Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello,
 We are facing issue in TCPIP profile of z/OS 1.7. I am not able to
login into TSO. There is much difference in coding of z/OS 1.7  and z/OS 1.9
profile.Our rest of the system like z/OS 1.9 , z/OS 1.10 etc tcpip are
working fine.

 I tried research to see, if any error occur in TCPIP profile. But I
didnt found anything. My TSO and TCPIP address spaces are running fine.


 Can you please help me to isolate this issue. For reference I am
attaching my z/OS 1.7 tcpip profile and output of D A,L


 - 23.27.09   d a,l
   23.27.09   IEE114I 23.27.09 2011.216 ACTIVITY 922   C
JOBS M/STS USERSSYSASINITS   ACTIVE/MAX VTAM OAS
   4000220  00030000440/00100   00013
LLA  LLA  LLA  NSW  S  VLF  VLF  VLF  NSW  S
NET  NET  VTAM NSW  SO TCPIPTCPIPTCPIPNSW  SO
RMF  RMF  IEFPROC  NSW  S  DLF  DLF  DLF  NSW  S
EPWFFST  FFST EPWFFST  NSW  S  APPC APPC APPC NSW  S
ASCH ASCH ASCH NSW  S  AUTO AAUTO OWT  S
JES2 JES2 IEFPROC  NSW  S  RACF RACF RACF NSW  S
FSWTRTCPFSS   IEFPROC  NSW  S  INETD4   STEP1STCUSER  OWT  AO
CROND5   STEP1STCUSER  OWT  AO NPFQMGR  NPFQMGR  NPFQMGR  OWT  SO
SMTP SMTP SMTP NSW  S  FTPD1STEP1STCUSER  OWT  AO
DFRMMDFRMMIEFPROC  NSW  S  SMC0 SMC0 STEP010  NSW  S
SRVPROC  SRVPROC  SERVER   NSW  SO TSO  TSO  STEP1OWT  S
0   RRS  RRS  RRS  NSW  S  RMFGAT   RMFGAT   IEFPROC  NSW  SO
SSHD4STEP1OMVSKERN OWT  AO GPMSERVE GPMSERVE STEP1NSW  SO

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; PROFILE.TCPIP
; =
; --
;
;
SMFCONFIG TCPINIT TCPTERM
;
; Flush the ARP tables every 5 minutes.
;

ARPAGE 20

KEEPALIVEOPTIONS
INTERVAL 1
ENDKEEPALIVEOPTIONS


TELNETPARMS
PORT 23
INACTIVE 0
TIMEMARK 600
SCANINTERVAL 120
SMFINIT STD
SMFTERM STD
WLMCLUSTERNAME TN3270E ENDWLMCLUSTERNAME
ENDTELNETPARMS

; --
;
; Disable the SNMP agent
;

SACONFIG DISABLE

;
; --
;
;
;
DATASETPREFIX TCPIP
;
; --
;
; Set Telnet time-out to 10 minutes.
;

INTERNALCLIENTPARMS TIMEMARK 600 ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS

;
; ---
;
; Reserve low ports for servers
;

;TCPCONFIGTCPSENDBFRSIZE 64K
TCPCONFIG
 INTERVAL 10
 SENDGARBAGE TRUE
 UNRESTRICTLOWPORTS
 TCPRCVBUFRSIZE 32768
 TCPSENDBFRSIZE 32768
;DPCONFIGRESTRICTLOWPORTS

;
; --
;
; AUTOLOG the following servers.
;

AUTOLOG 5
FTPD JOBNAME FTPD1
;   LPSERVE ; LPD Server
;   NAMESRV ; Domain Name Server
;   NCPROUT ; NCPROUTE Server
NPFQMGR ; Start NPF Que Manager
;   PORTMAP ; PortmaprServer
;   PORTS   ; Network Database System (Port Manager)
;   ROUTED  ; RouteD Server
;   RXSERVE ; Remote Execution Server
SMTP; SMTP Server
;   SNMPD   ; SNMP Agent Server
;   SNMPQE  ; SNMP Client
;   TCPIPX25; X25 Server
;   MVSNFS  ; NetworkrFile System Server
ENDAUTOLOG

; --
;
; Reserve ports for the following servers.
;

