Re: EAV migration assistance tracker
Russel, I try to have the newest version active, but the newest sample on the IBM download site I've found has date 05/07/2010. Markus -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Regarding Hot or Warm start of Jes3
Hello, IPL isn't necessary, just do a Hotstart on the globel and a Local start on the local. Markus -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of sunil mirchandani Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 7:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Regarding Hot or Warm start of Jes3 Hello Team, I have added a new Proclib concatenation in JES3 Proc on two systems Lpara(Global) and Lparb (local), both are test systems with minimal usage Any one help me to identify which option shall i use while replying so that the new proclib change comes in effect. nn IAT3011 SPECIFY JES3 START TYPE: (C, L, H, HA, HR, HAR, W, WA, WR, WAR, OR CANCEL) And does it requires IPL in any of the system? -- Thanks Regards: Sunil Mirchandani 9243116830 Yesterday I dared to struggle. Today I dare to win -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SDSF issue
Hi, Recently we have upgraded our z/os to V1R12 but still we are not able to access the SDSF options and below error message is thrown. ISF024I USER A255209 NOT AUTHORIZED TO SDSF, NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT *** From the racf point of view i have checked the profiles permission but still we are not able to invoke. Is it something can someone throw light on this issue. apology for posting this question in this forum, but i just suspected whether it has any issues with exit routines. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SDSF issue
Hi, Did you check the message in the IBM Look At site? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/index.html *** NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT. The user does not fall into any group of users defined by ISFPARMS. For more information, see Group authorization parameters (ISFGRP or GROUP) in topic 2.11. Hope it helps you. Enrique Montero -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
I checked at the LOOTAT site and gave all the necessay access but still the user id is not able to access SDSF. Regards, Jags On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:20 PM, MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI enriqueeloi.mont...@servifactory.com wrote: Hi, Did you check the message in the IBM Look At site? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/index.html *** NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT. The user does not fall into any group of users defined by ISFPARMS. For more information, see Group authorization parameters (ISFGRP or GROUP) in topic 2.11. Hope it helps you. Enrique Montero -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
I checked at the LOOTAT site and gave all the necessay access but still the user id is not able to access SDSF. 1) How did you give the necessary authorizations ? 2) Do you run the SDSF Server address space ? Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
Hi, SDSF runs as server address space. I have given the ISF.** access to the user. Regards, Jags On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote: I checked at the LOOTAT site and gave all the necessay access but still the user id is not able to access SDSF. 1) How did you give the necessary authorizations ? 2) Do you run the SDSF Server address space ? Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BPXPRMxx and FORKCOPY
Well CEE.SCEERUN and RUN2 are in the linklist while CEE.SCEELPA is in the lpalist. I'm still confused about this statement in the FM. Mark Jacobs On 05/16/11 19:46, John McKown wrote: Don't know for certain, but I'd lay odds that it is the LE libraries. Most UNIX commands are written in C. Which requires LE to run. On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 11:33 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: In the documentation for the FORKCOPY option in BPXPRMxx it says; If the runtime library is in the link pack area, specify FORKCOPY(COPY). If the runtime library is not in the link pack area, specify FORKCOPY(COW). Which runtime library is it referring to? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Some people are electrifying, they light up a room when they leave. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
If you do, then you need to defin SDSF runs as server address space. If you do, then you need to define the needed authorizations in ISFPRMxx in your PARMLIB concatenation. I have given the ISF.** access to the user. AFAIK, either you protect SDSF functions using the SDSF Server and its ISFPRMxx member, or you activate the RACF class SDSF and define the needed profiles to accomplish the same goal. How do you want to control SDSF functions ? It looks like you are using SDSF Server to do it. If you are, then you must add the user you mentioned in your earlier post in ISFPRMxx, and then activate the changes with the command: F SDSF,REFRESH,M=xx, where xx is the suffix of your ISFPRM member. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
Thanks a lot ,I permitted the user to group.ISFSPROG.sdsf and the user was able to access the SDSF. Regards, Jags On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote: If you do, then you need to defin SDSF runs as server address space. If you do, then you need to define the needed authorizations in ISFPRMxx in your PARMLIB concatenation. I have given the ISF.** access to the user. AFAIK, either you protect SDSF functions using the SDSF Server and its ISFPRMxx member, or you activate the RACF class SDSF and define the needed profiles to accomplish the same goal. How do you want to control SDSF functions ? It looks like you are using SDSF Server to do it. If you are, then you must add the user you mentioned in your earlier post in ISFPRMxx, and then activate the changes with the command: F SDSF,REFRESH,M=xx, where xx is the suffix of your ISFPRM member. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
