pcom 5.7 IN Terminal server 2008/X64

2009-07-13 Thread Itschak Mugzach
We tried to connect a remote user using Terminal server 2003/X32 with PCOM
5.7 and it worked fine. We encountered some error messages while trying the
same under Terminal Server 2008/X64:


The PDLC Mapper service depends on the PDLC X.25 service which failed to
start because of the following error:





The AppnApi service depends on the PDLC Mapper service which failed to start
because of the following error:

%%1068



The Twinax Adapter Common service depends on the IBM Trace Facility service
which failed to start because of the following error:

%%1068





The IBM Enterprise Extender (HPR/IP) service depends on the PDLC OEM
Interface service which failed to start because of the following error:

%%1068





The KLOGNT service failed to start due to the following error:

%%1275



Any idea how to enable PCOM under terminal Server 2008/X64?



Regards,



ITschak

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Re: Urgent

2009-07-13 Thread Itschak Mugzach
When ISPF fails to initialize just create a new dataset by entering the
following in the TMP READY PROMPT:

Alloc f(ISPPROF) da('your dsname') new catalog like(sys1.parmlib) /8 or any
other model dataset you can access with DCB/80/3120/fb

Itschak




On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Joel C Ewing  wrote:

> Having been there, these kinds of problems are more likely to hit you on a
> DR test, when you deliberately take only a subset of vaulted data to DR and
> don't have full access to ML2 data; especially when someone tries to fire up
> a personal TSO session that doesn't normally run during a DR test.  The ISPF
> profile mostly contains just personal customization and old dialog panel
> field values, which can always be re-created if need be after scratching the
> unreachable ML2 ds.  While not having your normal ISPF profile available is
> an annoyance, it's not a show stopper, even in a real DR - just delete and
> allow creation of a new profile.
>
> Obviously, any datasets that are essential to your z/OS recovery process,
> including essential TSO user datasets that will be needed before DFHSM is
> fully functional, need to have MGMTCLAS or other mechanisms to insure they
> are ineligible for migration (to ML1 or ML2). For DR testing, that
> restriction extends even to datasets needed after DFHSM is functional,
> unless the required media for recall will be taken for the test.
>  JC Ewing
>
> Gibney, Dave wrote:
>
>>   Urgent is non-descriptive.
>>
>>  John's answer is how to continue, not how to access the dataset. You
>> can't access the existing dataset, you don't have it available at you DR
>> test. (I hope it's a test :)
>>
>> Dave Gibney
>> Information Technology Services
>> Washington State University
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
>>> Behalf Of John McKown
>>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:17 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>>> Subject: Re: Urgent
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Jacky Bright wrote:
>>>
>>> My DBA has forgot to recall the SYSADM ISPF profile dataset from the

>>> VTS.
>>>
 Now at DR site entry is there in ML2 which we can not access.
 Looking for a way how to access this dataset. Any ideas.
 JAcky

 Do a DELETE ... NOSCRATCH
>>>
>>> However, for this to work with DFHSM down, you must connect the userid
>>> who
>>> is doing it to a special group - ARCCATGP
>>>
>>> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
>>> bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2s671/4.8.12
>>>
>>> If necessary, you might need to create this group in RACF.
>>>
>>> As an alternative, you __might__ be able to use IDCAMS and do a
>>>
>>> REPRO MERGECAT -
>>>  ENT(SYSADM.ispf.profile) -
>>>  INDATASET(realucat) -
>>>  OUTDATASET(someothercat)
>>>
>>> Of course, the absolute simpliest way is to delete the SYSADM alias
>>>
>> and
>>
>>>  point it to another catalog. Of course, that implicitly uncatalogs all
>>> of
>>> SYSADM's datasets.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> John McKown
>>>
>>
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Re: AMBLIST Funny

2009-07-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg

At 15:58 -0400 on 07/13/2009, Bill Fairchild wrote about Re: AMBLIST Funny:

In the early 1970s I had a taste of the humor of the HASP 
development team when I saw their description of a problem in 
RETAIN.  HASP, which ran on OS/360 in key 0 and could overlay any 
byte in central storage, had been guilty of "spraying bits at 
random".  And in 1969 I saw Tom Simpson, the chief HASP developer, 
in action at two consecutive sessions at SHARE in Boston as he 
described HASP internals.  He liberally peppered the dry material 
with ROTF humor.


I have the impression (remembrance?) of some great comments in the 
source code that had nothing to do with explaining what the 
statements did but instead were some off-hand quips like after going 
through a complex routine inside a loop when you got to the end of 
the routine and decided if you were going to loop back and run 
through the routine again you found the branch to the start of the 
loop marked something on the order of "That was so much fun, I'm 
going to do it again" or the complex routine itself being marked "Ta 
Dumb - Drum Roll Please" (I'm giving the type of comments and not 
claiming that they are actual comments that occurred).


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Re: Urgent

2009-07-13 Thread Joel C Ewing
Having been there, these kinds of problems are more likely to hit you on 
a DR test, when you deliberately take only a subset of vaulted data to 
DR and don't have full access to ML2 data; especially when someone tries 
to fire up a personal TSO session that doesn't normally run during a DR 
test.  The ISPF profile mostly contains just personal customization and 
old dialog panel field values, which can always be re-created if need be 
after scratching the unreachable ML2 ds.  While not having your normal 
ISPF profile available is an annoyance, it's not a show stopper, even in 
a real DR - just delete and allow creation of a new profile.