PORT
 7 UDP MISCSERV; Miscellaneous Server
 7 TCP MISCSERV
 9 UDP MISCSERV
 9 TCP MISCSERV
19 UDP MISCSERV
19 TCP MISCSERV
20 TCP OMVS  NOAUTOLOG  ; FTP SERVER DATA PORT
21 TCP FTPD1   ; FTP Server control port
23 TCP INTCLIEN; Telnet Server
25 TCP SMTP; SMTP Server
53 TCP NAMESRV ; Domain Name Server
53 UDP NAMESRV ; Domain Name Server
80 TCP OMVS; JDC:  OS/390 HTTP webserver
   111 TCP PORTMAP ; Portmap Server
   111 UDP PORTMAP ; Portmap Server
   135 UDP LLBD; NCS Location Broker
   161 UDP OSNMPD  ; SNMP AGENT
   162 UDP SNMPQE  ; SNMP Query Engine
   443 TCP OMVS; JDC:  OS/390 HTTPS webserver
   512 TCP RXSERVE ; Remote Execution Server
   514 UDP OMVS; OE SYSLOGD SERVER
;515 TCP LPSERVE ; LPD Server
   520 UDP OROUTED ; ROUTED SERVER
   580 UDP NCPROUT ; 

Re: Messages IEF032I/IEF033I replacing IEF374I/IEF376I

2011-08-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
There is an IBM Migrating to z/OS V1.12 handout on the IBM 
Website that is very good at answering this question.

I googled before posting. I saw that but it does not answer my 
question. I don't like multiline messages. They complicates 
automated processing. What is really awkward is the fact that 
the follow-on lines do not have a message id. Makes automated 
processing even more complicated. 
(Yes, I do understand how multiline WTOs work. I always code 
multiple single line WTOs in such cases). 

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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
what error messages are issued when you attempt to logon? 
any indication of the connection being made when you open your mainframe's IP?
need to see all that to have any idea of what happening. 


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 From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com
 Subject: Not able to login to TSO
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 2:27 AM
 Hello,
          We are facing issue
 in TCPIP profile of z/OS 1.7. I am not able to
 login into TSO. There is much difference in coding of z/OS
 1.7  and z/OS 1.9
 profile.Our rest of the system like z/OS 1.9 , z/OS 1.10
 etc tcpip are
 working fine.
 
          I tried research to
 see, if any error occur in TCPIP profile. But I
 didnt found anything. My TSO and TCPIP address spaces are
 running fine.
 
 
          Can you please help
 me to isolate this issue. For reference I am
 attaching my z/OS 1.7 tcpip profile and output of D A,L
 
 
  - 23.27.09           d
 a,l
    23.27.09       
    IEE114I 23.27.09 2011.216 ACTIVITY
 922           
    C
     JOBS     M/S   
 TS USERS    SYSAS   
 INITS   ACTIVE/MAX VTAM 
    OAS
    4    00022   
 0      00030    00044 
   0/00100       00013
     LLA      LLA   
   LLA      NSW  S  VLF 
     VLF      VLF   
   NSW  S
     NET      NET   
   VTAM     NSW  SO TCPIP 
   TCPIP    TCPIP    NSW  SO
     RMF      RMF   
   IEFPROC  NSW  S  DLF   
   DLF      DLF     
 NSW  S
     EPWFFST  FFST 
    EPWFFST  NSW  S  APPC 
    APPC     APPC 
    NSW  S
     ASCH     ASCH 
    ASCH     NSW 
 S  AUTO     A     
   AUTO     OWT  S
     JES2     JES2 
    IEFPROC  NSW  S  RACF 
    RACF     RACF 
    NSW  S
     FSWTR   
 TCPFSS   IEFPROC  NSW  S 
 INETD4   STEP1    STCUSER 
 OWT  AO
     CROND5   STEP1   
 STCUSER  OWT  AO NPFQMGR  NPFQMGR 
 NPFQMGR  OWT  SO
     SMTP     SMTP 
    SMTP     NSW 
 S  FTPD1    STEP1    STCUSER 
 OWT  AO
     DFRMM    DFRMM   
 IEFPROC  NSW  S  SMC0 
    SMC0     STEP010 
 NSW  S
     SRVPROC  SRVPROC 
 SERVER   NSW  SO TSO     
 TSO      STEP1    OWT  S
 0   RRS      RRS   
   RRS      NSW  S 
 RMFGAT   RMFGAT   IEFPROC 
 NSW  SO
     SSHD4    STEP1   
 OMVSKERN OWT  AO GPMSERVE GPMSERVE STEP1   
 NSW  SO
 
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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Michael Klaeschen
are you able to connect to your TN3270 service (I do not see in D A,L 
output, but may be you have different STC name? Or are you doing VTAM 
routing to other MVS -- how is your infrastructure set up?) and just 
cannot log on to TSO? Then, I would assume, your TCPIP is set up correct 
and I suggest checking UADS or TSO segment for the user in question.