jagadishan perumal wrote: Recently we have upgraded our z/os to V1R12 but still we are not able to access the SDSF options and below error message is thrown. ISF024I USER A255209 NOT AUTHORIZED TO SDSF, NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT *** Have the id do comman WHO and compare the output with ISFPRMxx member. From the racf point of view i have checked the profiles permission but still we are not able to invoke. If you change anything in RACF and/or ISFPRM, be sure to do a proper refresh in RACF and for the SDSF server as mentioned earlier. Also have a look at profile GROUP.ISFSPROG.server-name in SDSF class. Then, have the id come out of SDSF completely and try again. HTH! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
Thanks a lot ,I permitted the user to group.ISFSPROG.sdsf and the user was able to access the SDSF. Regards, Jags On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote: If you do, then you need to defin SDSF runs as server address space. If you do, then you need to define the needed authorizations in ISFPRMxx in your PARMLIB concatenation. I have given the ISF.** access to the user. AFAIK, either you protect SDSF functions using the SDSF Server and its ISFPRMxx member, or you activate the RACF class SDSF and define the needed profiles to accomplish the same goal. How do you want to control SDSF functions ? It looks like you are using SDSF Server to do it. If you are, then you must add the user you mentioned in your earlier post in ISFPRMxx, and then activate the changes with the command: F SDSF,REFRESH,M=xx, where xx is the suffix of your ISFPRM member. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Running z/OS On Your Laptop
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab http://www.p390.com/pdf/zPDTPricingSheet120209.pdf is the prices for the hardware, dongle, and software discs. Compared to the 1996 pricing on a P/390, even the L3 offering here is CHEAP. Still beyond my individual means, though. http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/'HTTPD2.ADCD.GLOBAL.HTML(READM11S)' AC/DC annual updates. This URI doesn't work. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Running z/OS On Your Laptop
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. More like $US2330. The AUD is worth more than the USD now (www.xe.com). Yep, and The FED (Federal Reserve Bank), the world's only approved counterfeiter of US currency, is trying hard to make the USD completely worthless. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BPXPRMxx and FORKCOPY
Don't know for certain, but I'd lay odds that it is the LE libraries. Most UNIX commands are written in C. Which requires LE to run. On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 11:33 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: In the documentation for the FORKCOPY option in BPXPRMxx it says; If the runtime library is in the link pack area, specify FORKCOPY(COPY). If the runtime library is not in the link pack area, specify FORKCOPY(COW). Which runtime library is it referring to? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL In Language Environment the only runtime libraries I know of are the SCEERUN and SCEERUN2. In the Unix Services manual it indicates that the FORKCOPY parameter in BPXPRMxx prevents the fork from using IARVSERV function The LE Customization manual (SA22-7564) will list each LE library and what/where it functions. According to this the SCEELPA (Subset of SCEERUN modules which reside above the line) SCEERUN2 runtime library that contains modules for application execution and those required to live in a PDS/E SCEERUN runtime library needed during execution of C/C++, PL/I, Cobol and Fortran. From a brief scan of the remaining libraries they are for compiling/lked I find that usually when IBM is ambiguous, then there is a reliance of other manuals to talk more specifically what the information is needed. I would prefer at least a link or notation as to what manual I need to reference to get the details. HTH Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Running z/OS On Your Laptop
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Running z/OS On Your Laptop Snipped http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/'HTTPD2.ADCD.GLOBAL.HTML(READM11S)' AC/DC annual updates. This URI doesn't work. Add the trailing quote and it works OK. The mail client didn't include that quote in the URI for some reason. Peter -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Under z/OS Unix
On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:57:38 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: The Unix syntax is the same whether the commands come from a Telnet session or from the TSO OMVS command. Syntax: Yes Terminal (not command) behaviour: No Surely you're not thinking of the dreadful RUNNING/INPUT toggle (I try not to). IBM should be ashamed. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Running z/OS On Your Laptop
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 -Original Message- Snipped http://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/MVSDS/'HTTPD2.ADCD.GLOBAL.HTML(READM11S)' AC/DC annual updates. This URI doesn't work. Add the trailing quote and it works OK. The mail client didn't include that quote in the URI for some reason. Ahh. . . . That does make the difference. Still downright CHEAP compared to the P/390 offering. :-) Still out of my reach. :-( -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Regarding Hot or Warm start of Jes3
On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:56:19 +0530, sunil mirchandani sunilmirchandani1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Team, I have added a new Proclib concatenation in JES3 Proc on two systems Lpara(Global) and Lparb (local), both are test systems with minimal usage Any one help me to identify which option shall i use while replying so that the new proclib change comes in effect. nn IAT3011 SPECIFY JES3 START TYPE: (C, L, H, HA, HR, HAR, W, WA, WR, WAR, OR CANCEL) And does it requires IPL in any of the system? You might want to confirm this on JES3-L, where the experts lurk (http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/jes3-l.html), though many read here as well. HR (Hotstart with Refresh) causes JES3 to read the INISH deck and pick up changes, including the STANDARDS and DYNALLOC statements required in this case. The A (for Analysis) is optional, and has no effect on this specific case. IPL is not required for Hotstarts. If you have a MAS, Hotstart the Global, and the Locals should get redriven once the Global completes. IIRC, a Warmstart on the Global will force an IPL of the Locals. I would not recommend a Cold start - you'll lose spool. See also the JES3 Init Tuning Reference (mind the wrap on the URL): http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IAT2A690/CCONTENTS?SHELF=iat2bka0DN=SA22- 7549-09DT=20100701105608 and the JES3 Init Tuning Guide (again, mind the wrap): http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IAT2A890/CCONTENTS?SHELF=iat2bka0DN=SA22- 7550-09DT=20100630152447 Regards, Art Gutowski Compuware Corporation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
