Re: [IAEP] Venezuela orders 1 million laptops from Portugal

2008-10-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks, Eduardo.
l
 2008/10/7 Paulo Trezentos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi everyone.

 My name is Paulo Trezentos.
 I'm technical director of Caixa Mágica.

Bemvenido!

(Well, that's nearly it for my Portuguese, except for some old Bossa
Nova songs. Sorry.)

 Can you please give me more information about yourselves and the idea?

I don't know how much background information you have, but it's all in
the Wiki http://wiki.laptop.org/ if you need more than I have room to
tell you about. Some people find my video on Expanding the Vision of
OLPC helpful. You can get to it from my page,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mokurai.

We are out to save the world through education on computers, leading
to the end of poverty and some other consequences of general interest.
Peru and Uruguay have ordered OLPC XO laptops for all of their
schooldchildren, and we have smaller deployments and trials in dozens
of other countries. See, for example,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:OLPC_Brazil. Our Sugar software for
Linux is being localized into both português and português do Brasil,
along with 80 or so other languages.

Venezuela has ordered a million laptops for schoolchildren, using your
Caixa Mágica Linux. We would like to put our Sugar education software
on CM and thus on those laptops. We have RPMs of many of our
Activities that were developed for Fedora Linux, and we have started a
discussion with Mandriva about getting those RPMs into their
distribution. So everything is lined up, and now we want to talk with
you about getting our packages into your distribution, and get our
volunteers and staff working with your volunteers and staff.

You should get acquainted with Walter Bender, head of Sugar Labs, and
also David Farning; Jim Gettys, Scott Ananian, S. J. Klein, and others
in software at OLPC; Ivan Krstić, our security maven; and others whom
they can introduce you to.

What else do you need to know?
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Re: [IAEP] Venezuela orders 1 million laptops from Portugal

2008-10-07 Thread Walter Bender
 but it's all in the Wiki http://wiki.laptop.org/

Maybe not all. I'd recommend you check out http://sugarlabs.org as
well, as the key is the software, since the hardware is presumably the
Classmate PC in this case.

-walter

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, Eduardo.
 l
 2008/10/7 Paulo Trezentos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi everyone.

 My name is Paulo Trezentos.
 I'm technical director of Caixa Mágica.

 Bemvenido!

 (Well, that's nearly it for my Portuguese, except for some old Bossa
 Nova songs. Sorry.)

 Can you please give me more information about yourselves and the idea?

 I don't know how much background information you have, but it's all in
 the Wiki http://wiki.laptop.org/ if you need more than I have room to
 tell you about. Some people find my video on Expanding the Vision of
 OLPC helpful. You can get to it from my page,
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mokurai.

 We are out to save the world through education on computers, leading
 to the end of poverty and some other consequences of general interest.
 Peru and Uruguay have ordered OLPC XO laptops for all of their
 schooldchildren, and we have smaller deployments and trials in dozens
 of other countries. See, for example,
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:OLPC_Brazil. Our Sugar software for
 Linux is being localized into both português and português do Brasil,
 along with 80 or so other languages.

 Venezuela has ordered a million laptops for schoolchildren, using your
 Caixa Mágica Linux. We would like to put our Sugar education software
 on CM and thus on those laptops. We have RPMs of many of our
 Activities that were developed for Fedora Linux, and we have started a
 discussion with Mandriva about getting those RPMs into their
 distribution. So everything is lined up, and now we want to talk with
 you about getting our packages into your distribution, and get our
 volunteers and staff working with your volunteers and staff.

 You should get acquainted with Walter Bender, head of Sugar Labs, and
 also David Farning; Jim Gettys, Scott Ananian, S. J. Klein, and others
 in software at OLPC; Ivan Krstić, our security maven; and others whom
 they can introduce you to.

 What else do you need to know?
 --
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 And children are my nation.
 The Cosmos is my dwelling place,
 The Truth my destination.
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Re: [IAEP] Venezuela orders 1 million laptops from Portugal

2008-09-29 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 21:54, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am 29.09.2008 um 11:51 schrieb Morgan Collett:

 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/27/europe/EU-Portugal-Venezuela.php

 The blue-and-white laptops — based on Intel Corp.'s Classmate PC
 design — are manufactured under license in Portugal and are primarily
 aimed at schoolchildren in developing countries.

