Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] G1G1 (was Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-09-29))

2008-10-05 Thread Nirav Patel
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This just came to me while sitting in traffic - a stylized bumper
 sticker: My other XO is in Mongolia (or Rwanda, Haiti, etc.
 Randomize the stickers or give them a few to choose from:-)) We have a
 lot of creativity on these lists. Let it rip!


I really like this idea.  I whipped up something quick in Inkscape:
http://eclecti.cc/files/myotherlaptop.png
http://eclecti.cc/files/myotherlaptop.svg

 Massive buzz could be generated by
 another technique Apple has used for years: the education discount.
 Offer the pair at $375 for educators and university students, and $425
 for others. Imagine thousands of educators holding an XO in their
 hands, the community feedback potential.

 This brings the overhead of verifying whose an educator etc. Apple
 already has this in place. How do we handle it?

I'm not sure how to integrate this with Amazon, but having a form
asking the person to provide a .edu email address would be a simple,
though certainly not foolproof method.

Nirav
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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] G1G1 (was Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-09-29))

2008-10-05 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Effective marketing is targeted. Last year's typical G1G1 donor was
 probably a generous IT type with a positive viewpoint concerning Free
 software, curious about Sugar and perhaps even willing to be an
 ambassador of the OLPC project. This market doesn't need a marketing
 message; they are ready to donate and merely eager for practical
 information (cost, available by Christmas or not, available outside
 the USA, if so with localized keyboards or not, at same price or not,

+1

That said, while the message doesn't need to be targetted to these
groups, we do need to find them; and while many of them will not be
touched by a MSM publicity blitz, hundreds of thousands of them are
devoted to one or two lists or communities already focused on free
software, new technology, green power, sustainable rural education and
health development, or poverty alleviation.  These are places where
the XO and OLPC as a project are already used as examples of what is
possible. To my surprise, that doesn't mean that these people keep up
with the latest news or know much about what OLPC has done in the past
two years.  I meet a number of them that missed last year's g1g1
entirely.

 partnership. The most effective merchandising could be what Apple has
 done for decades: a few decals/stickers slipped in the box before
 shipment -- easily designed and printed with negligeable
 picking/packing and shipment cost.

 +1

That's a good idea.  I don't know how easy the slipping-into-the-box part is.


 This just came to me while sitting in traffic - a stylized bumper
 sticker: My other XO is in Mongolia (or Rwanda, Haiti, etc.
 Randomize the stickers or give them a few to choose from:-)) We have a
 lot of creativity on these lists. Let it rip!

My other XO is...  or my other laptop is... are great memes.
I've seen some great shirts around the latter concept.

 Massive buzz could be generated by
 another technique Apple has used for years: the education discount.
 Offer the pair at $375 for educators and university students, and $425
 for others. Imagine thousands of educators holding an XO in their
 hands, the community feedback potential.

 I would venture that the less said about the XO-2 at this time, the
 better. I believe the priority should be to combat the perception that
 OLPC has fallen short and discussing the future version might merely
 confuse everyone, in particular leading to speculation that something
 is not right with the XO-1. What G1G1 can do is remind everyone that
 hundreds of thousands of OLPC XO-1s have shipped and are shipping, and
 are serving children from Birmingham to Kigali.

 +1

 The shipment numbers are impressive, and must be highlighted as much
 as possible. Everyone I've spoken to at first thinks of this as a
 faltered project, but then they hear the numbers and their eyes light
 up. Numbers assure that the project is alive and kicking.

Strongly seconded.  Even my tech-savvy friends who think they have
been following OLPC are surprised by even our lower numbers of 200,000
laptops confirmedly being used regularly by children.  The more we can
spread the message of how successful we have been so far, and how
pervasive the change in Peru and Uruguay is already (not to mention
birmingham and kigali), the more we will inspire people to pass that
message on.

SJ

G1G1 updates : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/G1G1_2008
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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] G1G1 (was Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-09-29))

2008-10-05 Thread Nirav Patel
Ah, thanks.

Does anyone know the name of the font used in OLPC marketing
materials, such as the text on amazon.com/xo ?

Nirav

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Nirav Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This just came to me while sitting in traffic - a stylized bumper
 sticker: My other XO is in Mongolia (or Rwanda, Haiti, etc.
 Randomize the stickers or give them a few to choose from:-)) We have a
 lot of creativity on these lists. Let it rip!


