Re: PDSE Load Module Format?

2009-04-15 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


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On Apr 10, 5:01 pm, Somebody Somewhere ycthu...@aol.com wrote:
 The internal format of load module records stored on a PDSE is very
 different from those on a normal PDS. Where is that format
 documented? The object input and GOFF record formats described in the
 Program Management manual do not seem to match the physical blocks
 stored on a PDSE. I can decipher some of the stuff in the records, but
 a lot of it remains a mystery.


BUMP!

Please, does anybody out there know where the internal format of load
module records
(or objects) stored on a PDSE is documented?
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AFAIK the format is OCO, so not documented anywhere, which also means that if 
you found out the format, it might change at any moment.

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Bruno Sugliani
What about using the r10pdf.htm provided by IBM ?
Just modifying the source (replacing http:// etc by the real path on the
directory )
For years we have been copying the CD content with its html index onto a HFS
on 3390 and using SMB to put it online.
This way there is one single copy and you can access from any desktop PC in
your shop or even via VPN from outside if you are called at night.
When new books are coming you just do a copy/paste from the PC where the
download took place.(not even needed to FTP)
Of course the HFS on z/OS is 755 protected and available for write to only a
pair of users.
You can use the same DASD for your lookat book format libraries and your pdf
books.
after all we are the masters of centralised data processing :-))
( the best thing about all that is to always have access to your books from
any location in your company and use the same index pointing to the books).
Bruno Sugliani 
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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread R.S.

By the way: is there any procedure to defrag HFS/ZFS ?
I mean some process similar to PDS compress or KSDS reorg.
Is there any need to do it?
How to measure it?

Further explanation: I'm not talking about defragmentation o f volume 
containing HFS dataset, rather about defragmentation of the dataset content.


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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 02:18 -0500, Bruno Sugliani wrote:

 What about using the r10pdf.htm provided by IBM ?
 Just modifying the source (replacing http:// etc by the real path on the
 directory )

This can be done from the web as well, and is (effectively) what I do.
I have a (Linux) bash script that I use to pull the index page, and
strip out what I want - the hrefs and the tables. That way I get an
updated index page with sensible manual names without any effort.
Then it diffs my previous index.html, and generates a file that gets fed
into wget to pull new/updated manuals. Unfortunately relies on the dash
level of the manual number to determine updates - and sometimes IBM
don't bother updating the dash level.
Handy to have a script I can just fire off every so often to get updates
automagically.

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Re: BDAM vs VSAM

2009-04-15 Thread R.S.
BDAM is obsolete technology. It is still supported, but fading / 
moribound / whatever name you choose. It has some shortcomings and the 
list will grow up.


From the other hand there is no planned date of BDAM end of life, and 
ISAM example shows that such notice period will be counted in years.


So, for new project I would vote for VSAM, for existing application 
already using BDAM I would stay with BDAM.


My $0.02
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Re: z/OS 1.10 Enhancement: Predictive Failure Analysis

2009-04-15 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:41 -0500, Karla Arndt wrote:

 The official PFA documentation can be found in chapter 2 of the z/OS Problem
 Management Guide G325-2564-04.

M - it would appear there are (at least) two versions of the -04 (I
use pdfs).
An update to the dash level would be (more) sensible.

Shane ...

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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Jacobs
R.S. wrote:
 By the way: is there any procedure to defrag HFS/ZFS ?
 I mean some process similar to PDS compress or KSDS reorg.
 Is there any need to do it?
 How to measure it?

 Further explanation: I'm not talking about defragmentation o f volume
 containing HFS dataset, rather about defragmentation of the dataset
 content.


AFAIK there is no way to reorganize the contents of a HFS/ZFS filing
system. The only method I know of is to allocate a new dataset, copy the
contents to the new dataset(using the pax command) and then the rename
shuffle.

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Re: SMPE Help

2009-04-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:10:31 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:

At 10:17 -0400 on 04/14/2009, Lizette Koehler wrote about Re: SMPE Help:


I did something similar.  Ran an APPLY but forgot to point to my
SMP/E Root and HFS files.  I did corrupt my live UNIX files

If you can identify all of the hfs or zfs files that were updated at
the point of failure, you might be able to copy the information that
was updated from a different systems UNIX environment if they are at
the same level.  Otherwise you will need to build a new HFS or zFS
file with the correct level of maintanence.


Why not just do the APPLY again with the correct DDDEFs and a REDO on
the APPLY Statement?

That will not correct the damage that was done to the production filesystems.

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:

Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go 
to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested 
in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them 
somewhat meaningful names like zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf 
instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?

I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you 
can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found 
a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the 
titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:

  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html

I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started 
searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a 
directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?

This has been discussed here several times before.

What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.

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The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

We have converted our complex C++ document generation application to 64 
bit mode.
With different test cases,  we see the average CPU time is about 4%  
higher in 64 bit mode as in 32,
but there are test cases,  the CPU usage is  8-10%  less, so here the 64 
bit code faster as the 32 bit code.

Any explanation about this ?
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Pace
In Windows Explorer I add 'Title' to the Explorer windows property.  Every
book I've downloaded had the correct Title already defined.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote:

 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:

 Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go
 to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested
 in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them
 somewhat meaningful names like zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf
 instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
 
 I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
 can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
 a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
 titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
 
   http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
 
 I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
 searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
 directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?

 This has been discussed here several times before.

 What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
 extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
 Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.

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IBM News

2009-04-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Is it just me or has IBM completely stopped updating NEWS since 1/20/09?

 

http://www.ibm.com/news/us/en/

 

I wonder if the person responsible was laid off. :-(

 

Bob

 

 


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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Johnson Jr., Donald E
Can you explain this a little more? I am feeling especially dense today. :)

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In Windows Explorer I add 'Title' to the Explorer windows property.  Every
book I've downloaded had the correct Title already defined.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote:

 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:

 Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go
 to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested
 in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them
 somewhat meaningful names like zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf
 instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
 
 I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
 can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
 a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
 titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
 
   http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
 
 I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
 searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
 directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?

 This has been discussed here several times before.

 What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
 extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
 Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.

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Re: IBM News

2009-04-15 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
He was outsourced off-shore.

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread John P Kalinich
For a given folder, select VIEW/CHOOSE DETAILS... from the toolbar and 
check the TITLE box.

Regards,
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 Can you explain this a little more? I am feeling especially dense today. 
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 Subject: Re: Downloading IBM manuals
 
 In Windows Explorer I add 'Title' to the Explorer windows property. 
Every
 book I've downloaded had the correct Title already defined.
 
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tom Marchant 
m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
  On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:
 
  Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go
  to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested
  in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them
  somewhat meaningful names like zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf
  instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
  
  I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
  can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
  a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
  titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
  
http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
  
  I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
  searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
  directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?
 
  This has been discussed here several times before.
 
  What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
  extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
  Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.
 
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Re: IBM News

2009-04-15 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 08:36 -0400, Richards, Robert B. wrote:

 Is it just me or has IBM completely stopped updating NEWS since 1/20/09?

Maybe no news is no news ...

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Re: Fw: INFOPAC

2009-04-15 Thread Ron Wells
well---back to same problem...opened etr to ibm and with asg...
anyone else getting the 80a-10 abend;s after rsu0812 applied..

the restart of init  not working

move to wlm did not work either ..

may run once but next time abends still have to retry a few times and 
then works..no jcl changes..running in same init and init restarted.

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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:50:37 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:

By the way: is there any procedure to defrag HFS/ZFS ?
I mean some process similar to PDS compress or KSDS reorg.
Is there any need to do it?
How to measure it?

