What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread ibmnew
Hi all 

 We defined a VSAM file and a GDG base using a user id DBJMP05.

The prefix of DBJMP05 is managed by SMS 

SMS routing

SC :
 FILTLIST TSOUSERS   INCLUDE(DBJMP*) 

WHEN HLQ = TSOUSERS  
 SET STORCLAS = 'SCSTAND'   
SG:

FILTLIST TSOUSERS   INCLUDE(DBJMP*) 

WHEN(HLQ= TSOUSERS) SET STORGRP = 'SGTSO'   

Below is the JCL and the output of the JCL.
 
1. Define a VSAM : DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1
 
   DEFINE CLUSTER( - 
 CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096) -   
 TRACKS(50) -  
 NAME(DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1) - 
 INDEXED - 
 RECORDSIZE(4086,32767) -  
 BUFFERSPACE(81920) -  
 REUSE -   
 SHAREOPTIONS(2) - 
 SPANNED - 
 SPEED ) 


The return code is Zero

2.Define a base of GDG: DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST


DEFINE GDG (NAME(DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST) - 
LIMIT(03)  - 
NOEMPTY- 
SCRATCH ) 

The return is 12
   
ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
  CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1) 
  INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY 
  FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G) 
  ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )

My question :

 I want to know the reasons:


 1. Why is it success when I define a vsam or PDS using prefix DBJMP05?

 2.Why isnot it success when I define a base of GDG using prefix DBJMP05?

 3.What is the difference  of them in the catalog 


Any suggestion would be helpful!

Thanks a lot!

Jason Cai






  

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Re: strange RSH behaviour

2011-03-03 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Are you calling it from TSO or from a UNIX shell?

If the latter, are you calling /bin/rsh or /bin/orsh?

The former should be an external link to RSH, the latter
a symbolic link to /usr/lpp/tcpip/bin/orsh, which in turn
should have the sticky bit set so that it points to ORSH
in the MVS program search order.

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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
  CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1) 
  INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY 
  FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G) 
  ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )

Are you using multilevel alias? If so, are DBJMP05.BDZ3
and DBJMP05.FAS being directed to different catalogs?
If so, I'g guess that user DBJMP05 is allowed to write
to one catalgo but not to the other.

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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
 DEFINE GDG (NAME(DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST) - 
LIMIT(03)  - 
NOEMPTY- 
SCRATCH ) 

 The return is 12
   
 ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
   CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1) 
   INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY 
   FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G) 
   ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )
 
  1. Why is it success when I define a vsam or PDS using prefix DBJMP05?
 
  2.Why isnot it success when I define a base of GDG using prefix DBJMP05?
 
  3.What is the difference  of them in the catalog



Jason,

I do not think this is an ACS routine issue.

This looks more like a security profile issue.  The ICH408I is indicating
that the DBJMP05 user does not have access to the CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO.
What is the access to this catalog for this ID?


What catalog ( Report results of a LISTC ENT(DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1) ALL ) does
it live in?

Does DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1 catalog to the same catalog as the GDG?  How is the
CATALOG set up?  Is is single level or multiple level aliases?  Is the
failure on the same LPAR or Different LPARs?

What security product are you using (RACF?)  What level of z/OS?

Lizette

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Re: DFDSS copy

2011-03-03 Thread Matan Cohen
DB2 subsystems were done in time of the copy .

Perhaps the same volumes were selected in the copy operation ? Are you
using
SMS how do the ACS routines look like
I know I might miss somthing  - I forget to put the Volume in disable to
ensure this won't happen.
Thanks I believe this is the reason I'll try perform the copy again .

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Dick de Groot derkfr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Perhaps the same volumes were selected in the copy operation ? Are you
 using
 SMS how do the ACS routines look like

 2011/3/2 Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com

  Hi,
 
  for some reason I needed to empty a DASD disk from its content (All files
  are DB2 VSAMS) .
  i noticed there is a multivolume DSNs so i added the 'SPHERE' 
  'SELECTMULTI' .
 
  so after backing up the disk i run this JCL :
  //ADB2CPY JOB ,,CLASS=A,REGION=0M,MSGCLASS=X,
  //MSGLEVEL=(1,1)
  //BFFDBB29  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
  //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=*
  //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
  //DASDDD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=OLDDISK,DISP=SHR
  //OUTDSK  DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=NEWDISK,DISP=SHR
  //SYSINDD *
   COPY DATASET( -
   INCLUDE(  DBP.**, -
  DBT.**,-
DB29.**,  -
   ))-
   LOGINDDNAME(DASD)-
   OUTDDNAM(OUTDSK) -
   SPHERE-
   SELECTMULTI(ANY)  -
   CAT -
   DELETE
   /*
 
  for some reason half of the Files (not necessarliy multivolume) were not
  copied  the job ended with RC 0 it seems DFDSS didn't select them  ,
   from the literature:
  For VSAM data sets, the volume list is affected by the use of the
  SPHERE keyword as follows:
  v Specify SPHERE and you only need to list any part of the base
  cluster in the volume list.
 
  should I run this job again but without : 'SPHERE','SELECTMULTI' ?
  is there somthing I forgetten ?
 
  
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Re: DFDSS copy

2011-03-03 Thread chen lucky
Perhaps the same volumes were selected in the copy operation ? Are you
using SMS how do the ACS routines look like

Good point it is!! Waiting for good news.

2011/3/3 Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com

 DB2 subsystems were done in time of the copy .