Cheers
Michael



Von:saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com
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Hello,
 We are facing issue in TCPIP profile of z/OS 1.7. I am not able 
to
login into TSO. There is much difference in coding of z/OS 1.7  and z/OS 
1.9
profile.Our rest of the system like z/OS 1.9 , z/OS 1.10 etc tcpip are
working fine.

 I tried research to see, if any error occur in TCPIP profile. But 
I
didnt found anything. My TSO and TCPIP address spaces are running fine.


 Can you please help me to isolate this issue. For reference I am
attaching my z/OS 1.7 tcpip profile and output of D A,L


 - 23.27.09   d a,l
   23.27.09   IEE114I 23.27.09 2011.216 ACTIVITY 922 C
JOBS M/STS USERSSYSASINITS   ACTIVE/MAX VTAM OAS
   4000220  00030000440/00100   00013
LLA  LLA  LLA  NSW  S  VLF  VLF  VLF  NSW  S
NET  NET  VTAM NSW  SO TCPIPTCPIPTCPIPNSW  SO
RMF  RMF  IEFPROC  NSW  S  DLF  DLF  DLF  NSW  S
EPWFFST  FFST EPWFFST  NSW  S  APPC APPC APPC NSW  S
ASCH ASCH ASCH NSW  S  AUTO AAUTO OWT  S
JES2 JES2 IEFPROC  NSW  S  RACF RACF RACF NSW  S
FSWTRTCPFSS   IEFPROC  NSW  S  INETD4   STEP1STCUSER  OWT  AO
CROND5   STEP1STCUSER  OWT  AO NPFQMGR  NPFQMGR  NPFQMGR  OWT  SO
SMTP SMTP SMTP NSW  S  FTPD1STEP1STCUSER  OWT  AO
DFRMMDFRMMIEFPROC  NSW  S  SMC0 SMC0 STEP010  NSW  S
SRVPROC  SRVPROC  SERVER   NSW  SO TSO  TSO  STEP1OWT  S
0   RRS  RRS  RRS  NSW  S  RMFGAT   RMFGAT   IEFPROC  NSW  SO
SSHD4STEP1OMVSKERN OWT  AO GPMSERVE GPMSERVE STEP1NSW  SO

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A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread john gilmore
Good news for you!

I found a wonderful website:seicn.com and bought a laptop. How amazing, they 
take 5 days to send to my home.

On their web, they have many products. If you need to buy something, you can go 
to look and check it

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

I would recommend that you *DO NOT* go to that website. And for the curious, I 
certainly am heeding my own advice! :-)

Bob

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Subject: A nice website,go it

Good news for you!

I found a wonderful website:seicn.com and bought a laptop. How amazing, they 
take 5 days to send to my home.

On their web, they have many products. If you need to buy something, you can go 
to look and check it

Thanks

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Shane Ginnane
 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
list server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

Shane ...

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Yes, I also got a private email.

Bob


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Subject: Re: A nice website,go it

 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
list server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

Shane ...

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Re: Group Capacity

2011-08-05 Thread Andy Coburn
snip
Within the same Group Capacity can I include a LPAR which is hardcapped
(traditional PR/SM) rather than via Defined Capacity ?
Manual specifies WLM will dynamically remove such partitions from the group
and manage the remaining partitions towards the group limit. What I'm
curious is if the utilization of the capped LPAR still counts/aggregate
towards the group limit.
/snip

If you remove the LPAR in question from the group then it definitely will
NOT count toward the group limit. If you want it to count, then soft cap it
with a defined capacity of a very large size. It will count toward the group
limit and only the group limit will cause it to be capped.

That said, if you are establishing the group in order to lower software
costs, the uncapped LPAR, not a member of the group, will probably negate
your efforts. 

While you are at it, check to see if INITIAL CAPPING is set for the LPAR in
question. If it is not, then this LPAR is not capped at all as the CP
weights will only take effect when there is contention from other LPARs.
Hence if this LPAR is allowed to consume the entire CEC the WLC pricing will
be affected. This will occur if the other LPARs are not busy or are
inactive.

Andy Coburn

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GDG recall ENQ IEF861I IEF863I IEF099I

2011-08-05 Thread MONTERO ROMERO, ENRIQUE ELOI
Hi team,
 
This time is an HSM question related to a GDG dataset.
 
The problem description :
 
JOBA is recalling of a large dataset from ML2 to DASD. MY.DATASET.(0).
 