Obviously, any datasets that are essential to your z/OS recovery 
process, including essential TSO user datasets that will be needed 
before DFHSM is fully functional, need to have MGMTCLAS or other 
mechanisms to insure they are ineligible for migration (to ML1 or ML2). 
For DR testing, that restriction extends even to datasets needed after 
DFHSM is functional, unless the required media for recall will be taken 
for the test.

  JC Ewing

Gibney, Dave wrote:

  Urgent is non-descriptive.

  John's answer is how to continue, not how to access the dataset. You
can't access the existing dataset, you don't have it available at you DR
test. (I hope it's a test :)

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of John McKown
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Urgent

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Jacky Bright wrote:


My DBA has forgot to recall the SYSADM ISPF profile dataset from the

VTS.

Now at DR site entry is there in ML2 which we can not access.
Looking for a way how to access this dataset. Any ideas.
JAcky


Do a DELETE ... NOSCRATCH

However, for this to work with DFHSM down, you must connect the userid
who
is doing it to a special group - ARCCATGP

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2s671/4.8.12

If necessary, you might need to create this group in RACF.

As an alternative, you __might__ be able to use IDCAMS and do a

REPRO MERGECAT -
  ENT(SYSADM.ispf.profile) -
  INDATASET(realucat) -
  OUTDATASET(someothercat)

Of course, the absolute simpliest way is to delete the SYSADM alias

and

point it to another catalog. Of course, that implicitly uncatalogs all
of
SYSADM's datasets.

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Re: Urgent

2009-07-13 Thread Gibney, Dave
  Urgent is non-descriptive.

  John's answer is how to continue, not how to access the dataset. You
can't access the existing dataset, you don't have it available at you DR
test. (I hope it's a test :)

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of John McKown
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:17 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Urgent
> 
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Jacky Bright wrote:
> 
> > My DBA has forgot to recall the SYSADM ISPF profile dataset from the
> VTS.
> > Now at DR site entry is there in ML2 which we can not access.
> >
> > Looking for a way how to access this dataset. Any ideas.
> >
> > JAcky
> >
> 
> Do a DELETE ... NOSCRATCH
> 
> However, for this to work with DFHSM down, you must connect the userid
> who
> is doing it to a special group - ARCCATGP
> 
> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
> bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2s671/4.8.12
> 
> If necessary, you might need to create this group in RACF.
> 
> As an alternative, you __might__ be able to use IDCAMS and do a
> 
> REPRO MERGECAT -
>   ENT(SYSADM.ispf.profile) -
>   INDATASET(realucat) -
>   OUTDATASET(someothercat)
> 
> Of course, the absolute simpliest way is to delete the SYSADM alias
and
> point it to another catalog. Of course, that implicitly uncatalogs all
> of
> SYSADM's datasets.
> 
> --
> Trying to write with a pencil that is dull is pointless.
> 
> Maranatha!
> John McKown
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Re: Delete Tape Datasets

2009-07-13 Thread Russell Witt
Ron,

But that is where your Tape Management System can come into play. All the
Tape Management Systems have some type of "rules" (CA-1 calls it the RDS; CA
TLMS calls it the RMF; and DFSMSrmm calls it Vital Records) that allow you
to specify a retention rule or expiration date for tape files based on the
DSN (and/or jobname combination). Simply create a rule in your Tape
Management System to scratch these tapes after 1-day; problem solved.

Russell Witt
CA 1 L2 Support Manager

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Subject: Re: Delete Tape Datasets

Yes, but according to our DB2 DBA... we use dual logging, one set to tape,
one set to DASD. He wants to keep the ones going to DASD for 4 days, but
delete the tape ones after one day. There's a zparm... DSN6ARVP ARCRETN set
to 4, which sets the retention to 4 days, but (excuse me for being a DB2
novice...) did not see anything in the DB2 manuals about setting retention
for tape to 1 day andkeeping the DASD retention period to 4 days

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Re: Urgent

2009-07-13 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Jacky Bright wrote:

> My DBA has forgot to recall the SYSADM ISPF profile dataset from the VTS.
> Now at DR site entry is there in ML2 which we can not access.
> 
> Looking for a way how to access this dataset. Any ideas.
> 
> JAcky
> 

Do a DELETE ... NOSCRATCH

However, for this to work with DFHSM down, you must connect the userid who 
is doing it to a special group - ARCCATGP

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2s671/4.8.12

If necessary, you might need to create this group in RACF.

As an alternative, you __might__ be able to use IDCAMS and do a 

REPRO MERGECAT -
  ENT(SYSADM.ispf.profile) - 
  INDATASET(realucat) -
  OUTDATASET(someothercat) 

Of course, the absolute simpliest way is to delete the SYSADM alias and 
point it to another catalog. Of course, that implicitly uncatalogs all of 
SYSADM's datasets.

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Urgent

2009-07-13 Thread Jacky Bright
My DBA has forgot to recall the SYSADM ISPF profile dataset from the VTS.
Now at DR site entry is there in ML2 which we can not access.

Looking for a way how to access this dataset. Any ideas.

JAcky

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Re: JQuestion on Java

2009-07-13 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Ron Wells wrote:

> JRIO is for use under USS only ??
> 

It can be used in any Java environment under z/OS. I.e. it won't work on
Linux, AIX, Windows, Solaris, etc.

I don't know if that is what you are getting at or not.


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Re: JQuestion on Java

2009-07-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
The Java JVM requires USS in that the address space must be "dubbed"
for Unix - but this could be in a batch address space, a STC, CICS,
IMS, .