Further explanation: I'm not talking about defragmentation o f volume
containing HFS dataset, rather about defragmentation of the dataset content.

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For HFS, it shouldn't be needed - similar to PDSE (assuming the files within
the HFS aren't in use).   Pages from deleted files or index pages are 
can be reused after the last connection to the file has been terminated.
See similr past discussions on PDSE (especially in the LNKLST) in the
archives.

For zFS, space is reused also.  I suggest you read the zFS admin guide and
in particular the section on zFS disk space allocation that describes how
system and user areas are allocated in the aggregate. 

Do you have a reason or evidence that makes you think you need to
defrag / reorg an HFS or zFS?

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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Jacobs
Mark Zelden wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:50:37 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl 
 wrote:

   
 By the way: is there any procedure to defrag HFS/ZFS ?
 I mean some process similar to PDS compress or KSDS reorg.
 Is there any need to do it?
 How to measure it?

 Further explanation: I'm not talking about defragmentation o f volume
 containing HFS dataset, rather about defragmentation of the dataset content.

 --
 


 For HFS, it shouldn't be needed - similar to PDSE (assuming the files within
 the HFS aren't in use).   Pages from deleted files or index pages are 
 can be reused after the last connection to the file has been terminated.
 See similr past discussions on PDSE (especially in the LNKLST) in the
 archives.

 For zFS, space is reused also.  I suggest you read the zFS admin guide and
 in particular the section on zFS disk space allocation that describes how
 system and user areas are allocated in the aggregate. 

 Do you have a reason or evidence that makes you think you need to
 defrag / reorg an HFS or zFS?

 Mark
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We have a problem when a hfs/zfs grows to a huge size and since partial
release doesn't work on these files to recover the allocated but unused
space we have to perform a copy process to a new dataset.

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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:48:32 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:50:37 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl
wrote:

By the way: is there any procedure to defrag HFS/ZFS ?
I mean some process similar to PDS compress or KSDS reorg.
Is there any need to do it?
How to measure it?

Further explanation: I'm not talking about defragmentation o f volume
containing HFS dataset, rather about defragmentation of the dataset content.

--


For HFS, it shouldn't be needed - similar to PDSE (assuming the files within
the HFS aren't in use).   Pages from deleted files or index pages are
can be reused after the last connection to the file has been terminated.
See similr past discussions on PDSE (especially in the LNKLST) in the
archives.

For zFS, space is reused also.  I suggest you read the zFS admin guide and
in particular the section on zFS disk space allocation that describes how
system and user areas are allocated in the aggregate.

Do you have a reason or evidence that makes you think you need to
defrag / reorg an HFS or zFS?

I don't know, but .

The space on a PC is reused too.  In that environment, the reason is not to
make the space available, but to improve performance.  It seems likely that
after a sufficiently large number of changes, files in the HFS (or members
in the PDSE) could have their blocks scattered enough to perform poorly.

That said, I make heavy use of PDSEs and have never given a thought to
reorganizing them.

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Re: IBM News

2009-04-15 Thread Ken Porowski
Try the Press Releases link on that page 

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Is it just me or has IBM completely stopped updating NEWS since 1/20/09?

 

http://www.ibm.com/news/us/en/

 

I wonder if the person responsible was laid off. :-(

 

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Re: SMPE Help

2009-04-15 Thread Doug Henry
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:46:32 -0500, Tom Marchant m42tom-
ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:


And you might want to run a LIST DDDEF job before and after and look for 
the
ones that contain PATH.


This is not really necessary to run a LIST DDDEF after because the SMPRPT 
output is an excellent report that shows the DDDEF's that are changed with it's 
before and after values when you do a zonedit to change path statements.

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Re: PDSE Load Module Format?

2009-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:16:58 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:

AFAIK the format is OCO, so not documented anywhere, which also means that if 
you found out the format, it might change at any moment.

It's highly unlikely that the format will change in such a way as to
invalidate archival program objects; it's more likely that it will
change in a way not supported by reverse-engineered APIs.

There are APIs for extracting information from program objects.  It
is my understanding that AMBLIST uses those APIs rather than parsing
program objects itself.  (Will AMBLIST process program objects
in Unix files?)

The proprietary status of Program Management information is an
impediment to ISVs supplying cross compilers.  For example,
IBM's C compiler avoids any need for a prelinker by using
undocumented Program Management facilities.  AFAIK, all C
compilers from ISVs require a prelinker step which, in turn,
is highly hostile to processing performed by SMP/E.

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Re: PDSE Load Module Format?

2009-04-15 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote in message
news:listserv%200904150919048306.0...@bama.ua.edu...
 On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:16:58 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:
 
 AFAIK the format is OCO, so not documented anywhere, which also means
that if you found out the format, it might change at any moment.
 
 It's highly unlikely that the format will change in such a way as to
 invalidate archival program objects; it's more likely that it will
 change in a way not supported by reverse-engineered APIs.
 

Right, that's what I tried to say.

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Re: IBM News

2009-04-15 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Ken,

I used to go to NEWS then PRESS room on a daily basis. For now, I am
going directly to Press room.

Bob

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Try the Press Releases link on that page 

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Is it just me or has IBM completely stopped updating NEWS since 1/20/09?

 

http://www.ibm.com/news/us/en/

 

I wonder if the person responsible was laid off. :-(

 

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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread R.S.

Mark Zelden pisze:

Do you have a reason or evidence that makes you think you need to
defrag / reorg an HFS or zFS?


No, that's why I never tried to do it. I just read the thread and the 
question arised. Our HFS/ZFS usage is low, so I could miss the problem 
(yet).



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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:54:44 -0400, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com
wrote:

Mark Zelden wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:50:37 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl
wrote:


 By the way: is there any procedure to defrag HFS/ZFS ?
 I mean some process similar to PDS compress or KSDS reorg.
 Is there any need to do it?
 How to measure it?

 Further explanation: I'm not talking about defragmentation o f volume
 containing HFS dataset, rather about defragmentation of the dataset content.

 --



 For HFS, it shouldn't be needed - similar to PDSE (assuming the files within
 the HFS aren't in use).   Pages from deleted files or index pages are
 can be reused after the last connection to the file has been terminated.
 See similr past discussions on PDSE (especially in the LNKLST) in the
 archives.

 For zFS, space is reused also.  I suggest you read the zFS admin guide and
 in particular the section on zFS disk space allocation that describes how
 system and user areas are allocated in the aggregate.

 Do you have a reason or evidence that makes you think you need to
 defrag / reorg an HFS or zFS?

 Mark
 --
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 Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
 mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/
 Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html


We have a problem when a hfs/zfs grows to a huge size and since partial
release doesn't work on these files to recover the allocated but unused
space we have to perform a copy process to a new dataset.


Yes, secondary extents won't be freed.  But the space within those extents
should be reusable once allocated.  If this happens all the time, then what
is the point of freeing it?  Allocate it larger with no secondary...

Mark
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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Edward Jaffe

Mark Jacobs wrote:

We have a problem when a hfs/zfs grows to a huge size and since partial
release doesn't work on these files to recover the allocated but unused
space we have to perform a copy process to a new dataset.
  


We have the same issue here. Our daily backups and weekly dumps got 
slower and slower and we didn't know why. Turned out many of our HFS/ZFS 
files had grown unbelievably huge (due to temporary spikes in needed 
DASD capacity), yet were practically empty. Reallocating them was no 
trivial task. A real PITA!