JOBB during the JOBA recalling creates a new version of the dataset 
MY.DATASET.(+1)

JOBB waits until the recall from JOBA ends. 
 
Related messages during JOBB running.
 
IEF861I   FOLLOWING RESERVED DATA SET NAMES UNAVAILABLE TO JOBB
IEF863I   DSN=MY.DATASET RC=04
IEF099I   JOB JOBB WAITING FOR DATA SETS

 
Questions :

During a GDG recall, the HSM keep in exclusive mode all versions of the dataset 
and cannot create new versions till tne recall ends?
Is it normal behaviour of the HSM or is there some parameter to avoid this?

Best regards and happy weekend.

Enrique Montero

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Aled Hughes
Had this sort of message sent to me privately several times. They always use 
MSN, Yahoo or Hotmail accounts. This is the first time on this Forum though (to 
my knowledge!). 

Cheers
Aled

 
 







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To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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Subject: Re: A nice website,go it


 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.
Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
ist server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
eader IP looks like China.
Shane ...
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To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2011 11:11 am
Subject: Re: A nice website,go it


 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.
Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
ist server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
eader IP looks like China.
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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Me too.

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: Richards, Robert B. [robert.richa...@opm.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 6:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: A nice website,go it

Yes, I also got a private email.

Bob


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Subject: Re: A nice website,go it

 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
list server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

Shane ...

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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Chris Mason
Michael

 ... but may be you have different STC name? 

Given that the PROFILE data set contains the traditional TELNET statements, 
it's a fair bet that Saurabh is still relying on the integrated implementation 
of the TELNET server function and so will *not* have any separate address 
space. Actually I don't know whether or not it is possible to use both the 
integrated flavour and the separate flavour! Seems unlikely don't you think?

 ... doing VTAM routing to other MVS ...

In principle, routing within an SNA network need not purely be by means of SNA 
nodes running VTAM.

I guess I got into a super-analytical frame of mind when dealing with the 
matter of the separate address space. I would have used the word issue rather 
than matter but these days, with the massive misuse of the word issue I 
dare not! Even trying-to-be-trendy Dave Cameron - Eton-educated no less! - 
managed to get not just his tongue twisted trying to work out in an interview 
whether to use the word issue or problem. This nonsense has reached the 
highest in the land which thought it *owned* the language!
 
Chris Mason

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:39:35 +0200, Michael Klaeschen 
michael.klaesc...@deutscherring.de wrote:

are you able to connect to your TN3270 service (I do not see in D A,L
output, but may be you have different STC name? Or are you doing VTAM
routing to other MVS -- how is your infrastructure set up?) and just
cannot log on to TSO? Then, I would assume, your TCPIP is set up correct
and I suggest checking UADS or TSO segment for the user in question.

Cheers
Michael

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Spam

2011-08-05 Thread Shane Ginnane
My ISP just harvested some junk (supposedly) from John G - a vacation reply.
Never had similar (from John).

Let's hope he hasn't been using Internet Cafe(s) in B#283;ij#299;ng.

Shane ...

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Re: Spam

2011-08-05 Thread Shane Ginnane
Sorry - that would be Beijing in plain text.

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Richards, Robert B. wrote:

Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Yup, and he is not the first IBM-MAIN member whose email address has been 
hijacked.

I was very suspicious of that mail, because there is not the usual signature 
line with his name, place and phone number. That mail, which was also sent 
privately to me, also contains somewhat bad grammer. If you know John, you also 
know that he is very good at writing skills.

I would recommend that you *DO NOT* go to that website. And for the curious, I 
certainly am heeding my own advice! :-)

What website? ;-D 
And yes, I already have a laptop and I'm pretty sure I'm now working on it ... 
;-D

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: GDG recall ENQ IEF861I IEF863I IEF099I

2011-08-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
 
 Questions :
 
 During a GDG recall, the HSM keep in exclusive mode all versions of the
dataset and
 cannot create new versions till tne recall ends?
 Is it normal behaviour of the HSM or is there some parameter to avoid
this?
 
 Best regards and happy weekend.
 
 Enrique Montero


It is normal behavior for a GDG in general.

The enq is placed on the GDG base not the individual GDG entry.  So if any
long running job is creating a GDG +1, it will be the base name that is
enqueued.  

I do not know if IBM was ever asked to address this concern.


Lizette

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Re: Spam

2011-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shane Ginnane wrote:

Sorry - that would be Beijing in plain text.

For three and half nanoseconds I was thinking you're trying mixing English and 
Mandarin languages... :-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Hardee, Charles H
I received it thru the list.
Haven't received one privately, yet.


