Re: Z/Os Storage Mgmt products
R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Responses mentioned the following products: Tivoli Omegamon XE for Storage, Tivoli Storage Optimizer, CA-Vantage Storage Resource Manager, BETA85, DTS, Mainstar products... It raises a question: what are the needs ? IMHO those products are quite different, they address different issues. Last but not least: is ANY product really needed ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland Right!, that was my first reaction too. What are your problems and do you need to solve them with costly softwaretools and manpower or could it be more costefficient to add a couple of TB's to the SMS pool(s) and let SMS manage the whole lot? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What is the correct term these days for region?
Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. .. By definintion fork() must start the new process in a *new* address space. It's a one-to-one copy of the forking process. From a UNIX perspective, everything is copied over; in z/OS's implementation some MVS related things are not copied, e.g. DD-statements. New doesn't not necessarily mean a newly created address space but one that is clean. In z/OS, fork() will ask for a BPXAS, which may be an idle one or one that will be started for that request if there is no idle one (WLM decides). Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE What does WLM decide in this case? If there is no free one, a new one *must* be started, doesn't it? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What is the correct term these days for region?
WLM decides if the system can bear another address space. There is no guarantee a fork() always succeeds. The programmer must test the return code and act appropriately. There are a number of reason codes related to resources not available. Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Single sysplex
Hello list - We have two separate zSeries processors, each with its own production sysplex. CPUX - 2-LPAR basic sysplex with JES2 and ACF2. GRS ring. CPUZ - 4-LPAR parallel sysplex with JES3 and RACF, using ICF. GRS star. Both CPUX and CPUZ share two ESCON directors, disk and tape controllers. Shared DASD is minimal; there is currently no GRS between the two sysplexes. There is no technical reason to combine the totally separate sysplexes into a single sysplex, however, there is significant financial savings for doing so. Therefore, we have been asked to begin a study of the issues and steps required to make this happen. Has anyone successfully combined very dissimilar sysplexes into a single sysplex? I am very clear on the hardware requirments. What are the software cautions about such an endeavor? We already suspect GRS will present a challenge in combining RNLs. Because we will not share much DASD (besides that for couple datasets, MIM and STK control datasets), we don't expect that the two different Security packages will be an issue -- has anyone discovered otherwise? We have been told that JES2 and JES3 will not present a problem in the same sysplex. Thank you, BK Kosmach MVS System Programmer _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Single sysplex
B Sysprog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello list - We have two separate zSeries processors, each with its own production sysplex. CPUX - 2-LPAR basic sysplex with JES2 and ACF2. GRS ring. CPUZ - 4-LPAR parallel sysplex with JES3 and RACF, using ICF. GRS star. Both CPUX and CPUZ share two ESCON directors, disk and tape controllers. Shared DASD is minimal; there is currently no GRS between the two sysplexes. There is no technical reason to combine the totally separate sysplexes into a single sysplex, however, there is significant financial savings for doing so. Therefore, we have been asked to begin a study of the issues and steps required to make this happen. Thank you, BK Kosmach MVS System Programmer Just out of curiosity, where do you see the financial savings? In sysplex licencing? Can you achieve this also by spreading the lpars of both sysplexes over both machines? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What is the correct term these days for region?
Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. .. WLM decides if the system can bear another address space. There is no guarantee a fork() always succeeds. The programmer must test the return code and act appropriately. There are a number of reason codes related to resources not available. I did some investigations, found SG24-5326-00, which explains that BPXAS's are WLM server address spaces (fork initiators). WLM maintains a pool of them to be reused and created when needed. Chapter 5.4 describes what WLM does when a fork initiator is requested: when one is available it is resumed and the application continues, when the pool is empty, the fork request is suspended and WLM creates a new address space and posts the waiting task. Can you point me to docs that describe that WLM takes system resources (besides MAXPROCSYS of course) into consideration to decide whether or not, or when, to create a new address space? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What is the correct term these days for region?
-Original Message- From: Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: woensdag 29 november 2006 13:33 To: 'IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU' Subject: Re: What is the correct term these days for region? Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. .. WLM decides if the system can bear another address space. There is no guarantee a fork() always succeeds. The programmer must test the return code and act appropriately. There are a number of reason codes related to resources not available. I did some investigations, found SG24-5326-00, which explains that BPXAS's are WLM server address spaces (fork initiators). WLM maintains a pool of them to be reused and created when needed. Chapter 5.4 describes what WLM does when a fork initiator is requested: when one is available it is resumed and the application continues, when the pool is empty, the fork request is suspended and WLM creates a new address space and posts the waiting task. Can you point me to docs that describe that WLM takes system resources (besides MAXPROCSYS of course) into consideration to decide whether or not, or when, to create a new address space? Next info: sg246472 says in ch. 9.1.3: Note: The creation of these WLM fork initiators is based solely on demand, not on goal management. This implies that each BPXAS request is honoured, if not limited by MAXPROCSYS. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Z/Os Storage Mgmt products
John Ticic wrote: But these tools do much more than that. Let me give you an example of what CA-Vantage can do (I'm NOT on the CA payroll by the way!) [...] I read about CA-Vantage - it looks very promising. People often use CA-MIA as a storage tool (tape drive allocation across sysplexes). I would say FDREPORT is great tool for reporting (however IDCAMS DCOLLECT + Rexx are free), BETA85 is very nice front-end for HSM (however it is possible to learn use HSM commands), etc. The tool mentioned above address totally different needs. I cannot say what's better. What tool should I suggest ? IT DEPENDS! Depends on your needs. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:32:08 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:08:04 -0600, Tom Marchant m42tom-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Second, the number of cases where multiple decisions need to be made
based upon a single one character variable are rare.
That's a red herring. The TR simply screens out those comparisons
already doomed to failure, and points to they list keys to compare -
those starting with the matched character. It's obviously best if
there is only one.
Not a red herring at all. Again I'll quote from John's original post:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:12:00 +, john gilmore wrote:
declare c1 character(1) ;
. . .
select(c1) ;
when('a') . . . ;
when('b', 'c', 'd') . . . ;
when('x') . . . ;
when('n') . . . ;
otherwise . . . ;
end ;
It is sometimes implemented [very] badly, but it can be implemented using a
TR instruction and 256-byte table in such a way that
'a' == 0001b = 1
'b', 'c', 'd' == 0010b = 2
'x' == 0011b = 3
'n' == 0100b = 4
and all other single-character/byte values are translated to b = 0.
Translated values can then be multiplied/shifted appropriately to yield
multiples of 4 [or 8] for use in a classical branch table. Moreover, the
same code can be reused [with different TR and branch tables] in all such
situations.
John was clearly talking about using a single one character variable to
make multiple decisions.
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Re: Descriptive term for reentrant program that nonetheless is not multi-taskable?
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:08:27 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:19 +0100 on 11/28/2006, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote about Re: Descriptive term for reentrant program that nonetheless: I'd say, it is simply *not* reentrant and has the RENT bit set incorrectly. Anyone can set the RENT bit on his module, but that does not mean it is coded reentrant, which apparently is also true for this code. A module can be placed into the LPA (and thus must be reentrant) Not a logical conclusion. I can place any module in LPA. That does not make it reentrant. Any module that does not modify itself will run from LPA without a S0C4, but that does not make it reentrant either. yet can only have one thread per Address Space (ie: Can not even run multiple copies under different TCBs in the Address Space) A reentrant program is one that can be run by multiple *tasks* at the same time. It is NOT defined as one that can be used by multiple *address spaces* at the same time. If you can find any two tasks that can not use a program at the same time, then that program is NOT reentrant. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Descriptive term for reentrant program that nonetheless is not multi-taskable?
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:32:39 -0700, Jeffrey D. Smith wrote: On 28 Nov 2006 05:51:27 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) wrote: I'd say, it is simply *not* reentrant and has the RENT bit set incorrectly. Anyone can set the RENT bit on his module, but that does not mean it is coded reentrant, which apparently is also true for this code. Kees. You're right, Kees. The module is reenterable. It can be executed by more than one task at a time. Why not just say it is a reentrant job step program? That describes that it is reentrant (LPA-eligible for use by multiple jobs) Did you make up that definition yourself? the word Job does not appear anywhere in the definition of reentrant (or reenterable). The word Task does, and it is nowhere qualified by any restrictions about multiple tasks in the same job. and it must be a job step program (a job executes only one step at a time) so it has exclusive access to the DD names for the step. Trying to run a job step program as something other than that will cause problems. Is it the responsibility of the program to ensure that it only runs as a job step program? It *IS* the responsibility of a reentrant program to ensure that it will work correctly by any two tasks at the same time. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What is the correct term these days for region?