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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Edward Jaffe

Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
We have converted our complex C++ document generation application to 
64 bit mode.
With different test cases,  we see the average CPU time is about 4%  
higher in 64 bit mode as in 32,


This is not an altogether unexpected outcome. There are many possible 
reasons: your programs and data areas might be larger--thus taking 
longer to load/move/page, address translation involving a region 3rd 
will be slower than segment-only translation (imagine what would happen 
with region 2nd--stay below 4TB!), and so forth. All code might not be 
apples to apples either. For example, if any service you're calling uses 
BAKR for 64-bit callers, yet traditional STM/LAM, STAM/LAM, for 31-bit 
callers, it will run noticeably slower.


It might be worth using HIS or a commercial execution analyzer product 
to look for program hot spots. We did that and found *one* instruction 
that was so slow, and executed so often, it brought our product to its 
knees. Replacing that one instruction with a multi-instruction 
equivalent made the performance problem disappear. (Of course, this was 
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mainframe software

2009-04-15 Thread Arun shan
Hai Friends..

Is any Software Available to learn JCL and CICS  like NET EXPRESS..?

plz Send me the Web Address

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Wow! Thanks John very much for that excellent tidbit. Sure never occurred to 
me...

Robert

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 For a given folder, select VIEW/CHOOSE DETAILS... from the toolbar and
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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread P S
Que'est-que c'est HIS? Horrible name to Google for, of course. I'm
guessing it's a HIStogram generator of some sort?

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
 Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

 We have converted our complex C++ document generation application to 64
 bit mode.
 With different test cases,  we see the average CPU time is about 4%
  higher in 64 bit mode as in 32,

 This is not an altogether unexpected outcome. There are many possible
 reasons: your programs and data areas might be larger--thus taking longer to
 load/move/page, address translation involving a region 3rd will be slower
 than segment-only translation (imagine what would happen with region
 2nd--stay below 4TB!), and so forth. All code might not be apples to apples
 either. For example, if any service you're calling uses BAKR for 64-bit
 callers, yet traditional STM/LAM, STAM/LAM, for 31-bit callers, it will run
 noticeably slower.

 It might be worth using HIS or a commercial execution analyzer product to
 look for program hot spots. We did that and found *one* instruction that
 was so slow, and executed so often, it brought our product to its knees.
 Replacing that one instruction with a multi-instruction equivalent made the
 performance problem disappear. (Of course, this was an assembler language
 program. You might not have as much control with C++ over such things. But,
 the analysis can still be valuable.)

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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
HIS? Honeywell Information Systems running GECOS?

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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Rob Scott
Ed

OK, I will bite...

We did that and found *one* instruction that was so slow, and executed so 
often, it brought our product to its knees.

Please name and shame the instruction  


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Subject: Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
 We have converted our complex C++ document generation application to
 64 bit mode.
 With different test cases,  we see the average CPU time is about 4% 
 higher in 64 bit mode as in 32,

This is not an altogether unexpected outcome. There are many possible
reasons: your programs and data areas might be larger--thus taking longer to 
load/move/page, address translation involving a region 3rd will be slower than 
segment-only translation (imagine what would happen with region 2nd--stay below 
4TB!), and so forth. All code might not be apples to apples either. For 
example, if any service you're calling uses BAKR for 64-bit callers, yet 
traditional STM/LAM, STAM/LAM, for 31-bit callers, it will run noticeably 
slower.

It might be worth using HIS or a commercial execution analyzer product to look 
for program hot spots. We did that and found *one* instruction that was so 
slow, and executed so often, it brought our product to its knees. Replacing 
that one instruction with a multi-instruction equivalent made the performance 
problem disappear. (Of course, this was an assembler language program. You 
might not have as much control with 
C++ over such things. But, the analysis can still be valuable.)

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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Eric Bielefeld
To me, the problems with HFS and ZFS files seems to be a design flaw.  When 
I was at PH Mining, we had the same problem.  The root file kept growing - 
mostly I think because of logging activity.  The files were kept for only a 
week and then automatically deleted, but the HFS file just kept getting more 
extents.  It never made sense to me, when the total amount of data wasn't 
groing..


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Mark Jacobs wrote:

We have a problem when a hfs/zfs grows to a huge size and since partial
release doesn't work on these files to recover the allocated but unused
space we have to perform a copy process to a new dataset.



We have the same issue here. Our daily backups and weekly dumps got slower 
and slower and we didn't know why. Turned out many of our HFS/ZFS files 
had grown unbelievably huge (due to temporary spikes in needed DASD 
capacity), yet were practically empty. Reallocating them was no trivial 
task. A real PITA!


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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Rob,

I will put in my guess here: MVCL

I have had all too many encounters with that one lately during batch
application CPU-time reduction efforts.

Peter

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 Ed
 
 OK, I will bite...
 
 We did that and found *one* instruction that was so slow, and
executed so
 often, it brought our product to its knees.
 
 Please name and shame the instruction


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Re: PDSE Load Module Format?

2009-04-15 Thread Thomas David Rivers

Paul is right that the lack of documentation is hostile
to cross-linking; that's why our cross-linker only provides
support for building old style load modules (in a TSO transmit file.)
And, we have mentioned this particular impediment to IBM at
almost every possible moment.

But - we do have facilities in our pre-linker that allow
SMP/E to go ahead.  Function we added at the request of
customers to be able to proceed with that  highly hostile
is a good way to describe it though... but, I wanted to make
sure it was clearly doable.


- Dave Rivers -



Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:16:58 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:


AFAIK the format is OCO, so not documented anywhere, which also means that if 
you found out the format, it might change at any moment.



It's highly unlikely that the format will change in such a way as to
invalidate archival program objects; it's more likely that it will
change in a way not supported by reverse-engineered APIs.

There are APIs for extracting information from program objects.  It
is my understanding that AMBLIST uses those APIs rather than parsing
program objects itself.  (Will AMBLIST process program objects
in Unix files?)

The proprietary status of Program Management information is an
impediment to ISVs supplying cross compilers.  For example,
IBM's C compiler avoids any need for a prelinker by using
undocumented Program Management facilities.  AFAIK, all C
compilers from ISVs require a prelinker step which, in turn,
is highly hostile to processing performed by SMP/E.

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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Why on earth would you have log files in the Root? You are putting your
whole USS environment at risk. One out of control user could kill the
system 


Jon L. Veilleux 
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Subject: Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

To me, the problems with HFS and ZFS files seems to be a design flaw.
When I was at PH Mining, we had the same problem.  The root file kept
growing - mostly I think because of logging activity.  The files were
kept for only a week and then automatically deleted, but the HFS file
just kept getting more extents.  It never made sense to me, when the
total amount of data wasn't groing..

Eric

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 Mark Jacobs wrote:
 We have a problem when a hfs/zfs grows to a huge size and since
partial
 release doesn't work on these files to recover the allocated but
unused
 space we have to perform a copy process to a new dataset.


 We have the same issue here. Our daily backups and weekly dumps got
slower 
 and slower and we didn't know why. Turned out many of our HFS/ZFS
files 
 had grown unbelievably huge (due to temporary spikes in needed DASD 
 capacity), yet were practically empty. Reallocating them was no
trivial 
 task. A real PITA!

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Re: PDSE Load Module Format?

2009-04-15 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/4/15 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com:

 There are APIs for extracting information from program objects.  It
 is my understanding that AMBLIST uses those APIs rather than parsing
 program objects itself.  (Will AMBLIST process program objects
 in Unix files?)

Yes, AMBLIST works fine on POs in UNIX files. There were some early
problems, such as high CPU consumption (a loop?) back a few releases
ago, but generally it is quite usable now. Superzap (AMASPZAP) also
works on POs by calling the Binder API. It is a little odd to see an
IEW message from AMASPZAP, but you can get one.