Charles Hardee
CA technologies
Sr Sustaining Engineer
Tel:  +1-952-838-1039
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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: A nice website,go it

 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
list server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

Shane ...

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread McKown, John
I guess my complaining __is__ becoming tiresome. I'll try to stop. At least we 
still have a z.

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:25 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: assembler help!
 
 I can't help you with that question, since I don't use C 
 myself.  I just
 thought it was interesting that you keep complaining about 
 not having a C
 compiler due to funds, yet there is a free one out there.  I 
 thought I saw
 some messages recently talking about it being relatively up to date.
 
 On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:17 PM, McKown, John
 john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote:
 
  I'm too stupid to figure out how to install it. But that 
 was a few years
  ago. It the z/OS version maintained? Or is it like other 
 GNU software that
  gets on z/OS - out of date and not actively kept in sync 
 with the Linux
  version.
 
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   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
   [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe
   Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:10 PM
   To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
   Subject: Re: assembler help!
  
   John,
  
   Why not use GCC?
  
   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM, McKown, John
   john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote:
  
But not at a cost of $0.00. We're still in lock down
   mode. We seem to be
doing better as a company, but there is still a push to
   keep costs at a
minimum. Some day, I may look at relicensing your C, C++,
   and assembler for
my home Linux system to do cross-compiles. I had them
   licensed some years
ago, but medical expenses and the death of my mother
   totally destroyed my
disposable income. Most of my joy of programming is now
   done on Linux
using gratis tools. This is reinforced by the constant
   pressure here to not
use the mainframe unnecessarily.
   
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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas David Rivers
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:32 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: assembler help!

 McKown, John wrote:

 NO Why? Because we're too cheap to license the C
 compiler. We do have HLASM. Now, if they want to make the
 C/C++ come for free, I'd jump for joy. We had a license at
 one time. But a manager who was struggling to save his job
 decided that eliminating all non-critical software was the
 way to go. So the C license went. Followed shortly thereafter
 by the manager.
 
 
 

 I think we could help you with that...

  - 

Re: Spam

2011-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shane Ginnane wrote:

My ISP just harvested some junk (supposedly) from John G - a vacation reply.

I also got that one too. That one came from 'snt0-omc4-s4.snt0.hotmail.com' 
located in USA despite trying to fake a msn address. 

Hmm, I need a vacation from all those spam, spam and more spam ... ;-D

Groete / Greetings
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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread McKown, John
I would probably really like PL/X. I adored PL/I in school.

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore
 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 5:15 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: assembler help!
 
 It is clear from this and other examples we have seen here 
 that 1) the assembly-language sklls of most installation 
 sysprogs under 50 are rudimentary 2) IBM's maintenance of the 
 HLASM interfaces to system services has low priority and is 
 deteriorating, chiefly because the PL/X interfaces are the 
 ones that its own programmers use.
  
 I should like to see 1) exit samples written in PL/X and 2) 
 release of the PL/X translator for customer and ISV use in 
 writing exits and the like.  
 
 John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA   
 
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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Hardee, Charles H
And, as the song goes... And then you go and spoil it all by saying something 
stupid like,. You can probably guess the rest of the new lyrics.
Yes, I just received the vacation spam email privately. Coincidence or what?

Anyway, you wanted to know Shane. Good luck in figuring it out.

Charles Hardee
CA technologies
Sr Sustaining Engineer
Tel:  +1-952-838-1039
charles.har...@ca.com



-Original Message-
From: Hardee, Charles H 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:06 AM
To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A nice website,go it

I received it thru the list.
Haven't received one privately, yet.


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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Shane Ginnane
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 5:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: A nice website,go it

 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
list server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

Shane ...

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2d14e7856646224aacdda13ab1d3555715e5b9b...@wdcv7exvs2.opm.gov, on
08/05/2011
   at 05:39 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov said:

Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

My first thought was that it was a forgery, but the Received: and
Message-ID lines suggest that it really did come from his machine.
OTOH, the originating IP address was on MSN rather than Verizon, which
could indicate forgery.
 
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Re: Not able to Access OMVS

2011-08-05 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of saurabh khandelwal
 
 Hello,
   I am not able to login to OMVS. I am getting below error.
 
 Function = chdir(), directory name = '/u/tec1008', return value = -1,
errno
 = 12
 9 (X'0081'), reason code = 05190050, message = 'EDC5129I No such
file or
 dir
 ectory.'
 
   FSUM2331 The session has ended.  Press Enter to end OMVS.
 