 Perhaps the same volumes were selected in the copy operation ? Are you
 using
 SMS how do the ACS routines look like
 I know I might miss somthing  - I forget to put the Volume in disable to
 ensure this won't happen.
 Thanks I believe this is the reason I'll try perform the copy again .

 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Dick de Groot derkfr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Perhaps the same volumes were selected in the copy operation ? Are you
  using
  SMS how do the ACS routines look like
 
  2011/3/2 Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com
 
   Hi,
  
   for some reason I needed to empty a DASD disk from its content (All
 files
   are DB2 VSAMS) .
   i noticed there is a multivolume DSNs so i added the 'SPHERE' 
   'SELECTMULTI' .
  
   so after backing up the disk i run this JCL :
   //ADB2CPY JOB ,,CLASS=A,REGION=0M,MSGCLASS=X,
   //MSGLEVEL=(1,1)
   //BFFDBB29  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
   //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=*
   //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
   //DASDDD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=OLDDISK,DISP=SHR
   //OUTDSK  DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=NEWDISK,DISP=SHR
   //SYSINDD *
COPY DATASET( -
INCLUDE(  DBP.**, -
   DBT.**,-
 DB29.**,  -
))-
LOGINDDNAME(DASD)-
OUTDDNAM(OUTDSK) -
SPHERE-
SELECTMULTI(ANY)  -
CAT -
DELETE
/*
  
   for some reason half of the Files (not necessarliy multivolume) were
 not
   copied  the job ended with RC 0 it seems DFDSS didn't select them  ,
from the literature:
   For VSAM data sets, the volume list is affected by the use of the
   SPHERE keyword as follows:
   v Specify SPHERE and you only need to list any part of the base
   cluster in the volume list.
  
   should I run this job again but without : 'SPHERE','SELECTMULTI' ?
   is there somthing I forgetten ?
  
   
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Re: SMP/E CSI record layout

2011-03-03 Thread Ravi Gaur
Why you looking for the record layout of Target CSI ?  Just bit curious ..

anyway other question I have is in what situation you see hex 070300 before 
zone name since I did print of records for target zone and they all appear 
to have 010300 
...thanks,Ravi

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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread ibmnew
Hi all 

Our shop is RACF.

It is single level alias 

DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1 catalog to the same catalog as the GDG.


Thanks a lot!

Jason Cai
 
 DEFINE GDG (NAME(DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST) - 
LIMIT(03)  - 
NOEMPTY- 
SCRATCH ) 

 The return is 12
   
 ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
   CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1) 
   INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY 
   FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G) 
   ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )
 
  1. Why is it success when I define a vsam or PDS using prefix DBJMP05?
 
  2.Why isnot it success when I define a base of GDG using prefix DBJMP05?
 
  3.What is the difference  of them in the catalog

Jason,
I do not think this is an ACS routine issue.
This looks more like a security profile issue.  The ICH408I is indicating
that the DBJMP05 user does not have access to the CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO.
What is the access to this catalog for this ID?
What catalog ( Report results of a LISTC ENT(DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1) ALL ) does
it live in?
Does DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1 catalog to the same catalog as the GDG?  How is the
CATALOG set up?  Is is single level or multiple level aliases?  Is the
failure on the same LPAR or Different LPARs?
What security product are you using (RACF?)  What level of z/OS?
Lizette
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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread ibmnew
Our shop is z/OS 1.11.  the image is a single image.


Thanks a lot!


Hi all 
Our shop is RACF.
It is single level alias 
DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1 catalog to the same catalog as the GDG.
Thanks a lot!
Jason Cai

 DEFINE GDG (NAME(DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST) - 
LIMIT(03)  - 
NOEMPTY- 
SCRATCH ) 

 The return is 12
   
 ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
   CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1) 
   INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY 
   FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G) 
   ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )
 
  1. Why is it success when I define a vsam or PDS using prefix DBJMP05?
 
  2.Why isnot it success when I define a base of GDG using prefix DBJMP05?
 
  3.What is the difference  of them in the catalog

Jason,
I do not think this is an ACS routine issue.
This looks more like a security profile issue.  The ICH408I is indicating
that the DBJMP05 user does not have access to the CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO.
What is the access to this catalog for this ID?
What catalog ( Report results of a LISTC ENT(DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1) ALL ) does
it live in?
Does DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1 catalog to the same catalog as the GDG?  How is the
CATALOG set up?  Is is single level or multiple level aliases?  Is the
failure on the same LPAR or Different LPARs?
What security product are you using (RACF?)  What level of z/OS?
Lizette
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Re: Question about wiping a DS8100

2011-03-03 Thread Dick de Groot
Log on as CE user and do a de-install of the box then all tables are
cleared

2011/2/26 Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca

 Does anyone have any thoughts on the cache?  Do I need to worry about
 clearing that?

 No.

 If so, does anyone have any ideas on how to do that?

 Just turn it (the C/U) off.

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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
 Our shop is RACF.
 It is single level alias
 Our shop is z/OS 1.11.  the image is a single image.

 DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1 catalog to the same catalog as the GDG.
 Thanks a lot!
 Jason Cai
 
  DEFINE GDG (NAME(DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST) -
 LIMIT(03)  -
 NOEMPTY-
 SCRATCH )
 
  The return is 12
 
  ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1)
INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G)
ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )
 
   1. Why is it success when I define a vsam or PDS using prefix DBJMP05?
 
   2.Why isnot it success when I define a base of GDG using prefix
DBJMP05?
 