Global Data Center Operations Print Processing Engineering / KIUK 3 Uetlibergstrasse 231 CH-8070 Zurich Phone +41 (0)44 332 2697 Fax +41 (0)44 332 4543 http://www.credit-suissse.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is the correct term these days for region? -Original Message- From: Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: woensdag 29 november 2006 13:33 To: 'IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU' Subject: Re: What is the correct term these days for region? Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. .. WLM decides if the system can bear another address space. There is no guarantee a fork() always succeeds. The programmer must test the return code and act appropriately. There are a number of reason codes related to resources not available. I did some investigations, found SG24-5326-00, which explains that BPXAS's are WLM server address spaces (fork initiators). WLM maintains a pool of them to be reused and created when needed. Chapter 5.4 describes what WLM does when a fork initiator is requested: when one is available it is resumed and the application continues, when the pool is empty, the fork request is suspended and WLM creates a new address space and posts the waiting task. Can you point me to docs that describe that WLM takes system resources (besides MAXPROCSYS of course) into consideration to decide whether or not, or when, to create a new address space? No, I cannot (easily). It is my understanding but I cannot right now tell if this is based on some real documentation that I had read back in OS/390 V1.3/2.4 timeframe when BPXAS were first introduced. Or if it is a pure assumption of mine out of the believe that WLM will not endanger system sanity if an additional AS would do so, be it for a fork() or some other AS create request. This is the list of reasons that a failed fork() may report. It is definitely more that only MAXPROCUSER. │ EAGAIN │ The resources required to let another process be │ ││ created are not available now; or you have│ ││ already reached the maximum number of processes │ ││ you are allowed to run. │ ││ │ ││ The following reason codes can accompany the │ ││ return code: JRForkExitRcChildNoStorage, │ ││ JRForkExitRcParentBadEnv, │ ││ JRForkExitRcParentNoRoom, JRForkNoAccess, │ ││ JRForkNoResource, JRForkVsmListTooLarge, │ ││ JRKernelReady, JRMaxChild, JRMaxProc, JRMaxUIDs, │ ││ JRNoSecurityProduct, JRNotKey8, and JRWlmWonErr. │ Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Single sysplex
If you have the Integrity (MII) component of MIM, you may want to run two MIMplexes for enq managment of datasets: Set up two MII environments in your existing sysplexes, using the VCF (virtual control file) in your basic 'plex, and a CF-structure based star for your parallel sysplex. Convert your GRS RNL's to MII control statments, and specify GRSRNL=EXCLUDE (IIRC) in IEASYSxx on all the images. When you merge your basic 'plex into the parallel 'plex, you may want to update the old basisc 'plex MII to use it's own star structure (or not - YMMV). You won't have any dataset name conflicts in this scenario. I have run as many as 22 images divided into 8 MIMplexes in a single parallel sysplex this way. We also had two other parallel sysplexs of similar ilk... Randy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of B Sysprog Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Single sysplex Hello list - We have two separate zSeries processors, each with its own production sysplex. CPUX - 2-LPAR basic sysplex with JES2 and ACF2. GRS ring. CPUZ - 4-LPAR parallel sysplex with JES3 and RACF, using ICF. GRS star. Both CPUX and CPUZ share two ESCON directors, disk and tape controllers. Shared DASD is minimal; there is currently no GRS between the two sysplexes. There is no technical reason to combine the totally separate sysplexes into a single sysplex, however, there is significant financial savings for doing so. Therefore, we have been asked to begin a study of the issues and steps required to make this happen. Has anyone successfully combined very dissimilar sysplexes into a single sysplex? I am very clear on the hardware requirments. What are the software cautions about such an endeavor? We already suspect GRS will present a challenge in combining RNLs. Because we will not share much DASD (besides that for couple datasets, MIM and STK control datasets), we don't expect that the two different Security packages will be an issue -- has anyone discovered otherwise? We have been told that JES2 and JES3 will not present a problem in the same sysplex. Thank you, BK Kosmach MVS System Programmer _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk .atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowson ecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell In a message dated 11/28/2006 4:02:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, Steve_Thompson writes: Tax dollars at work. No one said that government was logical. Seems like there ought to be an agency for public accountability, guess it would be too political?? Treasurer? State Auditor? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
Seems like there ought to be an agency for public accountability, guess it would be too political?? That would be the GAO. They are responsible for public accountability, however, I don't know if Texas has a GAO. soapbox The ultimate public accountability is the public (you): write your elected official and make sure you vote (for someone who at least promises to listen) \soapbox Mark Hammond -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:55:56 +0900, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP had a story about this IBM Texas outsourcing contract today (or maybe yesterday, depending on time zone). The wire story said that the 31 data centers will collapse into 2. It does appear Texas agencies will learn to get along and work together better. (I hope.) There were also some comments in the article that Texas will greatly enhance security and DR capabilities by assuring that their focused efforts on two data centers will result in a higher quality operation. Makes sense to me. [snip] - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect The Houston Chronicle (my local paper) has an article today about this outsourcing project here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4365995.html Looks like it could be a good deal for the State of Texas. The only problem I can see is that one of the two mega-data centers will be in San Anglo, TX; which is out in the middle of nowhere in West Texas.;-) DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
In a message dated 11/29/2006 7:28:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Treasurer? State Auditor? I was just thinking(a dangerous thing these days)that maybe the definitions and responsibilities come under a CIO for the state, but guess that's too territorial. Among other things Texas does have a good system of higher education, they used to be MVS, but don't know anymore. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Z/Os Storage Mgmt products
the list goes on. A very powerful product. I had CA-Vantage once. It was a powerful tool. And like any powerful tool, it sucked resources. We obtained it at first as a 'free' add-on with a clump of other products we had purchased (foot in the door), and then later had to start paying for it.This was both for license costs and CPU costs. I enjoyed setting up all the automation features and letting it trend everything under the sun. The problem was that I really didn't need everything under the sun. I was micromanaging my storage because I had the tool to let me do it, but that was the only reason. Years later now I've no SRM type product on the mainframe and I'm happy. Almost all my management processes have been automated with various tools like dcollects and sorts and CA-Disk working with SMS. That said... I've now been tasked with finding an SRM for the SAN management team - of which I'm not really a part, but playing a project management role. You see? The mainframe storage environment is so stable that my time is shifting to help the growing and sometimes hubris SAN folks out. Interesting. Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer, Systems Engineering 651-665-4231 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Jones On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:55:56 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: AP had a story about this IBM Texas outsourcing contract today (or maybe yesterday, depending on time zone). The wire story said that the 31 data centers will collapse into 2. It does appear Texas agencies will learn to get along and work together better. (I hope.) There were also some comments in the article that Texas will greatly enhance security and DR capabilities by assuring that their focused efforts on two data centers will result in a higher quality operation. Makes sense to me. [snip] The Houston Chronicle (my local paper) has an article today about this outsourcing project here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4365995.html Looks like it could be a good deal for the State of Texas. The only problem I can see is that one of the two mega-data centers will be in San Anglo, TX; which is out in the middle of nowhere in West Texas.;-) 1. It seems logical to place something of that value away from strategic targets. OTOH, 2. That placement could make San Angelo into a strategic target. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
It is certainly true that I talked about making decisions on the basis of single-character values. I also mentioned that the same simple technique could be used mutatis mutandis for two-character values. As an example of such an application, consider the standard set of two-character Canadian Provincial and Territorial abbreviations: Alberta AB British ColumbiaBC ManitobaMB New Brunswick NB Newfoundland and Labrador NL Northwest Territories NT Nova Scotia NS Nunavut NU Ontario ON Prince Edward IslandPE Quebec QC SaskatchewanSK Yukon YT For it replacing a TR instruction by a TRTO yields a recognizer, and the same thing is possible with the 56 U.S. Postal Service 'state' codes (which include 'DC', 'GU', 'PR', etc.), new-style two-character internet domain names, ISO standard two-character country abbreviations, etc., etc. My original intent, which ought to have been clear to any experienced reader, was not to interdict all use of if-then-else. It was to make clear that the performance of nested if-then-else-if . . . constructs is poor by substituting a little secondary-school algebra for anecdotage. This said, Patrick O'Keefe's point is an important one. Versions of the scheme I set out can be, often are, used as the first stage of more complex multiple-character recognition schemes. I did not respond to Tom Marchant's response to my OP because, after one set of exchanges with him that generated much more heat than light, I judged that another one would be at least equally unlikely to shed light on this issue. Mr. Marchant does, however, play a useful role here., It is indeed so useful that if he did not exist it would be necessary to invent him. His contributions are predictable, but they exemplify a practically important point of view that, borrowing a useful term from C Wright Mills, I shall call Crackpot Realism; and CR needs representation here. We need to be reminded, often, that those who identify the hard-to-maintain with 'complexity', with the use of any but ad hoc schemes, are numerous out there in the boondocks. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme002001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Decimal FP