 The proprietary status of Program Management information is an
 impediment to ISVs supplying cross compilers.  For example,
 IBM's C compiler avoids any need for a prelinker by using
 undocumented Program Management facilities.

I'm not sure this is correct. I believe the Binder API contains
sufficient function to generate a Program Object from input formats
that are documented, and/or from existing POs. I admit I haven't tried
that, but I have used the API to retrieve a lot of detailed info from
POs, Load Modules, and Object Modules. It's complex, and clunky in
places, but it does work. I have even managed to call it directly from
REXX, though that just scrapes through by good luck, and can't be used
for all API calls.

 AFAIK, all C compilers from ISVs require a prelinker step which, in turn,
 is highly hostile to processing performed by SMP/E.

Certainly it is, but I'm not sure why compilers need such a step. Can
you give an example?

Tony H.

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Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Steely
I am sending this again because I had trouble getting my mail option
turned back on and I did not see any responses. 
 
We are z/os V1R9. I am having a problem when I send a e-mail with an
attachment through batch. When IBM receives the email the attachment is
showing up in the body of the email and not a separate attachment. We
have a proc which wraps the required stuff around the parms supplied for
an e-mail (from, to, attachment, body, CC, etc). This output is
pickup by SMTP and sent to our email server to be sent. This process
works as design internally and haven't heard any problems on externally
transmitted email using this process except for the email I send to IBM
to process the SCRT (sub capacity reporting tool) data. 
 
Does anyone have a process that performs a batch e-mail process which
they use to send this type of report to IBM. 
 
 
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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Edward Jaffe

Rob Scott wrote:

Ed

OK, I will bite...

  

We did that and found *one* instruction that was so slow, and executed so often, it 
brought our product to its knees.



Please name and shame the instruction
  


LMD. We used it in an unstack routine, that had been updated to support 
AMODE(64) execution, without understanding just how slow it was (and how 
often we executed it). Code got into the field for early testing and 
customers complained. A product called STROBE pointed to the 64-byte 
block containing this instruction. We replaced it with other 
instructions and the problem was resolved.


Unfortunately, instruction timing is a moving target. In recent years, 
some other instructions we use have become very slow. For example, 
EX/NOPR has gone from 15 times as slow as LA on z9 to 95 times as slow 
as LA on z10. (See my SHARE in Austin z10 User Experience for details.)


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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Edward Jaffe

Daniel McLaughlin wrote:

HIS? Honeywell Information Systems running GECOS?
  


z/OS Hardware Instrumentation Services. (Also mentioned in my SHARE in 
Austin z10 User Experience.)


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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Eric Bielefeld
That was back in 1.2.  It never seemed to matter then.  That system is gone, 
replaced by RS6000's in a different city.  You're right though, I should 
have put that type of thing in its own file system.


Eric

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Why on earth would you have log files in the Root? You are putting your
whole USS environment at risk. One out of control user could kill the
system


Jon L. Veilleux
veilleu...@aetna.com
(860) 636-2683


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Subject: Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

To me, the problems with HFS and ZFS files seems to be a design flaw.
When I was at PH Mining, we had the same problem.  The root file kept
growing - mostly I think because of logging activity.  The files were
kept for only a week and then automatically deleted, but the HFS file
just kept getting more extents.  It never made sense to me, when the
total amount of data wasn't groing..

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Mark - it sounds like perhaps the mime headers may not be setup properly 
to be received by IBM. When I was developing XMITIP I ran into several 
issues with file attachments arriving as inline until I discovered 
something (long lost in the cobwebs).

A suggestion - get a copy of xmitip (http://www.lbdsoftware.com) and use 
it in 'debug' mode (use keyword debug) and it will generate a report of 
all the appropriate smtp statements. You can then use that to compare to 
what you are generating and update your code if you detect a mismatch.

hope this helps

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Advanced(?) DFSORT question.

2009-04-15 Thread John McKown
I want to do something kind of weird and I'm wondering if DFSORT can do it
for me. I have a file where each record has three fields. Field 1 is the
z/OS SYSID. Field 2 is a TOD value. Field 3 is a number. The SYSID field can
only contain one of two values (C'DEV1' or C'LIH1'). I want my output file
to have 5 fields. Field 1 will be the TOD field, converted to a printable
date (DC1) and time (TC1). Field 2 is C'LIH1'. Field 3 is the value of the
number for the TOD for C'LIH1'. Field 4 is C'DEV1'. Field 5 is the value
of the number for the TOD for C'DEV1'. Field 6 is the sum of output fields
3 and 5. Would the DFSORT control card below do what I want?

* FIELD 1 IS 1,4,CH (SYSID)
* FIELD 2 IS 5,8,BI (TOD)
* FIELD 3 IS 13,5,ZD (NUMBER)
SORT FIELDS=(1,11,CH,A) SORT ON DATE+HOUR
INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(1,4,CH,EQ,C'LIH1'),
  BUILD=(5,8,DC1,C' ',5,8,TC1,C'|',
 C'LIH1|',13,5,
 C'|DEV1|',C'0|0')),
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(1,4,CH,EQ,C'DEV1'),
  BUILD=(5,8,DC,C' ',5,8,TC1,C'|',
 C'LIH1|',C'0',
 C'|DEV1|',13,5,C'|0'))
SUM FIELDS=(22,5,ZD,33,5,ZD)
OUTREC OVERLAY=(39:22,5,ZD,ADD,33,5,ZD)

Please excuse any column errors. I'm more interested in whether the concept
of doing a SUM on two fields and then summing those two fields to overlay an
output field is valid.

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Re: IBM Journals availability

2009-04-15 Thread Knutson, Sam
Agreed this is not good.  It speaks to pressure against all corners of the 
business to produce revenue without thought to benefits to IBM and it's 
customers that are harder to quantify.  It is short sighted and I would wager 
that many inside IBM would not view it as the best way to leverage this crown 
jewel.  A pittance in subscribed revenue is nothing compared to goodwill and a 
channel to communicate directly to those bright and interested who consume the 
Journal outside IBM.  IT Architects, Industry Analysts, Government researchers, 
key customer personnel.  What a great opportunity squandered for a little bit 
of money. 

Will Redbooks be next?

IBM has provided a huge benefit to both customers and the community at large by 
providing open access.  It is truly regrettable they chose not to continue 
this.  I was so excited when they scanned and made back issues of the Journal 
available including my favorite issue ever Vol 1 No 1 1989 the MVS/ESA issue of 
IBM Systems Journal.

The subscription requirement is a hurdle that many interested folks will not be 
able to get around including academic, commercial, and individual enthusiast 
audiences.  The price is unrealistic especially so for an individual.  

Dr. Dobbs Journal offers the entire archive on DVD for $50! 

https://store.ddj.com/product/4/Dr.-Dobb%27s-Developer-Library-DVD-Release-5 

I would be happy to pay IBM $50 for a DVD of the Journals and/or do a qualified 
subscription for free on-line access with permission to email me whatever 
they want from time to time and help them fund public access by advertising for 
internal IBM customers.  

Argh!

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problem in using a new page segment

2009-04-15 Thread Leah Dela Cruz
Hello.

I'm new to OGL/PPFA programming and I'm assigned to work on using a new page
segment.