   3.What is the difference  of them in the catalog
 
 

Jason,


So what RACF profiles do you have for all levels of these datasets?

Start by looking at DBJMP05
The DBJMP05.BDZ3
Then DBJMP05.FAS
And so on.

See if the LD command for RACF can show what profile covers each dataset
name.  I sometimes use the RACF ISPF panels or if you have Tivoli, have your
Tivoli administrator look with you.

Lizette

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Re: SMP/E CSI record layout

2011-03-03 Thread Jürgen Kehr

Hello Ravi,

you're absolutely right, until yesterday I've only seen 010300 but then 
I got a CSI from another installation, where 070300 occurs, what leads 
to my question.


BTW: the reason why I'm looking into this data is fairly hard to explain 
and a much longer story, perhaps I'll find the time to tell it later ...



Am 03.03.2011 11:21, schrieb Ravi Gaur:

Why you looking for the record layout of Target CSI ?  Just bit curious ..

anyway other question I have is in what situation you see hex 070300 before
zone name since I did print of records for target zone and they all appear
to have 010300
...thanks,Ravi

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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread ibmnew
Lizette

 There are only RACF profiles DBJMP05.**  for  DBJMP05.BDZ3 and  DBJMP05.FAS.

Thanks a lot!

Jason Cai

 Our shop is RACF.
 It is single level alias
 Our shop is z/OS 1.11.  the image is a single image.

 DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1 catalog to the same catalog as the GDG.
 Thanks a lot!
 Jason Cai
 
  DEFINE GDG (NAME(DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST) -
 LIMIT(03)  -
 NOEMPTY-
 SCRATCH )
 
  The return is 12
 
  ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1)
INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G)
ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )
 
   1. Why is it success when I define a vsam or PDS using prefix DBJMP05?
 
   2.Why isnot it success when I define a base of GDG using prefix
DBJMP05?
 
   3.What is the difference  of them in the catalog
 
 
Jason,
So what RACF profiles do you have for all levels of these datasets?
Start by looking at DBJMP05
The DBJMP05.BDZ3
Then DBJMP05.FAS
And so on.
See if the LD command for RACF can show what profile covers each dataset
name.  I sometimes use the RACF ISPF panels or if you have Tivoli, have your
Tivoli administrator look with you.
Lizette
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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
There are only RACF profiles DBJMP05.**  for  DBJMP05.BDZ3 and
DBJMP05.FAS.

This is not of interest to the problem. The access was denied when
accessing the catalog (see your ICH408I). 

The user is not permitted UPDATE to data set CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO,
at least in the GDG case. And I can't imagine why the update should
succeed when defining the VSAM data set *when* it will be cataloged
in the same catalog.

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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Can you try to define a GDG named

DBJMP05.BDZ3.GDG

and can you try to define a VSAM data set named

DBJMP05.FAS.VSAM

What happens?
 
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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 03/03/2011 02:13 AM, ibmnew wrote:
 Hi all
 
   We defined a VSAM file and a GDG base using a user id DBJMP05.
 The prefix of DBJMP05 is managed by SMS
 SMS routing
 SC :
   FILTLIST TSOUSERS   INCLUDE(DBJMP*)
 
 WHENHLQ =TSOUSERS
   SETSTORCLAS = 'SCSTAND'
 SG:
 FILTLIST TSOUSERS   INCLUDE(DBJMP*)
 
 WHEN(HLQ=TSOUSERS) SETSTORGRP = 'SGTSO'
 
 Below is the JCL and the output of the JCL.
 1. Define a VSAM : DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1
 DEFINE CLUSTER( -
   CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096) -
   TRACKS(50) -
   NAME(DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1) -
   INDEXED -
   RECORDSIZE(4086,32767) -
   BUFFERSPACE(81920) -
   REUSE -
   SHAREOPTIONS(2) -
   SPANNED -
   SPEED )
 
 The return code is Zero
 
 2.Define a base of GDG: DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST
 DEFINE GDG (NAME(DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST) -
  LIMIT(03)  -
  NOEMPTY-
  SCRATCH )
 The return is 12
 
 ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1)
INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G)
ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )
 
 My question :
 
   I want to know the reasons:
   1. Why is it success when I define a vsam or PDS using prefix DBJMP05?
   2.Why isnot it success when I define a base of GDG using prefix DBJMP05?
   3.What is the difference  of them in the catalog
 
 Any suggestion would be helpful!
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
 Jason Cai
 
...

The answer is really quite simple, although perhaps counter-intuitive.
Only data sets are SMS controlled, thus the VSAM file is an SMS data
set, the GDG base is not.

 All SMS data sets must be cataloged in their alias-directed catalog;
therefore, except for the special case of the master catalog, z/OS
allows them to be cataloged in any user catalog to which they are
directed by defined alias definitions, bypassing any RACF access checks
on USERCAT catalog access in order to guarantee that cataloging can
occur and avoid unnecessary problems .  Master catalog access still
requires RACF access, since unless a mistake has been made, access to
any dataset HLQs that would map to master cat should be restricted to
SysProgs who should have access to master cat.

Since the GDG base is not an SMS dataset, RACF access checks on catalogs
are not bypassed and the user must have RACF UPDATE access to the
catalog.  Altering or creating catalog entries in a USERCAT, other than
those changes implied by the creation/deletion of SMS datasets, requires
UPDATE access to the catalog.