Jags As I have just pointed out in the RACF-L list, when you post in more than one list you should say so in order that people can respond appropriately. ... apology for posting this question in this forum, ... Unless there is a list specifically for matters concerning SDSF, this list will be the appropriate one - and *not* RACF-L. If the folk in RACF-L see that you have posted here they will know they need not bother dealing with a matter outside their formally defined zone of expertise since the question has been posed where it should be being posed. - Incidentally, if we are dealing with something which you think should work but doesn't, we are dealing with a *problem*, not an *issue*. As you can see above, because of this wanton misuse of the word issue, it is now impossible actually to use the word in contexts where it would most naturally be used and another word must be substituted. In the case above, I felt obliged to back-key, as it were, over issues and key matters or I would inappropriately be stating that the lists are only for problems, incorrectly described as issues, when lists are indeed for issues, in the original sense of the word before its attempted corruption, as well as problems. I can now imagine some of limited intellect - it's a family list so I am guarding my language - jumping in with totally useless comments that language evolves and the like. To which my response - so don't bother posting - is not when it involves losing species, we are already too deeply into The Sixth Extinction without deliberately adding any more loss. Chris Mason On Tue, 17 May 2011 14:28:01 +0530, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Recently we have upgraded our z/os to V1R12 but still we are not able to access the SDSF options and below error message is thrown. ISF024I USER A255209 NOT AUTHORIZED TO SDSF, NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT *** From the racf point of view i have checked the profiles permission but still we are not able to invoke. Is it something can someone throw light on this issue. apology for posting this question in this forum, but i just suspected whether it has any issues with exit routines. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
Enrique Did you check the message in the IBM Look At site? Indeed, when you discover a message that you need quickly explained, the LookAt! technique can be very helpful as a starting point. However in this case, we are dealing with a product which is completely described in one manual: z/OS SDSF Operation and Customization, SA22-7670-14 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/isf4csa0/ for the V1R12 edition, so it might be most sensible to start here. Jags is already talking about his SAF product, RACF, so it's a strong indication he has already checked the description of the message - although it might have been better if he had said so and even himself posted the quite small message explanation. Chris Mason On Tue, 17 May 2011 11:50:25 +0200, MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI enriqueeloi.mont...@servifactory.com wrote: Hi, Did you check the message in the IBM Look At site? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/index.html *** NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT. The user does not fall into any group of users defined by ISFPARMS. For more information, see Group authorization parameters (ISFGRP or GROUP) in topic 2.11. Hope it helps you. Enrique Montero -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
Jags ... gave all the necessary access but still the user id is not able to access SDSF. Clearly you did not! But happily I see that now, prompted by Walter Marguccio, you have. Chris Mason On Tue, 17 May 2011 15:26:16 +0530, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com wrote: I checked at the LOOTAT site and gave all the necessay access but still the user id is not able to access SDSF. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: migrated dataset size
Thanks ... It will be helpfull ! Cordialement, ___ YANN CUNY AXA TECH IDST OUTILS ( + 33 1 55 67 22 49 ___ -Message d'origine- De : IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] De la part de Lizette Koehler Envoyé : vendredi 13 mai 2011 19:33 À : IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Objet : Re: migrated dataset size Hi all, We have to estimate the size of migrated datasets. How could we do ? Will this do what you want? If you do an HLIST dsn(/) MCDS you will get the following DSN=STC04522.D2011019.T085437 MIGVOL=300751 DSO=PS SDSP=NO LAST REF=11/01/23 MIG=11/03/17 TRKS=030 2K BLKS= *** TIMES MIG= 001 16K BLKS=03 LAST MIGVOL=*NONE* So this says it has 3 16K blocks or it had 30 Tracks when it was migrated. Is this the kind of information you are looking for? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Ce message est confidentiel; Son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech) sous reserve de tout accord conclu par ecrit entre vous et AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech).Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion,meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. Si vous n'etes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immediatement l'expe- diteur. This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech) except where provi- ded for in a written agreement between you and AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech). Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemina- tion, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender imme- diately. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Regarding Hot or Warm start of Jes3