 I really like this idea.  I whipped up something quick in Inkscape:
 http://eclecti.cc/files/myotherlaptop.png
 http://eclecti.cc/files/myotherlaptop.svg


 These look neat. BTW, www.laptopgiving.org is going away based on what
 Seth said. Point it to amazon.com/xo

 Maybe we should start putting these up on the wiki under G1G1v2 marketing
 --
 Sameer

 Massive buzz could be generated by
 another technique Apple has used for years: the education discount.
 Offer the pair at $375 for educators and university students, and $425
 for others. Imagine thousands of educators holding an XO in their
 hands, the community feedback potential.

 This brings the overhead of verifying whose an educator etc. Apple
 already has this in place. How do we handle it?

 I'm not sure how to integrate this with Amazon, but having a form
 asking the person to provide a .edu email address would be a simple,
 though certainly not foolproof method.

 Nirav

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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] G1G1 (was Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-09-29))

2008-10-04 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yikes.  Undersaturated billboard markets...  I wonder how such things
 impact the desire to 'launch' new announcements.

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 FWIW, I saw a billboard in the Indianapolis airport this weekend
 advertising last year's G1G1 program!!


 Ed, you're right that there isn't much visibility yet on the net.  We
 should do better (and earlier!) this year, and target more focused
 communities of interest.  I'm sure that the PR group will deal with
 things like billboards and print/radio/tv media, but there are
 hundreds of thousands of people already deeply engaged in missions
 aligned with ours whom we can reach more directly.

 You might add to the lists here:
   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_media

 Especially groups of interested people  (like the readers of
 boingboing and slashdot, which generally pick up OLPC news, but also
 specific mailing lists that only hear fringes of information about the
 project, like environment and sustainable dev groups, retired
 grandparents, c).


 Last year we didn't draft much in the way of specific language for
 different audiences, but we should.   Notes I send to my family about
 the program are very different from the more generic emails that go
 out.

 SJ


Marketing largely happens through two channels: Mass media and
Word-of-mouth. Billboards, TV etc are mass media while talking to your
friends, or SJ's family is word-of-mouth. Lately, the network effect
has added to the power of word-of-mouth, hence the concepts of viral
marketing, etc.

One of the most interesting word-of-mouth channels has been the people
who come by your table at a cafe or bookstore or the airport when you
use your XO, or pretend to use it :-)  Obviously, these parties are
interested. So, an elevator pitch + pointing them in the right
direction should do the trick. I used to carry small slips of paper
with URLs and other information (sort of like a business card) last
year during G1G1. I'm thinking of doing actual business card size
templates with G1G1v2 information and some URLs + a line where I can
write down my e-mail address or phone as necessary (maybe a
double-sided business card). These are cheap to print and impressive
to hand out. Perhaps we can do officially blessed designs early on
this year.

Of course posters etc. at your neighborhood stores and malls are also
helpful. We did these last year. http://opensource.sfsu.edu/node/426

I even renamed my hotspot SSID to laptopgiving.org for a couple of
months in the hopes that my neighbors would pick up on the hint :-)

SJ - any specific mailing list to join for marketing efforts?

cheers,
Sameer
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Associate Professor of Information Systems
San Francisco State University
San Francisco CA 94132 USA
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 Ed writes:

 This is the first time I have heard that G1G1 will start up again on
 Nov 17. As far as I can tell, nobody in the outside world has picked
 up on this yet.

 I s this a leak? Is it true? Has there been any outside announcement?
 Since it doesn't show up in Internet news searches, I am certain that
 there was no press release. Should I Slashdot this?
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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] G1G1 (was Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-09-29))

2008-10-04 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Update: Some of the computer press has picked up the story.

 But we could be all over the Mainstream Media, including having
 Nicholas, Walter, Alan and others on all the talk shows. If they are
 willing. Are any of you? This is the one time of year when ordering
 something you can't get is a positive. We should aim for something
 ridiculous, like a million units. (Although we shouldn't say that to
 the media in so many words.) And then we should provide daily tracking
 of order numbers and of production lead times, to encourage yet more
 people to order as early as possible.

 We should be playing up the connection with the 40th anniversary of
 the Dynabook idea, and of Doug Engelbart's Mother of All Demos. I have
 been in contact with him and his people, and I know that they are keen
 on that. We should be doing T-shirts, mugs, stickers, replica mice,
 and all the rest of the merchandising, and getting several books
 published. Why anybody at OLPC would want to waste the best marketing
 time in the year is utterly beyond me.

 If you don't think my opinion counts, ask Amazon.


I agree with Ed Cherlin in that if G1G1v2 begins in 5 weeks, now is
the time to get the campaign going. Five weeks isn't a lot of time.
What I'd look for in the efforts this year is something a bit more
orchestrated. Materials (posters, cards, stickers, shirts, etc) all
coming across with a consistency in branding, image, look-n-feel, etc.
If we do merchandise from somebody like Cafepress, we don't have to
get into the business of printing, cutting etc.

I cannot setup shop at Cafepress because the logos involved aren't my
copyright, but if someone from OLPC initiates, I'd be glad to help.

Sameer
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Associate Professor of Information Systems
San Francisco State University
San Francisco CA 94132 USA
http://verma.sfsu.edu/
http://opensource.sfsu.edu/


 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is the first time I have heard that G1G1 will start up again on
 Nov 17. As far as I can tell, nobody in the outside world has picked
 up on this yet.

 Is this a leak? Is it true? Has there been any outside announcement?
 Since it doesn't show up in Internet news searches, I am certain that
 there was no press release. Should I Slashdot this?

 This is a Hell of a way to run a global non-profit. We have one of the
 world's biggest brands, and we do nothing with it. We could be The
 Must-Have Gift for this Holiday season without any advertising
 expense, if we would just let the media have the story. Even with the
 manufacturing delays that we can predict. That's one of the draws for
 the Must-Have Gift of the year. Cabbage Patch died the moment you
 could get one off the shelf.

 There is a great deal more I could say about this and other management
 issues, but this is not the place for it. If you want to hear any of
 it, you know where to find me.

 But!! I have a better idea. Who wants to fork the PR program, and help
 write an Open Source press release? We'll have to reverse engineer
 most of the content, but I have confidence in our community's
 abilities.

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Community News
 A weekly update of One Laptop per Child September 29, 2008

 Our appearance outside the Marriott attracted a lot of people to out
 tables; some of them were as far as from Finland; many of them knew
 about those laptops for children and were asking about the ways to
 acquire the laptops (we even got questions: are you selling the
 machines?). So, in addition to conducting our scheduled testing, we also
 served as unofficial OLPC marketing representatives, steering people

 to the Nov 17 opening of the G1G1 event through amazon.com. The time we

 were outside wasn't even the peak lunch time for people to fill that
 square; just imagine the level of attention, if we were there at the
 lunch time!

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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] G1G1 (was Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-09-29))

2008-10-04 Thread forster
Some good suggestions have been made on the list about getting higher 
recognition of the OLPC/Sugar in educational circles.

Colleague, Roland Gesthuizen, and I were able to display three XO's at ACEC2008 
last week http://www.acec2008.info the Australian Council for Computers in 
Education biannual conference.

There was strong interest and high recognition is that the one with the hand 
crank? There were inquiries from two Australian Universities wanting to buy 
class sets for research as well as teachers wanting to buy one. I was able to 
tell them that the G1G1 program would run again but not whether it would be 
available in Australia. The last G1G1 was not.

It seems that there is a lot of unmet potential to engage educators in 
developing activities and lesson resources and to participate in discussions. 
It would be good if teachers, schools and universities had a clear process for 
obtaining laptops.

Roland was able to put together a lab of XO's at the ICTEV2008 conference 
earlier this year by borrowing just about every XO in Australia. The VITTA2008 
conference http://www.vitta.org.au/conferenceinfo is in November. It would be 
good if we could get enough XO's to run a lab session. Maybe there could be a 
conference set that could be shipped round the world as required?

Tony Forster
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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] G1G1 (was Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-09-29))

2008-10-02 Thread Samuel Klein
Yikes.  Undersaturated billboard markets...  I wonder how such things
impact the desire to 'launch' new announcements.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 FWIW, I saw a billboard in the Indianapolis airport this weekend
 advertising last year's G1G1 program!!


Ed, you're right that there isn't much visibility yet on the net.  We
should do better (and earlier!) this year, and target more focused
communities of interest.  I'm sure that the PR group will deal with
things like billboards and print/radio/tv media, but there are
hundreds of thousands of people already deeply engaged in missions
aligned with ours whom we can reach more directly.

You might add to the lists here:
   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_media

Especially groups of interested people  (like the readers of
boingboing and slashdot, which generally pick up OLPC news, but also
specific mailing lists that only hear fringes of information about the
project, like environment and sustainable dev groups, retired
grandparents, c).


Last year we didn't draft much in the way of specific language for
different audiences, but we should.   Notes I send to my family about
the program are very different from the more generic emails that go
out.

SJ

Ed writes:

 This is the first time I have heard that G1G1 will start up again on
 Nov 17. As far as I can tell, nobody in the outside world has picked
 up on this yet.

 I s this a leak? Is it true? Has there been any outside announcement?
 Since it doesn't show up in Internet news searches, I am certain that
 there was no press release. Should I Slashdot this?
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