It used to be the case that RACF UPDATE access to all catalogs was
always required to make catalog changes. At somewhere along the line
this SMS exception was documented as an enhancement with MVS release
migration docs.
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SMF data question - an opinion poll, of sorts

2011-03-03 Thread McKown, John
This is a type of opinion poll question. In general, it could be reduced to: 
What do you think of XML encoded data?. In particular, the nice RACF people 
have a program `which unloads their SMF audit data in XML format as an option. 
What is nice about it is that the data is printable and so easily downloaded to 
my Linux system. XML formatting is nice because it easier to read using Java 
and XSLT processor to do queries and reformatting. Which makes it easier for me 
to load into a database (PostgreSQL based in my case). I would find it very 
helpful to me if more SMF records could be made available in XML character 
format so that I could easily process it on Linux. So I'm wondering what others 
think of this? Does anybody else like XML? Or am I, once again, in the 
minority? Yes, I could write an HLASM program myself to do this. Perhaps by 
somehow reading ADATA output to generate a program to do it.


John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP
4)
 
 There are only RACF profiles DBJMP05.**  for  DBJMP05.BDZ3 and
 DBJMP05.FAS.
 
 This is not of interest to the problem. The access was denied when
 accessing the catalog (see your ICH408I).
 
 The user is not permitted UPDATE to data set CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO,
 at least in the GDG case. And I can't imagine why the update should
 succeed when defining the VSAM data set *when* it will be cataloged
 in the same catalog.

This problem has the appearance of multi-level catalog aliases being
used, and the VSAM dataset's second qualifier points it to a catalog to
which the user has UPDATE permission; while the GDG's second qualifier
either is not defined in a multi-level alias, or is pointed to a
different catalog to which the user does NOT have UPDATE permission.

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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
It used to be the case that RACF UPDATE access to all catalogs was
always required to make catalog changes. At somewhere along the line
this SMS exception was documented as an enhancement with MVS release
migration docs.

I missed this enhancement. Thanks for the update.

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Re: Removing DFSMShsm ML1

2011-03-03 Thread Andy Gilman
Hi Jonathan,

There are both backup VTOC-copy data sets and dump VTOC-copy data sets 
which get put on ML1 volumes. For example:

DFHSM.VTOC.Tssmmhh.Vvolser.Dyyddd and
DFHSM.DUMPVTOC.Tssmmhh.Vvolser.Dyyddd.

So, HSM incremental backups as well as HSM full volume dumps create 
datasets which go to ML1 volumes. Also, keep in mind that if you are doing 
extent reduction (SETSYS MAXEXTENTS(n)), you will need at least one ML1 
volume for that process. Finally, as I understand it, the volume-level Fast 
Replication function of HSM also uses ML1.

Regards,
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Re: SMF data question - an opinion poll, of sorts

2011-03-03 Thread Kirk Wolf
John,

IMO, the first problem to solve would be to create a good model/schema
description for SMF records - the DSECTS are really insufficient
(actual data types and structure can only be gleaned from the comments
or other documentation)

If you had an XML document that *described* each SMF record that
covered the SMF datatypes, triplets, etc, etc, then you could use
this XML schema to generate code that would translate from the
existing SMF records to whatever - XML, JSON, Java bean classes,
DFSORT symbols, report writers, etc, etc.

A great community (cbttabpe?) project would be to create an XML
meta-model (a schema) for modeling SMF records, and then individuals
and vendors could publish models for their SMF records.   Think of the
great tools that could be easily written to process SMF data if these
models were available

Regards,
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:19 AM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
 This is a type of opinion poll question. In general, it could be reduced 
 to: What do you think of XML encoded data?. In particular, the nice RACF 
 people have a program `which unloads their SMF audit data in XML format as an 
 option. What is nice about it is that the data is printable and so easily 
 downloaded to my Linux system. XML formatting is nice because it easier to 
 read using Java and XSLT processor to do queries and reformatting. Which 
 makes it easier for me to load into a database (PostgreSQL based in my case). 
 I would find it very helpful to me if more SMF records could be made 
 available in XML character format so that I could easily process it on Linux. 
 So I'm wondering what others think of this? Does anybody else like XML? Or am 
 I, once again, in the minority? Yes, I could write an HLASM program myself to 
 do this. Perhaps by somehow reading ADATA output to generate a program to do 
 it.


 John McKown
 Systems Engineer IV
 IT

 Administrative Services Group

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 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
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Re: SMF data question - an opinion poll, of sorts

2011-03-03 Thread Kirk Wolf
It might be possible to create a tool to help generate XML models for
SMF records:

Input:
-  ADATA files from DSECT(s)
-  control statements that specify:
   - data types (other than what can be determined from the ADATA)
   - triplets and substructures

Output:
- An XML document that describes an SMF record (fields, data types,
substructures, etc)

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:
 John,

 IMO, the first problem to solve would be to create a good model/schema
 description for SMF records - the DSECTS are really insufficient
 (actual data types and structure can only be gleaned from the comments
 or other documentation)

 If you had an XML document that *described* each SMF record that
 covered the SMF datatypes, triplets, etc, etc, then you could use
 this XML schema to generate code that would translate from the
 existing SMF records to whatever - XML, JSON, Java bean classes,
 DFSORT symbols, report writers, etc, etc.

