Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
F wrote:
 We use IMS and DB2 on z/OS today and was wondering if we should consider
 moving to distributed systems like Oracle or SQL Server.

 Reason being, we are concerned about mainframe skill sets on IMS and
 DB2. Also the news around many systems moving away from mainframes keeps
 us wondering what to do.

 
 
This seems funny to me since my recent (past 5-10 years) experience with folks 
claiming 
Oracle and SQL Server skill sets reinforces my opinion that DB2 on z/OS is 
still on rock 
solid ground.  
 
There is a truly scary lack of SQL Server skill sets in today's marketplace 
and not much 
in terms of Oracle skill sets either.  Nothing to bother writing home about 
anyway.  
 
If any company is considering a move from z/OS and DB2 to SQL Server or Oracle 
I 
would truly want to know about it.  
 
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Re: WLM Subsystem Type TCP

2008-05-26 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi Barbara
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.halz002/ziipsec.htm
might be a starting point.
jan

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Onderwerp: WLM Subsystem Type TCP

By chance I discovered that there is now a WLM subsystem type called TCP (not 
mentioned in my 1.8 planning book), apparently used for offloading IPSEC stuff 
to ZIIPS, which we don't have. The enclaves are named TCPENC01 and there is 
one per IP stack. And yes, as they are not defined here, they're running in 
sysother. :-(

Does anyone have experience with these enclaves and has a good idea for a WLM 
goal to start with?

Thanks and regards, Barbara Nitz
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Re: SDSF slow after migration to z/OS 1.9

2008-05-26 Thread Bob Shannon
See PK52910.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-26 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Fri, 23 May 2008 04:25:10 -0400, David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hi,

I have a process that submits up to a couple of hundred jobs for
execution. I require that these jobs execute in the same order in
which they were submitted.

For decades I have accomplished this by assigning all of the jobs to
a specific job class and then insuring that there was never more that
one initiator that had that job class assigned.

I am now running at a new data center. (Guess where...) And I have
just discovered that my jobstream is running out of sequence. For
some reason, my single-threading initiator is selecting jobs from the
input queue out of sequence.

Is there an official way to enforce job execution sequencing?

TIA

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For the longest time before we moved the application to a scheduler we had a 
similar situation where we had one jcl deck that contained hundreds of jcls 
within the one deck.
We also had the need to run these in the order they were submitted and we 
got around this by simply setting the priority of all input jobs to be the same 
priority ($TJ1-,P=10) which meant that all the jobs ran in the order we 
needed.  It could be further qualified to specify a job mask $tJ1-
,JM=MYJOBS* if needed.
It wasn't ideal but it worked for us for several years.

Best regards,
Gil.

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WLM Subsystem Type TCP

2008-05-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
By chance I discovered that there is now a WLM subsystem type called TCP (not 
mentioned in my 1.8 planning book), apparently used for offloading IPSEC stuff 
to ZIIPS, which we don't have. The enclaves are named TCPENC01 and there is one 
per IP stack. And yes, as they are not defined here, they're running in 
sysother. :-(

Does anyone have experience with these enclaves and has a good idea for a WLM 
goal to start with? 

Thanks and regards, Barbara Nitz
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Re: 80-Column Minds (Was: SMP/E question)

2008-05-26 Thread William H. Blair
 ... could you not just use RECFM=V and send 
 84 byte JCL and 208/212 LRECL SYSIN Data?

I assume so, but I never tried to do that. Using in-stream
data sets with more than 80 bytes per card was an extension
to an existing program (that used to require only 80 bytes
of in-stream data) which used two separate DCBs to write
the JCL and the in-stream data. I just kept the one that 
was handling the actual JCL as FB-80 and changed the one 
that was handling the in-stream data to V-whatever. It may
have been the case that for some reason my SVS 1.7 HASP 4.0
mods to make all this work required the use of a RECFM=F[B] 
DCB for actual JCL. I do not remember that being the case,
but lots of this is very hazy now, so I can't really say. 

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SDSF slow after migration to z/OS 1.9

2008-05-26 Thread Max Scarpa
Greetings listers

We're facin a problem we met after migration to z/OS 1.9. It's with SDSF. 

After migration we saw that SDSF is slow in response, expecially  in
displaying output classes. In some cases is VERY slow even if CPU is quite
far from 100%. 

Did anyone encounter the same problem after migration to z/OS 1.9 ? 
Any new (or old) parameter to check ? 

Thank you in advance

Massimo Scarpa

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Re: WLM Subsystem Type TCP

2008-05-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
Jan,

I had found that book myself, but thanks. I did mention that we are 1.8 (not 
1.9), we do NOT have ZIIPs, and my IP guy tells me that we are NOT using IPSEC. 
Besides, the book doesn't give me a good dstarting point for defining a goal. 
Response time? Another execution velocity? The only thing it talks about is 
importance, which makes me thing that I shouldn't put SYSSTC as a service class 
there (that is where part of the enclaves execute and where I have put the 
actual TCPIP address spaces (IP stacks).

Best regards, Barbara


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