 RUNNING
 
 
 The end of the session was not recorded.  The proper location for
recording
 cou
 d not be found.+
 Function = getutxline(), terminal name = 'ttyp0001', user name =
TEC1008,
 retur
  value = 0
 ***
 
 But I checked my OMVS segment in RACF,. /u/tec1008 is defined for me.
 
 
 OMVS INFORMATION
 
 UID= 00
 HOME= /u/tec1008
 PROGRAM= /bin/sh
 CPUTIMEMAX= NONE
 ASSIZEMAX= NONE
 FILEPROCMAX= NONE
 PROCUSERMAX= NONE
 THREADSMAX= NONE
 MMAPAREAMAX= NONE
 
 Can you help me to resolve this issue.

It appears that either you have not created the directory /u/tec1008 in
your currently-mounted OMVS file system, or the file system that
contains the directory /u/tec1008 is not mounted.

-jc-

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
What is your email address Rick?  Another person has looked at my code and is 
being very helpful, but I still don't get what I want when I run a multi step 
job...  Comparing mine to yours might help..

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Office of Technology Data Center
1900 Kanawha Blvd East
Charleston, WV  25305
(304)558-5914 ext 58292
(304)558-1441 fax


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Rick Fochtman
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: assembler help!

--snip---

In our IEFACTRT (accounting exit), an assembler program, it has the following 
commands:

L R2,PARMJOBC
  

 R2 now contains PARMJOBC, 
X'0008'

ICM   R1,7,0(R2)
  

   R1 now contains 
X'..zz', where .. are the origincal contents of R1 and zz are 
the contents of storage location X'0008'

If PARMJOBC contains a binary integer length of 4 with 00 00 00 08, what ends 
up in all bits of R1?  I am trying to add additional values to what is in R1 
by doing:

MVC   WK1(4),SMF30CPS
A R1,WK1

This is not doing what I want it to do! If SMF30CPS, also a binary integer 
length of 4, has 00 00 00 01,  what ends up in R1?
  

 R1 now contains God only knows 
what.

Shoot me an Assembler listing of the source code (ZIP'ped) and I'll take 
a look at it. I suspect I know what's wrong but don't want to clutter 
the list with a long drawn-out explanation.

Rick

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Re: Spam

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4702673754796316.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu, on
08/05/2011
   at 06:59 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:

I also got that one too. That one came from
'snt0-omc4-s4.snt0.hotmail.com' located in USA despite trying to fake
a msn address. 

The legitimate messages also went through hotmail. However, compare
the originating IP addresses; [108.20.159.218] is verizon while
[65.55.90.239] is microsoft.
 
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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas
 
 [ snip ]
 
 By the way ... if anyone of us had to have brain or heart surgery ..
would we
 want one that learnt how to perform surgery with JAVA simulations ??.
By that,
 I mean this as a reference to 'Rapid Development' and 'Point And
Click' IDE's
 which has taken over the data processing and even, engineering world.

My favorite analogue for this is to point to the differences between the
venerable SR-71 Blackbird, which was substantially designed with pencil,
paper and slide rule, and modern high-performance military jets
designed with point 'n' click CAD/CAM systems.  There has been nothing
built since the SR-71 that can compete with its raw speed and altitude
capabilities, and likely there never will be (but for political rather
than scientific reasons).  Allegedly, a prime consideration for Boeing's
scuttling of its Supersonic Transport (SST) project back in the 1960s
was a conclusion by some pseudo-scientists that sonic booms cause
cancer.  Thus was the Concorde left without competition, and restricted
to supersonic flight only over the open ocean (whose inhabitants,
apparently, are immune to cancer and/or sonic booms).

-jc-

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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Chris Mason
Saurabh

At first I suspected that you had changed your release of z/OS from one where 
the traditional TELNET (which incorporates 3270 capability) can run in the main 
Communications Server (CS) IP address space to the one where it *must* run in a 
separate address space - but not so. That change is imposed from V1R9 - 
although you could already be running traditional TELNET in its own address 
space in V1R7, a migration aid very kindly provided by the IBM CS developers. I 
see from your PROFILE data set that you are in fact running your traditional 
TELNET integrated with the main CS IP address space as it has been since the 
dawn of TCP/IP for VM and TCP/IP for MVS.

 We are facing issue ...

Incidentally, since you are not able to do something you expected to be able to 
do, what you are facing is a *problem* not one of these trendy misuses of the 
word issue - for the sake of all that is holy. This is just one more issue, 
the word used correctly, which mitigates my low blood pressure problem, the 
word used correctly, a problem because I have a tendency to faint when 
standing up if I'm insufficiently riled!