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 08:44 +0100, Birger Heede wrote: I think Mike's writeup is a very good intro: http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/decimal/ It is indeed, with a treasure trove of references to boot. Thanks for the pointer. I've wondered sometimes why we never saw hardware support for rational numbers. Probably the kicker is the requirement for arbitrary-length integers? Too bad. But I'd guess there's no reason you couldn't implement floating-point registers as rational numbers. The writeup referenced above says in part: The working precision of the arithmetic is not necessarily determined by the representation, but may be freely selectable within the limits of the representation as required for the problem being solved. Implementations may provide very high precision if they wish. So the registers could be implemented under the covers as rationals, and then externalized in DFP representation when a store comes along. It would be nice to set a condition code at that time to let the unwary know whether a precision error occurred during the store. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
fork() (was: ... correct term ... for region)
In a recent note, Charles Mills said: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:59:12 -0800 I am not 1% of an expert on UNIX S/S and/or fork, but the documentation implies that fork creates the child in a new address space, for example, under Usage Notes: 3. If the calling address space uses the macro IARVSERV to capture storage, these pages are not copied to the child address space. Other notes imply that BPX1FRK creates a new job -- and presumably therefore a jobstep task. There have been several good followups to this topic, but perhaps I can contribute to the second 1%. In some respects, the child address space is radically unlike a new job in that it inherits from the parent attributes such as: o real user ID, real group ID, effective user ID, effec- tive group ID o environment variables o open file descriptors o current working directory o file mode creation mask (see umask(2)) o controlling terminal ... and others. It appears the definition of job may be as slippery as that of reentrant. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
9037-002 sysplex timer connect with external source (GPS)
hi all, Is there any shop use the 9037-002 sysplex timer with external source (GPS)any referenceAlso is there a good time to invest on external source. As I know only 9037-002 have a port to install external source GPS. z-109 STP cannot connect to external source GPS like GPS. is that true? Many thanks any comment will be appreciated.. Tommy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: support elements failure
This daybreak the problem was fixed. The HD failure on the primary SE occurred during the daily mirror process to the alternate SE. This caused an incomplete data mirror to the alternate that prevent the boot completion on the alternate (that occurs when the SE assume its primary role). After the hardware fix the primary SE was reinstalled from the original code and upgraded using the backup from HMC (that has all the microcode update and user data). The alternate SE was reinstalled also and after that all the communications where reestablished normally. This maintenance was completely transparent to the LPARs and no power on was required. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Internal Reader Resources
I remember seeing cautions on this list that SYSOUT=(,INTRDR) be used with restraint because of resource constraints. So: o What resource(s)? o How many INTRDRs can (typically) be active concurrently? o Can an installation modify the limit? What are the costs of doing so? o Are the resource(s) occupied from ALLOCATE until FREE, or merely from OPEN until CLOSE? -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Patron saint of computers/laptops
overheard a woman at the airport saying she'd say a prayer for her daughter's computer which had crashed. wondered... who's the patron saint of computers and of laptops? St. Isidore of Seville is given this role. Oh, look, someone's written a lovely prayer to him: Invocation to St. Isidore When programs crash and cursors freeze, with warnings: fatal error, our systems drive us to our knees- can this be cyber-terror, or mere demoniac possession? We need some saintly intercession! Ah, what comfort to implore, Pray for us, St. Isidore! When files we've saved cannot be found (not even by Outlook), when viruses and worms abound, and eat the address book, when through the Windows data's flying, the desperate cyber-slaves are crying, prostrate on the office floor, Pray for us, St. Isidore! When You've got mail! but it's all spam (or files that won't unzip), when all at once there's no more RAM, we start to lose our grip, and filling with the foulest hates, we would defenestrate Bill Gates! Our charitable hearts restore- pray for us, St. Isidore! When downloads fail, when disks erase, when life-work's lost in cyberspace, remind us in our dire frustration: The goal here is communication. Oh, heed our pleas (but don't keep score)- pray for us, St. Isidore! --Mary W. Cox Copyright (c) 2002 Mary W. Cox --From this site: http://www.diosef.org/isidore/ which has more information about St. Isidore. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Usercat Missing Alias
We had a user-catalog-vs-ISPF-3.4 problem that kind of surprised us. When we did a 3.4. request with a Dsname Level of SD* we would see old entries in the listing with data set names of the form SDB4.DATASET.ETC. These were old data set names that pointed to non-existent volumes. However if we issued ISPF-3.4. with a Dsname level of SDB4.* no entries would show up. (There was no ALIAS entry in the master catalog for SDB4). . We suspected that the problem was somehow related to a catalog issue so we listed all the catalog entries in all the catalogs, user and master. We found the funny entries in one of the user catalogs and did an IDCAMS delete noscratch (pointing to the problem catalog) to get rid of them. . Apparently there had been, at one time, an ALIAS entry that pointed to the user catalog, but it had been removed. Apparently by looking for SD*, ISPF cycled through the user catalog in question, but when looking for SDB4.* it quit when it determined that there was no ALIAS entry for SDB4. . Q: Is there a handy utility to check for 'orphan' catalog entries in user catalogs with no ALIAS pointer? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Internal Reader Resources
This answer is based on the last time I looked (it may be different for current versions of JES2 that I don't have) The number of internal readers is set in JES2 by the RDINUM parameter on the INTRDR statement. That's the limit. I don't see documentation allowing RDINUM to be set by the $SET INTRDR command.As with any other SYSOUT file, the resources are in use from ALLOCATE until FREE, although I think you can use FREE=CLOSE to make sure it's freed when closed. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 I remember seeing cautions on this list that SYSOUT=(,INTRDR) be used with restraint because of resource constraints. So: o What resource(s)? o How many INTRDRs can (typically) be active concurrently? o Can an installation modify the limit? What are the costs of doing so? o Are the resource(s) occupied from ALLOCATE until FREE, or merely from OPEN until CLOSE? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Usercat Missing Alias
Sure. T-REX. We have a myriad of diagnostics for catalogs, alias, volumes, etc. One of the standard checks is to read thru a catalog and verify each entry has a valid alias. If not, the record is flagged and optionally displayed for the user. The ending report gives you a nice list of each ALIAS defined within the master catalog for that user catalog along with the number of records associated with each ALIAS. Thus, you can not only identify 'orphaned' catalog entries in the user catalog with no ALIAS pointers, but you can identify 'orphaned' ALIAS entries in the master catalog (ALIAS in the master that does not point to any record in the user catalog). Larry Crilley Dino Software, Corp. http://www.dino-software.com/ 412.734.2853 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warner Mach Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Usercat Missing Alias We had a user-catalog-vs-ISPF-3.4 problem that kind of surprised us. When we did a 3.4. request with a Dsname Level of SD* we would see old entries in the listing with data set names of the form SDB4.DATASET.ETC. These were old data set names that pointed to non-existent volumes. However if we issued ISPF-3.4. with a Dsname level of SDB4.* no entries would show up. (There was no ALIAS entry in the master catalog for SDB4). . We suspected that the problem was somehow related to a catalog issue so we listed all the catalog entries in all the catalogs, user and master. We found the funny entries in one of the user catalogs and did an IDCAMS delete noscratch (pointing to the problem catalog) to get rid of them. . Apparently there had been, at one time, an ALIAS entry that pointed to the user catalog, but it had been removed. Apparently by looking for SD*, ISPF cycled through the user catalog in question, but when looking for SDB4.* it quit when it determined that there was no ALIAS entry for SDB4. . Q: Is there a handy utility to check for 'orphan' catalog entries in user catalogs with no ALIAS pointer? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Under HSM is it possible to delete any UNCATLG or NOT CATG 2 dataset
Tommy You can delete these datasets by function of DFSMSHSM called DELETE BY AGE. Reynaldo CAIXA ECONOMICA FEDERAL - SP BRAZIL On 11/24/06, Jan MOEYERSONS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to delete any UNCATLG or NOT CATLG 2 data set under HSM. If the volume is NON-SMS managed? //FLOGIT EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //HASTOGO DD DISP=(OLD,DELETE),DSN=whateverthedatasettotrash, // UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=besuretospecifythecorrectvolumehere does the trick every time, no? Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: fd_set, select() and z/OS XL C 1.7
fd_set is not ANSI C, AFAIK, maybe TCP/IP?
I guess, you have to specify either a special compiler option, which tells the
compiler to include all POSIX things, or so.
I'm almost sure that the fd_set definition in sys/types is included in some
#ifdef preprocessor statement, which excludes it from your compile due to
wrong compiler options or missing #defines in front of the #include.
A closer look into the sys/types file should help.
Kind regards
Bernd
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2006 11:57 schrieben Sie:
All,
I need the datatype fd_set and the select() function on z/OS but it
seems I'm loosing the fight with the compiler :-(
my source looks quite simple:
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/time.h
#include sys/msg.h
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
fd_set bla;
printf(HEELP!\n);
return(0);
}
And the compiler tells me:
CCN3275 Unexpected text bla encountered.
CCN3045 Undeclared identifier fd_set.
But why?!?!?! What's missing? fd_set is defined in sys/time.h
(SYS1.CEE.SCEEH.SYS.H) and I can't see what I'm missing.
Just for the completeness, here are my compiler-options:
DLL
RENT
STRICT
CHARS(UNSIGNED)
LANGLVL(EXTENDED)
ARCH(0)
TUNE(0)
SSCOMM
TARGET(LE)
LSEARCH(DD:USERLIB)
NOOPT
LONGNAME
SOURCE
ROSTRING
OBJECT
PLIST(HOST)
LOCALE(DE_DE.IBM-273)
EXECOPS
NOSTRICT_INDUC
NOWSIZEOF
NOSEQUENCE
NOMARGINS
NOINLINE
NOLIST
NOOFFSET
NOCOMPACT
NOCOMPRESS
NOIGNERRNO
NOINITAUTO
DEFINE(_OS390)
DEFINE(_OE_SOCKETS)
DEFINE(_OPEN_MSGQ_EXT)
DEFINE(_ALL_SOURCE)
Can someone bring me in the right direction?!?!
