they locate a couple of challenges that seem appropriate and interesting, then they will be motivated to work through all the terrific material provided. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Printing in Uruguay (was Re: OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!)
On Fri, May 13, 2011 2:30 am, nanon...@mediagala.com wrote: /moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: It is straightforward to share Journal entries between XOs. although not over mesh networking. *..Printing is not necessary.* / I said also that printing was useful. Further comments below on your comments. It is possible to set up XOs to print, but it requires installing the CUPS printing package, and it means plugging into a USB printer for each job. What we want is a school server with a printer, and a robust way to use the wireless on the XOs to access it. Mesh networking is utterly unreliable in the classroom, so we have to fall back to regular WiFi and Jabber servers, or to a Web-based interface where one can upload a file or a Journal entry and schedule it for printing. There are a number of technical problems with this, which we need to put serious effort into fixing. We also have to work on the user interface. I will be happy to assist. Is anybody working on this in PLAN Ceibal? Step 1. Collect user requirements in the form of use cases * Who wants to print what, when, for what purposes? * Do lots of children want to print at the same time? * Is it acceptable to queue print jobs for later pickup? * Color or black white, or a mixture? * Documents from other sources, or Journal entries, or printing from activities? * What sizes? (Metric vs. US; letter vs oversize and undersize) * Should teachers schedule printing, or should students, or both? * How much printing can a school afford? * How will we manage permissions and privileges? * What else have you heard from teachers and students? * Which use case has highest priority? Step 2. Triage * Which use cases do we know how to support? * Which use cases are most important? * Who should decide what to do next? * What minimizes the current pain? Step 3. Implement first-cut solution * Who will do the work? * What oversight will there be? * How do we test the solution? * Did we solve the right initial problem? Step 4. * Lather, rinse, repeat I hope this helps. Who is willing to work on this problem? Mr. Mokurai: MAybe you are an expert in Education, and Xo, or SUgar development, or teaching children, I reject the title of expert. I know a little, but mostly I know how little I know. I am Project Manager of the Sugar Labs project to Replace Textbooks with Open Education Resources, not because I know how to do it, but because I am the only one who sees its importance as I do, and is willing to do the work, and to find out how. but I think that you don't KNow the reality of the XOs here in Uruguay, or somewhere that the teachers uses XO. My Spanish is bad, and I have not been to Uruguay, true. I am working on both of those problems. I know how I use my laptop and my two XOs, which does not include printing, unless an employer or a government agency insists. *Printing is not necessary* is a very good statement , I agree, but for the real people (not the theoretical children) is only a statement, that is almost impossible to apply now. It is like saying The peace is better than the war... is a very good phrase, we all agree, but with that phrase I can not solve the problems of the world. I have some ideas on peace, but they will take at least a generation to work out. I am counting on our millions of children to help out after they learn how to work with each other around the world. See The Evolution of Cooperation, by Robert Axelrod, for a theoretical outline of an approach. The real world exists, and* in the real world the teachers wants to print.*. that is a fact, and We can not change it. Maybe in 30 Years the mind of the Teachers will change, but not now. Yes, I am very clear on the difference between want to and need to. It was one of the main topics of my seminary training. MAybe in 30 Years this statement will be true, but now if you told a TEacher that you can't print is the same as saying _don't use the Xo's. You have a XIX century mind. The XO are made for XXII century minds only._.. A XV century, pre-Gutenberg, approach works quite well, actually. We need to adjust our thinking more than theirs. This is not my opinion, it's simply an observation of the real world that I see that here in Uruguay: _there are a lot of teachers that don't Use the XO_ because of lots of problems that it has (there are also other reasons that are non technical). One of those problems are the printing problem. As expected, until we get XOs into the full curriculum in the teachers' colleges. You said to share the Journal. Excuse me, Mr. Mokurai:_* *_Do you Know that the MEsh doesn't works? Yes, I do. You can share journal entries on USB flash drives, or over Jabber servers. Even if you can share something, The XOs hangs up, or loose the entire journal, and the children don't use the journal for important things, that's why