I have modified an existing overlay to use the new pagesegment and compiled
it using the following jcl:

//JOBLIB DD DSN=SYS1.OGL.LINKLIB,DISP=SHR   
//*--- 
//* OVERLAY GENERATION LANGUAGE - OGL/370 VERSION 1.1.0 
//* SAMPLE OVERLAY 1   
//*--- 
//OVERLAY  EXEC PGM=DZIOVRLY,REGION=4M,PARM='SEQ,DEF'   
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SAMPLE   DD  SYSOUT=* 
//OVRLIB   DD  DSN=MYLIB.OVERLAY.LOADLIB,DISP=SHR   
//FONTDD   DD  DSN=MYLIB.XGROUP.FONT300,DISP=SHR 
//SEGDDDD  DSN=MYLIB.PSEG.LOADLIB,DISP=SHR   
//SYSINDD  DSN=MYLIB.OVERLAY.SRCE(TXXXSG),DISP=SHR   


I also recompiled the FORMDEF member which uses the above overlay using the
following:

//STEP1EXEC PGM=AKQPPFA   
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SYSINDD  DSN=MYLIB.FORMDEF.SRCE(TXXXFD),DISP=SHR
//FORMLIB  DD  DSN=MYLIB.FDEFLIB.LOCAL,DISP=SHR   



But when I ran my jcl to print out the form, the changes I made to the
overlay were not picked up. The old pagesegment used by the overlay still
appears in the print output.

By the way, the modified overlay and formdef and the new page segment were
stored in a server where the printer is supposed to get it from.

Could anyone please help? I'm not sure what I missed, if it were the jcls i
used for compiling. Should have I included the OVERLAY LOADLIB when I
recompiled the FORMDEF? 

Any suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-15 Thread Knutson, Sam
I just got this from our IBM CE today.  Our firewall rules are written with IP 
addresses not DNS addresses so this impacts us maybe you too.

We have been informed that the external IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com 
will be changing on April 26 2009. 
This may affect data off-load from IBM equipment such as PE packages and data 
dumps if the machine is configured for FTP data off-load via IP address rather 
than host name (due to no DNS being available). 

Current external IP address: 207.25.253.31 
New external IP address: 170.225.15.31

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Wilkins, Mike
I do basically the same as Bruno.

I save the r9pdf.htm page, replace the hyperlinks with the dir path
containing the manuals, then download all manuals into the same dir
keeping the original name.  Works great, AND, you can search the entire
(r9pdf.html) page to look for what you want.
Also, depending on the version of Adobe, you can also search within all
manuals looking for what you want (in extreme cases).

Mike Wilkins 
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Subject: Downloading IBM manuals

Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go to the IBM
library page and download each manual I'm interested in (i.e. most in
the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them somewhat meaningful names
like zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf instead of iea2e291.pdf for
example.  What do you do?   

I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you can
easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found a PDF
library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the titles by
the file names.  See this web page I created: 

  http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html

I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions? 

 

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Re: IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:50:25 -0400, Knutson, Sam sknut...@geico.com wrote:

I just got this from our IBM CE today.  Our firewall rules are written with
IP addresses not DNS addresses so this impacts us maybe you too.

We have been informed that the external IP address for
testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009.
This may affect data off-load from IBM equipment such as PE packages and
data dumps if the machine is configured for FTP data off-load via IP address
rather than host name (due to no DNS being available).

Current external IP address: 207.25.253.31
New external IP address: 170.225.15.31



Any official documentation I can point someone to?   We didn't hear about
this - at least not yet.  I just FTPed into testcase and there is nothing in
the welcome message. Our firewall changes don't happen quickly.  They
have to go through multiple levels of authorization, security, risk management, 
etc.   April 26th isn't enough time to get the change done with the usual
process if a change is required here.

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Re: Advanced(?) DFSORT question.

2009-04-15 Thread Frank Yaeger
John McKown wrote on 04/15/2009 10:19:33 AM:
 I want to do something kind of weird and I'm wondering if DFSORT can do
it
 for me. I have a file where each record has three fields. Field 1 is the
 z/OS SYSID. Field 2 is a TOD value. Field 3 is a number. The SYSID field
can
 only contain one of two values (C'DEV1' or C'LIH1'). I want my output
file
 to have 5 fields. Field 1 will be the TOD field, converted to a printable
 date (DC1) and time (TC1). Field 2 is C'LIH1'. Field 3 is the value of
the
 number for the TOD for C'LIH1'. Field 4 is C'DEV1'. Field 5 is the
value
 of the number for the TOD for C'DEV1'. Field 6 is the sum of output
fields
 3 and 5. Would the DFSORT control card below do what I want?

 * FIELD 1 IS 1,4,CH (SYSID)
 * FIELD 2 IS 5,8,BI (TOD)
 * FIELD 3 IS 13,5,ZD (NUMBER)
 SORT FIELDS=(1,11,CH,A) SORT ON DATE+HOUR
 INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(1,4,CH,EQ,C'LIH1'),
   BUILD=(5,8,DC1,C' ',5,8,TC1,C'|',
  C'LIH1|',13,5,
  C'|DEV1|',C'0|0')),
   IFTHEN=(WHEN=(1,4,CH,EQ,C'DEV1'),
   BUILD=(5,8,DC,C' ',5,8,TC1,C'|',
  C'LIH1|',C'0',
  C'|DEV1|',13,5,C'|0'))
 SUM FIELDS=(22,5,ZD,33,5,ZD)
 OUTREC OVERLAY=(39:22,5,ZD,ADD,33,5,ZD)

 Please excuse any column errors. I'm more interested in whether the
concept
 of doing a SUM on two fields and then summing those two fields to overlay
an
 output field is valid.

Yes, that concept is valid.  I changed your 5,8,DC in the second IFTHEN
clause
to 5,8,DC1 and ran a test and it worked.

You could also eliminate the OUTREC statement by doing it with these DFSORT
control statements (you don't need ZDPRINT if it's your default):

  INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(1,4,CH,EQ,C'LIH1'),
BUILD=(5,8,DC1,C' ',5,8,TC1,C'|',
   C'LIH1|',13,5,
   C'|DEV1|',C'0|',13,5)),
IFTHEN=(WHEN=(1,4,CH,EQ,C'DEV1'),
BUILD=(5,8,DC1,C' ',5,8,TC1,C'|',
   C'LIH1|',C'0',
   C'|DEV1|',13,5,C'|',13,5))
  SORT FIELDS=(1,11,CH,A) SORT ON DATE+HOUR
  OPTION ZDPRINT
  SUM FIELDS=(22,5,ZD,33,5,ZD,39,5,ZD)

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com
Specialties: FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, DATASORT, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration

 = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread David Alcock
   http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html 


If you tried to go to that link and it failed, try again.  My web provider 
looks to have changed owners and possibly data centers.   There's nothing 
terribly exciting there.  I think I'll try Bruno's method tonight. 

I wish IBM would make it easier to download by bookshelf.  

 

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
   As below, Softcopy Librarian. Just get'em all. I even brought the
VSE's down last time just in case some cost saving idea needs refuting
or support?

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:26 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Downloading IBM manuals
 
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:03:07 -0700, David Alcock wrote:
 
 Every time a new z/OS operating system level comes along I go
 to the IBM library page and download each manual I'm interested
 in (i.e. most in the MVS bookshelf) one at a time and give them
 somewhat meaningful names like zos 110 init and tuning ref.pdf
 instead of iea2e291.pdf for example.  What do you do?
 
 I just tried out using the DownloadThemAll Firefox add-on and you
 can easily get all manuals with the cryptic 8.3 filenames.   I found
 a PDF library for Python that is easy enough to use to display the
 titles by the file names.  See this web page I created:
 
   http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html
 
 I'm probably missing a lot easier way of doing things.  I started
 searching for some type of freeware that displays PDF titles in a
 directory but have been unlucky so far.  Any suggestions?
 
 This has been discussed here several times before.
 
 What I do is use the Softcopy Librarian to get the bookshelves and the
 extended bookshelves that I am interested in.  Then I use the Softcopy
 Reader to find the book (either PDF or boo) that I want to read.
 