Thanks all. I have used HR option and it worked fine.. Thanks Regards: Sunil Mirchandani 9243116830 Yesterday I dared to struggle. Today I dare to win On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Art Gutowski arthur.gutow...@compuware.com wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:56:19 +0530, sunil mirchandani sunilmirchandani1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Team, I have added a new Proclib concatenation in JES3 Proc on two systems Lpara(Global) and Lparb (local), both are test systems with minimal usage Any one help me to identify which option shall i use while replying so that the new proclib change comes in effect. nn IAT3011 SPECIFY JES3 START TYPE: (C, L, H, HA, HR, HAR, W, WA, WR, WAR, OR CANCEL) And does it requires IPL in any of the system? You might want to confirm this on JES3-L, where the experts lurk (http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/jes3-l.html), though many read here as well. HR (Hotstart with Refresh) causes JES3 to read the INISH deck and pick up changes, including the STANDARDS and DYNALLOC statements required in this case. The A (for Analysis) is optional, and has no effect on this specific case. IPL is not required for Hotstarts. If you have a MAS, Hotstart the Global, and the Locals should get redriven once the Global completes. IIRC, a Warmstart on the Global will force an IPL of the Locals. I would not recommend a Cold start - you'll lose spool. See also the JES3 Init Tuning Reference (mind the wrap on the URL): http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IAT2A690/CCONTENTS?SHELF=iat2bka0DN=SA22- 7549-09DT=20100701105608 and the JES3 Init Tuning Guide (again, mind the wrap): http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IAT2A890/CCONTENTS?SHELF=iat2bka0DN=SA22- 7550-09DT=20100630152447 Regards, Art Gutowski Compuware Corporation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards: Sunil Mirchandani 9243116830 Yesterday I dared to struggle. Today I dare to win -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
did you check the ISFPRMxx? On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:58 AM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Recently we have upgraded our z/os to V1R12 but still we are not able to access the SDSF options and below error message is thrown. ISF024I USER A255209 NOT AUTHORIZED TO SDSF, NO GROUP ASSIGNMENT *** From the racf point of view i have checked the profiles permission but still we are not able to invoke. Is it something can someone throw light on this issue. apology for posting this question in this forum, but i just suspected whether it has any issues with exit routines. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF issue
Chris, Funny that the US Thesaurus built into Windows lists problem as an alternative for issue. Why don't you take this up with Microsoft? I have no problem understanding what Jags is saying, and don't give a toss where he posts his questions. Ron Incidentally, if we are dealing with something which you think should work but doesn't, we are dealing with a *problem*, not an *issue*. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
What to do with misdirected questions (Was: SDSF issue)
... and don't give a toss where he posts his questions. Well, in total contrast, I do, assuming I spot them - in order that he may this time and next time and the time after that more accurately target his burgeoning queries. Chris Mason On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:45:17 -0700, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
There's always one! the US Thesaurus built into Windows lists problem as an alternative for issue. Gates? You trust Gates to define your language for you? You must be joking or, if you are not, a sadder character than I thought. Incidentally, if anyone is of a mind to challenge whether or not this is a valid point to raise in this list or indeed in any of the technical lists to which I and many present subscribe, just look at a selection of the thread subjects. Now I'm an incredibly understanding character myself and so I am going to exercise extreme kindness and bow to the litigious folk between the shining seas by quoting from a dictionary which I believe is held in highest esteem by our wayward cousins, namely, Webster's Seventh New Collegiate, on the flyleaves of which the latest date I can find is 1966. Sadly, it's cloth- not Morocco- bound! I'd like to start out by saying - unless subject to overwhelming demand - I am not going to refer to what this dictionary says about the word problem since - I may be wrong - there should be no debate (see later) over what sort of significance the word problem has. So let us turn immediately to the word issue and I'll open the curtain - sorry drapes - since I need more light: transcribe 1 issue n 1 pl : proceeds from a source of revenue (as an estate) 2 : the action of going, coming or flowing out : EGRESS, EMERGENCE 3 : a means or place of going out : EXIT, OUTLET 4 : OFFSPRING, PROGENY 5 a : final outcome : RESULT b obs : a final conclusion or decision about something arrived at after consideration c archaic : TERMINATION, END hope that his enterprise would have a prosperous ~ - T.B. Macaulay 6 a : a matter that is in dispute between two or more parties[1] : a point of debate or controversy b : the point at which an unsettled matter is ready for a decision (brought the matter to an ~) 7 : a discharge (as of blood) from the body 8 a : something coming forth from a specified source (~s of a disordered imagination[2]) b obs : DEED 9 a : the act of officially giving out or printing (as new currency, supplies, an order) : PUBLICATION b : the thing or the whole quantity of things given out at one time (new ~ of stamps) (stock ~) syn see EFFECT at issue 1 : in a state of controversy : in disagreement[3] 2 : also in issue : under discussion or in dispute /transcribe My eyes are beginning to feel the strain so I'll pick up the tool of the true detective. transcribe 2 issue vt 1 a : to go, come, or flow out b : to come forth : EMERGE c : to come to an issue of law or fact in pleading 2 : ACCRUE 3 : to descend from a specified parent or ancestor 4 : to be a consequence or final outcome : EMANATE, RESULT 5 : to appear or become available through being officially put forth or distributed : appear through issuance or publication 6 : EVENTUATE, TERMINATE ~ vt 1 : to cause to come forth : DISCHARGE, EMIT 2 a : to put forth or distribute officially government issued a new airmail stamp ~ orders to advance b : to send out for sale or circulation : PUBLISH syn - see SPRING - issuer n /transcribe Would anyone care to (try to) point out