What you probably want to know is whether jrio.jar and its native
library (both part of the SDK) can be used only if the Java VM is
started with the "java" Unix shell command. the answer to this is
no -  JRIO can be used in any z/OS SDK JVM.

BTW: The same answers applies to the JZOS Toolkit apis (ibmjzos.jar),
which are also part of the SDK and provide similar function to JRIO.

HTH,

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Ron Wells wrote:
> JRIO is for use under USS only ??
>

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Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-13 Thread Andy Wood
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:03:19 -0500, Paul Gilmartin  
wrote:

. . .

>(From ancient experience and fading memory):
>
>Even before SMS existed, DS1LSTAR was set to beginning-of-file
>(Allocation wouldn't just leave the field uninitialized, would it?)
>QSAM correctly reported EOF on the first read.  BPAM did not and
>programs that didn't electively check DS1LSTAR read residual
>data.

My ancient experience and fading recollection of this is that none of the 
access methods seemed to look at DS1LSTAR - except to handle DISP=MOD. 
Certainly, not all programs reacted in the same way, but I put that down to 
some programs doing their own checking of DS1LSTAR. 

One program that certainly did "honor" DS1LSTAR, whether due to choice of 
access method, or by checking it itself, was ISPF Browse. That was the cause 
of much confusion (who you gonna call when you suspect a data set contains 
spurious data?)

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JQuestion on Java

2009-07-13 Thread Ron Wells
JRIO is for use under USS only ??

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Dataset validation products

2009-07-13 Thread Michael Sullivan
Is any one out there aware of a product(s) for the mainframe that would
accomplish a generic file validation given a set of rules on a dataset.

For example – has a header, has a trailer, record counts, content
validation(field should have only these values), record type sequencing, etc.

Thanks
Michael

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Re: Odd Behavior in PL/I Assignment Statement

2009-07-13 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
X'01' is write without spacing for RECFM=FM.

What is SYSPRINT declared as?

Been a long time since I used STEAM I/O :)


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Adam Johanson wrote:
>> If the fields are 36 characters, why are 37 being displayed?
>
>   Must just be how PL/I does it with the PUT SKIP LIST. I just ran a hello
> world program with no spaces at the end, but it printed out an additional one.
>
>
>   A previous poster asked me put post all relevant delcarations, assignment
> stmts. with those variables, etc. This is a pretty good sized program and it
> would probably just be easier for someone to see the listing.
>
>   I'm not sure if me sending the listing out to people would violate
> our "information privacy" mumbo-jumbo with some of our code, so I ought to
> err on the side of caution. I'll open up an ETR with IBM and let them have a
> look.
>
>   Thanks for the attention and replies.
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Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-13 Thread Michael Knigge

Guy Gardoit schrieb:

Hmmm.  Makes me wonder if in Unix there is an "recycle bin" equivalent for
the "rm" command.


no. KDE, GNOME, XFCE and so on have a recycle bin implemented, wich only
works if files are "deleted" with the filemanager of the desktop
environment (--> KDE, GNOME, etc).


But there is a rather cool library called "libtrash" which can be used.

This library hooks the remove() and unlink() functions of the libc. So
whenever an application deletes a file, the libtrash will get informed
about this and move the file to a recycle bin directory.


Works at least for Linux, no idea if it works for AIX, SunOS, HP-UX or
whatever



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Re: Neon revs cost-cutting mainframeware

2009-07-13 Thread Clark Morris
On 13 Jul 2009 12:06:02 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>Guy Gardoit wrote:
>> IBM is probably working on an aquisition plan - everyone has their price -
>> IBM just needs to complete the math.
>>   
>
>It's entirely possible that some non-IBM entities have known for years 
>how to redirect arbitrary third-party code to zAAP/zIIP. (Hacking the 
>"secret" is not Rocket Science.  ;-) ) But, nobody wanted to drop a 
>"bomb" on the industry--until now.
>
>If IBM allows NEON to proceed uncontested, or rumors begin to circle 
>about a NEON or zPrime purchase by IBM, we could see numerous copies of 
>the enabling code, from various sources, appear in the public domain. 
>This thing could spiral out of control into a free-for-all of 
>nihilistic, mutually-destructive "zAAPicide"! Wow! 8-)

My attitude towards Ziip and Zaap is that a kludge of the first
magnitude was invented so that old work could be penalized while new
work which required more effort on the part of IBM could get a break.
IBM is already in the position that their current charging scheme may
well be accelerating a trend toward newer applications because the
cost of change can be justified against the high cost of not changing.
>From postings by others on this forum far more qualified than I am to
judge, this marketing inspired kludge may well have made z/OS less
secure.
>
>Of course, at that point, everyone's software licensing terms and 
>conditions will change. zAAP and zIIP execution will no longer be free.

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Re: AMBLIST Funny

2009-07-13 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message-


  I had something to do with that.  My concern is that system 
programs are usually reading that book at a time when they are 
dealing with the gravity of some problem, and may not be in a mood
to appreciate its opposite, levity. 


And we all know how humorless those "systems programs" are and how
exacting to syntax they are;-)

Now, Systems Programmers, on the other hand

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Re: AMBLIST Funny

2009-07-13 Thread Bill Fairchild
In the early 1970s I had a taste of the humor of the HASP development team when 
I saw their description of a problem in RETAIN.  HASP, which ran on OS/360 in 
key 0 and could overlay any byte in central storage, had been guilty of 
"spraying bits at random".  And in 1969 I saw Tom Simpson, the chief HASP 
developer, in action at two consecutive sessions at SHARE in Boston as he 
described HASP internals.  He liberally peppered the dry material with ROTF 
humor.