Thank you very much,
Michael
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Expaning the Common Page Dataset
Just wanted to float this by the list. I have to increase the size of the common page dataset on LPAR1. I plan on bringing down LPAR1 and run a job on LPAR2 that will delete this page dataset pointing LPAR1's maste, re-allocate it and format it, pointing to LPAR2's master, and do a repro mergecat from LPAR2 to LPAR1. LPAR1's master is a usercat in LPAR2. We do this at DR for the local page datasets and it works, so I think it will work for the common page dataset. Any thoughts ? TIA Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 5596 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
Sometimes these lists take on the character of those described by Sir Walter Scott in Ivanhoe. But which lady's favour will prevail? Chris Mason - Original Message - From: john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, 29 November, 2006 3:22 PM Subject: Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch ... I did not respond to Tom Marchant's response to my OP because, after one set of exchanges with him that generated much more heat than light, I judged that another one would be at least equally unlikely to shed light on this issue. Mr. Marchant does, however, play a useful role here., It is indeed so useful that if he did not exist it would be necessary to invent him. His contributions are predictable, but they exemplify a practically important point of view that, borrowing a useful term from C Wright Mills, I shall call Crackpot Realism; and CR needs representation here. We need to be reminded, often, that those who identify the hard-to-maintain with 'complexity', with the use of any but ad hoc schemes, are numerous out there in the boondocks. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset
Another possibility : while LPAR1 is still running, allocate (and format) a new common page data set with a different name. Change IEASYSxx to the new data set name, IPL LPAR1. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Montevago Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Expaning the Common Page Dataset Just wanted to float this by the list. I have to increase the size of the common page dataset on LPAR1. I plan on bringing down LPAR1 and run a job on LPAR2 that will delete this page dataset pointing LPAR1's maste, re-allocate it and format it, pointing to LPAR2's master, and do a repro mergecat from LPAR2 to LPAR1. LPAR1's master is a usercat in LPAR2. We do this at DR for the local page datasets and it works, so I think it will work for the common page dataset. Any thoughts ? *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset
Ahh !!! Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imbriale, Donald (Exchange) Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset Another possibility : while LPAR1 is still running, allocate (and format) a new common page data set with a different name. Change IEASYSxx to the new data set name, IPL LPAR1. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Montevago Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Expaning the Common Page Dataset Just wanted to float this by the list. I have to increase the size of the common page dataset on LPAR1. I plan on bringing down LPAR1 and run a job on LPAR2 that will delete this page dataset pointing LPAR1's maste, re-allocate it and format it, pointing to LPAR2's master, and do a repro mergecat from LPAR2 to LPAR1. LPAR1's master is a usercat in LPAR2. We do this at DR for the local page datasets and it works, so I think it will work for the common page dataset. Any thoughts ? *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
John Gilmore wrote: Mr. Marchant does, however, play a useful role here., It is indeed so useful that if he did not exist it would be necessary to invent him. His contributions are predictable, but they exemplify a practically important point of view that, borrowing a useful term from C Wright Mills, I shall call Crackpot Realism; and CR needs representation here. We need to be reminded, often, that those who identify the hard-to-maintain with 'complexity', with the use of any but ad hoc schemes, are numerous out there in the boondocks. Okay listers, it sounds like John needs a group hug. I sense a lot of hostility there. I've seen this happen before, usually with those who had a rough time in the A/V squad. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset
If the new Common Page Dataset is allocated on the same volume, can you delete the old one after you IPL with the new one? I think I recall that MVS protects all PAGE datasets if there one active on that volume. From the IDCAMS book Restriction: If you want to delete an inactive pagespace, no other pagespace can be active on that volume. If a pagespace is active, the delete will be unsuccessful and you will receive an error message. Sam Bass McLane Company Temple, TX 76503 254-771-7212 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
I think that it will be interesting to watch, I don't know about fun. I am glad I won't be participating in the project, as it will probably not be very fun at all. Since we are revealing personal opinions, I'm not all that shocked to hear that my state government has 31 data centers. This is a big state, after all, spread out over a lot of land and with a lot of people living here to serve, and with a lot of employees. Now, I know you can have a centralized data center and have remote connections - in fact, the company I work for does just that. (We have 6 warehouses that connect to our mainframe here in Fort Worth; when someone in Little Rock uses his wireless scanner on a barcode attached to product in the warehouse, it reads updates VSAM files here via a CICS transaction.) However, we are one company doing essentially one thing. The state government has many missions, and, while keeping costs under control and cooperating on security and DR are good things, they are not the most important things -- successfully serving the public is. It might not take 31 data centers, but it just might require more than 2. Who am I to judge? I doubt all the IT employees will still be employed when (and if) it is all said and done, and it seems likely there will be some number less of mainframe shops. More sysprogs out there looking for work, I fear, and less places to find it... My two cents, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas AP had a story about this IBM Texas outsourcing contract today (or maybe yesterday, depending on time zone). The wire story said that the 31 data centers will collapse into 2. It does appear Texas agencies will learn to get along and work together better. (I hope.) There were also some comments in the article that Texas will greatly enhance security and DR capabilities by assuring that their focused efforts on two data centers will result in a higher quality operation. Makes sense to me. The story said that the state's IT employees will enjoy a minimum 5% pay raise. That's another thing we sometimes forget: efficiency gains can benefit both taxpayers and staff salaries. Somebody also had smart politics in mind with that 5%+ raise, I think. :-) This Texas case is really interesting, and it will be fun to watch. Personal opinions. As of January 1, 2007, Ben E. Keith Company will no longer accept emails addressed to our bekco.com address. Please change your information for all Ben E. Keith contacts to our new email address, benekeith.com. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset
You'd have to run a batch job from another system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Bass Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset If the new Common Page Dataset is allocated on the same volume, can you delete the old one after you IPL with the new one? I think I recall that MVS protects all PAGE datasets if there one active on that volume. From the IDCAMS book Restriction: If you want to delete an inactive pagespace, no other pagespace can be active on that volume. If a pagespace is active, the delete will be unsuccessful and you will receive an error message. Sam Bass McLane Company Temple, TX 76503 254-771-7212 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9037-002 sysplex timer connect with external source (GPS)
---snip hi all, Is there any shop use the 9037-002 sysplex timer with external source (GPS)any referenceAlso is there a good time to invest on external source. As I know only 9037-002 have a port to install external source GPS. z-109 STP cannot connect to external source GPS like GPS. is that true? -unsnip-- We operated a matched pair of Sysplex Timers for a number of years. They were set-up to use a PC to dial the Automated Computer Time (ACT) service on a weekly basis for corrections. Connection was via a 2400baud Hayes modem and it worked just fine. The PC was one of our retired desktop machines. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: support elements failure
This daybreak the problem was fixed. The HD failure on the primary SE occurred during the daily mirror process to the alternate SE. This caused an incomplete data mirror to the alternate that prevent the boot completion on the alternate (that occurs when the SE assume its primary role). After the hardware fix the primary SE was reinstalled from the original code and upgraded using the backup from HMC (that has all the microcode update and user data). The alternate SE was reinstalled also and after that all the communications where reestablished normally. This maintenance was completely transparent to the LPARs and no power on was required. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink Internet access out to lunch again?
IBMLink via green-screen has been working all week. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TCPIP Racf Protection for application?
Barry and Edward I'm having visions of angels dancing on pins here. Is it not considered best practice these days to make changes only to the PROFILE file used to start the CS IP main address space before using the OBEY command? In days long gone by I contrived to set up a TSO clist for starting and stopping interfaces which relied on the OBEY command naming a temporary data set containing a START or STOP statement. At some stage the obvious equivalent supplied command appeared. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, 29 November, 2006 2:28 AM Subject: Re: TCPIP Racf Protection for application? True, but the command file does not have to be in a PDS and if it is it need not be the one pointed to by the TCPIP proc. Just reinforcing RS's point that obtaining the configuration from a file is not the best answer. -Original Message- From: Edward Jaffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TCPIP Racf Protection for application? Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Furthermore, TCPIP has an OBEY command which allows things to be changed without updating the configuration files. You still have to update a configuration file -- specifically, the one you reference in the OBEYFILE command. The OBEYFILE command allows you to put changes in dynamically, without cycling TCPIP. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CFCC size
One of our CF lpars is defined with 4096MB. The OS messages display says 4029 allocatable. 4096 - 4029 = 67 This is CFCC level 14.04.05 What is size of memory occupiend by CFCC ? I heard two very different answers: 8MB and 64MB. Just curious. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TCPIP Racf Protection for application?