 A great community (cbttabpe?) project would be to create an XML
 meta-model (a schema) for modeling SMF records, and then individuals
 and vendors could publish models for their SMF records.   Think of the
 great tools that could be easily written to process SMF data if these
 models were available

 Regards,
 Kirk Wolf
 Dovetailed Technologies
 http://dovetail.com

 On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:19 AM, McKown, John
 john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
 This is a type of opinion poll question. In general, it could be reduced 
 to: What do you think of XML encoded data?. In particular, the nice RACF 
 people have a program `which unloads their SMF audit data in XML format as 
 an option. What is nice about it is that the data is printable and so easily 
 downloaded to my Linux system. XML formatting is nice because it easier to 
 read using Java and XSLT processor to do queries and reformatting. Which 
 makes it easier for me to load into a database (PostgreSQL based in my 
 case). I would find it very helpful to me if more SMF records could be made 
 available in XML character format so that I could easily process it on 
 Linux. So I'm wondering what others think of this? Does anybody else like 
 XML? Or am I, once again, in the minority? Yes, I could write an HLASM 
 program myself to do this. Perhaps by somehow reading ADATA output to 
 generate a program to do it.


 John McKown
 Systems Engineer IV
 IT

 Administrative Services Group

 HealthMarkets(r)

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Request for Enhancement Requests

2011-03-03 Thread Mark Post
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM and IBM-Main

Once again, I'm looking for customer requirements to enhance our Linux for 
System z product.  If you've ever had any gee I wish SLES would do X type of 
thoughts, please send those to me off-list.  I'm primarily interested in things 
that would be specific to System z, but _anything_ is fair game for this.  If 
anyone is interested, I can send them the collected list (also off-line) once I 
have it.  Please let me know if you would want that information sent back to 
you.  (IYou don't have to send me an RFE of your own to get that, but it sure 
would be nice.)

Thanks,

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Novell Global Technical Support

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ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread Hal Merritt
We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we received the 
following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN CODE = 
000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is 
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently of the 
opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However, CSF on 
LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say that the PKDS 
is not completely initialized until the first key is stowed. Not sure how to do 
that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now my 
workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a bit nervous 
as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be equivalent to a full 
outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried starting 
with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

Thoughts?


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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread Rob Schramm
Hal,

Care to post your csfparm (minus the ckds data set name plz) ... or look for
any SYSPLEX keywords and post them?

Thanks,
Rob Schramm

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Subject: ICSF Troubles

We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we received
the following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN CODE =
000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently of
the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However, CSF
on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say that
the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is stowed. Not
sure how to do that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now my
workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a bit
nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be equivalent to
a full outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

Thoughts?


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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread John P. Baker
Hal,

The reason code of 1780 indicates that a DASD I/O error occurred when
accessing the dataset.

Have you checked EREP for any diagnostic information?

Also, are you running under z/VM?

John P. Baker
Chief Software Architect
HFD Technologies

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Subject: ICSF Troubles

We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we received
the following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN CODE =
000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently of
the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However, CSF
on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say that
the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is stowed. Not
sure how to do that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now my
workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a bit
nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be equivalent to
a full outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

Thoughts?


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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread Staller, Allan
1) Check SYS1.PARMLIB(CSFPRM*). It may be pointing to the wrong place.
2) Check the LRECL of the PKDS. 1.11 changed the LRECL of the PKDS. See 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2M17A/8.2.
6?DT=20090616151803

HTH.

snip

We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we
received the following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN
CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER
AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently
of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However,
CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say
that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is
stowed. Not sure how to do that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now
my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a
bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be
equivalent to a full outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.
/snip

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Re: SMF data question - an opinion poll, of sorts

2011-03-03 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip-
This is a type of opinion poll question. In general, it could be 
reduced to: What do you think of XML encoded data?. In particular, the 
nice RACF people have a program `which unloads their SMF audit data in 
XML format as an option. What is nice about it is that the data is 
printable and so easily downloaded to my Linux system. XML formatting is 
nice because it easier to read using Java and XSLT processor to do 
queries and reformatting. Which makes it easier for me to load into a 
database (PostgreSQL based in my case). I would find it very helpful to 
me if more SMF records could be made available in XML character format 
so that I could easily process it on Linux. So I'm wondering what others 
think of this? Does anybody else like XML? Or am I, once again, in the 
minority? Yes, I could write an HLASM program myself to do this. Perhaps 
by somehow reading ADATA output to generate a program to do it.

--unsnip--
John, I'm afraid it wouldn't make much difference to me, since I use a 
HLL )PL/1) to post-process all my SMF data. If it'll help, I'll try to 
find my PL/1 DECLARE statements for the SMF records I process.


Rick

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Converting a DSECT to a SAS INPUT statement?

2011-03-03 Thread Jim Blalock

Hi folks, I've been gone for a while but now I'm back ...

Anyway, I seem to dimly remember there was a tool to eat a DSECT or 
mapping macro and produce a SAS INPUT statement.  (Actually I want 
something to read DCOLLECT data and I'm too lazy to convert the dsect by 
hand.)


Does anyone out there know of such a thing, or should I write one and 
patent it? :-)


Thanks ...

Jim Blalock, z/OS guy, Clemson University

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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread Ward, Mike S
We have one PKDS and one CKDS for all lpars. 

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We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we
received the following:

11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN
CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER
AVAILABLE.
11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF  ENDED

We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently
of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However,
CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say
that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is
stowed. Not sure how to do that.

I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now
my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a
bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be
equivalent to a full outage.

What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

Thoughts?


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Re: Converting a DSECT to a SAS INPUT statement?