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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: AMBLIST Funny

Subject: Re: Healther checker documentation 
From: Jim Mulder  
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:42:22 -0400 
Content-Type: text/plain 

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
05/16/2008 
12:46:13 AM:
> I was going to say "obviously you haven't read the Diagnosis: Tools 
> and Procedure book. It contains quite funny sentences at the start 
> of each chapter". Unfortunately, when I just looked, they're all 
> gone It is still in te old os/390 R10 books.
> 
> Those were sentences like for standalone dump "Like a trip to the 
> dentist. . .  you only go when you have to, and you know it's gonna 
hurt".
> Or: "SVC dump is like a burglar alarm. . . .  It lets you know 
> something's wrong and helps you pinpoint where it started."
> "Component trace is like a Swiss Army Knife: a lot of little tools 
> built into one."

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Re: AMBLIST Funny

2009-07-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I had something to do with that.  My concern is that system programs are 
>usually reading that book at a time when they are dealing with the gravity of 
>some problem, and may not be in a mood to appreciate its opposite, levity. 

Too bad!
I see your point, but sometimes levity is the only way to deal with a crisis.
Witness all the MJ jokes since June 25.
-
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Re: AMBLIST Funny

2009-07-13 Thread Bob Shannon
>  I had something to do with that.

Grinch  ;-)

Bob Shannon

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Re: AMBLIST Funny

2009-07-13 Thread Adam Johanson
Subject: Re: Healther checker documentation 
From: Jim Mulder  
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:42:22 -0400 
Content-Type: text/plain 

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
05/16/2008 
12:46:13 AM:
> I was going to say "obviously you haven't read the Diagnosis: Tools 
> and Procedure book. It contains quite funny sentences at the start 
> of each chapter". Unfortunately, when I just looked, they're all 
> gone It is still in the old os/390 R10 books.
> 
> Those were sentences like for standalone dump "Like a trip to the 
> dentist. . .  you only go when you have to, and you know it's gonna 
hurt".
> Or: "SVC dump is like a burglar alarm. . . .  It lets you know 
> something's wrong and helps you pinpoint where it started."
> "Component trace is like a Swiss Army Knife: a lot of little tools 
> built into one."
> 
> Now who took that humour back out?!?

  I had something to do with that.  My concern is that system 
programs are usually reading that book at a time when they are 
dealing with the gravity of some problem, and may not be in a mood
to appreciate its opposite, levity. 

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Re: Neon revs cost-cutting mainframeware

2009-07-13 Thread Edward Jaffe

Guy Gardoit wrote:

IBM is probably working on an aquisition plan - everyone has their price -
IBM just needs to complete the math.
  


It's entirely possible that some non-IBM entities have known for years 
how to redirect arbitrary third-party code to zAAP/zIIP. (Hacking the 
"secret" is not Rocket Science.  ;-) ) But, nobody wanted to drop a 
"bomb" on the industry--until now.


If IBM allows NEON to proceed uncontested, or rumors begin to circle 
about a NEON or zPrime purchase by IBM, we could see numerous copies of 
the enabling code, from various sources, appear in the public domain. 
This thing could spiral out of control into a free-for-all of 
nihilistic, mutually-destructive "zAAPicide"! Wow! 8-)


Of course, at that point, everyone's software licensing terms and 
conditions will change. zAAP and zIIP execution will no longer be free.


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Re: ftp message that I don't really understand.

2009-07-13 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/13/2009 12:14:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
yak36...@yahoo.com writes:

rather is just probing to see if the ftp server is listening, and  quickly 
disconnecting before the server does the  getpeername.


>>
There's lots of DoS attacks going around  too. I'd run it by the network 
group to see if there's a pattern.  




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Re: Neon revs cost-cutting mainframeware

2009-07-13 Thread Guy Gardoit
IBM is probably working on an aquisition plan - everyone has their price -
IBM just needs to complete the math.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Ed Gould  wrote:

> Original URL:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/08/neon_zprime_mainframe/Neon revs
> cost-cutting mainframewarezPrime risks Big Blue ireBy Timothy Prickett
> MorganPosted in Servers, 8th July 2009 22:25 GMTUnderstand how application
> security is evolvingA small mainframe software tool developer called Neon
> Enterprise Software has opened


...snip

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Re: AMBLIST Funny

2009-07-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think you will find it in the MVS Diagnostic Tools and Services Aids 
GA22-7589-12


Lizette

>
>When did this get removed from the Service Aids manual?  QuickRef still has
>it documented.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/n8rxl2
>
>

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AMBLIST Funny

2009-07-13 Thread John P Kalinich
When did this get removed from the Service Aids manual?  QuickRef still has
it documented.

http://tinyurl.com/n8rxl2

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Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:49:15 -0700, Guy Gardoit wrote:

>Hmmm.  Makes me wonder if in Unix there is an "recycle bin" equivalent for
>the "rm" command.
>
mv -i some-file ~/.Trash/.  # (OS X)

o You _could_ alias "rm" to that.

o I _hate_ when admins do that in .profile.comon

o Be careful when:

  - A similarly named file is already in .Trash

  - some-file and .Trash are in different filesystems.

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Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Guy Gardoit
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> 
> Hmmm.  Makes me wonder if in Unix there is an "recycle bin" 
> equivalent for
> the "rm" command.
> 

No. However, Gnome, KDE, and perhaps other such "Desktop environments" do, if 
you use the proper "file manager". Even Windows does not put things in the 
Recycle Bin, if you do a "del FILENANAME" from the CMD prompt.