Denis I'm glad you managed to get your e-mail block situation resolved. Also an apology for my last post. I see I misunderstood Radoslaw's point 2. He thinks your programmer is reading the files directly when I assumed the files were being read through the agency of the gethostbyname() - or similar - call, in other words, the official API. It would appear the programmer *is* using the API. Removing the gethostbyname() call is not really a solution so much as a bypass to your problem - as implied by Pat O'Keefe. An application programmer should be entitled to use the gethostbyname() call without being tripped up by the SAF (e.g. RACF) product. I already asked in this thread whether or not it really was a general requirement that that read access be granted to the resolver files when a sockets program needed to use resolver calls. As it is said, the silence was deafening! I'm going to try a separate thread in the IBMTCP-L list in order to try to stimulate some interest in these mysteries. I checked the IP Configuration Guide using the keyword SAF but nothing appears to have been noted on the topic. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Denis Gäbler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, 24 November, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: TCPIP Racf Protection for application? Sorry for not answering, but my webmail account is blocked now from sending emails to bama.ua.edu. However, removing the gethostbyname() call from the program did solve the problem. If the application is using IP addresses the access to the TCPIP datasets is not required anymore. Thanks to you all. Denis. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CFCC size
Johnny: Teacher, I've done this math problem three times. Teacher: Very good, Johnny. I'm proud of you. Johnny: And here are my three answers. Sometimes a single question has multiple answers depending. In this case, depending on CFCC level. In general, over the years CFCC has tended to take an ever larger chunk of the memory landscape. There is the core code itself plus some portion of each structure allocation amounting to CFCC overhead. In a few instances, the one-level increase has been great enough to warrant special notice to customers that some applications might fail if the CFRM policy were not adjusted in advance. R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 11/29/2006 08:35 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject CFCC size What is size of memory occupiend by CFCC ? I heard two very different answers: 8MB and 64MB. Just curious. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wrong device type in HSM's BCDS P record
You can use the FIXCDS command to correct these records. You will need to reference the z/OS V1R6.0 DFSMShsm Diagnosis Guide and Reference manual to get the record layout for the MCP record. IBM dropped lots of information from the z/OS 1.7 manuals, including the MCP record. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Dranes Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Wrong device type in HSM's BCDS P record I noticed in my BCDS some primary volumes appear to have the wrong device type associated with them. Here is an example: .ML1001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 3380 should be 3390 for all of our volumes. This was left over from a conversion years ago. Should I correct the device type? If so how do I go about it. Thanks for all of your help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
MB to Cyl Conversion
Hi, Is there a formula for this ? Also Gb to cyl. Thanks Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 5596 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MB to Cyl Conversion
Accurate or approximate? It depends on blocking factor, media type For 3390s I use 56664 (bytes per track) * 15 (tracks per cylinder) for an approximate value. Hi, Is there a formula for this ? Also Gb to cyl. Thanks Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 5596 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:22:33 +, john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip! I did not respond to Tom Marchant's response to my OP because, after one set of exchanges with him that generated much more heat than light, I judged that another one would be at least equally unlikely to shed light on this issue. The flame is unnecessary. You claim that the use of translate performs better than a series of tests and I questioned that. Translate is a millicoded instruction and it has a long startup time. Your ad hominem attack is totally unnecessary. Perhaps you are referring to the discussion last July regarding sequence numbers? In that discussion, you repeatedly made the assertion that sequence numbers were obsolete, yet you failed to make a convincing case. As I recall, you resorted to personal attacks in that discussion also. additional flames snipped... -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: fd_set, select() and z/OS XL C 1.7
Michael Knigge wrote:
All,
I need the datatype fd_set and the select() function on z/OS but it
seems I'm loosing the fight with the compiler :-(
my source looks quite simple:
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/time.h
#include sys/msg.h
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
fd_set bla;
printf(HEELP!\n);
return(0);
}
And the compiler tells me:
CCN3275 Unexpected text bla encountered.
CCN3045 Undeclared identifier fd_set.
But why?!?!?! What's missing? fd_set is defined in sys/time.h
(SYS1.CEE.SCEEH.SYS.H) and I can't see what I'm missing.
Just for the completeness, here are my compiler-options:
DLL
RENT
STRICT
CHARS(UNSIGNED)
LANGLVL(EXTENDED)
ARCH(0)
TUNE(0)
SSCOMM
TARGET(LE)
LSEARCH(DD:USERLIB)
NOOPT
LONGNAME
SOURCE
ROSTRING
OBJECT
PLIST(HOST)
LOCALE(DE_DE.IBM-273)
EXECOPS
NOSTRICT_INDUC
NOWSIZEOF
NOSEQUENCE
NOMARGINS
NOINLINE
NOLIST
NOOFFSET
NOCOMPACT
NOCOMPRESS
NOIGNERRNO
NOINITAUTO
DEFINE(_OS390)
DEFINE(_OE_SOCKETS)
DEFINE(_OPEN_MSGQ_EXT)
DEFINE(_ALL_SOURCE)
Can someone bring me in the right direction?!?!
Thank you very much,
Michael
How about reading the manual?
X/Open
#define _XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED 1
#define _OPEN_MSGQ_EXT
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/time.h
#include sys/msg.h
int select(int nmsgsfds, fd_set *readlist,
fd_set *writelist, fd_set *exceptlist,
struct timeval *timeout);
Berkeley Sockets
#define _OE_SOCKETS
#define _OPEN_MSGQ_EXT
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/time.h
#include sys/msg.h
int select(int nmsgsfds, fd_set *readlist,
fd_set *writelist, fd_set *exceptlist,
struct timeval *timeout);
Regards,
Henry
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Re: MB to Cyl Conversion
You can allocate space on z/OS in MB if you want: AVGREC=M,SPACE=(1,(1000,100)) for example, allocates enough space in millions of records (AVGREC=M). Those records (for allocation purposes, this is not the LRECL) are 1 byte long. Here our primary is 1000M or approximately 1GB. I use this technique successfully, for example, when allocating an HFS for a product ported to USS where the vendor says you need xMB to install. If you like, you can do an allocation like this and use some other tool to determine the tracks or cylinders that it occupies. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MB to Cyl Conversion
Dean, As Alan points out, it depends on blocking factor. A VSAM dataset with 4K Cis will give to 180 Cis per cylinder. So your cylinder capacity for that block size will be 737280 bytes. As opposed to the total available capacity of 56664 * 15 = 849960 Which value are you looking for total available or useable? -Original Message- From: Alan C. Field Subject: Re: MB to Cyl Conversion Accurate or approximate? It depends on blocking factor, media type For 3390s I use 56664 (bytes per track) * 15 (tracks per cylinder) for an approximate value. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RES: Expaning the Common Page Dataset
I think this restriction is gone. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Suporte Técnico - Software Básico Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Dean Montevago Enviada em: quarta-feira, 29 de novembro de 2006 14:39 Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Assunto: Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset You'd have to run a batch job from another system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Bass Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset If the new Common Page Dataset is allocated on the same volume, can you delete the old one after you IPL with the new one? I think I recall that MVS protects all PAGE datasets if there one active on that volume. From the IDCAMS book Restriction: If you want to delete an inactive pagespace, no other pagespace can be active on that volume. If a pagespace is active, the delete will be unsuccessful and you will receive an error message. Sam Bass McLane Company Temple, TX 76503 254-771-7212 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html AVISO LEGAL BR Esta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. +**+ LEGAL ADVICE BR This message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MB to Cyl Conversion
Good question ! I didn't consider that. I was thinking if I had 600mb how many cylinders would that occupy. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MB to Cyl Conversion Dean, As Alan points out, it depends on blocking factor. A VSAM dataset with 4K Cis will give to 180 Cis per cylinder. So your cylinder capacity for that block size will be 737280 bytes. As opposed to the total available capacity of 56664 * 15 = 849960 Which value are you looking for total available or useable? -Original Message- From: Alan C. Field Subject: Re: MB to Cyl Conversion Accurate or approximate? It depends on blocking factor, media type For 3390s I use 56664 (bytes per track) * 15 (tracks per cylinder) for an approximate value. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset
This quote was from the IDCAMS z/OS 1.4 DFDSS book. I do not see the restriction in the z/OS 1.7 DFDSS book. Sam Bass McLane Company Temple, TX 76503 254-771-7212 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:RES: Expaning the Common Page Dataset I think this restriction is gone. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Suporte Técnico - Software Básico Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MB to Cyl Conversion
Thank you all for the tips suggestions. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Lynn Wheeler Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MB to Cyl Conversion The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dean Montevago) writes: Hi, Is there a formula for this ? Also Gb to cyl. Thanks Dean relatively recent thread http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#5 Track capacity? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#8 Track capacity? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#13 Track capacity? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patron saint of computers/laptops
Oh, that's priceless! Jon snip Oh, look, someone's written a lovely prayer to him: Invocation to St. Isidore more snippage Copyright (c) 2002 Mary W. Cox --From this site: http://www.diosef.org/isidore/ /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wrong device type in HSM's BCDS P record
Thanks for the help! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Friske, Michael Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Wrong device type in HSM's BCDS P record You can use the FIXCDS command to correct these records. You will need to reference the z/OS V1R6.0 DFSMShsm Diagnosis Guide and Reference manual to get the record layout for the MCP record. IBM dropped lots of information from the z/OS 1.7 manuals, including the MCP record. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Dranes Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Wrong device type in HSM's BCDS P record I noticed in my BCDS some primary volumes appear to have the wrong device type associated with them. Here is an example: .ML1001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 3380 should be 3390 for all of our volumes. This was left over from a conversion years ago. Should I correct the device type? If so how do I go about it. Thanks for all of your help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
[SPAM] RE: MB to Cyl Conversion