2011-03-03 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
There's this product called MXG ... SAS-based, reads DCOLLECT, most 
every known SMF record, a whole bunch of other things, and it's updated 
pretty near every time an input record is changed - or added.  Reasonably 
priced, too.

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From:
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To:
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Date:
03/03/2011 05:02 PM
Subject:
Converting a DSECT to a SAS INPUT statement?



Hi folks, I've been gone for a while but now I'm back ...

Anyway, I seem to dimly remember there was a tool to eat a DSECT or 
mapping macro and produce a SAS INPUT statement.  (Actually I want 
something to read DCOLLECT data and I'm too lazy to convert the dsect by 
hand.)

Does anyone out there know of such a thing, or should I write one and 
patent it? :-)

Thanks ...

Jim Blalock, z/OS guy, Clemson University

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Re: ICSF Troubles

2011-03-03 Thread zSeries Systems Programmer
Just a few items

How are you sharing?  GRS?  CA-MIM?  Etc.

Were the files defined with the correct share options?

Was this working before or new configuration?

On Thursday, March 3, 2011, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
 We have one PKDS and one CKDS for all lpars.

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of Hal Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:36 AM
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 Subject: ICSF Troubles

 We are z/os 1.11. We almost never IPL. The last time we IPL'd, we
 received the following:

 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM450E UNEXPECTED ERROR PROCESSING PKDS, RETURN
 CODE = 000C, REASON CODE = 1780.
 11.47.55 STC00014  CSFM401I CRYPTOGRAPHY - SERVICES ARE NO LONGER
 AVAILABLE.
 11.47.55 STC00014  IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE
 11.47.55 STC00014  $HASP395 CSF      ENDED

 We don't use PKI and have no current plans to do so. However, the CSF is
 critical. With a little experimentation in the testplex, I am currently
 of the opinion that it is some sort of file sharing issue.

 When I allocate a fresh PKDS, CSF on LparA comes up just fine. However,
 CSF on LparB sometimes fails with the above message. The FM seems to say
 that the PKDS is not completely initialized until the first key is
 stowed. Not sure how to do that.

 I'm thinking a PMR. But a user error is usually more likely. Right now
 my workaround is to point each LPAR to its own PKDS. Of course, I'm a
 bit nervous as I don't want to accidently break CSF. That would be
 equivalent to a full outage.

 What I'd really like to do is to completely shut off PKDS. I've tried
 starting with no PKDS specified, but CSF refuses to start.

 Thoughts?


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Re: What is the difference of the entry of the GDG vs VSAM in CATALOG

2011-03-03 Thread ibmnew
Joel C

 I got it.Thanks you very very much!

Best Regards,

Cai Jin Song


 Hi all
 
   We defined a VSAM file and a GDG base using a user id DBJMP05.
 The prefix of DBJMP05 is managed by SMS
 SMS routing
 SC :
   FILTLIST TSOUSERS   INCLUDE(DBJMP*)
 
 WHENHLQ =TSOUSERS
   SETSTORCLAS = 'SCSTAND'
 SG:
 FILTLIST TSOUSERS   INCLUDE(DBJMP*)
 
 WHEN(HLQ=TSOUSERS) SETSTORGRP = 'SGTSO'
 
 Below is the JCL and the output of the JCL.
 1. Define a VSAM : DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1
 DEFINE CLUSTER( -
   CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(4096) -
   TRACKS(50) -
   NAME(DBJMP05.BDZ3.MAN1) -
   INDEXED -
   RECORDSIZE(4086,32767) -
   BUFFERSPACE(81920) -
   REUSE -
   SHAREOPTIONS(2) -
   SPANNED -
   SPEED )
 
 The return code is Zero
 
 2.Define a base of GDG: DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST
 DEFINE GDG (NAME(DBJMP05.FAS.SE.FMLX.HIST) -
  LIMIT(03)  -
  NOEMPTY-
  SCRATCH )
 The return is 12
 
 ICH408I USER(DBJMP05 ) GROUP(#TMPUG  ) NAME(APPL MAINTENANCE
CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO CL(DATASET ) VOL(BD3CT1)
INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
FROM CATALOG.PLEXBDZ3.TSO (G)
ACCESS INTENT(UPDATE )  ACCESS ALLOWED(READ   )
 
 My question :
 
   I want to know the reasons:
   1. Why is it success when I define a vsam or PDS using prefix DBJMP05?
   2.Why isnot it success when I define a base of GDG using prefix DBJMP05?
   3.What is the difference  of them in the catalog
 
 Any suggestion would be helpful!
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
 Jason Cai
 
...
The answer is really quite simple, although perhaps counter-intuitive.
Only data sets are SMS controlled, thus the VSAM file is an SMS data
set, the GDG base is not.
 All SMS data sets must be cataloged in their alias-directed catalog;
therefore, except for the special case of the master catalog, z/OS
allows them to be cataloged in any user catalog to which they are
directed by defined alias definitions, bypassing any RACF access checks
on USERCAT catalog access in order to guarantee that cataloging can
occur and avoid unnecessary problems .  Master catalog access still
requires RACF access, since unless a mistake has been made, access to
any dataset HLQs that would map to master cat should be restricted to
SysProgs who should have access to master cat.
Since the GDG base is not an SMS dataset, RACF access checks on catalogs
are not bypassed and the user must have RACF UPDATE access to the
catalog.  Altering or creating catalog entries in a USERCAT, other than
those changes implied by the creation/deletion of SMS datasets, requires
UPDATE access to the catalog.
It used to be the case that RACF UPDATE access to all catalogs was
always required to make catalog changes. At somewhere along the line
this SMS exception was documented as an enhancement with MVS release
migration docs.
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Re: SMF data question - an opinion poll, of sorts