which of these manifold possibilities has anything whatsoever in this world to do with problem? I'll give you a start: one of the explanations of the word problematic includes the word debate which is indeed a word which appears in the explanations of the word issue above. That's the closest I can get! - I have no problem understanding what Jags is saying, ... I believe I don't either, just as I can get by with French, German, even some Russian and Italian and, possibly a surprise, Bulgarian (an easier version of Russian!) but I prefer when English is being used for it to be used correctly. Furthermore, if I am offering help. I insist upon it! That's the quid pro quo - and odd snippets of Latin (or Ancient Greek) when appropriate! - [1] I guess if one party is the systems programmer and the other party is the set of definitions he or she has coded and the desired result is not forthcoming, I'm wrong, issue does mean problem! [2] I'm not sure I could have put it better! [3] You can say that again - that, that, that, ... - Chris Mason On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:45:17 -0700, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Chris, Funny that the US Thesaurus built into Windows lists problem as an alternative for issue. Why don't you take this up with Microsoft? I have no problem understanding what Jags is saying, ... Ron Incidentally, if we are dealing with something which you think should work but doesn't, we are dealing with a *problem*, not an *issue*. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
But you did not allow for 'issue' and 'problem' in the pluperfect progressive grammatical tense. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Under z/OS Unix
In listserv%201105161217371283.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 05/16/2011 at 12:17 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Because you trimmed the essence of my remark, I quoted the part that I was challenging. then disputed what remained out of context. Context is not always relevant. I was challenging the claim It allows function reference before definition, so a typo in a function name would cause the interpreter to swallow all input looking for the definition. I don't see how anything prior to the comma changes the claim after the comma. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
But you did not allow for 'issue' and 'problem' in the pluperfect progressive grammatical tense. Thank you for clouding the topic,b - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
I know - we get to keep it simple Theresa Hellner Application Architect -- Mainframe Security Engineering (602) 284-2732 Cell Phone From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Donnelly, John P [john.p.donne...@nsc.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue) But you did not allow for 'issue' and 'problem' in the pluperfect progressive grammatical tense. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html American Express made the following annotations on Tue May 17 2011 13:37:56 ** This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you. American Express a ajouté le commentaire suivant le Tue May 17 2011 13:37:56 Ce courrier et toute pièce jointe qu'il contient sont réservés au seul destinataire indiqué et peuvent renfermer des renseignements confidentiels et privilégiés. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, toute divulgation, duplication, utilisation ou distribution du courrier ou de toute pièce jointe est interdite. Si vous avez reçu cette communication par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser par courrier et détruire immédiatement le courrier et les pièces jointes. Merci. ** --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
In a general thesaurus, issue is a synonym of problem...and surprisingly, problem is a synonym of issue... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue) But you did not allow for 'issue' and 'problem' in the pluperfect progressive grammatical tense. Thank you for clouding the topic,b - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
On 17 May 2011 16:32, Donnelly, John P john.p.donne...@nsc.com wrote: But you did not allow for 'issue' and 'problem' in the pluperfect progressive grammatical tense. I had been thinking that someone would raise this issue. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: snip Now I'm an incredibly understanding character myself and so I am going to exercise extreme kindness and bow to the litigious folk between the shining seas by quoting from a dictionary which I believe is held in highest esteem by our wayward cousins, namely, Webster's Seventh New Collegiate, on the flyleaves of which the latest date I can find is 1966. Sadly, it's cloth- not Morocco- bound! Why are you using an obsolete reference? It's 45 years old: the language has evolved since then. I'll bet it doesn't include any mention of a telecommunications device under cellular, for example; it may not even include integrated circuit. Plus that's hardly a highly esteemed dictionary (little-known fact: Webster's on a dictionary has no significance - it's just an attempt to cadge some legitimacy by invoking Noah Webster's name). Try AHD or OED (both of which do support the usage). I don't think cherry-picking your references enhances your credibility. Look at any modern dictionary: I suspect you'll find they're synonyms. (I say suspect because I haven't checked them all, of course.) Ye're rowin' agin the tide, son... ...phsiii -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
The OP's father might worry that his issue has issued an issue re 'issue'... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
On 5/17/2011 3:32 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On 17 May 2011 16:32, Donnelly, John Pjohn.p.donne...@nsc.com wrote: But you did not allow for 'issue' and 'problem' in the pluperfect progressive grammatical tense. I had been thinking that someone would raise this issue. Tony H. Classy comment, Tony! -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.comwrote: On 5/17/2011 3:32 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On 17 May 2011 16:32, Donnelly, John Pjohn.p.donne...@nsc.com wrote: But you did not allow for 'issue' and 'problem' in the pluperfect progressive grammatical tense. I had been thinking that someone would raise this issue. Tony H. Classy comment, Tony! Guys this is becoming an issue ... Will a problem report be required? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