There used to be reference cards that gave the formulas for calculating DASD device capacity. The one I have stashed away is for 3350 and is GX20-1983. It details the variables needed to accurately calculate space needed based on track size, blksize, etc. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What is the correct term these days for region?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is the correct term these days for region? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John [ snip ] I use whatever will be understood by the audience. Mainly, I use the word REGION because of the REGION= parameter on the JOB and EXEC cards. People can then more easily relate. Yes, I am dumbing down. Not really my choice, but if I keep the mainframe terminology even a bit complex, then the Windows people use that as ammo for saying nasty things about it, such as it's too complicated. To which an appropriate retort might be, Do you mean 'it's too powerful?' or 'it's too flexible?' or another suitable adjective. -jc- Yes, those are bad things as well. If you give people too many choices, it just confuses them. Better to make it one true way so that they don't get headaches. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas snip OTOH, it should be possible to construct a reasonably strong case for considering each address space a server in its own right, with the z/OS image considered the server farm. -jc- ! I __like__ this! Thanks for the idea! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [SPAM] RE: MB to Cyl Conversion
DTS Software has a Storage Administrator Reference Guide written by Steve Pryor who used to write a column for Tech Support magazine. It has all the track capacities, blocksize charts and lots of other stuff. You can get the PDF at http://DTSsoftware.com/refgd.pdf or call 770 922-2444 x164 and they will send you one Duane Reaugh DTS Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [SPAM] RE: MB to Cyl Conversion There used to be reference cards that gave the formulas for calculating DASD device capacity. The one I have stashed away is for 3350 and is GX20-1983. It details the variables needed to accurately calculate space needed based on track size, blksize, etc. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [SPAM] RE: MB to Cyl Conversion
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/am3u1001/B.1. 2?SHELF=AM311903.bksDT=19930630180527 The url above contains a table for determining track capacity according to block size. -Original Message- From: Veilleux, Jon L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [SPAM] RE: MB to Cyl Conversion There used to be reference cards that gave the formulas for calculating DASD device capacity. The one I have stashed away is for 3350 and is GX20-1983. It details the variables needed to accurately calculate space needed based on track size, blksize, etc. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL) snip When will COBOL and PL/I support DFP? --gil Oh, please, don't use DFP for this new facility. DFP means Data Facility Product. We don't want to start up the Acronym Wars again, do we? grin. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
I did a report from MXG data one time which cast much of the mainframe work in (Windows) server terms (i.e. batch jobs were background tasks, , started tasks were Services etc. A little different from the server farm concept (which I also like), but still useful. It does help some PHB-types to draw comparisons. It also helps to point out to such bean-counters that often you are serving the _same_ number of customers with _one_ piece of hardware. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John snip OTOH, it should be possible to construct a reasonably strong case for considering each address space a server in its own right, with the z/OS image considered the server farm. ! I __like__ this! Thanks for the idea! If you can sell it for z/OS, maybe your pitch could be adapted for z/VM, too. :-| -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)
I'm afraid that there is no getting away from DFP and a designation of Decimal FP. It is already used heavily in the preliminary architecture document, SA23-2232-00; and parallelism with HFP (hexadecimal FP) and BFP (Binary FP) make it inescapable. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme002001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IXGLOGR and RACF
Strudwick, Martin wrote:
Group,
I am in the midst of installing z/OS V1.7 and having troubles
with the IXGLOGR task. The following messages are issued when starting
CICS T/S V3.1. Similar messages are issued when IPL'ing while logger
functions are starting and as you can see I have set the definition for
IXGLOGR.** from FAIL to WARN:
IEF196I ICH408I JOB(IXGLOGR ) STEP(IXGLOGR )
IEF196I IXGLOGR.SYSPLEX.OPERLOG.A000 CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z17997)
IEF196I WARNING: INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY - TEMPORARY ACCESS ALLOWED
IEF196I FROM IXGLOGR.** (G)
IEF196I ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(READ )
ICH408I JOB(IXGLOGR ) STEP(IXGLOGR ) 192
IXGLOGR.SYSPLEX.OPERLOG.A000 CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z17997)
WARNING: INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY - TEMPORARY ACCESS ALLOWED
FROM IXGLOGR.** (G)
ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(READ )
I attempted to add the user IXGLOGR with the following command:
adduser IXGLOGR dfltgrp(STCGRP) nopassword nooidcard
But received the message:
ICH51002I NAME TO BE ADDED TO RACF DATA SET ALREADY EXISTS
ICH01010I IXGLOGR NOT ADDED.
When I attempt to display user IXGLOGR I get:
ICH30001I UNABLE TO LOCATE USERENTRY IXGLOGR
Failure messages point to RACF not containing a valid ACEE containing
user, group or name. As well as the started task not defined in the
RACF started procedures table.
How can I check the RACF started proc table? Why the conflicting
information on user IXGLOGR?
Any information you could provide concerning this issue would be greatly
appreciated,
You have address space, IXGLOGR.
This address space needs a userid assigned to.
Useid need not be named IXGLOGR, it can be JOHN if you want:
AU JOHN NAME('STC LOGGER') NOPASSWORD ...other parameters
RDEF STARTED IXGLOGR.* STDATA(USER(JOHN))
SETR RACLIST(STARTED) REFRESH
PE 'IXGLOGR.**' ID(JOHN) ACC(ALTER)
now you have to RESTART your IXGLOGR or re-IPL.
Restart is not trivial:
FORCE IXGLOGR,ARM
S IXGLOGRS (note the S )
BTW: I believe you didn't use SYSPLEX.OPERLOG in the past. There is not
must to do it now.
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Re: IXGLOGR and RACF
Things like this might reach a RACF-knowledgeable audience if sent to RACF Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]. In your case, IXGLOGR is apparently defined as a group in RACF. Check for that. Also, the JOB/STEP part of the message means that you have to define STDATA in the STARTED class for the task. David Mueller | Systems Programmer | DMS/EITS Phone: 850-414-9134 (Rm 107 SRC) | Fax: 850-921-8343 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- I am in the midst of installing z/OS V1.7 and having troubles with the IXGLOGR task. The following messages are issued when starting CICS T/S V3.1. Similar messages are issued when IPL'ing while logger functions are starting and as you can see I have set the definition for IXGLOGR.** from FAIL to WARN: IEF196I ICH408I JOB(IXGLOGR ) STEP(IXGLOGR ) IEF196I IXGLOGR.SYSPLEX.OPERLOG.A000 CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z17997) IEF196I WARNING: INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY - TEMPORARY ACCESS ALLOWED IEF196I FROM IXGLOGR.** (G) IEF196I ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(READ ) ICH408I JOB(IXGLOGR ) STEP(IXGLOGR ) 192 IXGLOGR.SYSPLEX.OPERLOG.A000 CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z17997) WARNING: INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY - TEMPORARY ACCESS ALLOWED FROM IXGLOGR.** (G) ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(READ ) I attempted to add the user IXGLOGR with the following command: adduser IXGLOGR dfltgrp(STCGRP) nopassword nooidcard But received the message: ICH51002I NAME TO BE ADDED TO RACF DATA SET ALREADY EXISTS ICH01010I IXGLOGR NOT ADDED. When I attempt to display user IXGLOGR I get: ICH30001I UNABLE TO LOCATE USERENTRY IXGLOGR Failure messages point to RACF not containing a valid ACEE containing user, group or name. As well as the started task not defined in the RACF started procedures table. How can I check the RACF started proc table? Why the conflicting information on user IXGLOGR? Any information you could provide concerning this issue would be greatly appreciated, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IXGLOGR and RACF
seems like you already have the dsn profile (ixglogr.**), so it sounds more like a permission's pblm. Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
Media. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell In a message dated 11/28/2006 4:02:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, Steve_Thompson writes: Tax dollars at work. No one said that government was logical. Seems like there ought to be an agency for public accountability, guess it would be too political?? Treasurer? State Auditor? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
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Re: IXGLOGR and RACF
On 11/29/2006 2:12 PM, Strudwick, Martin wrote: I am in the midst of installing z/OS V1.7 and having troubles with the IXGLOGR task. The following messages are issued when starting CICS T/S V3.1. Similar messages are issued when IPL'ing while logger functions are starting and as you can see I have set the definition for IXGLOGR.** from FAIL to WARN: IEF196I ICH408I JOB(IXGLOGR ) STEP(IXGLOGR ) IEF196I IXGLOGR.SYSPLEX.OPERLOG.A000 CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z17997) IEF196I WARNING: INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY - TEMPORARY ACCESS ALLOWED IEF196I FROM IXGLOGR.** (G) IEF196I ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(READ ) ICH408I JOB(IXGLOGR ) STEP(IXGLOGR ) 192 IXGLOGR.SYSPLEX.OPERLOG.A000 CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z17997) WARNING: INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY - TEMPORARY ACCESS ALLOWED FROM IXGLOGR.** (G) ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(READ ) I attempted to add the user IXGLOGR with the following command: adduser IXGLOGR dfltgrp(STCGRP) nopassword nooidcard But received the message: ICH51002I NAME TO BE ADDED TO RACF DATA SET ALREADY EXISTS ICH01010I IXGLOGR NOT ADDED. When I attempt to display user IXGLOGR I get: ICH30001I UNABLE TO LOCATE USERENTRY IXGLOGR That would indicate that you have a group named IXGLOGR, rather than a user. You can not have both. Failure messages point to RACF not containing a valid ACEE containing user, group or name. Yes, but it's not clear which address space. Since this happened when you started CICS, it is possible that your problem is that CICS is not running with a RACF identity. Or it is possible that IXGLOGR does not have an identity. With the information so far you can not tell which has occurred. As well as the started task not defined in the RACF started procedures table. How can I check the RACF started proc table? It is either in the ICHRIN03 load module that you installed, or in the STARTED class. Why the conflicting information on user IXGLOGR? Explained above: it can not be both a group and a user, and you probably have a group defined. That -may- be OK, if your started proc table specifies that IXGLOGR runs with a different user ID than IXGLOGR, but is likely a problem. Walt Farrell, CISSP z/OS Security Design, IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Expaning the Common Page Dataset
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 11:51 -0600, Sam Bass wrote: This quote was from the IDCAMS z/OS 1.4 DFDSS book. I do not see the restriction in the z/OS 1.7 DFDSS book. Shouldn't have been in the 1.4 manual(s) either. Things changed significantly in 1.3 Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IXGLOGR and RACF
R.S., David Mueller and all,
Thanks for your response. I added IXGUSER, and issued a RALTER
for the IXGLOGR.* STDATA(user(IXGUSER) info. As well, I added IXGUSER
to the appropriate group with permissions to IXGLOGR.**. I am no longer
receiving RACF fail/warn messages.
Thanks again for your quick and informative responses, now on to the
next fire!