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Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-13 Thread Guy Gardoit
Hmmm.  Makes me wonder if in Unix there is an "recycle bin" equivalent for
the "rm" command.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Edward Jaffe
wrote:

>
>
>
> I like (and use) the UNDO editor command from time to time. I like (and
> use) the Trash folder in Windows from time to time. I like (and use) the
> Trash folder in Mozilla Thunderbird from time to time.
>
> Why would I NOT want to embrace similar functionality for z/OS data sets?
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Re: Delete all members of a PDS with JCL

2009-07-13 Thread Michel Castelein
You can use the ISPF LMMDEL service with parameter MEMBER(*).
ISPF can be invoked from within a batch job.

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Re: ftp message that I don't really understand.

2009-07-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:14 PM
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> 
> Just a guess, but maybe the client is not trying to start an 
> ftp session, but 
> rather is just probing to see if the ftp server is listening, 
> and quickly 
> disconnecting before the server does the getpeername.
> 
> Bill

Hum, guess I'll need to see if that address is our "port scanner" which we use 
to see if things are "alive".

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Re: ftp message that I don't really understand.

2009-07-13 Thread Bill Godfrey
Just a guess, but maybe the client is not trying to start an ftp session, but 
rather is just probing to see if the ftp server is listening, and quickly 
disconnecting before the server does the getpeername.

Bill

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:43:43 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

>I've been seeing a LOT of messages like the following. I don't understand 
what is going on.
>
>
>Jul 13 09:23:48 LIH1/BPXROOT FTPD9 ftpd[1142]: EZYFS50I ID=FTPD140453 
CONN starts Client IPaddr=10.170.52.4 hostname=UNKNOWN
>
>Jul 13 09:23:49 LIH1/BPXROOT FTPD9 ftps[1142]: EZYFS51I ID=FTPD140453 
CONN fails Reason=3 Text=getpeername failed
>
>The IP address is always the same. There a many successful FTPs going on 
at the same time.
>
>

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Re: INFOZIP >2Gb

2009-07-13 Thread Bob Woodside
On Monday 13 July 2009, Vikesh Bhoola wrote:
> Bob,
> I've made all the changes and the compiles goes through with no
> issues using gmake.
> The compile loops for some reason using "make -f mvs.mki" (but than
> its documented to use "gmake") ;)

Yes, I think the part of Lutz' patch that I left out was intended to 
make it work with the IBM make.

> Ran some tests on files > 2GB and it worked wonderfully. Even got
> good performance for the zip - for me, equal to that previously run
> under USS which is most acceptable.

Super! The USS and the MVS versions should be running about the same 
speed now, and both should be a little faster than the USS version was 
previously. I've set the optimization level to the max for both 
versions now.

> Now need to run the data through a program to verify the data is
> readable as cannot open such a huge files in Wordpad/Notepad.
>
> Once this is confirmed there will be no need for handling of filename
> through stdin issue on the uss version either as the mvs version
> works great!

> I will do the same for unzip tomorrow and let you know.

I'm looking forward to hearing your results.


Cheers,
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Re: Delete Tape Datasets

2009-07-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
Could you use the ACS routines to set the TAPE to a different retention period 
and leave the dasd part alone?

I am sure you can use 
IF ((&DSN = db2_log_dsn ) & (&UNIT=TAPE) ) then MGMTCLAS=   to do something 
like that.  Do you have a storage admin person you can ask?

Lizette


>
>>>For some reason, the tape(s) on which these datasets reside have an
>>>expiration date of 4 days. The owner of these datasets does not want to 
>>>change that, but he does want the day old datasets deleted.
>>>
>
>>Why should you have to go and manually (or automatically) delete tapes
>after >one day, just because the owner doesn't want to change the expiry date?
>>It's your shop, but that is the purpose of an expiry date, especially with
>a tape >management system.
>
>>Once you do something like that, you'll open the doors to even more complex
>>solutions for simple problems.
>>-
>>Too busy driving to stop for gas
>
>
>Yes, but according to our DB2 DBA... we use dual logging, one set to tape,
>one set to DASD. He wants to keep the ones going to DASD for 4 days, but
>delete the tape ones after one day. There's a zparm... DSN6ARVP ARCRETN set
>to 4, which sets the retention to 4 days, but (excuse me for being a DB2
>novice...) did not see anything in the DB2 manuals about setting retention
>for tape to 1 day andkeeping the DASD retention period to 4 days
>

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Re: INFOZIP >2Gb

2009-07-13 Thread Vikesh Bhoola
Bob,
I've made all the changes and the compiles goes through with no issues
using gmake.
The compile loops for some reason using "make -f mvs.mki" (but than its
documented to use "gmake") ;)

Ran some tests on files > 2GB and it worked wonderfully. Even got good
performance for the zip - for me, equal to that previously run under USS
which is most acceptable.

Now need to run the data through a program to verify the data is
readable as cannot open such a huge files in Wordpad/Notepad.

Once this is confirmed there will be no need for handling of filename
through stdin issue on the uss version either as the mvs version works
great! 

I will do the same for unzip tomorrow and let you know.

Bob, thank you very much for this. Words cannot express our
appreciation.

Will keep you informed,

Vikesh
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Re: Delete Tape Datasets

2009-07-13 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
Dual logging is a belt and suspenders operation. If the suspenders are
not needed more than the first day, it would be a question for IBM DB2
on how to make it happen without outside intervention.

Are there so many tapes tied up that 4 days is a problem?