Logging onto TSO by means of TELNET, specifically TELNET client and server 
instances which employ TN3270, or usually these days, TN3270E protocols, 
involves many components. That being so, as Cris Hernandez requested, we need 
to have the details of the failed attempt finally to log on to TSO.

A. Did the TN3270 client establish a TN3270 TCP connection over the IP network 
to the TN3270 server?

B. What evidence is there that this succeeded? Is there an USS[1] message 10 
from your customised USS table USSYSA7 being displayed?

C. If the USS message 10 is displayed, what happens when the USS command for 
the purpose of logging on to TSO is entered and there is an attempt to initiate 
an SNA session between the traditional TELNET server function and the TSO 
application? There may be some VTAM messages which appeared at this time.

D. If the TSO logon panel is displayed, is there a failure to be able to enter 
the right information to be able to progress?

I'm happy to try to help you out with A, B and C but probably not so much D. On 
the other hand there is a wealth of  expertise in the IBM-MAIN list who will no 
doubt be able to compensate for my not knowing how to guide you through that 
last potential barrier.

But, talking of expertise in lists, the best list to deal with points A, B and 
C is actually IBMTCP-L, accessed as follows:

For IBMTCP-L subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to 
lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO IBMTCP-L

As a matter of interest, what is the purpose in your mentioning z/OS V1R9 and 
V1R10? Possible relevance to the topic you have raised here is that, in those 
releases, the traditional TELNET function must run in a separate address space 
but this has no significance I can see for your current problem with your V1R7 
system which evidently from your PROFILE data set is running an integrated 
traditional TELNET function.

A final point: one thing that needs to be checked is that the TELNET server 
function really is the one you indicate with the PROFILE data set you posted. 
There are other ways to support a TELNET server, one of which is an OSA feature 
running the ICC function. Just to be sure, you should assure us that you have 
checked that the TELNET configuration with which you are having a difficulty is 
the one you think it is.


-

[1] There are very many people in this list who misuse the term USS when they 
should be using the term z/OS UNIX or z/UNIX. I divide people into those who 
deliberately misuse the term, the conceited idiots, and those who are misled by 
the perpetual misuse by conceited idiots who should know better and are beyond 
the reach of reason. Those misled of course tend to be those who have recently 
become involved with z/OS who should be being assisted in their understanding 
of this complex topic but who are treated with disdain by the conceited idiots.

For example, in trying to solve this problem, you may well be trying to examine 
the role of the USS table, its commands and messages, in trying to resolve your 
problem. You may well have become thoroughly confused over how this relates in 
any way with what you think you have learned is to what USS might refer, 
namely, and quite falsely, z/OS UNIX System Services. The conceited idiots are 
too thick to get their puny brains round this particular problem - or is that 
also an issue?

-

Chris Mason

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:57:42 +0530, saurabh khandelwal 
sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,
 We are facing issue in TCPIP profile of z/OS 1.7. I am not able to
login into TSO. There is much difference in coding of z/OS 1.7  and z/OS 1.9
profile.Our rest of the system like z/OS 1.9 , z/OS 1.10 etc tcpip are
working fine.

 I tried research to see, if any error occur in TCPIP profile. But I
didnt found anything. My TSO and 

Re: Spam

2011-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

The legitimate messages also went through hotmail. However, compare the 
originating IP addresses; [108.20.159.218] is verizon while [65.55.90.239] is 
microsoft.

Before I posted, I have traced only that domain name ending with hotmail. I 
initially did not bother to trace the 2 IP addresses.

Anyway I got the same results for these 2 IP addresses with www.dnsstuff.com. 
Thanks for confirming. It is much appreciated.

What are you using to do tracing, if I may ask, please?

Groete / Greetings
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Re: GDG recall ENQ IEF861I IEF863I IEF099I

2011-08-05 Thread McKown, John
I think it only happens when you are using relative GDG numbers such as GDG(0) 
or GDG(-1). If you hard code the goovoo like GDG.G0001V00, then only that 
generation is enqueued.

John McKown 

Systems Engineer IV

IT

 

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 6:49 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: GDG recall ENQ IEF861I IEF863I IEF099I
 
  
  Questions :
  
  During a GDG recall, the HSM keep in exclusive mode all 
 versions of the
 dataset and
  cannot create new versions till tne recall ends?
  Is it normal behaviour of the HSM or is there some 
 parameter to avoid
 this?
  
  Best regards and happy weekend.
  
