Re: [IAEP] Crazy Idea

2010-06-12 Thread Kevin Cole
Although Android prefers a Linuxy / Javaesque environment, Google did hire
the prime mover behind Python, Guido van Rossum.

And... :-) ...a search turns up ASE -- the Android Scripting Environment, a
downloadable app that gives your phone Python, Lua, Ruby, Perl, JavaScript
and Tcl interpreters.

See http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/

On Jun 11, 2010 8:54 PM, "Yoshiki Ohshima"  wrote:

At Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:14:59 -0400,

Chris Ball wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> >> Some schools are getting iPod touches (??? is that the plural)...
 Yes but there was an interesting movement in that area:

http://www.appleoutsider.com/2010/06/10/hello-lua/

Read the thread "Re: Talking to Steve Jobs about Scratch. " at:

http://lists.esug.org/pipermail/esug-list_lists.esug.org/2010-June/thread.html

and

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-June/thread.html

-- Yoshiki


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Re: [IAEP] Crazy Idea

2010-06-11 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:14:59 -0400,
Chris Ball wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>>> Some schools are getting iPod touches (??? is that the plural)
>>> for their elementary schools to use. Apple has a big push with
>>> this and has several demo projects going. I saw one at CUE in
>>> March. Very impressive!  All they need to make it perfect is
>>> some Sugar Apps!
> 
>> Single user Sugar Activities in Python should be fairly easy to
>> port.  Smalltalk, no problem. Full collaboration would be a lot
>> of work, due to its extensive use of Linux-specific libraries.
> 
> Sounds like you're unfamiliar with Apple's ban on interpreted
> languages:
> 
> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/apple-scratch-app
> 
>"An Application may not itself install or launch other executable
>code by any means, including without limitation through the use of
>a plug-in architecture, calling other frameworks, other APIs or
>otherwise. No interpreted code may be downloaded or used in an
>Application except for code that is interpreted and run by Apple’s
>Documented APIs and built-in interpreter(s)."

  Yes but there was an interesting movement in that area:

http://www.appleoutsider.com/2010/06/10/hello-lua/

Read the thread "Re: Talking to Steve Jobs about Scratch. " at:

http://lists.esug.org/pipermail/esug-list_lists.esug.org/2010-June/thread.html

and

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-June/thread.html

-- Yoshiki

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Re: [IAEP] Crazy Idea

2010-06-11 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

   >> Some schools are getting iPod touches (??? is that the plural)
   >> for their elementary schools to use. Apple has a big push with
   >> this and has several demo projects going. I saw one at CUE in
   >> March. Very impressive!  All they need to make it perfect is
   >> some Sugar Apps!

   > Single user Sugar Activities in Python should be fairly easy to
   > port.  Smalltalk, no problem. Full collaboration would be a lot
   > of work, due to its extensive use of Linux-specific libraries.

Sounds like you're unfamiliar with Apple's ban on interpreted
languages:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/apple-scratch-app

   "An Application may not itself install or launch other executable
   code by any means, including without limitation through the use of
   a plug-in architecture, calling other frameworks, other APIs or
   otherwise. No interpreted code may be downloaded or used in an
   Application except for code that is interpreted and run by Apple’s
   Documented APIs and built-in interpreter(s)."

- Chris.
-- 
Chris Ball   
One Laptop Per Child
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Re: [IAEP] Crazy Idea

2010-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:26, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
> Hi All...
> Here is a crazy idea for you all to laugh at, think about, or act on:
> Sugar Apps!

Excellent, where practical. For example, on any device supporting
Linux, whether authorized by the manufacturer or not. ^_^

> Some schools are getting iPod touches (??? is that the plural) for their
> elementary schools to use. Apple has a big push with this and has several
> demo projects going.  I saw one at CUE in March. Very impressive!
> All they need to make it perfect is some Sugar Apps!

Single user Sugar Activities in Python should be fairly easy to port.
Smalltalk, no problem. Full collaboration would be a lot of work, due
to its extensive use of Linux-specific libraries.

> Caryl

Now how about the promised ~$75 Marvell/OLPC ARM tablet computer
running Linux and full Sugar?
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The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
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[IAEP] Crazy Idea

2010-06-11 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Hi All...
Here is a crazy idea for you all to laugh at, think about, or act on:
Sugar Apps!
Some schools are getting iPod touches (??? is that the plural) for their 
elementary schools to use. Apple has a big push with this and has several demo 
projects going.  I saw one at CUE in March. Very impressive!  
All they need to make it perfect is some Sugar Apps!
Caryl 

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