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> Behalf Of Ron
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> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Delete Tape Datasets
> 
> >>For some reason, the tape(s) on which these datasets reside have an
> >>expiration date of 4 days. The owner of these datasets does not want
> to
> >>change that, but he does want the day old datasets deleted.
> >>
> 
> >Why should you have to go and manually (or automatically) delete
tapes
> after >one day, just because the owner doesn't want to change the
> expiry date?
> >It's your shop, but that is the purpose of an expiry date, especially
> with
> a tape >management system.
> 
> >Once you do something like that, you'll open the doors to even more
> complex
> >solutions for simple problems.
> >-
> >Too busy driving to stop for gas
> 
> 
> Yes, but according to our DB2 DBA... we use dual logging, one set to
> tape,
> one set to DASD. He wants to keep the ones going to DASD for 4 days,
> but
> delete the tape ones after one day. There's a zparm... DSN6ARVP
ARCRETN
> set
> to 4, which sets the retention to 4 days, but (excuse me for being a
> DB2
> novice...) did not see anything in the DB2 manuals about setting
> retention
> for tape to 1 day andkeeping the DASD retention period to 4 days
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Re: Delete Tape Datasets

2009-07-13 Thread Ron
>>For some reason, the tape(s) on which these datasets reside have an
>>expiration date of 4 days. The owner of these datasets does not want to 
>>change that, but he does want the day old datasets deleted.
>>

>Why should you have to go and manually (or automatically) delete tapes
after >one day, just because the owner doesn't want to change the expiry date?
>It's your shop, but that is the purpose of an expiry date, especially with
a tape >management system.

>Once you do something like that, you'll open the doors to even more complex
>solutions for simple problems.
>-
>Too busy driving to stop for gas


Yes, but according to our DB2 DBA... we use dual logging, one set to tape,
one set to DASD. He wants to keep the ones going to DASD for 4 days, but
delete the tape ones after one day. There's a zparm... DSN6ARVP ARCRETN set
to 4, which sets the retention to 4 days, but (excuse me for being a DB2
novice...) did not see anything in the DB2 manuals about setting retention
for tape to 1 day andkeeping the DASD retention period to 4 days

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Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:30:48 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote:
>> >
>> > From the z/OS V1.11 Preview,
>> >
>> >"In z/OS V1.11, DFSMSdfp processing is planned to be changed to indicate
>> >end-of-file (EOF) during the allocation of data sets on DASD that are not
>> >SMS-managed and have either sequential or an undefined data set
>organization."
>> >
>> "Indicate" is an interesting word.  It doesn't say it physically
>> writes an end-of-file.  Is this a logical rather than  physical
>> end-of-file.
>>
>> Is this for data security or convenience?  Can the residual
>> data still be read with EXCP?
>
>I think 'indicate' is the same method as for SMS datasets. AFAIK
>DS1LSTAR is set to zeros and the Acces Methods 'know' then that this is
>an empty dataset. These datasets can occupy 0 tracks, which is pysically
>impossible if a EOF was written in the dataset.
>
(From ancient experience and fading memory):

Even before SMS existed, DS1LSTAR was set to beginning-of-file
(Allocation wouldn't just leave the field uninitialized, would it?)
QSAM correctly reported EOF on the first read.  BPAM did not and
programs that didn't electively check DS1LSTAR read residual
data.  For a while, my circumvention was to allocate temporary
data sets with a primary extent of 0.  (This had undesirable
consequences with VIO.)

>Secondly, the EXCP question is similar to the 7 sysprogs and the
>ligthbulb (and please don't reply if there were 5 or 8): if you need to
>securely delete your data, delete it with the EREASE feature. Any other
>'delete' will leave the data on the track and is therefor unsecure. I
>can think of a dozen ways to read it.
>
Even ERASE might be ineffective with virtual disks; the overwriting
pattern might be written to different tracks.  Even the CMS MDFS
works that way.

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Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-13 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
> 
> Chris Craddock wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >
> > Folks hate to hear me say it, but just about everything we "know"
about IT
> > today is wrong. We're never going back to the home grown development
cottage
> > industry and sooner or later the in-house IT function is going to go
the way
> > of the dodo too. Our kids and grandkids are almost certainly NOT
going to be
> > doing IT as we know it. Pretty scary thought for some, but going to
happen
> > nevertheless.
> 
> Well, there ya' go, pointing out the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
> Well observed and well said.
> 
> 
> So, some inferences...
> 
> * At some point in time, companies will only have workstations
>(probably thin client machines that use software on some
>server somewhere else); no servers; no mainframes

Just a "cloud" that "computes".

So, what's in the "cloud"?

"Who cares?" as long as it works correctly and is available when "I"
want it.

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Re: VLF CLASS NAME(IKJEXEC)

2009-07-13 Thread Jochen Roehrig
I ran some additional tests:
F CATALOG,REPORT,CACHE shows that VLF caches date even with LLA down.

LLA with NOFREEZE always returns the actual member.

I'll do some further tests with LLA down and VLFDATA RETRIEVE.

Jochen

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Re: How to analyze/monitor VLF

2009-07-13 Thread Jochen Roehrig
Thnx, helped a lot.

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ftp message that I don't really understand.

2009-07-13 Thread McKown, John
I've been seeing a LOT of messages like the following. I don't understand what 
is going on.