Martin
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Subject: Re: IXGLOGR and RACF
Strudwick, Martin wrote:
Group,
I am in the midst of installing z/OS V1.7 and having troubles
with
the IXGLOGR task. The following messages are issued when starting
CICS T/S V3.1. Similar messages are issued when IPL'ing while logger
functions are starting and as you can see I have set the definition
for
IXGLOGR.** from FAIL to WARN:
IEF196I ICH408I JOB(IXGLOGR ) STEP(IXGLOGR )
IEF196I IXGLOGR.SYSPLEX.OPERLOG.A000 CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z17997)
IEF196I WARNING: INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY - TEMPORARY ACCESS ALLOWED
IEF196I FROM IXGLOGR.** (G)
IEF196I ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(READ )
ICH408I JOB(IXGLOGR ) STEP(IXGLOGR ) 192
IXGLOGR.SYSPLEX.OPERLOG.A000 CL(DATASET ) VOL(Z17997)
WARNING: INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY - TEMPORARY ACCESS ALLOWED
FROM IXGLOGR.** (G)
ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE ) ACCESS ALLOWED(READ )
I attempted to add the user IXGLOGR with the following command:
adduser IXGLOGR dfltgrp(STCGRP) nopassword nooidcard
But received the message:
ICH51002I NAME TO BE ADDED TO RACF DATA SET ALREADY EXISTS
ICH01010I IXGLOGR NOT ADDED.
When I attempt to display user IXGLOGR I get:
ICH30001I UNABLE TO LOCATE USERENTRY IXGLOGR
Failure messages point to RACF not containing a valid ACEE containing
user, group or name. As well as the started task not defined in the
RACF started procedures table.
How can I check the RACF started proc table? Why the conflicting
information on user IXGLOGR?
Any information you could provide concerning this issue would be
greatly appreciated,
You have address space, IXGLOGR.
This address space needs a userid assigned to.
Useid need not be named IXGLOGR, it can be JOHN if you want:
AU JOHN NAME('STC LOGGER') NOPASSWORD ...other parameters
RDEF STARTED IXGLOGR.* STDATA(USER(JOHN))
SETR RACLIST(STARTED) REFRESH
PE 'IXGLOGR.**' ID(JOHN) ACC(ALTER)
now you have to RESTART your IXGLOGR or re-IPL.
Restart is not trivial:
FORCE IXGLOGR,ARM
S IXGLOGRS (note the S )
BTW: I believe you didn't use SYSPLEX.OPERLOG in the past. There is not
must to do it now.
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[SPAM] : News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
Media. Unfortunately the media is loathe to perform their given function. It really must fall on the vigilance of the citizens (which is where the responsibility belongs anyways). Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CFCC size
What is size of memory occupiend by CFCC ? I heard two very different answers: 8MB and 64MB. 2.5 years ago, it was 8MB. When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STDATA (was: IXGLOGR and RACF)
Does anybody have an explanation why STDATA isn't included in a new STARTED entry if it is modelled on an existing entry ??. Catches our RACF people out damn near every time. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DD FREE=CLOSE -- when effective?
The z/OS 1.7 JCL reference says Note: Specifying FREE will not release the enqueue on the data set until the last step that requires the data set completes processing. Am I correct in assuming that does not mean what it says; that what it should say is something like Coding FREE=CLOSE has no effect except when it is coded in the last jobstep that refers to the dataset? I am actually interested in using SVC 99 allocate with the FREE text unit (whose documentation refers in turn to the restriction above). Am I correct in assuming that (barring some other allocation of the dataset) that coding this text unit will cause the dataset ENQ to be released when the dataset is closed? Charles Mills +1-707-291-0908 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)
On 29 Nov 2006 10:53:47 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: Oh, please, don't use DFP for this new facility. DFP means Data Facility Product. We don't want to start up the Acronym Wars again, do we? grin. Don't use acronyms at all. Make up a new word (is CICS still an acronym (or has it gone the way LASER went)? Was SPOOL *ever* an acronym?) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas
Some would say the same about many elected officials :-) But things generally don't happen unless the media is obsessing about something. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: News : IBM and outsourcing in Texas In a message dated 11/29/2006 1:50:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Media. Seems like the fifth estate has it's own agenda for it's own purposes, not necessarily the public interest. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:11:10 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote: Was SPOOL *ever* an acronym?) Simultaneous Peripheral Operation On-Line -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)
Was SPOOL *ever* an acronym? Simultaneous Peripheral Operations On Line. Back when Online was two words. When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Descriptive term for reentrant program that nonetheless is not multi-taskable?
A reentrant program is one that can be run by multiple *tasks* at the same time. It is NOT defined as one that can be used by multiple *address spaces* at the same time. If you can find any two tasks that can not use a program at the same time, then that program is NOT reentrant. Oh dear, the thread that will never die. As far as MVS (Binder and Contents) is concerned, reentrant only means that the code does not modify itself. Period. Yes of course it is possible for smart-asses to produce contrived examples where a program can modify itself AND exhibit correct behavior when used concurrently by more than one task, but that is not the point at all. The issue of whether a program behaves correctly when used concurrently by more than one task is orthogonal - at least as far as MVS is concerned - to whether that program is reentrant. Now can we give this poor ex-equine a decent burial? CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Usercat Missing Alias
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 10:11 -0500, Warner Mach wrote:
Q: Is there a handy utility to check for 'orphan' catalog entries
in user catalogs with no ALIAS pointer?
Not wanting to do Larry and his cohorts {and/or competitors ;-) } out of
a buck, CSI should allow you to do this if you want to play around
yourself.
I have code that goes through all the catalogs to ensure that we don't
have any dataset(s) directly catalogued to any of our resvols. Got
caught once when one of our targets wasn't indirectly catalogued - never
again.
Shane ...
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Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)
In a message dated 11/29/2006 3:29:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, e a macneil writes: Simultaneous Peripheral Operations On Line. Back when Online was two words. Now it is not only two words but also it has been verbed; e.g., The operator onlined the volume. I read this splendid sentence in an IBM problem description ca. 15 years ago. Apparently there is no word which cannot be verbed. Bill Fairchild Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you. [Pericles; ca. 430 B.C.] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)
On 29 Nov 2006 10:53:47 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: Oh, please, don't use DFP for this new facility. DFP means Data Facility Product. We don't want to start up the Acronym Wars again, do we? grin. In 1989 a well-known hacker was asked what the biggest problem of computing in the 1990s would be. He replied, There are only 17,000 three letter acronyms. At least it's not being done on purpose, as DSS is rumored to have been. -- I cannot receive mail at the address this was sent from. To reply directly, send to ar23hur at intergate dot com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Usercat Missing Alias
And if you have CR+ or Catalog Solutions, they also can correct these
situations.
Bob Richards
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On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 10:11 -0500, Warner Mach wrote:
Q: Is there a handy utility to check for 'orphan' catalog entries
in user catalogs with no ALIAS pointer?
Not wanting to do Larry and his cohorts {and/or competitors ;-) } out of
a buck, CSI should allow you to do this if you want to play around
yourself.
I have code that goes through all the catalogs to ensure that we don't
have any dataset(s) directly catalogued to any of our resvols. Got
caught once when one of our targets wasn't indirectly catalogued - never
again.
Shane ...