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Re: problem in using a new page segment

2009-04-15 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
The Overlay load library does not have to be in the library list for a
formdef compile. In fact you don't have to recompile the formdef to use
a new overlay as long as the name of the overlay has not changed. If you
are using PSF on z/OS then it pulls all resources together before
sending the print job to the printer.  If you are printing from a server
using software like InfoPrint/Windows then it gathers the resources
together.  The question is where does the server get those resources.
If it gets them from the server itself, then how is the resource
downloaded from z/OS to the server.  We use PSF Download to send our
reports to InfoPrint/Windows.  Our version of PSF Download does not
download the resources with the report so we have a procedure that
periodically downloads all PSF resources from z/OS to the
InfoPrint/Windows server using FTP.  


Brad Wissink
Information Technology Services
Iowa State University
515-294-3088

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Subject: problem in using a new page segment

Hello.

I'm new to OGL/PPFA programming and I'm assigned to work on using a new
page segment.

I have modified an existing overlay to use the new pagesegment and
compiled it using the following jcl:

//JOBLIB DD DSN=SYS1.OGL.LINKLIB,DISP=SHR   
//*--- 
//* OVERLAY GENERATION LANGUAGE - OGL/370 VERSION 1.1.0 
//* SAMPLE OVERLAY 1   
//*--- 
//OVERLAY  EXEC PGM=DZIOVRLY,REGION=4M,PARM='SEQ,DEF'   
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SAMPLE   DD  SYSOUT=* 
//OVRLIB   DD  DSN=MYLIB.OVERLAY.LOADLIB,DISP=SHR   
//FONTDD   DD  DSN=MYLIB.XGROUP.FONT300,DISP=SHR 
//SEGDDDD  DSN=MYLIB.PSEG.LOADLIB,DISP=SHR   
//SYSINDD  DSN=MYLIB.OVERLAY.SRCE(TXXXSG),DISP=SHR   


I also recompiled the FORMDEF member which uses the above overlay using
the
following:

//STEP1EXEC PGM=AKQPPFA   
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SYSUDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SYSINDD  DSN=MYLIB.FORMDEF.SRCE(TXXXFD),DISP=SHR
//FORMLIB  DD  DSN=MYLIB.FDEFLIB.LOCAL,DISP=SHR   



But when I ran my jcl to print out the form, the changes I made to the
overlay were not picked up. The old pagesegment used by the overlay
still appears in the print output.

By the way, the modified overlay and formdef and the new page segment
were stored in a server where the printer is supposed to get it from.

Could anyone please help? I'm not sure what I missed, if it were the
jcls i used for compiling. Should have I included the OVERLAY LOADLIB
when I recompiled the FORMDEF? 

Any suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Advanced(?) DFSORT question.

2009-04-15 Thread John McKown
Frank,

Thanks for the validation and the enhancement!

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Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?

2009-04-15 Thread Robert
Hmmm, I'm hoping your version and  / or sysplex zFS is read only. 
also keep log files in their own separate zfs or copy them off and clear them 
on a routine basis. 


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Subject: Re: Copy/restore OMVS.ROOT - what about defrag?
We have a problem when a hfs/zfs grows to a huge size and since partial
release doesn't work on these files to recover the allocated but unused
space we have to perform a copy process to a new dataset.

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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Hal Merritt
They did. The Softcopy Librarian product that Tom spoke about is about as 
painless as it gets. A couple of keystrokes, and go home while gigabytes of 
books congest the company network.  

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   http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsintosh/IBM_Manuals/index.html 


If you tried to go to that link and it failed, try again.  My web provider 
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terribly exciting there.  I think I'll try Bruno's method tonight. 

I wish IBM would make it easier to download by bookshelf.  

 

 
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Re: Downloading IBM manuals

2009-04-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:11:27 -0700, David Alcock wrote:

I wish IBM would make it easier to download by bookshelf.

Have you tried using the Softcopy Librarian?

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CA7 Batch Runs but not Marked Complete

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick Falcone
I'm looking at an issue where a couple of quick running batch jobs, 1minute or 
less, started and finished but CA7 does not have any indication that they 
completed successfully. I'm still looking at this problem but don't have any 
leads at this point. Anyone familiar with type anomalous event? Operating 
System is z/OS 1.7 and CA-7 is Version

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CA7 Batch Runs but not Marked Complete

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick Falcone
I'm looking at an issue where a couple of quick running batch jobs, 1minute or 
less, started and finished but CA7 does not have any indication that they 
completed successfully. I'm still looking at this problem but don't have any 
leads at this point. Anyone familiar with type anomalous event? Operating 
System is z/OS 1.7 and CA-7 is Version 11

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:30:33 -0500, Paul Gilmartin 
paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:

...
Yah, but if someone wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot
on his message, he'd prefer that you not need to open it
with an external viewer.
...

Ah.  Curmudgeon bait.  And bait I cannot resist!

Someone that wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot on his 
message should expect to have it go unseen.   (By it I mean
graphics, but I'm not far from meaning the whole email.)

Pat O'Keefe

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IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-15 Thread George Kozakos
We have been informed that the external IP address for
testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009.
Current external IP address: 207.25.253.31
New external IP address: 170.225.15.31

Hi Sam,
I just asked about it and as of today the change has been pushed out to May
17.

Regards,
George Kozakos
z/OS Software Service, Level 2 Supervisor

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Re: IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-15 Thread Brian Peterson
Any chance you could point us to the announcement?  Is this just affecting
Testcase (and why)?  What about all the other FTP servers currently located
on 207.25.253.x addresses - are they changing too?

Brian

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:49:04 +1000, George Kozakos wrote:

We have been informed that the external IP address for
testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009.
Current external IP address: 207.25.253.31
New external IP address: 170.225.15.31

Hi Sam,
I just asked about it and as of today the change has been pushed out to May
17.

Regards,
George Kozakos
z/OS Software Service, Level 2 Supervisor

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New Redpaper: Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM

2009-04-15 Thread Pamela Christina -- it's spring in Endicott
Cross-posted to IBMVM and IBM-MAIN for the z/OS and z/VM enthusiasts

A new IBM Redpaper is available:
  Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/redp4507.html

IBM authors:
 Alan Kline, John Kapernick, Romney White, and Reed Mullen

Abstract:
This IBM Redpaper describes some of the possible ways to configure a z/VM
system and a set of z/OS virtual machines for use in testing z/OS-based
tools and products. By supplying each tester with their own virtual
machine, one tester has little or no impact on others.

This material is based on 15 years of experience in operating a z/OS test
environment on z/VM for developing and testing z/OS middleware in IBM.
Our current environment includes three z/VM LPARs on two different
processors, hosting over 300 z/OS images and eight Linux images. While
we have a large DASD pool, we maintain a set of releases dating back to
OS/390 Release 10 for service needs, plus a large development
environment. As a result, we have implemented an environment where we
share as much DASD and as many datasets as possible, while providing
sufficient private space for individual development and test needs and a
reasonable amount of protection against shared DASD being
altered accidentally.
  -
Enjoy.

Regards,
Pam C
http://www.vm.ibm.com

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Re: CA7 Batch Runs but not Marked Complete

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick Falcone
What plex member did they convert on? Look at the plex member that was shutdown 
and then brought back up temporarily without cairim you dummy. Never mind...