Jul 13 09:23:48 LIH1/BPXROOT FTPD9 ftpd[1142]: EZYFS50I ID=FTPD140453 CONN 
starts Client IPaddr=10.170.52.4 hostname=UNKNOWN

Jul 13 09:23:49 LIH1/BPXROOT FTPD9 ftps[1142]: EZYFS51I ID=FTPD140453 CONN 
fails Reason=3 Text=getpeername failed

The IP address is always the same. There a many successful FTPs going on at the 
same time.


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Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2009 11:39:56 -0700, bshan...@rocketsoftware.com (Bob
Shannon) wrote:

>Well, what I know is that when companies built their own applications, they 
>talked about 
>gaining a competitive advantage. When's the last time anyone heard that? 
>When companies built their own applications, they could last twenty years or 
>more. 
>What's the life expectancy today? When companies built their own applications, 
>the applications did exactly what was required by the business instead of 
>requiring 
>the business to change to accommodate the software. Does one size really fit 
>all?

There always have been compromises between what users think they want
and what we could deliver.   Then when we built systems to last 20
years or more - business needs changed and we tried, with limited
success, to change as well.

>Will we ever go back? Perhaps not, but outsourcing application development or 
>buying off the shelf software may be more fad than panacea.

More likely it will be like buying anything else.   There will be a
fair amount of choice in buying a software package - as there is in
buying a car or a delivery service or a printer.   But the market for
building a software package, a car, a delivery service, or a printer
to meet our business needs is limited, considering the costs and
benefits.

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Re: Anynet

2009-07-13 Thread Ward, Mike S
Chris, sorry to be so ambiguous. What I'm trying to do is get rid of
some old IBM equipment at remote locations. It is being replaced by
Windows Communications Server and LANDP. The reason I ask about SNA
Gateway, etc.. is that in configuring the Windows Comm Server the Wizard
has a dropdown window that has various configurations that you can
choose from. I.E.

SNA GATEWAY
APPN Network Node
DLUR/DLUS Support for Local LU's
DLUR/DLUS Support for Downstream LU's
AnyNet SNA over TCP/IP Gateway
AnyNet Sockets over SNA
SNA API Clients Running APPC Applications
SNA API Clients Running 3270 or other LUA Applications
3270/LUA Applications
Focal Point
AS/400 Shared Folders

Some of these I have heard about, others I didn't even know they
existed. Either way once windows comm server is set up and talking to
the mainframe the  desktops at the remote location will talk to the Comm
server and send info back and forth to mainframe via the comm Server. In
order to minimize the impact of installation, I have been designated to
set up communications to this windows server and make it communicate
with the mainframe CICS system. The LU names currently in use must not
change. In other words. If you had a 3174 remote with LU A,B,C you would
need to set up Windows Comm Server in some fashion that would allow it
to have LU A,B,C connect to CICS just like the 3174 remote did. I am
confused because I have never had to set up SNA communications with a
software server. It's always been SNA to another VTAM using a 3745, 3705
and NCP, or to a remote 32xx device. I think the HPR APPN node is the
way to go since it offers the most current mode of communications, but I
may be all wet. That's why I'm asking so many questions.

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Subject: Re: Anynet

Mike

I was composing this response before your posts appeared on the IBMTCP-L

list.

> ... is anynet incorporated into z/os vtam like enterprise extender is?


Two of the AnyNet components, "SNA over IP"[1] and "Sockets over SNA", 
*used* to be "incorporated" into VTAM (the Communications Server SNA 
component) prior to V1R8 - and unchanged since V1R2 - in the sense that
you 
did not have to obtain a separate product in order to acquire the
function.[2]

Note that simply saying AnyNet is ambiguous. The fact that you are also 
interested in Enterprise Extender indicates that it is AnyNet SNA over
IP in 
which you are interested. The other AnyNet implementation which used to
be 
supported by VTAM is AnyNet Sockets over SNA which was withdrawn at the 
same time as AnyNet SNA over IP and for which there is - a pause for a
tear - 
no replacement.

AnyNet products are implementations of the Multiprotocol Transport 
Networking (MPTN) principle and there used to be quite a number where
one 
protocol suite switched to another protocol suite in principle at the
level of 
the transport layer of the ISO OSI model. Note that MPTN actually 
incorporates some RFCs.

I suppose AnyNet SNA over IP is "just like enterprise extender" since
the 
VBUILD TYPE=TCP is available in the same way as the VBUILD TYPE=XCA 
followed by PORT MEDIUM=HPRIP can be coded in a VTAM major node 
definition.

There is a difference in that the AnyNet components were always
described in 
separate manuals. See

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/F1A1BK61

You seem to imply that z/OS V1R7 is your current level. This being so,
you 
could have answered your first question from your installed VTAM.

Like Pat, I am somewhat puzzled by your terminology. You seem to have
the 
idea that the distributed platforms are tied to z/OS in some manner
other than 
that they both implement SNA. It is as if SNA were somehow a feature of 
z/OS that gets exported to distributed platforms in some way. I hope the

IBM "suits'" insistence back in about 1995 that "if it's SNA, whatever
the 
platform, it has to be a member of the 'Communications Server' family"
hasn't 
confused you appreciation of the technical truth. The "Communications 
Server" family label makes some sort of technical sense for all the
products so 
labeled ***with the very specific exception of the z/OS one*** because
the 
same software house was and is still I believe responsible for them. See

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/network/commserver/library/

and try to ignore the "Communications Server for zOS and CS390" entry!

You also rather mistakenly emphasise the word "gateway". I expect 
by "gateway" you refer to the optional and, to my mind, generally
unnecessary 
technique of having either LU type 2 (3270) or LU type 6.2 (APPC) data 
streams passed over a typically local IP network to the workstations
rather 
than extending SNA to the workstations and using an APN Network Node 
server or a Branch Extender Node[3]. Why mix your protocols when you
don't 
have to?

I guess this is all r

Re: Complexity (was Re: Convert DB2 on z/OS to Oracle on z/Linux?)

2009-07-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Jul 2009 14:00:07 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick
O'Keefe) wrote:

>That is probably the inevitable future, but the time frame is not at all
>clear, and the ecomonic break-even line between "do it in-house" and 
>"buy it" changes over time.   When you pass development and
>maintenance over to an outside vendor you also pass off control.  The
>vendor's "service" had better be a very good match to the business
>needs or the economic advantage disappears. 

But all they need are effective promises.   Once the old shop closes
down, it costs too much to undo the change.

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Re: Odd Behavior in PL/I Assignment Statement

2009-07-13 Thread Adam Johanson
> If the fields are 36 characters, why are 37 being displayed?

   Must just be how PL/I does it with the PUT SKIP LIST. I just ran a hello 
world program with no spaces at the end, but it printed out an additional one.


   A previous poster asked me put post all relevant delcarations, assignment 
stmts. with those variables, etc. This is a pretty good sized program and it 
would probably just be easier for someone to see the listing.

   I'm not sure if me sending the listing out to people would violate 
our "information privacy" mumbo-jumbo with some of our code, so I ought to 
err on the side of caution. I'll open up an ETR with IBM and let them have a 
look.

   Thanks for the attention and replies.

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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 10 Jul 2009 to 11 Jul 2009 (#2009-192)

2009-07-13 Thread Thompson, Steve
Sent from my Dick Tracy Two-Way Wrist Radio.  

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[no subject]

2009-07-13 Thread Bri P
Well, I did not know about that command option!

Easy as that - did the job.

Many thanks, Norbert!

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Subject: Re: non-SMS datasets on SMS volume

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:35:35 +0100, Bri P wrote:

>Somehow, I've managed to end up with several hundred non-SMS-managed
datasets on some SMS-managed volumes. I do want them to be SMS-managed;
others (more recent ones) are, and the ACS routines etc are in place for them.
>
>How do I (as painlessly as possible) get them SMS-managed?
>

CONVERTV SMS REDETERMINE (DFSMSdss)?


Norbert Friemel

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Re: non-SMS datasets on SMS volume

2009-07-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM


"Bri P"  wrote in message
news:<20090713103535.ls0uw.424049.r...@web03-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.co
m>...
> Hi folks
> 
> I'm sure I can't be the first to ask this, but I have unsuccessfully
searched the archives for an answer.. (Maybe I can't get the right
search arguments)
> 
> Somehow, I've managed to end up with several hundred non-SMS-managed
datasets on some SMS-managed volumes. I do want them to be SMS-managed;
others (more recent ones) are, and the ACS routines etc are in place for
them.
> 
> How do I (as painlessly as possible) get them SMS-managed?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Brian

I suppose you can move them from one volume to another and during the
move let the ACS routines assign SMS atributes to the new datasets.

Kees.
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Re: non-SMS datasets on SMS volume

2009-07-13 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:35:35 +0100, Bri P wrote:

>Somehow, I've managed to end up with several hundred non-SMS-managed
datasets on some SMS-managed volumes. I do want them to be SMS-managed;
others (more recent ones) are, and the ACS routines etc are in place for them.
>
>How do I (as painlessly as possible) get them SMS-managed?
>

CONVERTV SMS REDETERMINE (DFSMSdss)?


Norbert Friemel

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non-SMS datasets on SMS volume

2009-07-13 Thread Bri P
Hi folks

I'm sure I can't be the first to ask this, but I have unsuccessfully searched 
the archives for an answer.. (Maybe I can't get the right search arguments)

Somehow, I've managed to end up with several hundred non-SMS-managed datasets 
on some SMS-managed volumes. I do want them to be SMS-managed; others (more 
recent ones) are, and the ACS routines etc are in place for them.

How do I (as painlessly as possible) get them SMS-managed?

Thanks

Brian

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Re: INFOZIP >2Gb

2009-07-13 Thread Vikesh Bhoola
Thank you Bob for this.
I will test this out today & let you know if it works for me.

Thanks again,

Vikesh
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Re: Any product to undelete file?

2009-07-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM


"Paul Gilmartin"  wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:51:10 -0400, Bob Rutledge wrote:
> >
> > From the z/OS V1.11 Preview,
> >
> >"In z/OS V1.11, DFSMSdfp processing is planned to be changed to
indicate
> >end-of-file (EOF) during the allocation of data sets on DASD that are
not
> >SMS-managed and have either sequential or an undefined data set
organization."
> >
> "Indicate" is an interesting word.  It doesn't say it physically
> writes an end-of-file.  Is this a logical rather than  physical
> end-of-file.
> 
> Is this for data security or convenience?  Can the residual
> data still be read with EXCP?
> 

I think 'indicate' is the same method as for SMS datasets. AFAIK
DS1LSTAR is set to zeros and the Acces Methods 'know' then that this is
an empty dataset. These datasets can occupy 0 tracks, which is pysically
impossible if a EOF was written in the dataset.

Secondly, the EXCP question is similar to the 7 sysprogs and the
ligthbulb (and please don't reply if there were 5 or 8): if you need to
securely delete your data, delete it with the EREASE feature. Any other
'delete' will leave the data on the track and is therefor unsecure. I
can think of a dozen ways to read it.

Kees.
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