Webster's on a dictionary has no significance - it's just an attempt to cadge some legitimacy by invoking Noah Webster's name). Try AHD or OED (both of which do support the usage). Dictionaries do NOT support usage! They report it! Any usage is subject to consensus. We, when I was a kid, used to say ain't ain't in the dictionary. It is, now! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Webster's on a dictionary has no significance - it's just an attempt to cadge some legitimacy by invoking Noah Webster's name). Try AHD or OED (both of which do support the usage). Dictionaries do NOT support usage! They report it! Any usage is subject to consensus. We, when I was a kid, used to say ain't ain't in the dictionary. It is, now! Good point...that's what I meant by support: they assert that it is a common usage. The better ones (AHD comes to mind) include comments on non-standard usage-and these evolve with each revision. (There's no such note for issue as a synonym for problem.) As a broad example, compound nouns typically evolve from open (web server) to hyphenated (web-server) to closed (webserver). The OED, of course, has a group who do nothing but track this evolution and make updates for the next rev. However, note that the OP seems convinced that dictionaries define 'correct' spelling and usage... ...phsiii -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
Sometime soon, this issue (def n 6) may become a problem (of additional IBM-MAIN noise). I hope we can cease the issues (def vt 1a) on the list soon before Darren rightly points out that dictionaries and proper word usage have little relationship to mainframe topics of discussion. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue) Webster's on a dictionary has no significance - it's just an attempt to cadge some legitimacy by invoking Noah Webster's name). Try AHD or OED (both of which do support the usage). Dictionaries do NOT support usage! They report it! Any usage is subject to consensus. We, when I was a kid, used to say ain't ain't in the dictionary. It is, now! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Reading dumps with secondary address spaces
Where is it documented on how to read sysudumps with secondardy address spaces. I need to see the information in the secondary address space. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
Time to reel in the kids. Kill this thread. Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote in message news: 1305551674-1305673483-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1802551282-@b2.c1.bise6.blackberry... Webster's on a dictionary has no significance - it's just an attempt to cadge some legitimacy by invoking Noah Webster's name). Try AHD or OED (both of which do support the usage). Dictionaries do NOT support usage! They report it! Any usage is subject to consensus. We, when I was a kid, used to say ain't ain't in the dictionary. It is, now! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SDSF API - REXX or Java?
Does anybody know which is more CPU efficient? Functionally equivalent SDSF API code in REXX or in Java? Assume there is no zAAP or zIIP to offload the Java workload. Assume fairly equal programming ability in the person doing the coding (equally medium). Compiling of Java would occur on my desktop using Netbeans as the IDE. REXX would be edited on z/OS using ISPF edit. The code would either run in the HTTP server or in batch (using JZOS for Java; and IKJEFT01 for REXX or maybe even Co:Z to run REXX in a UNIX environment instead of a TSO environment). Secondary question. In general, would using Co:Z's UNIX setup be more efficient, less efficient, or generally equal to IKJEFT01 for running REXX? I guess that might be comparing TSO in batch vs. UNIX in batch. I'd almost bet on TSO due to the overhead of fork()'ing in UNIX. -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying tapes with 256K blocksizes
Fred Schmidt wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 14:21:15 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ---snip--- Does the name TAPE appear in your device name table? You also need a DD statement that refers to each tape volume; IEHMOVE will modify it and use OPEN TYPE=J to access the ap[[ropriate files. Rick Yes, TAPE is in the device table, Rick. JCL used was as follows. VOLSER 200198 was a scratch tape. //COPY EXEC PGM=IEHMOVE //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DISP=(NEW,KEEP),VOL=SER=SYS006, // UNIT=3390,DSN=SYS1.DONOT.EXIST,SPACE=(CYL,(10,10)) //INDD1DD UNIT=TAPE,DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=101178 //OUTDD1 DD UNIT=TAPE,DATACLAS=ATL3592,DISP=(,KEEP) //SYSINDD * COPY VOLUME=TAPE=101178,TO=TAPE=200198 /* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Try this: COPY DSNAME=a.b.c,FROM=TQAPE=(101178,file#),TO=TAPE=(200198,file#), x FROMDD=INDD1,TODD=OUTDD1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
Do you honestly think that Gates is the author of the Thesaurus shipped with Office? And as for defining my language, the English I speak and spell is much closer to the real thing then the one you use. So what? And so we get to your newest subject de jour; I am a sad character. Well what did I do to attract a personal attack? Whatever, I guess it makes it OK to return the same in kind, Chris please STFU. You won't find that acronym in a VTAM manual, and I really don't care if your do. Context is everything and so you know exactly what I mean. Gates? You trust Gates to define your language for you? You must be joking or, if you are not, a sadder character than I thought. Well everyone, this LISTSERV has been hijacked by one contributor and is now bordering on the ridiculous. Good day and good luck to all those I have debated, agreed with, and most importantly learnt from for the last 14 years, but It's farewell from me. I'll watch for it to be renamed to USS-IS-A-VTAM-ACRONYM-MAIN sometime in the future. I'll look out for you at the IBM-MAIN table at SCIDS next Share. Ton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What to do with misdirected questions (Was: SDSF issue)