2011-03-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing

On 03/03/2011 08:19 AM, McKown, John wrote:

This is a type of opinion poll question. In general, it could be reduced to: What 
do you think of XML encoded data?. In particular, the nice RACF people have a program `which 
unloads their SMF audit data in XML format as an option. What is nice about it is that the data is 
printable and so easily downloaded to my Linux system. XML formatting is nice because it easier to 
read using Java and XSLT processor to do queries and reformatting. Which makes it easier for me to 
load into a database (PostgreSQL based in my case). I would find it very helpful to me if more SMF 
records could be made available in XML character format so that I could easily process it on Linux. 
So I'm wondering what others think of this? Does anybody else like XML? Or am I, once again, in the 
minority? Yes, I could write an HLASM program myself to do this. Perhaps by somehow reading ADATA 
output to generate a program to do it.

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I can see this as potentially useful if applied to a subset of SMF data. 
 But for processing all our umpteen million daily SMF records on 
another platform it would be a grossly inefficient choice, since adding 
XML tags to all fields would no doubt increase the physical size of an 
already large file by a factor of 3 or worse.  Compression of 
XML-formatted data could significantly reduce external file size, but 
compression/decompression costs cpu, and at some point in creating and 
using the data you still have to work with the expanded bytes.  XML 
representation has its advantages, but practicality goes down as volume 
of data goes up.

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George McLaren is out of the office

2011-03-03 Thread George McLaren
I will be out of the office starting  04/03/2011 and will not return until
14/03/2011.

I will respond to your mail, if required ,on my return.
 If urgent please contact Chris McClory on 58502

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Re: z/OS Virus Checker zLinux Virus Checker

2011-03-03 Thread Dr. Stephen Fedtke
hi all,

i almost missed this discussion. if you are interested in further arguments
and details in this field Vulnerability Analysis and Scan on z you should
also refer to the it security forum on our website. we completely solve
this problem for over a decade.

best
stephen



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At 14:04 29.01.2011 -0600, you wrote:
Elardus,

Please let me add some information in response to your posting:

There is a difference between a Virus and a System Integrity 
Exposure.The System Integrity Exposure is the Root Cause that a Virus 
exploits.There may be many Viruses, especially in Windows Systems, which 
exploit the same Root Cause.The PC Virus checkers look for the 
signatures of Virus code either executing or in directories and then 
take action to remove them.The Virus Checkers cannot fix the Root Cause 
-- in the case of Windows, only Microsoft can do that.But, it would be 
better if Microsoft would fix the Root Cause because then the Virus 
programs would become ineffective.

IBM's Statement of Integrity clearly states that if a System Integrity 
Vulnerability (the Root Cause) is reported to IBM, they will fix 
it.Microsoft does not make this commitment and this is why the z/OS 
Operating System is a much more securable system than Windows.

However, z/OS is not immune to these threats because it too has system 
integrity vulnerabilities.In your posting, you state that there are many 
alternatives to our Vulnerability Analysis Product for the ethical 
hacking/penetrating/scanning for defects and exposures.In fact, IBM 
purports to provide this capability from their Tivoli zSecure unit.On 
their zSecure Audit Website, they state: Security zSecure Audit 
includes a powerful system integrity analysis feature. Reports identify 
exposures and potential threats based on intelligent analysis built into 
the system.That's a pretty powerful and absolute statement.

But, since Tivoli is part of IBM you can be assured that their Quality 
Assurance Unit regularly tests their software against revisions to the 
IBM z/OS Operating System and, if any integrity exposures were found, 
they would have reported the vulnerabilities to IBM z/OS Development and 
Development would have fixed them.That would just be the normal course 
of business within IBM.

But, then, how can you reconcile the fact that our VAT product has 
located SIXTY SEVEN (67) new system integrity vulnerabilities in z/OS 
within the last two years.And, our clients have reported them to IBM, 
IBM has accepted them as errors, issued APARS for all of them and issued 
PTFs for almost all of them.So, obviously, the IBM Tivoli zSecure Audit 
package is not catching these errors.And, if IBM, is not catching these 
in their own code, what about the ones introduced by the rest of the 
Independent Software Vendor products and locally developed or otherwise 
obtained code on your system?There is a big vulnerability here that 
cannot be ignored.

An exploit of a z/OS (or ISV) system integrity vulnerability would allow 
the illegitimate user to obtain control in an authorized state and use 
this state to change his security credentials to obtain access and be 
able to modify any RACF protected resource on the system with no SMF 
journaling of the access.We have found these integrity exposures in code 
that is in operation on every z/OS system in existence.That is something 
to be concerned about and to act on.

I have no idea of the comparison between the cost of our Vulnerability 
Analysis Tool versus the competition.We would be happy to discuss that 
with you -- we believe it is inexpensive compared to the benefits which 
include not only a reduction of risk and exposure to data loss and 
modification which would result in exposure of company secrets, private 
information and financial loss, but a reduction of system outages.But, 
VAT works and locates the errors that other software/services do not.I 
can totally assure you that a manual process just will not work in our 
lifetimes.So, an automated process is necessary.And VAT provides that 
automation.

And I agree with you that many z/OS Auditors need to be educated on this.

Ray Overby
Key Resources, Inc.
Ensuring System Integrity for z/Series^(TM)
www.vatsecurity.com
(312)574-0007



On 1/29/2011 09:12 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
 Cris Hernandez #9 wrote:

 I too have auditors who treat the my mainframe like one those little puters
 and I find it best to first educate them before they convince my management
 to send me chasing phantoms.  Don't assume your auditor won't appreciate a
 mainframe education.

 Jim Marshall wrote:

 Auditors came around and wrote up our z/OS V1R10 Sysplex for not running a
 Virus Checker.  Anyone has a constructive solution as to one 

Mainframe Systems Programmer Position (z/Linux z/VM z/OS)

2011-03-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
All,

 

HDS have position vacant here in Santa Clara for a z/VM and Linux on Z
Series sysprog. I've included the link to the HDS jobs page below. Darren
has vetted and approved posting this on the Listserv. 

 

The link below won't take you directly to that specific job. This is the HDS
Careers page.

 

http://www.hds.com/corporate/careers/job-search/?_p=v

 

Once there enter Mainframe in the keyword search field.  Once you enter
the search, scroll down to the position headed Mainframe Systems Programmer
(z/Linux z/VM z/OS)-002349.

 

Thanks for your interest.

 

Ron

 


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Re: z/OS Virus Checker zLinux Virus Checker

2011-03-03 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Don't see anything like a forum in the sitemap of your web site.
J

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Dr. Stephen Fedtke 
max_mainframe_...@fedtke.com wrote:

 hi all,

 i almost missed this discussion. if you are interested in further arguments
 and details in this field Vulnerability Analysis and Scan on z you should
 also refer to the it security forum on our website. we completely solve
 this problem for over a decade.

 best
 stephen



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 At 14:04 29.01.2011 -0600, you wrote:
 Elardus,
 
 Please let me add some information in response to your posting:
 
 There is a difference between a Virus and a System Integrity
 Exposure.The System Integrity Exposure is the Root Cause that a Virus
 exploits.There may be many Viruses, especially in Windows Systems, which
 exploit the same Root Cause.The PC Virus checkers look for the
 signatures of Virus code either executing or in directories and then
 take action to remove them.The Virus Checkers cannot fix the Root Cause
 -- in the case of Windows, only Microsoft can do that.But, it would be
 better if Microsoft would fix the Root Cause because then the Virus
 programs would become ineffective.
 
 IBM's Statement of Integrity clearly states that if a System Integrity
 Vulnerability (the Root Cause) is reported to IBM, they will fix
 it.Microsoft does not make this commitment and this is why the z/OS
 Operating System is a much more securable system than Windows.
 
 However, z/OS is not immune to these threats because it too has system
 integrity vulnerabilities.In your posting, you state that there are many
 alternatives to our Vulnerability Analysis Product for the ethical
 hacking/penetrating/scanning for defects and exposures.In fact, IBM
 purports to provide this capability from their Tivoli zSecure unit.On
 their zSecure Audit Website, they state: Security zSecure Audit
 includes a powerful system integrity analysis feature. Reports identify
 exposures and potential threats based on intelligent analysis built into
 the system.That's a pretty powerful and absolute statement.
 
 But, since Tivoli is part of IBM you can be assured that their Quality
 Assurance Unit regularly tests their software against revisions to the
 IBM z/OS Operating System and, if any integrity exposures were found,
 they would have reported the vulnerabilities to IBM z/OS Development and
 Development would have fixed them.That would just be the normal course
 of business within IBM.
 
 But, then, how can you reconcile the fact that our VAT product has
 located SIXTY SEVEN (67) new system integrity vulnerabilities in z/OS
 within the last two years.And, our clients have reported them to IBM,
 IBM has accepted them as errors, issued APARS for all of them and issued
 PTFs for almost all of them.So, obviously, the IBM Tivoli zSecure Audit
 package is not catching these errors.And, if IBM, is not catching these
 in their own code, what about the ones introduced by the rest of the
 Independent Software Vendor products and locally developed or otherwise
 obtained code on your system?There is a big vulnerability here that
 cannot be ignored.
 
 An exploit of a z/OS (or ISV) system integrity vulnerability would allow
 the illegitimate user to obtain control in an authorized state and use
 this state to change his security credentials to obtain access and be
 able to modify any RACF protected resource on the system with no SMF
 journaling of the access.We have found these integrity exposures in code
 that is in operation on every z/OS system in existence.That is something
 to be concerned about and to act on.
 
 I have no idea of the comparison between the cost of our Vulnerability
 Analysis Tool versus the competition.We would be happy to discuss that
 with you -- we believe it is inexpensive compared to the benefits which
 include not only a reduction of risk and exposure to data loss and
 modification which would result in exposure of company secrets, private
 information and financial loss, but a reduction of system outages.But,
 VAT works and locates the errors that other software/services do not.I
 can totally assure you that a manual process just will not work in our
 lifetimes.So, an automated process is necessary.And VAT provides that
 automation.
 
 And I agree with you that many z/OS Auditors need to be educated on this.
 
 Ray Overby
 Key Resources, Inc.
 Ensuring System Integrity for z/Series^(TM)
 www.vatsecurity.com
 (312)574-0007
 
 
 
 On 1/29/2011 09:12 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
  Cris Hernandez #9 wrote:
 
  I too have auditors who treat the my mainframe like one those little
 puters
  and I find it best to first educate them before they convince my
 management
  to send me chasing phantoms.  Don't assume your