 No word on software - does anyone know more?

 I read somewhere that they will ship with a linux flavor developed in 
 portugal:

 http://www.caixamagica.pt/pag/a_index.php

 Not very informative to techies.

 It's based in Mandriva, maybe we can make sure Sugar is there?

 A little more information.
 http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribution=caixamagicamonth=allyear=all

 kernel 2.6.22

 Originally based on SUSE, now on Mandriva.

 Has anybody tried running the Fedora Sugar packages on Mandriva?

 Do we need a distro lab where we can run lots of VMs at once?

More information, although I'm not sure how credible:
http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/740ao/venezuela_orders_1_million_intel_classmates_this/

The 30 GB hard drive is partitioned in 3 drives. 10GB Windows and
10GB for Caixa Mágica (Portuguese commercial Linux distro), and 10GB
for the user profiles. All computers will dual boot the two OS by
default.

Regards
Morgan
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Re: [IAEP] Venezuela orders 1 million laptops from Portugal

2008-09-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
The person who should know the most about these matters, specifically
what Ministries of Education think (or at least what they say they
think) is Nicholas. I have not found him to be as well-informed as I
hoped, but we must ask him. Also, there is supposed to be a paid
employee at OLPC whose job includes knowing such things. I have no
idea who that would be, however.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe we should ping education ministries as well, these are the ones
 that are being questioned right now by the public opinion about the
 convenience of spending so much money on laptops. They may be
 receptive to putting some more education (for free) on the machines ;)

Even if they aren't, if Sugar works on the machines some schools will try it.

 Regards,

 Tomeu

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've pinged Intel about Sugar on these machines... (and the original
 Portugal order as well)...

 -walter

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am 29.09.2008 um 11:51 schrieb Morgan Collett:

 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/27/europe/EU-Portugal-Venezuela.php

 The blue-and-white laptops — based on Intel Corp.'s Classmate PC
 design — are manufactured under license in Portugal and are primarily
 aimed at schoolchildren in developing countries.

 No word on software - does anyone know more?

 I read somewhere that they will ship with a linux flavor developed in 
 portugal:

 http://www.caixamagica.pt/pag/a_index.php

 It's based in Mandriva, maybe we can make sure Sugar is there?

 Regards,

 Tomeu
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Re: [IAEP] Venezuela orders 1 million laptops from Portugal

2008-09-29 Thread s . boutayeb
Quoting Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Maybe we should ping education ministries as well, these are the ones
 that are being questioned right now by the public opinion about the
 convenience of spending so much money on laptops. They may be
 receptive to putting some more education (for free) on the machines ;)

That is exactly the state of our reflexion, here at OLPC France. We are planning
on 15-16 Nov. a CodeCamp (
http://olpc-france.org/wiki/index.php?title=CodeCamp_OLPC_France/La_Cantine ).
One of the possible workshop will be a sugarize-workshop during which we will
experiment the installation of sugar on various platforms with various methods
(external media, HD installation, emulation, liveCD, etc.). We have contacted
some netbook-manufacturers to this end... but we are at the very beginning of
our reflexion.

We want to demonstrate the versatility of the sugar environment and the
activities initially developped for the xo an to ping more ministers (Lionel
Laské and Bastien Guerry meet a few weeks ago with the cabinet of the French
Minister in charge of the  économie numérique and we will continue.

Bests
Samy


 Regards,

 Tomeu

 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I've pinged Intel about Sugar on these machines... (and the original
  Portugal order as well)...
 
  -walter
 
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Am 29.09.2008 um 11:51 schrieb Morgan Collett:
 
 
 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/27/europe/EU-Portugal-Venezuela.php
 
  The blue-and-white laptops — based on Intel Corp.'s Classmate PC
  design — are manufactured under license in Portugal and are primarily
  aimed at schoolchildren in developing countries.
 
  No word on software - does anyone know more?
 
  I read somewhere that they will ship with a linux flavor developed in
 portugal:
 
  http://www.caixamagica.pt/pag/a_index.php
 
  It's based in Mandriva, maybe we can make sure Sugar is there?
 
  Regards,
 
  Tomeu
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