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Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
I had not heard of the TRTO and had to resort to rtfm. My head is spinning. Why would anyone ever want to use a 64 K(i?)B translate table that has to be on a page boundary (in some cases) unless one is compressing data or converting Kanji and its first cousins to SBCS? What could it ever gain one? What am I missing? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 11/29/2006 09:22:33 AM: SNIP I also mentioned that the same simple technique could be used mutatis mutandis for two-character values. As an example of such an application, consider the standard set of two-character Canadian Provincial and Territorial abbreviations: Alberta AB British Columbia BC Manitoba MB New Brunswick NB Newfoundland and LabradorNL Northwest Territories NT Nova Scotia NS Nunavut NU Ontario ON Prince Edward Island PE Quebec QC Saskatchewan SK Yukon YT For it replacing a TR instruction by a TRTO yields a recognizer, and the same thing is possible with the 56 U.S. Postal Service 'state' codes (which include 'DC', 'GU', 'PR', etc.), new-style two-character internet domain names, ISO standard two-character country abbreviations, etc., etc. - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally privileged confidential communication. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: re : offsite data encryption
Thanks for the whose input I received. As per usual, all answers were great. Some feedback. Unanimous - encrypt if possible. Why - because we can and should (and cyb. There is currently no : Because we must! What - tapes to be sent offsite as well as tapes that remain onsite. A missing tape is a missing tape. Thanks again Robbie Bell -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Internal Reader Resources
Note that RDINUM is not supported at z/OS 1.7. Craig -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Internal Reader Resources This answer is based on the last time I looked (it may be different for current versions of JES2 that I don't have) The number of internal readers is set in JES2 by the RDINUM parameter on the INTRDR statement. That's the limit. I don't see documentation allowing RDINUM to be set by the $SET INTRDR command.As with any other SYSOUT file, the resources are in use from ALLOCATE until FREE, although I think you can use FREE=CLOSE to make sure it's freed when closed. Tim Hare -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
Unicode conversion. IBM is big on that. (Yes, a second cousin of Kanji.) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Talman Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch I had not heard of the TRTO and had to resort to rtfm. My head is spinning. Why would anyone ever want to use a 64 K(i?)B translate table that has to be on a page boundary (in some cases) unless one is compressing data or converting Kanji and its first cousins to SBCS? What could it ever gain one? What am I missing? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
Unicode conversion. IBM is big on that. You have no choice if you're on the way to DB2V8. It's not required, yet; it will be. We're seriously looking at it for inter-platform file transfers. When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Moving LOADxx
Maybe I have a new one for you all! I would like to move LOADxx out of SYS1.PARMLIB and into SYSx.IPLPARM on the IODF volume. Really no big deal, just do it, right? Well, no. I have 2 LPARS, Production and Sandbox. At this time, SYS1.PARMLIB lives on the Sysres for each system, and is directly cataloged to each system's Master Catalog. The HLQ for IODF is in a User catalog shared by both systems. In the Sandbox LOADxx, I'm testing and using '==' and '' for IODF suffix and IODF HLQ to get the IODF specification. In Production LOADxx, these values are hard-coded. Is it possible to create a new IODF on a new volume, naming it MyHLQ.IODFxx.SYSNAME, where MyHLQ is the HLQ found in the hardware configuration token? MyHLQ.IODFxx is the current IODF name. I'm confused at what HCD help is telling me: A production (or a work) IODF name can have a maximum length of 35 characters. The first level qualifier can be the TSO prefix (user ID). The second level qualifier must be IODFxx, where xx are hexadecimal characters (0-9, A-F). To specify more than two qualifiers is optional. The other level qualifiers can be alphanumeric or national (@, #, $) characters or hyphen (-). Example: 'SYS1.IODF05.WORK' If you want to IPL with a production IODF, the production IODF naming convention must be '.IODFxx', where is the high level qualifier and xx are hexadecimal characters. Are more than two qualifiers optional, or must the naming convention be '.IODFxx'? If I specified MyHLQ.IODFxx.SYSNAME in LOADxx on the new volume, would I load a 0B1 waitstate for not being able to find MyHLQ.IODFxx? My hope is that the LLQ SYSNAME is ignored, and the HLQ and suffix are properly extracted from HSA. My intention is to not compromise the integrity of Production by using the Sandbox system. Once I can get my operation datasets off of Sysres, the benefits are obvious :-) Thanks for any insight into my unusual(?) inquiry! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch
We send things to customers all day long. Some are quite large. I have seen 20-30 G(?i)B. They all go NDM compressed. I can't see ever file transfers being Unicode, except in special low-volume cases. And interplatform is a pita**3. If the target doesn't have gdg's, it usually requires multiple transmission ids to overwriting at the other end. And of course the *^** Cobol programmers who think LOW-VALUES (X'00') are great fill values. Ascii servers eat that up -- and forget the rest of the line. oh that vent felt good! IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 11/29/2006 05:51:15 PM: Unicode conversion. IBM is big on that. You have no choice if you're on the way to DB2V8. It's not required, yet; it will be. We're seriously looking at it for inter-platform file transfers. - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The information may also constitute a legally privileged confidential communication. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DD FREE=CLOSE -- when effective?
In a word, yes. Christopher Y. Blaicher BMC Software, Inc. Austin Development Labs (512) 340-6154 The comments made are my personal opinions. BMC Software, Inc. makes no representations or promises regarding the reliability, completeness, or accuracy of the information provided in this discussion; all readers agree not to rely on this information or take any action against BMC Software in response to this information. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DD FREE=CLOSE -- when effective? The z/OS 1.7 JCL reference says Note: Specifying FREE will not release the enqueue on the data set until the last step that requires the data set completes processing. Am I correct in assuming that does not mean what it says; that what it should say is something like Coding FREE=CLOSE has no effect except when it is coded in the last jobstep that refers to the dataset? I am actually interested in using SVC 99 allocate with the FREE text unit (whose documentation refers in turn to the restriction above). Am I correct in assuming that (barring some other allocation of the dataset) that coding this text unit will cause the dataset ENQ to be released when the dataset is closed? Charles Mills +1-707-291-0908 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Internal Reader Resources
In a recent note, Kittendorf, Craig said: Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:10:27 -0500 Note that RDINUM is not supported at z/OS 1.7. ??? Before or after? And does this mean that for the release(s) for which it's not supported that there's no limit, or that the limit is hard-coded in JES2 (what about JES3?) and not subject to configuration? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:13 AM The number of internal readers is set in JES2 by the RDINUM parameter on the INTRDR statement. That's the limit. I don't see documentation allowing RDINUM to be set by the $SET INTRDR command.As with any other SYSOUT file, the resources are in use from ALLOCATE until FREE, And now I'm puzzled again. If an INTRDR uses resources in a way similar to any other SYSOUT file, why is (was/will be) there a specific limit for INTRDRs, and not a limit for all SYSOUT files in aggregate? -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving LOADxx
Why not just use something like LOADPx for the production LOADxx and LOADSx for the sandbox ? Then you can copy your current LOADxx's into those members and coexist. No change necessary to your IODF setup. Otherwise use 2 different IODF HLQ's. You can copy an IODF and maintain the token with no adverse effects (we ship copies of IODF's to multiple sysplexes under different HLQ's all the time -- Token is preserved). On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 17:01 -0600, Steve Horein wrote: Maybe I have a new one for you all! I would like to move LOADxx out of SYS1.PARMLIB and into SYSx.IPLPARM on the IODF volume. Really no big deal, just do it, right? Well, no. I have 2 LPARS, Production and Sandbox. At this time, SYS1.PARMLIB lives on the Sysres for each system, and is directly cataloged to each system's Master Catalog. The HLQ for IODF is in a User catalog shared by both systems. In the Sandbox LOADxx, I'm testing and using '==' and '' for IODF suffix and IODF HLQ to get the IODF specification. In Production LOADxx, these values are hard-coded. Is it possible to create a new IODF on a new volume, naming it MyHLQ.IODFxx.SYSNAME, where MyHLQ is the HLQ found in the hardware configuration token? MyHLQ.IODFxx is the current IODF name. I'm confused at what HCD help is telling me: A production (or a work) IODF name can have a maximum length of 35 characters. The first level qualifier can be the TSO prefix (user ID). The second level qualifier must be IODFxx, where xx are hexadecimal characters (0-9, A-F). To specify more than two qualifiers is optional. The other level qualifiers can be alphanumeric or national (@, #, $) characters or hyphen (-). Example: 'SYS1.IODF05.WORK' If you want to IPL with a production IODF, the production IODF naming convention must be '.IODFxx', where is the high level qualifier and xx are hexadecimal characters. Are more than two qualifiers optional, or must the naming convention be '.IODFxx'? If I specified MyHLQ.IODFxx.SYSNAME in LOADxx on the new volume, would I load a 0B1 waitstate for not being able to find MyHLQ.IODFxx? My hope is that the LLQ SYSNAME is ignored, and the HLQ and suffix are properly extracted from HSA. My intention is to not compromise the integrity of Production by using the Sandbox system. Once I can get my operation datasets off of Sysres, the benefits are obvious :-) Thanks for any insight into my unusual(?) inquiry! -- Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc. (925) 951 4184 MMS safeway.com made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Safeway corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain information proprietary to Safeway and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving LOADxx
You are making the issue more complicated than it should be. g Go ahead an move the LOADxx parm member into SYSx.IPLPARM. For testing purposes you could change the XX to some other suffix and use that for the system IPL. If you have a problem, you can change the LOAD parm back to the original LOADxx suffix. SYSx.IPLPARM and the IODF file do not need to be cataloged. They usually are cataloged so you can find them. You could even use something other than SYS1 for the IPLPARM dataset, like SYS0. Then catalog that file in the same user catalog as the IODF, and create an alias pointer in each system master catalog. Once one system is running, you can then move the other system over. Then remove the LOADxx parms from their SYS1.PARMLIB datasets. On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:01:53 -0600, Steve Horein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I have a new one for you all! I would like to move LOADxx out of SYS1.PARMLIB and into SYSx.IPLPARM on the IODF volume. Really no big deal, just do it, right? Well, no. I have 2 LPARS, Production and Sandbox. At this time, SYS1.PARMLIB lives on the Sysres for each system, and is directly cataloged to each system's Master Catalog. The HLQ for IODF is in a User catalog shared by both systems. In the Sandbox LOADxx, I'm testing and using '==' and '' for IODF suffix and IODF HLQ to get the IODF specification. In Production LOADxx, these values are hard-coded. Is it possible to create a new IODF on a new volume, naming it MyHLQ.IODFxx.SYSNAME, where MyHLQ is the HLQ found in the hardware configuration token? MyHLQ.IODFxx is the current IODF name. I'm confused at what HCD help is telling me: A production (or a work) IODF name can have a maximum length of 35 characters. The first level qualifier can be the TSO prefix (user ID). The second level qualifier must be IODFxx, where xx are hexadecimal characters (0-9, A-F). To specify more than two qualifiers is optional. The other level qualifiers can be alphanumeric or national (@, #, $) characters or hyphen (-). Example: 'SYS1.IODF05.WORK' If you want to IPL with a production IODF, the production IODF naming convention must be '.IODFxx', where is the high level qualifier and xx are hexadecimal characters. Are more than two qualifiers optional, or must the naming convention be '.IODFxx'? If I specified MyHLQ.IODFxx.SYSNAME in LOADxx on the new volume, would I load a 0B1 waitstate for not being able to find MyHLQ.IODFxx? My hope is that the LLQ SYSNAME is ignored, and the HLQ and suffix are properly extracted from HSA. My intention is to not compromise the integrity of Production by using the Sandbox system. Once I can get my operation datasets off of Sysres, the benefits are obvious :-) Thanks for any insight into my unusual(?) inquiry! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