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Patrick Falcone patrick.falco...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Patrick Falcone patrick.falco...@verizon.net
Subject: CA7 Batch Runs but not Marked Complete
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 7:15 PM

I'm looking at an issue where a couple of quick running batch jobs, 1minute
or less, started and finished but CA7 does not have any indication that they
completed successfully. I'm still looking at this problem but don't have
any leads at this point. Anyone familiar with type anomalous event? Operating
System is z/OS 1.7 and CA-7 is Version 11


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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 Apr 2009 12:32:05 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick
O'Keefe) wrote:

Ah.  Curmudgeon bait.  And bait I cannot resist!

Someone that wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot on his 
message should expect to have it go unseen.   (By it I mean
graphics, but I'm not far from meaning the whole email.)

There are lots of ways to have one's message unseen.   The primary one
for me is to quote so much that we have to page down to read one's
reply.

If a message starts off showing me that the poster was not interested
enough to proofread - I will accept his evaluation of the value of the
post without continuing.

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
There are lots of ways to have one's message unseen.   The primary one for me 
is to quote so much that we have to page down to read one's reply.

That one I agree with.
Especially, using a BlackBerry.
If I have to page down to see a response, I don't.
In general, unless it's short (like this one), my responses are at the 
beginning.

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Wolfgang Schäfer

Hello Howard,
your answers are below the quote (at least in this case) ... and yes, I had 
to scroll down to read your answer.


Cheers
Wolfgang
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From: Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu

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Subject: Re: Batch E-Mail



On 15 Apr 2009 12:32:05 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick
O'Keefe) wrote:


Ah.  Curmudgeon bait.  And bait I cannot resist!

Someone that wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot on his
message should expect to have it go unseen.   (By it I mean
graphics, but I'm not far from meaning the whole email.)


There are lots of ways to have one's message unseen.   The primary one
for me is to quote so much that we have to page down to read one's
reply.

If a message starts off showing me that the poster was not interested
enough to proofread - I will accept his evaluation of the value of the
post without continuing.



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IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-15 Thread George Kozakos
Any chance you could point us to the announcement?  Is this just affecting

Testcase (and why)?  What about all the other FTP servers currently
located
on 207.25.253.x addresses - are they changing too?

All the servers in the IBM Download Hosting Environment are being migrated
to
a new 10gbit-capable network segment.
The IP addresses are changing from 207.25.253.x to 170.225.15.y where in
almost all cases x=y. It looks like for all IP address you would use x=y.

I am looking for some official notification to point you to.

Regards,
George Kozakos
z/OS Software Service, Level 2 Supervisor

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Re: PDSE Load Module Format?

2009-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:53:11 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:

 AFAIK, all C compilers from ISVs require a prelinker step which, in turn,
 is highly hostile to processing performed by SMP/E.

Certainly it is, but I'm not sure why compilers need such a step. Can
you give an example?

A reentrant and refreshable program needs to obtain writeable
storage and may need to move an initializing prototype into
that storage.

C allows the initializing prototype to be defined in a
translation unit other than the one containing the main
entry point, and expects that initialization to have
been performed when the main entry point gets control.

A preprocessor is needed to move the initializing code
(GETMAIN; MVCL) from that other translation unit to the
one containing the main entry point.  I suspect (and Dave
Rivers seems to confirm) that there are undocumented
facilities in Binder to facilitate this; in effect a
built-in preprocessor.

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Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Steely
I am receiving the following messages after installation on the IVP job
steps:

IRX0250E System abend code 0C4, reason code 0017.  
IRX0253E Abend in external function SOCKET.
XMITIP:   XMITIP Application level: 09.03

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thank You

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Subject: Re: Batch E-Mail

Mark - it sounds like perhaps the mime headers may not be setup properly
to be received by IBM. When I was developing XMITIP I ran into several
issues with file attachments arriving as inline until I discovered
something (long lost in the cobwebs).

A suggestion - get a copy of xmitip (http://www.lbdsoftware.com) and use
it in 'debug' mode (use keyword debug) and it will generate a report of
all the appropriate smtp statements. You can then use that to compare to
what you are generating and update your code if you detect a mismatch.

hope this helps

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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 04/15/2009 
01:05:34 PM:

  We did that and found *one* instruction that was so slow, and 
 executed so often, it brought our product to its knees.
  
 
  Please name and shame the instruction
  
 
 LMD. We used it in an unstack routine, that had been updated to support 
 AMODE(64) execution, without understanding just how slow it was (and how 

 often we executed it). Code got into the field for early testing and 
 customers complained. A product called STROBE pointed to the 64-byte 
 block containing this instruction. We replaced it with other 
 instructions and the problem was resolved.

  That's why LMD has the following Programming Note:

3. The combination of a LOAD MULTIPLE instruction
and a LOAD MULTIPLE HIGH instruction
provides equal or better performance than a
LOAD MULTIPLE DISJOINT instruction for the
same register range. LOAD MULTIPLE DIS-
JOINT is for use when the second or fourth operand
must be addressed by means of one of the
registers loaded. 

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XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:37:44 -0500, Mark Steely 
mark.ste...@wnco.com wrote:

Mostly just changing the subject so this problem doesn't get buried
in our email rant thread.   This could be a serious problem.

I am receiving the following messages after installation on the IVP job
steps:

IRX0250E System abend code 0C4, reason code 0017.
IRX0253E Abend in external function SOCKET.
XMITIP:   XMITIP Application level: 09.03
...

There is an XMITIP user's forum - a Yahoo group.  You might see
if you can still sign up for it.

You are using UDSMTP rather than the z/OS SMTP daemon I
gather.  (I don't know why else XMITIP would do anything with 
a socket.)  Hopefully someone more familiar with this than I
will jump in, but there is a description of requirements listed
in member XMITSOCK in the XMITIP EXEC library.

Lionel may not be providing any more fixes to the product.
(Sort like the Energizer Bunny finally running down ... having his 
battery pulled.  I suspect he's even less happy about it than 
we are.)

 Pat O'Keefe

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Re: XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Steely
I am not using UDSMTP.  

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Subject: XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:37:44 -0500, Mark Steely mark.ste...@wnco.com
wrote:

Mostly just changing the subject so this problem doesn't get buried
in our email rant thread.   This could be a serious problem.

I am receiving the following messages after installation on the IVP job
steps:

IRX0250E System abend code 0C4, reason code 0017.
IRX0253E Abend in external function SOCKET.
XMITIP:   XMITIP Application level: 09.03
...

There is an XMITIP user's forum - a Yahoo group.  You might see if you
can still sign up for it.

You are using UDSMTP rather than the z/OS SMTP daemon I gather.  (I
don't know why else XMITIP would do anything with a socket.)  Hopefully
someone more familiar with this than I will jump in, but there is a
description of requirements listed in member XMITSOCK in the XMITIP EXEC
library.

Lionel may not be providing any more fixes to the product.
(Sort like the Energizer Bunny finally running down ... having his
battery pulled.  I suspect he's even less happy about it than we are.)

 Pat O'Keefe

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Re: XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:17:00 -0500, Mark Steely 
mark.ste...@wnco.com wrote:

I am not using UDSMTP.
 
I should have said UDSMTP or XMITSOCK.
If you aren't using either of them XMITIP shouldn't be using
sockets.   

What is your IVP trying to do?  

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Re: XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Steely
It just sending me a simple email through batch. I am receiving the
email but I get the socket error message.  

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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:17:00 -0500, Mark Steely mark.ste...@wnco.com
wrote:

I am not using UDSMTP.
 
I should have said UDSMTP or XMITSOCK.
If you aren't using either of them XMITIP shouldn't be using
sockets.   

What is your IVP trying to do?  