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
Thanks, Sascha. All of this goes into The Undiscoverable, and later into Sugar documentation. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable On Thu, May 12, 2011 4:19 pm, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Johanna Wener's message of Thu May 12 21:08:31 +0200 2011: The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. I expect others to reply to the educational part of that sentence (i.e. is there a better way to reach your goals than consuming lots of energy, water and trees?). We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail - doesnt work! What exactly have you tried and how did it fail? Walters brand-new Portfolio activity [1] has support for exporting selected, annotated Journal entries as HTML. You could save it to a USB stick, open the HTML file on a computer with an attached printer and print from within the browser. If you install CUPS on the system running Sugar (probably an XO judging from the subject), you can use a browser other than Browse to print locally. Or you can copy the Journal entry to the regular file system using copy-to-journal and print using the lpr command from within Terminal. A whole bunch of other options would combine the following: 1. Acquiring a printable file: a) take a screenshot by pressing Alt+1 b) some activities can export as PDF c) some activities can export as HTML d) some activities use a file format that can be read by non-Sugar applications (e.g. Write uses ODT, native file format of LibreOffice nee OpenOffice) e) Write 73 can export to PDF, so you could try using the clipboard to import content into Write and export as PDF 2. Transferring the file to Gnome or a different computer: a) copy to a USB stick, SD card or USB hard disk using the Journal b) using copy-from-journal from within Terminal to copy the Journal entry to the home directory (so Gnome can access it) c) using datastore-fuse [3] to access the Journal entry from within Gnome (experimental - you might need help from a techie) d) uploading the files to some web site (Moodle, wiki, photo gallery like Flickr, pastebin site, ...) and accessing that site from the computer with the printer. 3. Printing from within Gnome or on a different computer running a desktop system other than Sugar: a) for PDF and ODT just opening the file and printing from within the PDF viewer resp. word processor should usually work well enough. b) for HTML use a browser. You might need to tweak some options to get pretty output. I've seen browsers cutting a line of text in half; hopefully that's fixed by now. c) Gimp is pretty good for printing images, though it could be a bit overwhelming. d) CUPS understands several file formats natively (including images); just type lpr name_of_the_file.jpg (without the quotes). I'd love to tell you to download the Print activity [2] and print directly from within Sugar, but unfortunately I haven't managed to get it to work yet. However, the above options hopefully get you unblocked now; we can work on better solutions later. Sascha [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4437 [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-August/thread.html#18173 [3] http://git.sugarlabs.org/datastore-fuse -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
the Journal b) using copy-from-journal from within Terminal to copy the Journal entry to the home directory (so Gnome can access it) c) using datastore-fuse [3] to access the Journal entry from within Gnome (experimental - you might need help from a techie) d) uploading the files to some web site (Moodle, wiki, photo gallery like Flickr, pastebin site, ...) and accessing that site from the computer with the printer. 3. Printing from within Gnome or on a different computer running a desktop system other than Sugar: a) for PDF and ODT just opening the file and printing from within the PDF viewer resp. word processor should usually work well enough. b) for HTML use a browser. You might need to tweak some options to get pretty output. I've seen browsers cutting a line of text in half; hopefully that's fixed by now. c) Gimp is pretty good for printing images, though it could be a bit overwhelming. d) CUPS understands several file formats natively (including images); just type lpr name_of_the_file.jpg (without the quotes). I'd love to tell you to download the Print activity [2] and print directly from within Sugar, but unfortunately I haven't managed to get it to work yet. However, the above options hopefully get you unblocked now; we can work on better solutions later. Sascha [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4437 [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-August/thread.html#18173 [3] http://git.sugarlabs.org/datastore-fuse ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OLPC in Science-Subjects --- NEED HELP!!!