Well bully for you... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] What to do with misdirected questions (Was: SDSF issue) ... and don't give a toss where he posts his questions. Well, in total contrast, I do, assuming I spot them - in order that he may this time and next time and the time after that more accurately target his burgeoning queries. Chris Mason On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:45:17 -0700, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
Does this Mason have a job? - Original Message - From: Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:12 PM Subject: Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue) Do you honestly think that Gates is the author of the Thesaurus shipped with Office? And as for defining my language, the English I speak and spell is much closer to the real thing then the one you use. So what? And so we get to your newest subject de jour; I am a sad character. Well what did I do to attract a personal attack? Whatever, I guess it makes it OK to return the same in kind, Chris please STFU. You won't find that acronym in a VTAM manual, and I really don't care if your do. Context is everything and so you know exactly what I mean. Gates? You trust Gates to define your language for you? You must be joking or, if you are not, a sadder character than I thought. Well everyone, this LISTSERV has been hijacked by one contributor and is now bordering on the ridiculous. Good day and good luck to all those I have debated, agreed with, and most importantly learnt from for the last 14 years, but It's farewell from me. I'll watch for it to be renamed to USS-IS-A-VTAM-ACRONYM-MAIN sometime in the future. I'll look out for you at the IBM-MAIN table at SCIDS next Share. Ton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
On 18/05/2011 9:12 AM, Ron Hawkins wrote: Well everyone, this LISTSERV has been hijacked by one contributor and is now bordering on the ridiculous. Good day and good luck to all those I have debated, agreed with, and most importantly learnt from for the last 14 years, but It's farewell from me. I'll watch for it to be renamed to USS-IS-A-VTAM-ACRONYM-MAIN sometime in the future. I'll look out for you at the IBM-MAIN table at SCIDS next Share. Please re-consider Ron. A list forum is only as good as it's experts and you're a fair dinkum expert. You can always plonk trolls into your kill list. Ton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
AUTO: Witold Scislak/Poland/IBM is out of the office. (returning 06/08/2011)
I am out of the office until 06/08/2011. I am on vacation. Limited access to mailbox (but will try to look at). Mobile: + 48 601606821. Note: This is an automated response to your message Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue) sent on 18/5/11 0:02:51. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What does issue mean? (Was: SDSF issue)
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Do you honestly think that Gates is the author of the Thesaurus shipped with Office? deleted The last software Bill Gates wrote was the TRS-80 Model 100 http://www.club100.org/press/04/feature.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying tapes with 256K blocksizes
On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:26:20 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ---snip Try this: COPY DSNAME=a.b.c,FROM=TQAPE=(101178,file#),TO=TAPE=(200198,file#), x FROMDD=INDD1,TODD=OUTDD1 Yes, but if I have to specify individual file numbers, I may as well stick with my current approach of using REXX to build JCL steps to copy each file. I'm trying to avoid typing in 11,000 odd steps by hand! Fred. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying tapes with 256K blocksizes
On May 17, 11:13pm, Eric Jackson wrote... IEHMOVE has been functionally stable for a generation. A human generation. As described in Utilities, it doesn't copy from tape to tape, and it doesn't handle blocks greater than 32,760. That just about kills the IEHMOVE maggot option, then. I did see something along those lines in the fine manual, but it wasn't real clear. Fred -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying tapes with 256K blocksizes
Just FYI for those following this thread, I have been talking off-list with Sams Golob and Bass, who are kindly looking at adapting their various tape copying utilities to handle 256K blocksizes. Fred. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Reading dumps with secondary address spaces
Where is it documented on how to read sysudumps with secondardy address spaces. I need to see the information in the secondary address space. I believe you're out of luck on that one. I am not aware of any place describing *how* to read sysudumps. Contents are described where the dump otions are described. IIRC, you won't find any 'other' address space data in a sysudump, since that is especially tailored for key8 application programs, and I believe the dumping process makes sure that you don't see more that key8 storage. (To go cross-memory, you need to be authorized in some form, and that won't be dumped in udumps. I am not even sure that a sysmdump would help here.) Since I avoid sysudumps like the plague, all I could tell you is how to read an *sdump* where there are several address spaces dumped. Just use IPCS and specify the address space wanted as a parm. Regards, Barbara Nitz -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Copying tapes with 256K blocksizes
Rick: You have proven that IEHMOVE should be nuked and or zapped out of existance. There is also a cavet if you go into multi volume to make sure you put the sequence numer in parenthess eg vol=tape=(123456,1,23456,1, etc etc Heaven help you if you have multiple iehmove datasets on a volume. Then I think you need the original listing to get it back. God I hated IEHMOVE. Ed From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 7:26:20 PM Subject: Re: Copying tapes with 256K blocksizes Fred Schmidt wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 14:21:15 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ---snip--- Does the name TAPE appear in your device name table? You also need a DD statement that refers to each tape volume; IEHMOVE will modify it and use OPEN TYPE=J to access the ap[[ropriate files. Rick Yes, TAPE is in the device table, Rick. JCL used was as follows. VOLSER 200198 was a scratch tape. //COPY EXEC PGM=IEHMOVE //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DISP=(NEW,KEEP),VOL=SER=SYS006, // UNIT=3390,DSN=SYS1.DONOT.EXIST,SPACE=(CYL,(10,10)) //INDD1DD UNIT=TAPE,DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=101178//OUTDD1 DD UNIT=TAPE,DATACLAS=ATL3592,DISP=(,KEEP) //SYSINDD * COPY VOLUME=TAPE=101178,TO=TAPE=200198 /* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Try this: COPY DSNAME=a.b.c,FROM=TQAPE=(101178,file#),TO=TAPE=(200198,file#), x FROMDD=INDD1,TODD=OUTDD1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF
Shmuel: A couple of things. 1. Yes I used to wade though some of the posts and decided they weren't worth the time next time I saw one to do so. 2. You first statement comes under opinion. I will leave it as that. I was expressing an opinion as did you. 3. As to the manual I referenced I spent a week on the damn book and all I got was headache . I do not remember ever seeing such a complex document come out of IBM before this one. Even the migration guides for the different OS's weren't that complex. Now if you want to talk about the complexity of OS level's it is getting better (thanks IBM) but the cobol conversion book takes the cake it is overly complex and so dry I think that you could use the desert as competition. I had a chance to go through it again *BRIEFLY* this afternoon and I found it overly complex and similar to some of the discussion on here. We are a technical area and the discussion can get obtuse at times and we have to remember to keep it simple stupid (KISS for short).Once in a while I agree the discussion is worthwhile but more times than not a NO or a YES does not add to the discussion. One the other hand 3 pages is just plain overkill. A simple URL would have suficed or if its original a note saying see my submission on xx/xx/ at 3pm would have been best, in my opinion. Ed From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 7:53:13 AM Subject: Re: Aw: Re: non-module-PDS and VLF In 105438.15379...@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on 05/15/2011 at 09:47 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said: People write in whole complete sentences for a complete thought to be conveyed. Some people do, sometimes. Some people sometimes write perfectly understandable sentence fragments. Take as an example (sorry do not have the number off the top of my head). I believe its called the MVS COBOL conversion guide (or something close) is close to what I am trying to convey here. They manage to take a simple statement and turn into a legalize length document that you truly have to be a lawyer to understand. If you didn't understand it, how do you know that it is equivalent to a simple statement? I agree that there is verbose text in some manuals, but there are also cases where what the text describes is complex and a shorter description would be flat wrong. Some of the replies on here are a lot like that. Certainly. But have you correctly determined which are which? I'd rather wade through complex text than make a programming error as the result of believing an overly simplistic post. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF API - REXX or Java?
my two cents: (a) is the SDSF API available in Java or is it just JNI around some C or even REXX functions? - no words, eh - (b) what has to be done? # computing like numerical maths (in addition one could differ, e.g. between integer and floating point) -- Java has neat facilities dealing efficiently according to type of data. For REXX, everything appears as string (yes, REXX knows about different data types like string of characters, integer and float. But all data is given in the form of typeless character strings. Therefore I imply that REXX needs to find out how to deal with the data depending on operation and appearance.). # I/O business (in addition one could differ between, e.g. small chunks of DASD and big PS data sets on tape) -- Java on z/OS deals with CCSID conversion between EBCDIC and Unicode (in general, may be you have the data set contents in Unicode already?) which REXX typically does not need. (c) Do you have REXX compiler or interpreter? When you have compiled REXX, I would assume this is running faster than Java as a rule of thumb. When you have REXX interpreter only, I would assume the Java program is running faster due to the just in time compiler. (d) How much work is the program doing? When there are only small units of work, you should keep in mind that for running Java, there must be set up a JVM first. This is expensive compared to just loading a module. But the more the Java program is doing the less this preparation time is counting. From what you wrote, I assume the program is a little service for a web server. Therefore, I would expect the overhead of starting the JVM as the main factor. Once I was reading very little on reusable JVMs. May be there is something like Java-initiators available. I think the common suspects like Kirk can tell about this. I have learned that fork()'ing in Unix is not so much overhead as expected. Unused BPXAS address spaces are held in idle state for 30 minutes. These will be used by fork() which also is a concept I compare to JES initiators, may be Java has something similar, see above. Therefore I will not share your bet on TSO from this point of view. However, online workload like TSO typically is allowed for a better WLM service class than batch. Cheers Michael John McKown joa...@swbell.net Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 2011-05-18 02:25 Bitte antworten an IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu An IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Kopie Thema SDSF API - REXX or Java? Does anybody know which is more CPU efficient? Functionally equivalent SDSF API code in REXX or in Java? Assume there is no zAAP or zIIP to offload the Java workload. Assume fairly equal programming ability in the person doing the coding (equally medium). Compiling of Java would occur on my desktop using Netbeans as the IDE. REXX would be edited on z/OS using ISPF edit. The code would either run in the HTTP server or in batch (using JZOS for Java; and IKJEFT01 for REXX or maybe even Co:Z to run REXX in a UNIX environment instead of a TSO environment). Secondary question. In general, would using Co:Z's UNIX setup be more efficient, less efficient, or generally equal to IKJEFT01 for running REXX? I guess that might be comparing TSO in batch vs. UNIX in batch. I'd almost bet on TSO due to the overhead of fork()'ing in UNIX. -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