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread Edward Jaffe

Jim Mulder wrote:

  That's why LMD has the following Programming Note:

3. The combination of a LOAD MULTIPLE instruction
and a LOAD MULTIPLE HIGH instruction
provides equal or better performance than a
LOAD MULTIPLE DISJOINT instruction for the
same register range. LOAD MULTIPLE DIS-
JOINT is for use when the second or fourth operand
must be addressed by means of one of the
registers loaded.
  


Yeah. Once you restore the high-halves in 64-bit mode using LMH, you're 
potentially unable to issue the LM to restore the low halves--and vice 
versa. We had to do some slightly tricky stuff to do what we needed to 
do without LMD. It was well worth it.


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IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-15 Thread George Kozakos
Here are some details of the planned changes for IBM IP addresses:

Old IP address  New IP address  External Hostname (DNS)   Date
--  --  ---   -
207.25.253.31   170.225.15.31   testcase.boulder.ibm.com  May 17
207.25.253.40   170.225.15.40   ftp.software.libm.com May 10
207.25.253.41   170.225.15.41   www6.software.libm.comMay 10
207.25.253.42   170.225.15.42   www14.software.ibm.comMay 10
207.25.253.43   170.225.15.43   www7.software.ibm.com May 10
207.25.253.44   170.225.15.44   www7b.software.ibm.comMay 10
207.25.253.45   170.225.15.45   www.redbooks.ibm.com  May 10
207.25.253.47   170.225.15.47   ptf.software.ibm.com  May 10
207.25.253.8170.225.15.28   download2.boulder.ibm.com May 10
207.25.253.76   170.225.15.76   download3.boulder.ibm.com May 10
207.25.253.81   170.225.15.81   download.boulder.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.68   170.225.15.68   publib14.boulder.ibm.com  May 10
207.252.253.24  170.225.15.24   publib.boulder.ibm.comMay 17
207.252.253.24  alias   publibfp.boulder.ibm.com  May 17
207.252.253.24  alias   as400bks.rochester.ibm.comMay 17
207.252.253.24  alias   publibz.boulder.ibm.com   May 17
129.42.17.103   alias   www4.software.ibm.com May 17
207.25.253.10   170.225.15.10   www15.boulder.ibm.com Apr 26
207.25.253.10   alias   www15.software.ibm.comApr 26
207.25.253.25   170.225.15.25   publib-b.boulder.ibm.com  Aug 23
207.25.253.16   170.225.15.16   lotusweb.boulder.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.26   170.225.15.26   service.boulder.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   service.software.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   ftp.support.lotus.com May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   www2.support.lotus.comMay 3
207.25.253.26   alias   ftp.www.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   aix.boulder.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.26   aliasaix.software.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   ps.boulder.ibm.comMay 3
207.25.253.27   170.225.15.27   serviceb.boulder.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.27   alias   index.storsys.ibm.com May 3
207.25.253.27   alias   ftp.storsys.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.27   alias   ftp.hddtech.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.52   170.225.15.52   p390.boulder.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.61   170.225.15.61   service2.boulder.ibm.com  July 19
207.25.253.53   170.225.15.53   service5.boulder.ibm.com  July 19
207.25.253.56   170.225.15.56   www7.boulder.ibm.com  July 19
207.25.253.19   170.225.15.19   www7b.boulder.ibm.com July 19
207.25.253.19   alias   techsupport.services.ibm.com  July 19
207.25.253.9170.225.15.29   www14.boulder.ibm.com May 10

Regards,
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Re: IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Fine.
But, why with such short notice?

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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 
2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31


Here are some details of the planned changes for IBM IP addresses:

Old IP address  New IP address  External Hostname (DNS)   Date
--  --  ---   -
207.25.253.31   170.225.15.31   testcase.boulder.ibm.com  May 17
207.25.253.40   170.225.15.40   ftp.software.libm.com May 10
207.25.253.41   170.225.15.41   www6.software.libm.comMay 10
207.25.253.42   170.225.15.42   www14.software.ibm.comMay 10
207.25.253.43   170.225.15.43   www7.software.ibm.com May 10
207.25.253.44   170.225.15.44   www7b.software.ibm.comMay 10
207.25.253.45   170.225.15.45   www.redbooks.ibm.com  May 10
207.25.253.47   170.225.15.47   ptf.software.ibm.com  May 10
207.25.253.8170.225.15.28   download2.boulder.ibm.com May 10
207.25.253.76   170.225.15.76   download3.boulder.ibm.com May 10
207.25.253.81   170.225.15.81   download.boulder.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.68   170.225.15.68   publib14.boulder.ibm.com  May 10
207.252.253.24  170.225.15.24   publib.boulder.ibm.comMay 17
207.252.253.24  alias   publibfp.boulder.ibm.com  May 17
207.252.253.24  alias   as400bks.rochester.ibm.comMay 17
207.252.253.24  alias   publibz.boulder.ibm.com   May 17
129.42.17.103   alias   www4.software.ibm.com May 17
207.25.253.10   170.225.15.10   www15.boulder.ibm.com Apr 26
207.25.253.10   alias   www15.software.ibm.comApr 26
207.25.253.25   170.225.15.25   publib-b.boulder.ibm.com  Aug 23
207.25.253.16   170.225.15.16   lotusweb.boulder.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.26   170.225.15.26   service.boulder.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   service.software.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   ftp.support.lotus.com May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   www2.support.lotus.comMay 3
207.25.253.26   alias   ftp.www.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   aix.boulder.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.26   aliasaix.software.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.26   alias   ps.boulder.ibm.comMay 3
207.25.253.27   170.225.15.27   serviceb.boulder.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.27   alias   index.storsys.ibm.com May 3
207.25.253.27   alias   ftp.storsys.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.27   alias   ftp.hddtech.ibm.com   May 3
207.25.253.52   170.225.15.52   p390.boulder.ibm.com  May 3
207.25.253.61   170.225.15.61   service2.boulder.ibm.com  July 19
207.25.253.53   170.225.15.53   service5.boulder.ibm.com  July 19
207.25.253.56   170.225.15.56   www7.boulder.ibm.com  July 19
207.25.253.19   170.225.15.19   www7b.boulder.ibm.com July 19
207.25.253.19   alias   techsupport.services.ibm.com  July 19
207.25.253.9170.225.15.29   www14.boulder.ibm.com May 10

Regards,
George Kozakos
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Re: XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
I rarely (like twice now) do batch executions of XMITIP but I just tried
a batch execution of XMITIP 09.03 and got no errors.

Can you post a copy of the IVP (with enough stuff munged to satisfy 
your minders)?

Pat O'Keefe


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It just sending me a simple email through batch. I am receiving the
email but I get the socket error message.
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Re: IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:41:59 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

But, why with such short notice?

To encourage use of domain names rather than IP addresses.

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Re: mainframe software

2009-04-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
A little more information would be helpful. Are you interested in learning
how to write JCL, or something else? For CICS, are you interested in
installation? Operations? Programming? In what language(s)? (CICS
Transaction Server supports C, C++, COBOL, PL/I, Java, EGL, etc.)

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Re: Fw: INFOPAC

2009-04-15 Thread Kem King
We just resolved a similar issue with Infopac-JCL dumping with S0C4's while
testing on z/OS 1.10 lpar.  I too opened a pmr with IBM and ASG.  And after
MUCH research we found that the Infopac code was not clearing GETMAIN'd
storage before using it, which caused the dump.  

I also found APAR OA2791 which described it very clearly as an undocumented
change to the GETMAIN macro.  The APAR offers a new DIAGnn option to bypass
the new feature.  

I was able to get the Mobius developer at ASG to offer a zap which cleared
the storage and thus, resolved our problem.  It sounds like you may be
affected by the same issue.

Hope this helps,
Kem King 

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