On Thu, May 12, 2011 3:08 pm, Johanna Wener wrote: Hello Everybody! I'm studying at the University of teacher education in graz in austria to become a teacher for primary school. For my final thesis I'm working in a class with olpcs to find out which programmes can be used in the subjects of science. I would like to offer my help. My degree is in Mathematics Philosophy, including philosophy and history of science, and courses in Physics, Biology, and Chemistry. Ich kann auch etwas Deutsch. I worked with FotoToon, Labyrinth, InfoSlicer and many more. Calculator, Measure, Record, the Python and Smalltalk programming languages, SocialCalc, Physics, Turtle Blocks...I particularly like Measure for acoustics. You can set it to frequency domain and show the overtones of any note on any musical instrument. The fundamental discovery of Pythagoras was that harmonious intervals on a plucked string corresponded to ratios of small integers. The octave is a ratio of 2 to 1, and the fifth (C to G, for example) is a ratio of 3 to 2 in length (and 2 to 3 in frequency). See Alan Kay's use of turtle graphics in Smalltalk to make a simulation of constant acceleration, Record to capture a video of a falling object, and Smalltalk or Scratch to select frames from the video at fixed intervals. The results of the simulation and the video show the same pattern. I expanded this in Turtle Art (now Turtle Blocks) to show the effect of adding constant sideways motion, which gives parabolas, and added photos of parabolic water fountains. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/0/0e/Gravity.odt The big problem I have is, that everything that the children do on the olpc could not be used for learning because there is no way to print their works out. This turns out not to be the case. While printing is useful for making public exhibitions, it is not required for sharing anything that you can save in the Journal. The Collaboration feature allows students to share a session and save a copy to their own Journals. We tried to make a screenshot and send it by mail - doesnt work! The Undiscoverable http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable Screen capture An important use case for the Keep button. How do we store just the image, without the software state? Some Activities, including Turtle Art, have a button for this purpose. Alt + 1 captures the screen and stores a screenshot in the Journal. See this discussion thread for techniques useful for special situations when a time-delayed capture may be needed, http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg17591.html And we have no chance to print out anything we worked on! Can anybody help us? Nice greets Johanna Wener ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Free laptops all very well but ..
On Wed, May 11, 2011 7:08 pm, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/free-laptops-all-very-well-but-how-best-to-use-them-in-testing-times-20110511-1eitv.html initiatives that focus primarily on the provision of computers are not successful because the computers aren't used to their full potential ... Putting computers in classrooms is a good first step. But it's the easiest step. If we genuinely want this technology to help students then we must look beyond the rhetoric of the computer companies and the politicians. I'm with you so far. The federal government needs to start working with schools to map how computers can be successful in the complicated environments in which they have been placed. No, emphatically no, neither in Australia, or the US, or anywhere else except possibly Bhutan. The US Federal government hasn't a clue what real education is. They cannot fund the research we need, because they have, officially, no imagination in this area. Things were different in the heyday of DARPA, but nobody gets to hand out money any more just because somebody has an interesting idea. I cannot believe from external indications that the Australian government has any more of a clue on this. We've got the equipment. Let's shift focus to the real stuff, learning, and how we can realistically take that to the next level. Absolutely. But keep governments out of it until after we know what we are trying to do. Maybe even then. For the sake of our students, the government must clarify the type of learning it wants to take place in our schools, and how computers can be used to support this. And please, let's not allow these decisions to be made without consulting schools, teachers and students. You see, there is the contradiction. Let us consult with schools, teachers, and students ourselves. This is the aim of the Sugar Labs Replacing Textbooks project, which aims to create Open Education Resources (OER) taking advantage of computer capabilities. Not just PDFs of dead-tree textbooks. We no longer live in the age of students learning the same lesson from the same government-approved book on the same day, and nothing else. We live in an Age of Information, where we are awash in connections. And yet schoolchildren are kept almost entirely out of it, for fear of pedophiles. We need their help to make it work. Australia is relying on it. Dr Joanne Orlando is a lecturer in education at the University of Western Sydney. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (#40664;#38647;/#2343;#2352;#2381;#2350;#2350;#2375;#2328;#2358;#2348;#2381;#2342;#2327;#2352;#2381;#2332;/#1583;#1726;#1585;#1605;#1605;#1740;#1711;#1726;#1588;#1576;#1583;#1711;#1585; #1580;) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep