Re: Reentrant Programs and Protected Storage

2009-11-19 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Well, well. I amused about the discussion in this thread (no
offence intended). So many posts, but still neither the actual
abend including the reason, nor the PSW, nor the failing
instruction including the analysis what its operands are have
been posted. 
Neither has proof been provided that the program in question 
has really been loaded into SP 252 / Key 0. If that was
not the case, the whole discussion about RENT or not is
useless.

David, do you or don't you have a dump to look at? 

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Re: Tapeless???

2009-11-19 Thread R.S.

Howard Brazee pisze:

On 18 Nov 2009 07:26:26 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
wrote:

I heard about (poor in fact) tapeless mainframe shop. Everytime they had 
to install something from tape it was a nightmare: someone had to visit 
best colleague shop with tapes and download tape content. Last but not 
least: SMP/E RECEIVE is not easy in this scenario.


I worked at a place that kept some old Singer tape drives.But
mostly I've worked at places that have had to send some tapes out to a
service bureau to convert tapes from formats that they couldn't use.
Most sites don't have every kind of tape drive, so they limit what
people could send them or use the service bureau.


Well,
1. There are no such service bureaus in Poland. No such service 
officially available.


2. You don't need to have every kind of tape, just the most popular one. 
IMHO the most common denominator is 3490E. It can read CST and ECCST 
carts 18 trk and 36 trk, compressed or not. Even StorageTek used that 
format. Of course times are a changing, so I'm happy observing that most 
companies deliver software on CD/DVD media or Internet download. Except 
huge packages it is easier.




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Re: Image Copies

2009-11-19 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM


rr14 rr14r...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:9cc3bbe7-a4df-4b1d-a584-e6db2c599...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com
...
 Hello All,
 
 Seeking some advice/input.
 
 We are in the process of moving from 3490 to 3592 tapes.
 For most items we have completed and are implementing a transition to
 HSM volumes and then
 using HSM to archive to ML2 tapes.
 
 For our image copies though, the number and size would require us to
 do many HSM tape
 recycles.  Due to the length of time of the recycles, and that they
 would use all of our tape
 drives we would like to come up with a different scenario for the
 image copies.
 
 Our first thought was to put image copies on DASD, but that would
 require over 250 volumes.
 Our second thought was to write to DASD and then archive the contents
 to tape and reuse the
 volumes, and reuse the tapes every 10 days, thus only requiring 25
 volumes, but our DBA says
 the data sets need to remain cataloged.
 Do the image copy data sets have to remain cataloged for DB2 to be
 able to use them?
 
 We are a small shop and do not have the CPU to compress anything, and
 have a small pool of 3592 tapes, thus
 cannot allow jobs to write directly to the tapes.
 
 Virtual Tape products seem to have the same inherent issues as using
 HSM L2 processing.
 
 Does any one have a better idea?
 
 Thanks...Rob


Rob,

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Second, I don't do DB2 here, but I know a little how what they do.
If I understand you correctly, your main problem is the HSM tape
recycles. 

We have DMS (as HSM replacement) and also migrate image copies to ML2
tape, but don't ever recycle them. Our DB2 group has set up a
mechanisme/scheme for imagecopies, that runs periodically and at
regularl intervals also runs whether the data has changed or not. The
main reason is to limit the number of logtapes that must be processed
when recovering from very old imagecopies. For most tablespaces image
copies are taken at least every 2 or 3 weeks and those imagecopies are
given a retention period of 3 or 4 weeks. This means that they all
expire and free up the ML2 tapes automatically within 2 or 3 weeks,
without any need for consolidation/recycle.

Is this mechanisme usable for you?

Kees.
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Re: MQ set trigger and CICS

2009-11-19 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:17:15 +0900, Timothy Sipples
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote:

Bill, out of curiosity, why is(are) your CICS region(s) periodically (and
apparently for some duration, as your queue fills) not ready? It sounds

It does not take much duration to have the issue occur. Just the time to
bounce a CICS (even if it takes only a minute) can be enough. Been there...

Jantje.

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SV: Increase allowable length of JCL EXEC PARM value

2009-11-19 Thread Thomas Berg
FWIW, I liked the idea of (also) a new operand for the parm, 
like:

// PARM parmdata 

Where 'parmdata' have the syntax of:

  [len in dec,]parmvalue[,parmnumber]

'len in dec' defaults to the length of 'parmvalue'.
(If longer than the parmvalue it's padded with blanks.)

'parmnumber' for the *possibility* of multiple parms (parmlist format).

'parmvalue' could either be in char format like:
   'A parm value'
 or in hex like:
   4040403F(no quotes when in hex)
 or both like:
   '   '3F
  
For concatenation You do like:

// PARM 'parmvalue first part'
// PARM 'continuation of the parmvalue   '

which should be equvalent with:

// PARM 40,'parmvalue first part'
// PARM 40,'continuation of the parmvalue'

(that is: the total parmlen is 80.)



My experience from batch applications is that this would simplify 
much of the batch management.  (And operations of it.)
 

 

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 Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Don Williams
 Skickat: den 18 november 2009 20:13
 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Ämne: Re: Increase allowable length of JCL EXEC PARM value
 
 Based on suggestion from Shmuel, I requested that my DCR be amended...
 
 Hi Mike,  
   
   
   
 In a discussion about my PARMX suggestion with a IBM-MAIN 
 subscriber, he suggested that a customer site should be able 
 to control the max length 
 allowed. Therefore, if possible, I would like to amend by 
 previous  
 suggestion to the following:  
   
   
   
 1. Implementation of a JCL EXEC PARMX= keyword should not 
 change the
 implementation of the PARM= keyword.  
   
 2. Keywords PARM and PARMX should be mutually exclusive.  
   
 3. PARMX=value should create a standard parameter list.   
   
  a. GPR1 - standard 1 word plist (with end of list bit 
 turned on). 
  b. plist - unsigned half word length followed by the value 
 of that
 length.   
   
 4. Storage beyond the end of PARMX value should not be 
 predictable. 
 5. No part of the PARMX keyword or value needs to be stored 
 in any  
 internal blocks/fields related to current PARM keyword or 
 value. PARMX  
 could have new text units, etc.   
   
 6. Max length of PARMX value should be significantly longer 
 than 100
 characters.   
   
 In order of preference, reasonable max lengths could be:  
   
  a. 64 KiB-1 (max value of unsigned half word)
   
  b. 32 KiB-1 (max value of signed half word)  
   
  c. ~1000 bytes (may ease implementation in C/I, JES2, JES3, 
 etc.)  
 7. Sites should be able enable or disable the usage of PARMX 
 by one or  
 more of the following methods:
   
  a. System level parmlib parameter to:
   
   1) Enable/disable PARMX for non-authorized programs.
   
   2) Enable/disable PARMX for authorized programs.
   
   3) Set max allowed length of PARMX for non-authorized 
 programs.   
   4) Set max allowed length of PARMX for authorized programs. 
   
  b. JES level parameter to enable/disable PARMX by job class, 
 etc.  
  c. User/Group level SAF profile to control PARMX usage, 
 perhaps:   
  FACILITY class profile JCL.EXEC.PARMX.program
   
NONE - not allowed 
   
READ - allowed for non-authorized program  
   
UPDATE or higher - allowed for non-authorized and 
 authorized program 
   
   
 Thanks,   
   
 Don Williams  
   
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 09/11/18-12:49-   
  =HARRIS, JO-ANNE   -5752SC1B9  - 
 09/11/18-12:49-   
 Hi Don,   
   
Since Mike created the DCR, only he is allowed to update 
 it from 
 the submitter side.  He's not available at the moment, so 
 I'll requeue  
 this for him to update as soon as he can. 
   
Regards, Jo-Anne   
   
 . 
  

Re: URGENT : DFHSM QUESTION : IEC030I B37-04

2009-11-19 Thread willie bunter
I checked the 2 dsns in question they had reached the 16 extents.  The volume 
they reside on is practically empty.  I will (double) increase the size of the 
dsns.
 
Thanks to all who helped me out. 

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Michael W. Moss mikey.m...@virgin.net wrote:


From: Michael W. Moss mikey.m...@virgin.net
Subject: Re: URGENT : DFHSM QUESTION : IEC030I B37-04
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 9:33 AM


I guess you should review the various HSM messages to determine why the 
PDO (Problem Determination) files are filling so quickly, if that is the case, 
but 
you can live without PDO output in your critical situation.  It could also be 
that the DASD volumes containing the PDO files are full, so the PDO files can’t 
extend, hence your problem.  I would let your FREEVOL processes run to 
release your required disk space.

One unlikely thought that occurs.  If you were using SVA or iterations thereof, 
RVA/Iceberg, then this has Free Space release considerations when it 
becomes full or near full, which is a case or running their clean-up routines.

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:24:23 -0800, willie bunter 
williebun...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hallo All,
 
Because of critical space problems I migrated (issued command HSEND 
FREEVOL MVOL(SL1101) AGE(0) TARGETLEVEL(Ml2)) a Ml1 vol to ML2.  The 
process terminated after an hour.  Next I issued command HSEND FREEVOL 
MVOL(SL1101) TARGETLEVEL(ML1).  Presently it is executing.  However, I 
noticed in the STC there were various abend messages (when I issued the 
FREEVOL for TARGETLEVEL ML2  TARGETLEVEL ML1.  Would this cause a 
problem?  
IEC030I B37-
04,IFG0554A,DFHSMY,DFHSMY,ARCPDOX,9BEB,SMP103,HSM.HSMPDOXY
S DFHSMPDO    
ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  
327  
ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXY, 
ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYY 

I noticed that the dump switches from X to Y.  Can I stop the MIGRATE to 
stop this?  Or should I let it run its course.
 
Thanks.


      
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Re: Hardware withdrawal: IBM System z9

2009-11-19 Thread Jim Elliott, IBM
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:31:01 -0600, Michael W. Moss mikey.m...@virgin.net
wrote:

With sub-capacity and the promise of lower software costs via VWLC pricing,
would anybody like to comment as to why VWLC pricing isn’t being adopted?
Is it ELA/ESSO (IBM Contract) related, or the uncertainty of the software bill?

AFAIK, for DR situations and looping transactions, naming but 2, there are
caveats that mean IBM will not be punitive for extraordinary situations where
the VWLC bill is higher via an SCRT submission, as documneted in their
Planning for Sub-Capacity Pricing manual.  Coupled with the ability of “soft
capping” via a 3rd party software product (E.g. zCOST AutoSoftCapping) and
thus guaranteed VWLC high-watermark costs, it seems somewhat of a
paradox that customers aren’t adopting VWLC?

Mikey Moss.

Mickey:

Every customer should do a proper analysis of their total software bill to
determine which pricing model is best for them. While VWLC may be best for
most, I do have customers where due to usage characteristics, a combination
of PSLC and ULC works out better. We see this often where a customer has a
product which has ULC (Usage License Charge for DB2, CICS, IMS and MQ) which
has low utilization. When you go to VWLC all z/OS IBM products go to VWLC.

It is very important to read all the info at
http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/resources/swprice/.

Jim

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Re: High CPU / channel ovhd w/3592 and DFDSS

2009-11-19 Thread Scott Chapman
Small blocksize maybe?  Just a guess.

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Re: Are you an extinct dinosaur? Or a proud T-Rexxer?

2009-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 005d01ca649c$1836f0d0$48a4d2...@hollander@desertwiz.biz, on
11/13/2009
   at 12:01 PM, Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
norman.hollan...@desertwiz.biz said:

Here is the link
http://www.ibmsystemsmagmainframedigital.com/nxtbooks/ibmsystemsmag/mainfram
e_20091112/#/44

It appears to require flash, which is a security problem.
 
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WPS vs SAS WPS on zLinux

2009-11-19 Thread William Richter
It appears that SAS is getting some competition from WPS

http://teamwpc.co.uk/press/press_statement_le_claim

WPS licensing their product on zlinux hopefully will give SAS and incentive
to do the same.

http://www.teamwpc.co.uk/products/wps/platforms/zlinux

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Re: High CPU / channel ovhd w/3592 and DFDSS

2009-11-19 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Michael,

  Check your HSM Activity log for msg. ADR035I, then check the Optimize value. 

OPTIMIZE(4) will provide you with the least amount of physical I/O.

Change the DUMPIO(n) in HSM parmlib if necessary.

HTH,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: Michael R. Mayne [michael.ma...@hhsys.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:08 PM
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Subject: Re: High CPU / channel ovhd w/3592 and DFDSS

OK, I'll 'fess - the old tape subsystem is a 3490-A20 controller with 2
3490-B40 drive units.  The old tape subsystem has hardware compression, as
does the new.  I'll check for software compression (never thought of it,
actually), but I doubt that it's turned on.  If it was, I'd expect CPU (on
this box, which is a Uni) to be closer to 100% than 50%.  Compression would
also not explain why the CHPID utilization for the tapes is so high (and I
think the CHPID utilization is directly related to the CPU overhead).  Could
I have them defined inefficiently somehow in my IOCDS?  Am I doing bad
things to tape performance with DFSMS DATACLAS or STORCLAS settings?  I
guess I won't know exactly what's wrong until it's fixed...

Thanks.
-Mike

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Re: compiling Java question - z/OS jar(s) on non-z/OS?

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:46 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: compiling Java question - z/OS jar(s) on non-z/OS?
 
 That's why I was asking. I don't want to take a chance
 of violating our license. But, what is the difference
 between actually copying the file from z/OS to my Linux
 desktop, for the purpose of compilation, versus making
 the jar files available via NFS exports on the z/OS
 system to the Linux system?
 
 We can leave z/OS out of this discussion, because it isn't germane.
 Insert (machine-licensed) Oracle Database, for example, and 
 it'll be the
 same answer. Software which is licensed to a particular 
 machine is for that
 machine. If you want to run it on another machine, you need a 
 license for
 that machine. (With narrow exceptions if they're permitted in 
 the license
 agreement, such as disaster recovery. There is certain 
 permitted use of the
 ISPF Workstation Agent, to pick another example.)
 
 The technical means of copying the file(s) don't matter. 
 Floppy disk, NFS,
 BitTorrent... doesn't matter. Whole product or one file... 
 doesn't matter.
 The license agreement doesn't permit you to do any of those 
 things without
 a license for the target machine.

Looks like I didn't explain at all well. The software will not be RUNNING on 
another system. It resides on another system simply so that I can do the 
equivalent of a composite link of it into software that I am writing on the 
PC. The software which is being written and compiled on the PC will eventually 
run on z/OS and nowhere else. But, in order to do this compile and create a JAR 
file, the java compiler on the PC needs __READ__ access to the support jars. 
Again, the software will run only on the licensed machine and nowhere else.

But, at this point, I'm going to say nevermind. It is getting to complicated. 
I'm just going to drop the idea of learning about using Java on CICS entirely. 
I simply cannot do it on the mainframe. Management simply WILL NOT be 
understanding of my wasting of CPU resources, even if they are not being used 
for anything else and even if it does not in any way affect our costs. 'Nuff 
said about that.


 
 If you obtain the particular file in question from the vendor 
 through a
 vendor-authorized avenue, with a valid license agreement for 
 the target
 machine, then you're fine. Kirk described a vendor download path which
 looks OK.
 
 Your point is well taken. Which is why I have not done
 anything before determining what is allowed by the
 license.
 
 Thank goodness. At least one of my customers was not so prudent. :-(
 
 If you're in doubt about permitted use, just ask the vendor 
 first. I don't
 speak for IBM, but in my experience at least IBM is quite 
 reasonable when
 handling such questions and situations.

I don't have the authority. And since this is strictly for my learning purposes 
and not a requirement, management would not be open to asking frivolous 
questions of IBM.

 
 I'm sorry to hear about the corporate politics, with one IT group
 apparently determined to manage critical assets 
 inefficiently, knowingly,
 to the apparent detriment of the company's own business 
 interests. I have
 occasionally seen such behaviors. There are some ways to handle them.

firearms are not allowed in the building. grin

 
snip

Thanks for your cautions. I'm just giving up. It was a stupid idea anyway. 
(Stupid being defined as unimportant to management and so not relevant or 
worthy of any consideration)

 
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Re: compiling Java question - z/OS jar(s) on non-z/OS?

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:13 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: compiling Java question - z/OS jar(s) on non-z/OS?
 
 Raising warning of piracy or some nonsense over this is 
 pretty stupid.  It's
 a jar that's used to write software for z/OS.  It's not being 
 executed on
 your system, it's simply used to write software for z/OS.
 
 Furthermore,
 
 http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/zosjavabatchtk/download
 
 You can download it right there.
 
 Even if it weren't so widely available, common sense is a 
 good thing.  

Common sense is antithetical to legality.

 If
 you're copying something that is--specifically--a very 
 expensive/useful
 thing, you're probably liable to get slammed.  If you're 
 copying a .jar file
 so you can write Hello World onto a Mainframe console, IBM would be
 laughed out of court for suing you.

Assuming that I was not immediately fired by my company for causing them a 
legal problem. You have to make it to court, at a fair expense, before 
something can be laughed out of it. In the 80s, this would be no problem. 
Thanks to Bush and Obama, it is a major problem today. Sorry about the 
political jab - I hate all of them any more.

 
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Re: Image Copies

2009-11-19 Thread Schumacher, Otto
Yes, image copies are resistered in the DB2 bootstrap datasets. DB2 calls for 
these datasets when a database recovery is requested.  

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 Hello All,
 
 Seeking some advice/input.
 
 We are in the process of moving from 3490 to 3592 tapes.
 For most items we have completed and are implementing a transition to 
 HSM volumes and then using HSM to archive to ML2 tapes.
 
 For our image copies though, the number and size would require us to 
 do many HSM tape recycles.  Due to the length of time of the recycles, 
 and that they would use all of our tape drives we would like to come 
 up with a different scenario for the image copies.
 
 Our first thought was to put image copies on DASD, but that would 
 require over 250 volumes.
 Our second thought was to write to DASD and then archive the contents 
 to tape and reuse the volumes, and reuse the tapes every 10 days, thus 
 only requiring 25 volumes, but our DBA says the data sets need to 
 remain cataloged.
 Do the image copy data sets have to remain cataloged for DB2 to be 
 able to use them?
 
 We are a small shop and do not have the CPU to compress anything, and 
 have a small pool of 3592 tapes, thus cannot allow jobs to write 
 directly to the tapes.
 
 Virtual Tape products seem to have the same inherent issues as using 
 HSM L2 processing.
 
 Does any one have a better idea?
 
 Thanks...Rob


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Second, I don't do DB2 here, but I know a little how what they do.
If I understand you correctly, your main problem is the HSM tape recycles. 

We have DMS (as HSM replacement) and also migrate image copies to ML2 tape, but 
don't ever recycle them. Our DB2 group has set up a mechanisme/scheme for 
imagecopies, that runs periodically and at regularl intervals also runs whether 
the data has changed or not. The main reason is to limit the number of logtapes 
that must be processed when recovering from very old imagecopies. For most 
tablespaces image copies are taken at least every 2 or 3 weeks and those 
imagecopies are given a retention period of 3 or 4 weeks. This means that they 
all expire and free up the ML2 tapes automatically within 2 or 3 weeks, without 
any need for consolidation/recycle.

Is this mechanisme usable for you?

Kees.
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Re: compiling Java question - z/OS jar(s) on non-z/OS?

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
I'm the person (aka fool) who opened this can of worms. And, given what has 
been said, combined with my desire to not take chances and paranoia, I am not 
even going to consider trying. This was only for a learning experience for me. 
Once again, deliberately or not, IBM has made it impossible to learn z/OS 
technologies without paying them, or somebody, for the privilige. One, very 
real, reason that IBM might oppose compiling Java off-platform is simply 
because it could cost them money in terms of lost revenue. If you can do your 
compiles on Linux, then you don't need to do them on z/OS. Which means you 
don't need the CPU resource to do the compile. Which may mean that you could 
survive on a smaller processor. Which means less revenue to IBM. I don't really 
think this is IBM's logic, but hopefully everybody can see where I'm coming 
from.

If I could, I would totally abandon z/OS for Linux. Be it on a z or other 
processor, such as Intel. But I'm too old for anybody to think that I might 
understand new technologies. And, anyway, a younger, healther person is more 
cost effective. Hard to argue with that.


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Re: URGENT : DFHSM QUESTION : IEC030I B37-04

2009-11-19 Thread Darth Keller
I checked the 2 dsns in question they had reached the 16 extents.  The 
volume they reside on is practically empty.  I will (double) increase the 
size of the dsns.
 
You do realize that you will still see these dataset's swapping, right? 
This is normal behavior for HSM and is working as designed (and I'm not 
making any comments about the design).   Your activity caused the datasets 
to fill up and swap more frequently.

ddk 

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Re: WPS vs SAS WPS on zLinux

2009-11-19 Thread Scott Barry
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:38:22 -0600, William Richter richter...@cox.net wrote:

It appears that SAS is getting some competition from WPS

http://teamwpc.co.uk/press/press_statement_le_claim

WPS licensing their product on zlinux hopefully will give SAS and incentive
to do the same.

http://www.teamwpc.co.uk/products/wps/platforms/zlinux



Furthermore, MXG, likely many other SAS-based applications, today runs under
WPS on its supported OS platforms (z/OS MVS, *nix, Windows, zLinux, as
mentioned, and even a Mac).  

While CA is working diligently with WPS RD to develop their own CA MICS
supported environment for WPS on z/OS.

SAS Institute has decided to wake up and meet/greet the neighbors...finally!

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: compiling Java question - z/OS jar(s) on non-z/OS?

2009-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a3a2b85f0911182021q3d302e13n6f0bd73022a34...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/18/2009
   at 11:21 PM, Tony Harminc tz...@attglobal.net said:

and since it is well established that even such
transient action is copying under the copyright statues,

That falls under the fair use doctrine. IANAL, but I don't see how copying
macros and include files could be considered fair use, although there
might be antitrust issues in restricting their use.

Note that this is different from the issue of copying a copyrighted jar
for compilation on an unlicensed machine. It might be legal if you used
the byte code only on the machine it was licensed for, but it would
definitely be a violation if you ran the bytecode on an unlicensed
machine.

Has anybody checked, e.g., groklaw, on this?
 
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Re: GAM on z/OS R10

2009-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4b04d5f5.3000...@henness.org, on 11/19/2009
   at 12:21 AM, Tim Henness ibmm...@henness.org said:

Problem is, GAM is no longer supported by IBM.  Any suggestions would be 
helpful.

The first thing that I would check is the attention index that is present
in your 2250[1] UCB's. If that is correct, verify that you have the proper
attention routine for that attention index.

How much work would it be to recode your application to use GDDM and a
3270 simulator?

[1] I don't know whether there are separate device types for the
newer devices, so I'm using 2250 as a generic term.
 
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Re: Hardware withdrawal: IBM System z9

2009-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4b02cbff.6000...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 11/17/2009
   at 08:14 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said:

Is there something z9 does that z10 can't? Who will buy z9s with z10s 
available at the same price?

Is there a direct upgrade from, e.g., z890 to z10?
 
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Re: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?

2009-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of0bbe381c.bdfe6aff-on49257672.0026c938-49257672.00293...@us.ibm.com,
on 11/18/2009
   at 04:30 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com said:

JRIO and JZOS are IBM-supplied no additional charge collections of Java
methods specifically for (and provided with) the Java SDK for z/OS. They
help you perform z/OS-specific activities, such as reading/writing VSAM
files.

I believe that the OP gave a misleading subject; what he needs to know is
not how to read the file but rather how to access the data once he has
read them. That is, he wants to access individual fields in a record
defined by, e.g., an HLA mapping macro, a PL/I structure.
 
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Re: High CPU / channel ovhd w/3592 and DFDSS

2009-11-19 Thread Michael R. Mayne
This has always been a question - the DFHSM blocksize for BACKUP is
(apparently) fixed at 16K, and I know of no way to override it.  Any DFHSM
experts out there?

Thanks.
-Mike

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How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:08 AM
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 Subject: Re: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?
snip
 
 I believe that the OP gave a misleading subject; what he 
 needs to know is
 not how to read the file but rather how to access the data once he has
 read them. That is, he wants to access individual fields in a record
 defined by, e.g., an HLA mapping macro, a PL/I structure.
  
 -- 
  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

I'm the OP. And you are absolutely correct. So the question really is: Once 
I've read a record in Java, how do I access individual fields? So far, the 
best that I've seen is the Alphaworks code which can read COBOL ADATA and 
create Java code to access the fields. I was hoping for something simpler, 
more akin to how C (struct) or COBOL (data description entries) or HLASM 
(DSECT) would do it. Java just doesn't seem to have anything like this. Another 
person mentioned marshalling or serialization which might be another 
approach. I need to read up on them.

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Re: High CPU / channel ovhd w/3592 and DFDSS

2009-11-19 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
The answer used to be 'No' but that may have changed.

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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This has always been a question - the DFHSM blocksize for BACKUP is
(apparently) fixed at 16K, and I know of no way to override it.  Any DFHSM
experts out there?

Thanks.
-Mike

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Re: XMITMGR for 64 Bit Windows?

2009-11-19 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Hi Dennis. 

I think the 64-bit problem with XMITMGR is a problem with the installation
.exe and not with XMITMGR itself.  I think I remember having to copy it from
a 32-bit Windows PC to my 64-bit PC.  There might be a DLL to copy with
it--I'm sorry I don't remember.  If there was one, you might need REGSVR32
to register the dll after you copy it to your pc.

You might also need to go to the Properties tab and change the compatibility
mode as Lizette suggested--I have had to do that for several programs under
64-bit Vista.

hth
Wendell

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Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Ed Finnell
_Computer  glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch_ 
(http://www.marketwatch.com/story/computer-glitch-to-cause-flight-delays-across-us-2
009-11-19)  
 
Probably some 4th grader in lower Slobovia playing a slightly modified  
version of 'Blaster' 

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread esst...@juno.com
They probably moverd off of ACP/TPF to a smaller platform.
Typical for a non mainframe Platform

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_Computer  glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch_ 
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Probably some 4th grader in lower Slobovia playing a slightly modified  
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Antwort: How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)

2009-11-19 Thread Michael Klaeschen
John,

may be you'll get happy with pattern matching. Have you checked the 
java.util.regex package already? Try URL 
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/; for example. The classes for 
pattern matching, also known as regular expressions, are ready to use. 
Well, from my experiences regular expressions are not quite common amongst 
MVS folks, especially REXX or CoBOL programmers. These have other well 
working techniques and therefor no need for regular expressions. However, 
also z/OS Unix has regular expressions available -- a good start for 
reading might be Appendix C in the z/OS Unix Command Reference.

Cheers
Michael




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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:08 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?
snip
 
 I believe that the OP gave a misleading subject; what he 
 needs to know is
 not how to read the file but rather how to access the data once he has
 read them. That is, he wants to access individual fields in a record
 defined by, e.g., an HLA mapping macro, a PL/I structure.
 
 -- 
  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

I'm the OP. And you are absolutely correct. So the question really is: 
Once I've read a record in Java, how do I access individual fields? So 
far, the best that I've seen is the Alphaworks code which can read COBOL 
ADATA and create Java code to access the fields. I was hoping for 
something simpler, more akin to how C (struct) or COBOL (data 
description entries) or HLASM (DSECT) would do it. Java just doesn't seem 
to have anything like this. Another person mentioned marshalling or 
serialization which might be another approach. I need to read up on 
them.

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Systems Engineer IV
IT

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Re: High CPU / channel ovhd w/3592 and DFDSS

2009-11-19 Thread Hal Merritt
Can't speak to the CPU, but the tape channel utilization may be an indication 
of the much higher performance tape units. Historically, many tape unit models 
can consume most of a channel path. 

The low DASD channel utilization may point to compression for that resource. 

Perhaps the DASD really is compressed and the tape not. That would be a simple 
explanation that fits your observations.  

HTH and good luck 


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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM
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Subject: High CPU / channel ovhd w/3592 and DFDSS

Our environment is a single z9-BC mainframe (2096-R07(I01)), z/OS V1R9 @
RSU0906, a 3592-C06 tape controller w/2 FX4 channels, and 3592-E05 (TS1120)
tape drives.

We're performing initial testing towards migrating to current tape hardware
from (please don't ask, too embarrassed to tell).  Using DFHSM (with DFDSS
as the data mover) to back up a single 18GB sequential file (non compressed)
to dual TS1120 tape drives is consuming over 50% of the total CPU.  Looking
at the FICON performance numbers while this is happening, I see huge (25% to
40%) utilization numbers for the 2 FX4 CHPIDS driving the tape controller,
while the 2 FX4 CHPIDS connected to the DASD array are running only about 5%
utilization apiece.  50% of our CPU seems (to me, anyway) to be a high price
to pay to back up a single sequential file.  I'm looking for (any or all of
these):  similar experiences, is this normal or whacked out, any tuning or
performance tips that might help, how to determine exactly where the
overhead is coming from, and (last but not least) how to approach IBM to
address this issue.  All constructive comments, questions and suggestions
appreciated.

Thanks.
-Mike

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Re: Antwort: How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Klaeschen
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:13 AM
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 Subject: Antwort: How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using 
 Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)
 
 John,
 
 may be you'll get happy with pattern matching. Have you checked the 
 java.util.regex package already? Try URL 
 http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/; for example. The classes for 
 pattern matching, also known as regular expressions, are 
 ready to use. 
 Well, from my experiences regular expressions are not quite 
 common amongst 
 MVS folks, especially REXX or CoBOL programmers. These have 
 other well 
 working techniques and therefor no need for regular 
 expressions. However, 
 also z/OS Unix has regular expressions available -- a good start for 
 reading might be Appendix C in the z/OS Unix Command Reference.
 
 Cheers
 Michael

I'm a heavy Perl coder in Linux. I love regular expressions. I hadn't thought 
of using them in this context. Something to consider. Also, the current ibmjzos 
has a LOT more in it that when I first looked at it. It may have everything 
that I need to get going. Unfortunately, I'm now back at my previous problem of 
can I download this jar to my PC in order to do my compiles (not tests!) using 
it so that management stays off my back? I can get away with small test runs 
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Re: Antwort: How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)

2009-11-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
John,

You can definitely download the alphaWorks JZOS version and use it on
your PC - check the alphaWorks license included in the package.

I don't see how regular expressions apply to this problem.

The issue at hand is that Java keeps data in objects; objects have
instance variables (slots) that can be either primitives (int, char,
byte, boolean, long, float, double, etc) or references to other
objects.   Strings are objects (an immutable sequence of chars),
decimal numbers are objects (BigDecimal), and so are Arrays.   A
record read into Java from a dataset is a byte array  (byte[]).
If that record is defined by a Cobol copy book or Assembler DSECT,
then you have to somewhere have Java code that converts fields in the
byte array into Java objects (primitives, Strings, BigDecimal objects,
etc) and back again.

JZOS has two things to help with this:

1) Field converter classes.   These are classes in the
com.ibm.jzos.fields package, and they can be used to convert fields in
byte arrays into Java primitives and objects.   There are converters
for all of the Cobol and Assembler data types.  The field converter
classes are included in both the SDK and alphaWorks versions of JZOS.

2) Record Generator tools.  These read Cobol or Assember ADATA files
and generate the source code for a Java Class (Bean) that can be used
as a wrapper for a record (byte array).   The generated class will
layout the record in terms of configured field converters, and
provide getter and setter methods for each field defined in the
record.   Although these tools are only included in the alphaWorks
version of JZOS, the generated code can run with the SDK version (only
the fields package is used at runtime).

The JZOS Cookbook (available on alphaWorks) has example code and
documentation on using the JZOS Record Generator.   And BTW, this code
runs on any platform although the SDK version is only available and
supported by IBM on z/OS.

Kirk Wolf
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:32 AM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Klaeschen
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:13 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Antwort: How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using
 Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)

 John,

 may be you'll get happy with pattern matching. Have you checked the
 java.util.regex package already? Try URL
 http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/; for example. The classes for
 pattern matching, also known as regular expressions, are
 ready to use.
 Well, from my experiences regular expressions are not quite
 common amongst
 MVS folks, especially REXX or CoBOL programmers. These have
 other well
 working techniques and therefor no need for regular
 expressions. However,
 also z/OS Unix has regular expressions available -- a good start for
 reading might be Appendix C in the z/OS Unix Command Reference.

 Cheers
 Michael

 I'm a heavy Perl coder in Linux. I love regular expressions. I hadn't 
 thought of using them in this context. Something to consider. Also, the 
 current ibmjzos has a LOT more in it that when I first looked at it. It may 
 have everything that I need to get going. Unfortunately, I'm now back at my 
 previous problem of can I download this jar to my PC in order to do my 
 compiles (not tests!) using it so that management stays off my back? I can 
 get away with small test runs in the sandbox. I cannot get away with doing 
 compiles.

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Re: Antwort: How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
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 Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)
 
 John,
 
 You can definitely download the alphaWorks JZOS version and use it on
 your PC - check the alphaWorks license included in the package.
 
 I don't see how regular expressions apply to this problem.
 
snip
 
 The JZOS Cookbook (available on alphaWorks) has example code and
 documentation on using the JZOS Record Generator.   And BTW, this code
 runs on any platform although the SDK version is only available and
 supported by IBM on z/OS.
 
 Kirk Wolf
 Dovetailed Technologies
 http://dovetail.com

Thanks. That will help. Sorry if I came across as bitchy about IBM. But I am 
more than a bit put off by what seems to be an attitude of rake in the money 
today and to the nether regions about the future attitude which seems to 
pervade some of the z/OS arena (not the techies - the management / bean 
counters).

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Hal Merritt
The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a 
document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data Interchange 
Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-year logistical 
and service support

The FAA is implementing the Stratus servers, which use Intel Xeon 2.8 MHz 
large cache MP processors and support the Microsoft Windows operating system, 
at control centers in Atlanta and Salt Lake City.

Uninterrupted availability of the NADIN 1 is important to all aspects of the 
aviation industry, as well as the nation's economy and, increasingly, as a tool 
to help protect national security. After thorough technology and product 
evaluations, Stratus was chosen as best able to provide an open platform with 
99.999 percent uptime reliability - which is mandatory for running an 
application as important as NADIN 1 - together with the required caliber of 
maintenance, logistical support, and long service life.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_March_14/ai_n12936121/

Silly me: I had thought that Windows and 99.999 uptime was an oxymoron. 

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ketWatch

They probably moverd off of ACP/TPF to a smaller platform.
Typical for a non mainframe Platform

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Subject: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - 
MarketWatch
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:53:16 EST

_Computer  glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch_ 
(http://www.marketwatch.com/story/computer-glitch-to-cause-flight-delays-across-us-2
009-11-19)  
 
Probably some 4th grader in lower Slobovia playing a slightly modified  
version of 'Blaster' 

  
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Re: High CPU / channel ovhd w/3592 and DFDSS

2009-11-19 Thread John Laubenheimer
Two thoughts here.

1) Your new tape drives accept data at a faster rate than your old tape 
drives.  Therfore, you might expect that DFHSM is reading the DASD at a 
faster rate; hence, DFHSM gets dispatched more frequently.  This would 
increase the apparent CPU utilization of DFHSM.  However, since your backup 
completes in a shorter amount of time, the average CPU utilization of DFHSM 
should remain the same (or similar).

2) Check you HSM parameters.  Use SETSYS TAPEHARDWARECOMPACT to 
notify DFHSM that your tape drives have this feature.  And, check your 
SETSYS COMPACT parameter:
SETSYS COMPACT(DASDMIGRATE NOTAPEMIGRATE DASDBACKUP 
NOTAPEBACKUP) 
  /* USE COMPACTION FOR:*/
  /*MIGRATION TO DASD   */
  /*BACKUPTO DASD   */
  /* DO NOT USE COMPACTION FOR: */
  /*MIGRATION TO TAPE   */
  /*BACKUPTO TAPE   */
You really don't need DFHSM to compact your data; the tape hardware does 
this for you.  (Of course, if you do compact your tape backup in software, 
you're doing much more of this operation per second, since you are processing 
more data.)

Of course, this may/may not be your problem; and, as always, YMMV.

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:49 -0600, Hal Merritt 
hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote:

snip
After thorough technology and product evaluations, Stratus was chosen as 
best able to provide an open platform with 99.999 percent uptime reliability 
/snip

Guess they got their .001.

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
Real oxymoron - Windows, open platform, and 99.999 percent uptime.

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 U.S. - Mar ketWatch
 
 The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to 
 a document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data 
 Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 
 10-year logistical and service support
 
 The FAA is implementing the Stratus servers, which use Intel Xeon 2.8 
 MHz large cache MP processors and support the Microsoft Windows 
 operating system, at control centers in Atlanta and Salt Lake City.
 
 Uninterrupted availability of the NADIN 1 is important to all aspects 
 of the aviation industry, as well as the nation's economy and, 
 increasingly, as a tool to help protect national security. After 
 thorough technology and product evaluations, Stratus was chosen as 
 best able to provide an open platform with 99.999 percent uptime 
 reliability
 - which is mandatory for running an application as important as NADIN 
 1
 - together with the required caliber of maintenance, logistical 
 support, and long service life.
 
 http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_March_14/ai_n12936
 12
 1/
 
 Silly me: I had thought that Windows and 99.999 uptime was an oxymoron.
 
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 Subject: Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across 
 U.S. - Mar ketWatch
 
 They probably moverd off of ACP/TPF to a smaller platform.
 Typical for a non mainframe Platform
 
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 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. 
 - MarketWatch
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:53:16 EST
 
 _Computer  glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch_
 (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/computer-glitch-to-cause-flight-
 delays-across-us-2
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Re: Antwort: How to access FIELDS in a RECORD using Java? (was:RE: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?)

2009-11-19 Thread Jon Brock
The next time you start a compile, toss some coins on the floor.  The shiny 
money usually distracts them.

Jon


snip
Unfortunately, I'm now back at my previous problem of can I download this jar 
to my PC in order to do my compiles (not tests!) using it so that management 
stays off my back? I can get away with small test runs in the sandbox. I 
cannot get away with doing compiles.
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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Nemo
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:49 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:

The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a 
document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data 
Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-
year logistical and service support

The FAA is implementing the Stratus servers, which use Intel Xeon 2.8 MHz 
large cache MP processors and support the Microsoft Windows operating 
system, at control centers in Atlanta and Salt Lake City.
 
 
The problem seems to me to be that they are using Xeon processors operating 
in the 2.8 MHz (megahertz) speed range instead of their normal 2.8 GHz 
(gigahertz) speed.  (Or else the article got it wrong -- but that can't be 
since 
those are professional journalists.) 
 
Seriously UNDERclocked processors?  
 
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Re: GAM on z/OS R10

2009-11-19 Thread Jim Phoenix

Tim,

Are you running with UseZosV1R9Rules(Yes) coded?  The change in GETMAIN 
behavior may have uncovered an old bug.  With any luck, the bug is in 
application code you can fix.


Tim Henness wrote:

Is anyone successfully running GAM/SP (FMID HGA1310) on z/OS R10?

For that matter, is anyone else here still running GAM at all?

We have been run applications that use a 5080 emulator through 6098 
controllers successfully on z/OS R9.  When we try running it on z/OS 
R10 they are failing.  The GAM IVP application will display an image 
properly, but inputs are not getting through to the application.


Problem is, GAM is no longer supported by IBM.  Any suggestions would 
be helpful.


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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Alex UMX
Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not 
reliable = about 8 hours per year.
Not to confuse with z/VM reliability that was 99.99  if I recall it 
correctly 
back in 1991 or so for VM/ESA 1.0.

cheers,
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Re: XMITMGR for 64 Bit Windows?

2009-11-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
It would be very nice, IMO, if there were an open source, portable
program to pack and unpack XMITs.  Java would be nice, so that a
single binary build would serve all comers.

Anyone interested in donating/writing something or collaborating?
Pointers to existing open code or docs on the format would be helpful.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Wendell Lovewell
wlovew...@mackinney.com wrote:
 Hi Dennis.

 I think the 64-bit problem with XMITMGR is a problem with the installation
 .exe and not with XMITMGR itself.  I think I remember having to copy it from
 a 32-bit Windows PC to my 64-bit PC.  There might be a DLL to copy with
 it--I'm sorry I don't remember.  If there was one, you might need REGSVR32
 to register the dll after you copy it to your pc.

 You might also need to go to the Properties tab and change the compatibility
 mode as Lizette suggested--I have had to do that for several programs under
 64-bit Vista.

 hth
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Re: WPS vs SAS WPS on zLinux

2009-11-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
SAS is a great product with great history; its only natural (and good)
for there to be competition.
Here's another:  http://www.dullesopen.com/products/features

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Scott Barry sba...@sbbworks.com wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:38:22 -0600, William Richter richter...@cox.net 
 wrote:

It appears that SAS is getting some competition from WPS

http://teamwpc.co.uk/press/press_statement_le_claim

WPS licensing their product on zlinux hopefully will give SAS and incentive
to do the same.

http://www.teamwpc.co.uk/products/wps/platforms/zlinux



 Furthermore, MXG, likely many other SAS-based applications, today runs under
 WPS on its supported OS platforms (z/OS MVS, *nix, Windows, zLinux, as
 mentioned, and even a Mac).

 While CA is working diligently with WPS RD to develop their own CA MICS
 supported environment for WPS on z/OS.

 SAS Institute has decided to wake up and meet/greet the neighbors...finally!

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:33:31 -0600, Alex UMX wrote:

Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 8 hours per year.

Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/10 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 0.1 hours per year.

Not to confuse with z/VM reliability that was 99.99  if I recall it 
correctly
back in 1991 or so for VM/ESA 1.0.

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hal Merritt
 
 The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to
a document dated March, 2005:
 FAA modernizing National Airspace Data Interchange Network with
Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to
 provide 10-year logistical and service support
 
 The FAA is implementing the Stratus servers, which use Intel Xeon 2.8
MHz large cache MP processors
 and support the Microsoft Windows operating system, at control centers
in Atlanta and Salt Lake City.
 
 Uninterrupted availability of the NADIN 1 is important to all aspects
of the aviation industry, as
 well as the nation's economy and, increasingly, as a tool to help
protect national security. After
 thorough technology and product evaluations, Stratus was chosen as
best able to provide an open
 platform with 99.999 percent uptime reliability - which is mandatory
for running an application as
 important as NADIN 1 - together with the required caliber of
maintenance, logistical support, and long
 service life.
 

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_March_14/ai_n1293612
1/
 
 Silly me: I had thought that Windows and 99.999 uptime was an
oxymoron.

And Windows is about as open as was the former Soviet Union.

-jc-

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Pace
When they use the term 5 nines, I always question where the decimal point
is?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Alex UMX lba...@bellatlantic.net wrote:

 Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not
 reliable = about 8 hours per year.
 Not to confuse with z/VM reliability that was 99.99  if I recall it
 correctly
 back in 1991 or so for VM/ESA 1.0.

 cheers,
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Re: XMITMGR for 64 Bit Windows?

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Re: XMITMGR for 64 Bit Windows?
 
 It would be very nice, IMO, if there were an open source, portable
 program to pack and unpack XMITs.  Java would be nice, so that a
 single binary build would serve all comers.
 
 Anyone interested in donating/writing something or collaborating?
 Pointers to existing open code or docs on the format would be helpful.
 
 Kirk Wolf
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Looks like there is some HLASM source for this on 
http://cbttape.org/cbtdowns.htm in file 571. From that, one could make a 
document of what an XMIT file looks like. From that, code could be written.

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Hal Merritt
LOL - good catch. Even better, the quoted 'article' sure looked like a press 
release from Stratus.  

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:49 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:

The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a 
document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data 
Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-
year logistical and service support

The FAA is implementing the Stratus servers, which use Intel Xeon 2.8 MHz 
large cache MP processors and support the Microsoft Windows operating 
system, at control centers in Atlanta and Salt Lake City.
 
 
The problem seems to me to be that they are using Xeon processors operating 
in the 2.8 MHz (megahertz) speed range instead of their normal 2.8 GHz 
(gigahertz) speed.  (Or else the article got it wrong -- but that can't be 
since 
those are professional journalists.) 
 
Seriously UNDERclocked processors?  
 
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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Thompson, Steve
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U.S. - Mar ketWatch

Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is
not 
reliable = about 8 hours per year.
Not to confuse with z/VM reliability that was 99.99  if I recall it
correctly 
back in 1991 or so for VM/ESA 1.0.

SNIP

Let me try to put this into some perspective. This is the flight plan
system. Its failure means that flight plans must be entered by FAA
personnel manually.

Let us look at ATC reliability. If ATC were to have a 99.9% reliability
at Chicago O'Hare -- 1 fatal accident per hour. 99.999 was 1 per month.
I attended an FAA presentation where they were putting the percentages
of reliability into terms that had meaning for the average person (in
that presentation, the average person was a licensed pilot).  

Regards,
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Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Raquel Calvo Olmos
Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for 
exemple, 2010. 

Thanks in advanced. 

Regards,
Raquel Calvo.  

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread John Laubenheimer
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0600, Raquel Calvo Olmos 
raquel_ca...@everis-outsourcing.com wrote:

Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems.

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date?

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for
exemple, 2010.

Thanks in advanced.

Regards,
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This was done on a regular basis about 10 years (or so) ago, when everybody 
was testing for Y2K.

What you are proposing is not a good idea.  Various system components may 
not react well when the clock is turned back.

There were many date and time testing packages available for Y2K testing ... 
HOURGLASS 2000, from a company canned MAINWARE, was just one of these.  
I'm sure that a few might still be available.  You can check the internet 
(google) for their web site.  Else, search on Y2K TESTING MAINFRAME for 
other related software packages.

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


lba...@bellatlantic.net (Alex UMX) writes:
 Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not 
 reliable = about 8 hours per year.
 Not to confuse with z/VM reliability that was 99.99  if I recall it 
 correctly 
 back in 1991 or so for VM/ESA 1.0.

about that period, we marketed ha/cmp for 1-800 against stratus. at the
time stratus took down system for software maintenance (would have
outage that precluded even five-nines). ha/cmp could have fall-over
between multiple servers as part of maint. strategy ... limiting outage
to few seconds. the response was that then stratus could install
multiple servers in (software fall-over) HA configuration ... to
eliminate maint.  outage window. the response was then why spend for the
hardware redundancy 

as an aside their box was also being relogo'ed and marketed as the S/88.

this recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#85 Anyone going to Supercomputers '09 in 
Portland

has some old marketplace news abstracts (29jun92) mentioning
remarketing branded stratus box ... the article might have a
misstatement ... the amount was what was paid for the program ... not
that much was actually sold.

as an aside ... i believe FAA has had some number of Flex-ES
installations (running mainframe software on intel platforms) ... old
post mentioning Flex-ES also available on stratus boxes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#10 Low-end processors (again)

for random other drift ... recent posts about old Jim Gray paper that
by early 80s, majority of outages had shifted from hardware faults to
other things 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#5 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#39 repeat after me:  RAID != backup
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#47 repeat after me:  RAID != backu

including scan of old copy of a version of presentation that I had
laying around ... and put up on the web:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/grayft84.pdf

I've mentioned before Jim and I had something of dust-up at acm sigops
in '91 about whether commodity components could be used for HA operation
... he was still at DEC and their party-line was vax/cluster. later when
he moved to m'soft ... he was up on stage for the announcement of m'soft
HA fallover product.

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Re: OA30702

2009-11-19 Thread Ken Porowski
Fix available

PE PTF List:UA49994 UA49993 UA49995
 
  PTF List:
  Release 740   : UA50896 available 09/11/11 (1000 )
  Release 750   : UA50897 available 09/11/11 (1000 )
  Release 760   : UA50898 available 09/11/11 (1000 ) 

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Watch out for this one folks.   UA49994 (1.10), UA49993 (1.9) , (I don't
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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Brian Peterson
For what it's worthHourglass is now an IBM product.

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/hourglass/

Brian

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:06:28 -0600, John Laubenheimer wrote:
(snip)
There were many date and time testing packages available for Y2K testing ...
HOURGLASS 2000, from a company canned MAINWARE, was just one of these.
I'm sure that a few might still be available.  You can check the internet
(google) for their web site.  Else, search on Y2K TESTING MAINFRAME for
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FTP TLS fails.

2009-11-19 Thread Hal Merritt
Cross posted to RACF

I am attempting a TLS FTP connection from a PC to the z/os server and getting 
the following trace entry:

BPXF024I (SYSLOGD) Nov 19 17:56:37 TST2 ftps 50331664 : FR0578 270
authClient: init failed with rc = 428 (Key entry does not contain a
private key)

I believe I am specifying server only authentication, so why is the client 
being authenticated?

Or is this some issue with the server's certificate?

Thanks!!

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Did I miss the part of the article that said it was an operating system 
failure?  Could it have been a CPU failure?  An application failure?  A network 
switch failure?  A power failure?  How many simultaneous failures does it take 
to bring down a site?  Why was the recovery time so long?

And finally, why are we spending so much time on obviously incomplete and 
inaccurate articles?

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The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a 
document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data Interchange 
Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-year logistical 
and service support

The FAA is implementing the Stratus servers, which use Intel Xeon 2.8 MHz 
large cache MP processors and support the Microsoft Windows operating system, 
at control centers in Atlanta and Salt Lake City.

Uninterrupted availability of the NADIN 1 is important to all aspects of the 
aviation industry, as well as the nation's economy and, increasingly, as a tool 
to help protect national security. After thorough technology and product 
evaluations, Stratus was chosen as best able to provide an open platform with 
99.999 percent uptime reliability - which is mandatory for running an 
application as important as NADIN 1 - together with the required caliber of 
maintenance, logistical support, and long service life.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_March_14/ai_n12936121/

Silly me: I had thought that Windows and 99.999 uptime was an oxymoron.

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They probably moverd off of ACP/TPF to a smaller platform.
Typical for a non mainframe Platform

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:53:16 EST

_Computer  glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch_
(http://www.marketwatch.com/story/computer-glitch-to-cause-flight-delays-across-us-2
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Probably some 4th grader in lower Slobovia playing a slightly modified
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Re: A big contributor to S/360

2009-11-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 Nov 2009 18:32:07 -0800, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel
Metz  , Seymour J.) wrote:

Describing the 1410 as superior to current machines is bizarre, and citing
powers of 2 as an example

 With his SPACE machine, Underwood remembers, you could
 calculate the powers of 2 with a mere nine instructions.
 Today, you'd need tens of thousands, he says.
 That's terrible. 

is just ludicrous. It's hard to imagine taking tens of instructions, much
less tens of thousands, even for a really bad programmer.

A power of two calculation could vary from a bit shift at the
smallest, to copying whatever macro is set up for multiplying.   Maybe
he's counting the instructions involved in a compile and run...

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Re: WPS vs SAS WPS on zLinux

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:49:05 -0600, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

SAS is a great product with great history; its only natural (and good)
for there to be competition.
Here's another:  http://www.dullesopen.com/products/features


Great.  Convert it from one CPU hog to another.  :-)

I wonder which uses more CPU resources (not taking zAAP savings into account)?

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:06:28 -0600, John Laubenheimer
jlaubenhei...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0600, Raquel Calvo Olmos
raquel_ca...@everis-outsourcing.com wrote:

Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems.

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date?

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for
exemple, 2010.

Thanks in advanced.

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This was done on a regular basis about 10 years (or so) ago, when everybody
was testing for Y2K.

What you are proposing is not a good idea.  Various system components may
not react well when the clock is turned back.

There were many date and time testing packages available for Y2K testing ...
HOURGLASS 2000, from a company canned MAINWARE, was just one of these.
I'm sure that a few might still be available.  You can check the internet
(google) for their web site.  Else, search on Y2K TESTING MAINFRAME for
other related software packages.


I though HourGlass was from Princeton Softech.  Anyway, IBM owns it now.

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 19 Nov 2009 12:05:22 -0800, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:

Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 8 hours per year.

Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/10 of the time the thing is not
reliable = about 0.1 hours per year.

Of course, we also have to agree on what reliable means.

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread John Laubenheimer
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:08:09 -0600, Mark Zelden 
mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote:

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:06:28 -0600, John Laubenheimer
jlaubenhei...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:52:50 -0600, Raquel Calvo Olmos
raquel_ca...@everis-outsourcing.com wrote:

Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems.

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date?

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for
exemple, 2010.

Thanks in advanced.

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This was done on a regular basis about 10 years (or so) ago, when 
everybody
was testing for Y2K.

What you are proposing is not a good idea.  Various system components may
not react well when the clock is turned back.

There were many date and time testing packages available for Y2K 
testing ...
HOURGLASS 2000, from a company canned MAINWARE, was just one of 
these.
I'm sure that a few might still be available.  You can check the internet
(google) for their web site.  Else, search on Y2K TESTING MAINFRAME for
other related software packages.


I though HourGlass was from Princeton Softech.  Anyway, IBM owns it now.

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I just went into the SAMPLIB dataset ... it said MAINWARE there.  Oh well. 
chained acquisitions!  I guess you can't tell who owns something anymore 
without a scorecard.

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Ken Porowski
Would this be for the CA-Top Secret temporary dataset name issue?  

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Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for
exemple, 2010. 

Thanks in advanced. 

Regards,
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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Raquel Calvo Olmos
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:53 PM
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 Subject: Change system date
 
 Hi there,
 
 We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 
 
 Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 
 
 We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other 
 year, for 
 exemple, 2010. 
 
 Thanks in advanced. 
 
 Regards,
 Raquel Calvo.  

You can do this in z/VSE. But there isn't such a thing in z/OS. During Y2K, 
there were products which could do this. I don't know if they are still 
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Re: WPS vs SAS WPS on zLinux

2009-11-19 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
So is this Carolina product actually an interpretation of an interpreted
language?  Do the lights in the data center dim when you merely mention
the name?  :-)

Rex

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:49:05 -0600, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

SAS is a great product with great history; its only natural (and good)
for there to be competition.
Here's another:  http://www.dullesopen.com/products/features


Great.  Convert it from one CPU hog to another.  :-)

I wonder which uses more CPU resources (not taking zAAP savings into
account)?

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Re: Prevent ISMF Access Via RACF

2009-11-19 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Why are you using a DSS manual to find the details of ISMF?

Try the DFSMSdfp Storage Administration manual (SC26-7402-13 for z/OS 1.11).  
In chapter 14, it says you can limit access to all of ISMF by placing module 
DGTFMD01 under program control.  You should read all the sections dealing with 
protecting ISMF functions.

All of which raises the question - why?  Certain functions obviously should be 
restricted but total denial seems to be overkill.

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z/OS V1R9.0 DFSMSdss Storage Administration Guide
SC35-0423-08

The above manual states

...You can set authorization levels for the following ISMF elements by using
the program control feature of the z/OS Security Server RACF component:

ISMF itself


It then discusses using RACF program control to protect parts and pieces of
ISMF.

I have not found how to prevent any/all access to ISMF.

Anyone know where to find the RACF profile(s) needed to prevent access to
ISMF?

Thanks,
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Re: A big contributor to S/360

2009-11-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
Maybe he should also add in the number of instructions that it takes to IPL the 
operating system, start JESx, one initiator, etc.  In other words, let's 
compare paper clips to aircraft carriers.

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On 18 Nov 2009 18:32:07 -0800, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel
Metz  , Seymour J.) wrote:

Describing the 1410 as superior to current machines is bizarre, and citing
powers of 2 as an example

 With his SPACE machine, Underwood remembers, you could
 calculate the powers of 2 with a mere nine instructions.
 Today, you'd need tens of thousands, he says.
 That's terrible. 

is just ludicrous. It's hard to imagine taking tens of instructions, much
less tens of thousands, even for a really bad programmer.

A power of two calculation could vary from a bit shift at the
smallest, to copying whatever macro is set up for multiplying.   Maybe
he's counting the instructions involved in a compile and run...

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Ken Porowski
 
Tongue in cheek reply.

Because we take a perverse pleasure in seeing squatty box failures when
the reliability (FSVO reliability) of a Mainframe is called for?

Or to keep it on topic.

We wish to learn from others mistakes.  Unfortunately that would require
fairly accurate info so the various theories abound..


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Schwarz, Barry A

And finally, why are we spending so much time on obviously incomplete
and inaccurate articles?

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


Anne  Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
 for random other drift ... recent posts about old Jim Gray paper that
 by early 80s, majority of outages had shifted from hardware faults to
 other things 
 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#5 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#39 repeat after me:  RAID != backup
 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#47 repeat after me:  RAID != backu

 including scan of old copy of a version of presentation that I had
 laying around ... and put up on the web:
 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/grayft84.pdf

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#26 Check out Computer glitch to cause 
flight delays across U.S. - MarketWatch

when I was out marketing ha/cmp, 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

I coined the terms disaster survivability and geographic surviability
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#available

and I got asked to write a section in the corporate continuous
availability strategy document ... but it got pulled because both
rochester  pok objected (because at the time, they couldn't meet the
requirements).

after we left, we spent some time with large national financial
network. they claimed 100% availability for extended number of years was
because of

1) ims hot-standby
2) automated operator

... the ims hot-standby involved machines separated by geographic
distances (failures had shifted primarily to human mistakes and local
environmental conditions).

some of this was back to when my wife had been con'ed into doing a stint
in POK responsible for loosely-coupled architecture ... where she
created peer-coupled shared data architecture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

... which, except for ims hot-standby ... saw very little uptake until
sysplex. that and the battles with the communication group oper whether
SNA had to be used for loosely-coupled coordination, resulted in her not
staying long in the position.

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
Looks like a router failure

http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?s=FAAnewsalert
 

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 U.S. - Mar ketWatch
 
 On 19 Nov 2009 12:05:22 -0800, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
 wrote:
 
 Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/1 of the time the thing 
 is
 not
 reliable = about 8 hours per year.
 
 Well, 99.999% reliability means that 1/10 of the time the thing 
 is
 not
 reliable = about 0.1 hours per year.
 
 Of course, we also have to agree on what reliable means.
 
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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:56:25 -0700, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG) 
dennis.ro...@lmco.com wrote:

Looks like a router failure

http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?
s=FAAnewsalert


4 hours to fix a router?  Good Grief.

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Re: XMITMGR for 64 Bit Windows?

2009-11-19 Thread Roy Hewitt

McKown, John wrote:

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It would be very nice, IMO, if there were an open source, portable
program to pack and unpack XMITs.  Java would be nice, so that a
single binary build would serve all comers.

Anyone interested in donating/writing something or collaborating?
Pointers to existing open code or docs on the format would be helpful.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


Looks like there is some HLASM source for this on 
http://cbttape.org/cbtdowns.htm in file 571. From that, one could make a 
document of what an XMIT file looks like. From that, code could be written.

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John

I know you always like a challange, but wouldnt it be a lot easier just to use the record layouts as 
described in the TSO/E Customisation manual ;-)


Cheers

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Rick Fochtman

Nemo wrote:


On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:49 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:

 

The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a 
   

document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data 
Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-

year logistical and service support
 

The FAA is implementing the Stratus servers, which use Intel Xeon 2.8 MHz 
   

large cache MP processors and support the Microsoft Windows operating 
system, at control centers in Atlanta and Salt Lake City.



The problem seems to me to be that they are using Xeon processors operating 
in the 2.8 MHz (megahertz) speed range instead of their normal 2.8 GHz 
(gigahertz) speed.  (Or else the article got it wrong -- but that can't be since 
those are professional journalists.) 

Seriously UNDERclocked processors?  

 


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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Schumacher, Otto
There are products like CA-date and others that set the date for certain 
jobs/users. These were used for Y2K but are applicable for application year-end 
testing. 

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 Subject: Change system date
 
 Hi there,
 
 We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 
 
 Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 
 
 We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, 
 for exemple, 2010.
 
 Thanks in advanced. 
 
 Regards,
 Raquel Calvo.  

You can do this in z/VSE. But there isn't such a thing in z/OS. During Y2K, 
there were products which could do this. I don't know if they are still 
available.

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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread John Hamman
Compuware has a product called Xpediter/Xchange that allows you to run jobs 
with a date either in the future or in the past.

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Subject: Change system date

Hi there,

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for 
exemple, 2010. 

Thanks in advanced. 

Regards,
Raquel Calvo.  

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Re: XMITMGR for 64 Bit Windows?

2009-11-19 Thread McKown, John
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snip
 
 John
 
 I know you always like a challange, but wouldnt it be a lot 
 easier just to use the record layouts as 
 described in the TSO/E Customisation manual ;-)
 
 Cheers
 
 Roy
 

Ah! Spoil sport! grin I've never looked in that manual. The difficult part 
would be that a PO dataset is IEBCOPY unloaded. Is that documented there too?

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Re: WPS vs SAS WPS on zLinux

2009-11-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
Please, not again. haven't we many times hashed over why Java is
not in practice interpreted.
For most things, its performance is not that far from C.   When
Java is slow, its almost always due to poor design (and
programmers).   Have you looked at the machine code generated by the
Java JVM?  Its great stuff, and automatically recompiles hot method
stacks with fancy inlining, loop unwinding, etc as your program runs.
  Assembler programs are faster because assembler programmers are
generally better, and they don't haphazardly pull in huge frameworks
into their code without understanding the performance implications.
Not so for your average Java programmer :-)

I can't speak for Carolina, but IMO the general design of compiling
SAS code into Java byte codes (which are dynamically compiled into
machine code) is not inherently flawed.  This has been proven to be
successful (and performant) over and over again for many languages
that compile to Java byte codes.

One would have to benchmark specific workloads with this technology to
see how well it performs.   It could suck, but it could also perform
well.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Pommier, Rex R.
rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote:
 So is this Carolina product actually an interpretation of an interpreted
 language?  Do the lights in the data center dim when you merely mention
 the name?  :-)

 Rex

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 On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:49:05 -0600, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

SAS is a great product with great history; its only natural (and good)
for there to be competition.
Here's another:  http://www.dullesopen.com/products/features


 Great.  Convert it from one CPU hog to another.  :-)

 I wonder which uses more CPU resources (not taking zAAP savings into
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Re: Change system date

2009-11-19 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Raquel, 



We bought TicToc from ISOGON for Y2K testing and kept it.  It was bought by IBM 
several years ago and renamed to IBM Application Time Facility for z/OS.  We 
use it often.  It sets a future or past virtual date for the application to 
test with and can be used with batch or online applications. The applications 
folks really like it.  I just checked the product catalog on ShopzSeries.  It 
is still available. 



HTH, 



Linda Mooney 


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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:52:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Change system date 

Hi there, 

We are doing some tests with date change in our systems. 

Has anyone tried, through JCL, etc., to change the system date? 

We would cheat the system to indicate it that we are in other year, for 
exemple, 2010. 

Thanks in advanced. 

Regards, 
Raquel Calvo.   

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Re: Reentrant Programs and Protected Storage

2009-11-19 Thread Cartier, Arthur J
WWwsswWW

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I grew up believing that if a program is link edited as reentrant AND
it is loaded from an authorized library, it gets loaded into 
protected storage.  That is what the manual says, too.  However, that 
is not what appears to be happening.

We are on z/OS 1.10.  There is a non-reentrant program which, when 
executed via JCL from an authorized library, fails with a S0C4.  When 
the failing program is physically copied to another library and 
executed from there, it runs correctly.  This is entirely repeatable.

Did you browse the load library directory and verify the program is not linked 
as RENT? Based on what you've written, it sound like the system is treating 
the program as if it had the RENT attribute.

BTW, One reference to how laoder handles RENT is in MVS Program 
Management: User's Guide and Reference:

quote
RENT  
The module is reenterable. It can be executed by more than one task at
a time. A task can begin executing it before a previous task has  
completed execution. A reenterable module is ordinarily expected not  
to modify its own code. In some cases, MVS protects the reentrant 
module's virtual storage so that it cannot be modified except by a
program running in key 0. These cases include programs which the  
system treats as having been loaded from an authorized library, and   
also programs running under UNIX unless a debugging environment has   
been specified.   
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Re: is my job in input queue?

2009-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
of818677b6.177ae6fb-on85257562.00459d25-85257562.0045c...@uscmail.uscourts.gov,
on 02/19/2009
   at 07:42 AM, John Kelly john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov said:

You could always use the JES2 SSI (subsystem interface), if allowed.

The interface is not specific to JES2. There are several interfaces that
you can use; I don't recommend the old TSO interface for STATUS, but it
might be the easiest if you are authorized.
 
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Re: Reentrant Programs and Protected Storage -- Resolution/Post Mortem

2009-11-19 Thread David Shein
This problem has been solved.  In fulfillment of a promise, here is 
as much of the explanation as I am permitted to share.


As many suspected, this was indeed a SUE (Stupid User Error).

The program being directly executed, i.e., via JCL, was not itself 
failing.  The S0C4 was occurring in IBM code, and was happening 
because of a dynamically loaded subroutine.  It was the subroutine 
that was faulty.


The error occurred because the bad subroutine was where it shouldn't 
have been.  That, in turn, occurred because a developer (a) put it 
into a library where it did not belong in the first place, and (b) 
failed to clean up his garbage when his project ended several months 
ago.  When the bogus module was deleted, the problem went away with it.


In summary, this was an instance of Murphy taking full advantage when 
someone did not follow correct procedure, and then did not clean up 
after himself.  We have drawn several instructive lessons from the 
experience, none of which I intend to dwell on here.


Thanks to everyone who took an interest and offered constructive suggestions.

David

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Re: XMITMGR for 64 Bit Windows?

2009-11-19 Thread Roy Hewitt

McKown, John wrote:

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snip

John

I know you always like a challange, but wouldnt it be a lot 
easier just to use the record layouts as 
described in the TSO/E Customisation manual ;-)


Cheers

Roy



Ah! Spoil sport! grin I've never looked in that manual. The difficult part 
would be that a PO dataset is IEBCOPY unloaded. Is that documented there too?

Yes, I realised I should have mentioned the unloaded IEBCOPY format in the ohnosecond before I hit 
send!  But yes it is documented in the Utilities manual. It's an involved process as the unloaded 
format is device dependant, (presumably based on the temporary dataset that was used to unload it) 
and for PDSE it uses a virtual device format with something like 256 tracks/cyl.. (which is why PDSE 
don't work with XmitManager..) There are some bits of rexx around that do the XMIT decoding and I've 
used them to help extract from a corrupt xmit file and then manually unpacked the unloaded 
IEBCOPY... messy!


Cheers

Roy

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip-


Looks like a router failure

http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?s=FAAnewsalert



4 hours to fix a router?  Good Grief.
 


-unsnip---
That's why the squatty boxen have Administrators, rather than 
Programmers or Systems Programmers. Can we speak of IQ levels here? 
Or maybe training and experience ??


Rick

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ICSF

2009-11-19 Thread Meganen Naidoo
Hi all, 
We want to generate a hash key for a dataset but not encrypt the data 
using ICSF on z/OS 1.7. 
Can someone clarify that an entire file (and not just a field, or record 
within a file) can be processed by the routines CSNBOWH and CSNBOWH1.
The Cryptographic Services ICSF Application Programmer's Guide is very 
vague regarding this. 

Kind Regards,
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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread Clark Morris
On 19 Nov 2009 14:26:55 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

-snip-

 Looks like a router failure

 http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?s=FAAnewsalert


4 hours to fix a router?  Good Grief.
  

-unsnip---
That's why the squatty boxen have Administrators, rather than 
Programmers or Systems Programmers. Can we speak of IQ levels here? 
Or maybe training and experience ??

Rick

Would a router used with system z be under the control of the system z
staff or a general communications staff?  If the latter, why the
communications staff in a z environment be any more or less responsive
than the staff in other environments?  If I understood the story, the
router that fouled things was in Salt Lake City, not either of the
facilities with servers.  

An aside, is Stratus still either owned or marketed by IBM?  Does it
use a special version of Windows designed for fall over and take over?

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Need info on LE CEECAA (Common Anchor Area)

2009-11-19 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Hello Everyone,

 

I am looking into the fields found in LE's Common Anchor Area (CEECAA).

When I assemble the DSECT I get fields mapped from x'000' to x'38F'.

This matches the Language Environment Debugging Guide.

 

However, when I run the IPCS LEDATA ALL processor, it maps data out to
a little past offset x'700'.

 

Anyone have any idea where I might find the definitions of these extra
fields?

 

Thanks,

Chuck

 

Charles (Chuck) Hardee

CA, Inc
Software Engineer, CA-IDMS 
Tel: +1 952 838-1039
Fax: +1 952 835-3301 
charles.har...@ca.com mailto:charles.har...@ca.com 

 


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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread scott
Patrick Lyon wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:56:25 -0700, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG) 
 dennis.ro...@lmco.com wrote:

   
 Looks like a router failure

 http://gcn.com/articles/2009/11/19/faa-software-hackers-delays.aspx?
 
 s=FAAnewsalert
   

 4 hours to fix a router?  Good Grief.
  And no backup?  Sounds like a single point of failure to me.  Makes
one wonder what other single points of failure there are.

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Re: Check out Computer glitch to cause flight delays across U.S. - Mar ketWatch

2009-11-19 Thread scott
Hal Merritt wrote:
 The news item mentioned a 'NADIN' failure. A chain of Googles lead to a 
 document dated March, 2005: FAA modernizing National Airspace Data 
 Interchange Network with Stratus ftServer systems; Stratus to provide 10-year 
 logistical and service support

 The FAA is implementing the Stratus servers, which use Intel Xeon 2.8 MHz 
 large cache MP processors and support the Microsoft Windows operating system, 
 at control centers in Atlanta and Salt Lake City.

 Uninterrupted availability of the NADIN 1 is important to all aspects of the 
 aviation industry, as well as the nation's economy and, increasingly, as a 
 tool to help protect national security. After thorough technology and product 
 evaluations, Stratus was chosen as best able to provide an open platform with 
 99.999 percent uptime reliability - which is mandatory for running an 
 application as important as NADIN 1 - together with the required caliber of 
 maintenance, logistical support, and long service life.

 http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_March_14/ai_n12936121/

 Silly me: I had thought that Windows and 99.999 uptime was an oxymoron. 
   
  Windows running on an open platform?  Now there is an oxymoron.  Or
morons depending on Windows and an uptime of 99.999.

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Re: XMITMGR for 64 Bit Windows?

2009-11-19 Thread Brian Westerman
As long as you copy it to the Program Files (X86) directory, it works
fine.  You don't need to run it any special way.

When you first click on a .XMI file, you will have to navigate to that
directory (make sure you check always to use that program for that type
file) and from then on it will be fine.  You can also just use any filetype
editor to set the connection between .xmi and .xmit to that program, but in
any case, it will function fine.

Your only problem might be that you have to install it on a XP or lower
machine first to get the files to copy.  

I'm not sure if the source is still available to re-write it or not.  It
might be cool to give it a shot.  

Brian

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Re: Newsgroup now frozen. Closing by 12/31/2009

2009-11-19 Thread Don Poitras
Alexei,
  I don't see any topics comparable to ibm.software.assemblr or any of
the many other mainframe groups. Are they hidden, or is there a plan to
add more fora?


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Re: compiling Java question - z/OS jar(s) on non-z/OS?

2009-11-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
I don't speak for IBM, but IBM is making it *very* easy to create Java to
run on z/OS -- including Java which uses z/OS-only methods. The jar files
are available, as Kirk noted, at no additional charge. You can compile on
or off your mainframe -- and, at least on your mainframe, almost certainly
at zero real cost.

If someone wants to pretend it's hard, I suppose that's their right. :-)

Whether it's z/OS, or Microsoft Office, or Oracle Database, or Software
AG's Adabas, or any other piece of licensed software, just follow the
rules, that's all. If you don't know what the rules are, ask. Just don't
assume.

That is all. Simple.

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SMF Record Exits

2009-11-19 Thread John P. Baker
I am writing an SMF Record Exit to intercept SMF Record Type 80 (Security)
records for additional processing.

 

Is IEFU83 sufficient, or do I also need IEFU84 and/or IEFU85?

 

John P. Baker


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Re: MQ set trigger and CICS

2009-11-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
Jantje writes:
It does not take much duration to have the issue occur. Just
the time to bounce a CICS (even if it takes only a minute) can
be enough. Been there...

Yes, agreed. It depends on the incoming message rate, the size of the
incoming messages, and how far the queue can back up. Those factors are
situational.

But what I'm wondering is whether there's been any consideration of
eliminating (or at least reducing) CICS service outages when bouncing any
particular CICS region(s). There are certainly ways (plural, probably) to
run CICS in higher availability fashion.

I suppose one alternative is to stop incoming MQ messages first, let CICS
drain the remaining messages in the queue, bounce CICS, then tell MQ to
resume accepting incoming messages. But then you've just converted your
CICS outage into an MQ outage, and thus converted a (somewhat delayed)
processing interruption into an immediate service interruption. In other
words, that sounds to me like going backwards. :-) It's also apparently
unacceptable, because the original question is premised on the problems
with having the queue fill up and stop accepting messages.

So I think the real solution here is beefing up CICS's robustness in at
least one way, unless I'm missing something in the original question. It
sounds like MQ is doing exactly what it's supposed to do (and to its
configured limit), but the thing that's draining the queue is currently
suffering from an interruption that's too long. Hence, how about we focus
on shortening (or eliminating) the interruption in the draining? I don't
really see any other way -- again, unless I'm just totally missing the true
nature of the original question.

Or, I guess you could (if possible) get a bigger bucket, i.e. figure
out a way to enlarge the queue, to hold enough messages to survive the
drainer's outage.

Bigger queue, more timely/reliable draining, or some combination: isn't
that the full solution choice set here?

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Re: Hardware withdrawal: IBM System z9

2009-11-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
Shmuel Metz asks:
Is there a direct upgrade from, e.g., z890 to z10?

Yes. And that particular upgrade is *not* being withdrawn effective June
30, 2010. There is currently no withdrawal date for that upgrade.

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Re: ICSF

2009-11-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
It's certainly possible; GIMZIP and SMP/E use this to generate
and verify checksums of their pax.Z files.

the interface is described in:

   Linkname: 2.3.6.2 z/OS V1R10.0 ICSF Application Programmer's Guide
URL: 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/csfb4z90/2.3.6.2

  2.3.6.2 Parameters

I believe it requires multiple calls to CSNBOWH.  Since CSHBOWH is
stateless, it uses the caller-supplied chaining_vector field to
pass data from call to call.

-- gil

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Re: How do __you__ read non-DB non-XML files in Java?

2009-11-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
Come on, guys. You can keep complaining if you want, but let's complain
about the real stuff, OK? Let me summarize:

1. IBM charges zero for sub-peak monthly 4HRA CPU usage. z/OS JAVAC
tirekicking has *got* to be exactly the sort of work that's sub-peak. (And
if it isn't, you're really doing something wrong.) Enjoy.

2. IBM charges zero to download and use (yes, on your PC) the JZOS Toolkit,
and you can compile as much as you want there. Enjoy.

3. IBM donated all of the original Eclipse developer toolset to the open
source community and continues to slave away (at great payroll expense) on
improving it. At the JZOS Web site, Kirk has carefully documented how to
connect free Eclipse to your z/OS machine via Ant and FTP, again at zero
cost. (Thank you, Kirk.) Enjoy.

4. Every CICS TS V3 or higher and IMS TM V9 or higher customer has access
to one no charge Rational Developer for System z license, so you can use
the full-blown professional-grade workbench, too, at no charge -- as long
as you personally are the first one to grab the brass ring. (Though if you
want full support beyond specific use cases with CICS TS or IMS TM, IBM
will require a support charge.) This RDz package also includes the entire
Rational Application Developer or Rational Business Developer tool, which
we charge everyone else in the world for *except* our CICS and IMS
customers (for their first license). Enjoy.

5. If you don't have a z/OS machine handy, the *most* you'll pay for your
own (virtual) z/OS machine for application development purposes is $350 per
month, as many or as few months as you want. (Assuming you're at least
somewhat reasonable with CPU and disk resource consumption, and assuming
you fit the rather expansive qualification criteria.) If you happen to be
affiliated with a university or even high school, it's probably no charge
rather than $350. Enjoy.

6. There's still the PartnerWorld program (zPDT or System z hardware) if
for some reason you want your own z/OS machine in your own building for
for-market software development, and at low price.

7. If you work for a top secret government agency (or whatever), and the
above options still aren't good enough and/or you don't qualify, ring your
friendly IBM representative and use the magic words System z Solution
Edition for Application Development, please. If you qualify (which
probably isn't too hard), IBM will happily sell you a full z/OS application
development kit, with all kinds of goodies, for a total 3, 4, or 5 year
price (not cost -- price!) that is distributed UNIX-competitive. Hardware,
hardware maintenance, software, and standard software support -- the full
kit, bottom line competitively priced.

Now, let me just share with you one data point here that might put this all
into perspective. If you want to create a video game for the Sony
PlayStation, you will need to contact Sony Computer Entertainment, execute
a rather restrictive contract, and pay $10,250 (in North America), upfront,
for your developer kit just to get your foot in the door. You'll then have
to pay steep royalties on all the games you sell, and there is no guarantee
that Sony will electronically authorize your game to run on their (!)
PlayStation. (They have full veto authority.) For a video game!

Or let's consider Apple. If you want to develop an application for the
iPhone/iPod touch, you'll need to get a Macintosh and (preferably) an
iPhone or iPod touch. That's not too terribly expensive, but it's an
expense. Then you must submit your application to Apple for approval,
because there's only one way to distribute your application: through the
iTunes Store. Apple can (and does) refuse applications for any reason,
often at a very leisurly pace, and their decision is final. If Apple
refuses your application, you can still distribute it -- but only the tiny
minority of iPhone/iPod touch owners who have hacked their devices can run
it. And you're going to be hard pressed to collect any revenues from that
application. If Apple does accept your application into the iTunes Store,
Apple collects a 30% royalty right off the top -- and again, you have no
choice in that.

Now, I don't mean to pick on Sony and Apple specifically, but let's look at
this rationally. IBM has been working mighty hard to lower the development
hurdles (and costs) for z/OS, and -- as you can see -- there's been much
progress on that front. Could more be done? Perhaps, but how about we
concentrate on the real remaining issues and not try to invent unreal
problems, OK?

Thanks for putting up with my venting. :-)

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Re: Reentrant Programs and Protected Storage

2009-11-19 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
WWwsswWW

And this means what?

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