  Enrique Montero
 
 
 It is normal behavior for a GDG in general.
 
 The enq is placed on the GDG base not the individual GDG 
 entry.  So if any
 long running job is creating a GDG +1, it will be the base 
 name that is
 enqueued.  
 
 I do not know if IBM was ever asked to address this concern.
 
 
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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of john gilmore
 
 Good news for you!
 
 I found a wonderful website:seicn.com and bought a laptop. How
amazing, they take 5 days to send to my
 home.
 
 On their web, they have many products. If you need to buy something,
you can go to look and check it
 
 Thanks

I do believe this is the most obvious forgery we've ever seen here.

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, Aug 5th, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Chase, John wrote:

 Thus was the Concorde left without competition, and restricted
 to supersonic flight only over the open ocean (whose inhabitants,
 apparently, are immune to cancer and/or sonic booms).

Not quite.
It also flew flat out over outback Australia. No doubt those more hardy
souls that could survive such rigours were also impervious to the Concordes
adverse impacts.

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Chase, John wrote:
Allegedly, a prime consideration for Boeing's scuttling of its Supersonic 
Transport (SST) project back in the 1960s was a conclusion by some 
pseudo-scientists that sonic booms cause cancer.

Hehehehe... LMAO... these 'pseudo-scientists' must be bored or spooked... :-D

Sonic booms are just sound waves... Hmmm, perhaps we should not go farting 
because someone may get cancer in their noses... :-D;-D 8-D;-D

Groete / Greetings
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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Chris Mason
Charles and probably everyone who ever posted anything on IBM-MAIN

I heard it on the grapevine that there is a risk when opening an e-mail which 
you suspect may not be pukka of suffering the fate of those who trusted in 
Greek gifts. As a consequence - and thanks for a warning I half-noticed 
scanning the posts using this new cursor-hover-browse function - I became 
suspicious of an e-mail ostensibly from John and adopted what I hope is a 
defensive technique for taking a look at such an e-mail.

Rather than *open* the e-mail I right-click and go to Properties-Detail and so 
on in order to look it over. My suspicions were then thoroughly aroused by the 
fact that I was presented with gobbledygook, continuous hex characters - with 
an intended double-entendre.

As a matter of some interest, am I right with this defensive play?

Chris Mason

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:14:46 -0400, Hardee, Charles H charles.har...@ca.com 
wrote:

And, as the song goes... And then you go and spoil it all by saying something 
stupid like,. You can probably guess the rest of the new lyrics.
Yes, I just received the vacation spam email privately. Coincidence or what?

Anyway, you wanted to know Shane. Good luck in figuring it out.

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-Original Message-
From: Hardee, Charles H
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:06 AM
To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A nice website,go it

I received it thru the list.
Haven't received one privately, yet.


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Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 5:11 AM
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Subject: Re: A nice website,go it

 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
list server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

Shane ...

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Received 5 of these. However, the spam filter caught them all! 



snip
I received it thru the list.
Haven't received one privately, yet.
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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Lim Ming Liang

Hi Chuck !
Regards Lim ML

On 05/08/11 8:05 PM, Hardee, Charles H wrote:

I received it thru the list.
Haven't received one privately, yet.


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Subject: Re: A nice website,go it


Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
list server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

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I certainly was hacked

2011-08-05 Thread john gilmore
The whole operation was very clever.  Two booby traps that I was apparently 
expected to find were backed up by a third; and I suspect that there is a 
trapdoor I have not yet found.  
 
I'm installing a new non-MS operating system, etc., on my internet machine.  
Hopefully that will do the trick, but someone masquerading as me may continue 
to be a nuisance for a few days.
 
My apologies to all of you! 

John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA 
  
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Thank you to all who responded to replace casort with dfsort ?

2011-08-05 Thread Kurt Eastwood
Thank you to all who responded to replace casort with dfsort ?

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Re: I certainly was hacked

2011-08-05 Thread McKown, John
Mac OSX? Linux (which distro)? One of the BSDs? I have a Mac Mini at home 
running Snow Leopard. I also have 3 laptops and 2 desktops running Fedora 
(RedHat) Linux. And a Motorola XOOM tablet running Android Honeycomb.

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 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore
 Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 8:42 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: I certainly was hacked
 
 The whole operation was very clever.  Two booby traps that I 
 was apparently expected to find were backed up by a third; 
 and I suspect that there is a trapdoor I have not yet found.  
  
 I'm installing a new non-MS operating system, etc., on my 
 internet machine.  Hopefully that will do the trick, but 
 someone masquerading as me may continue to be a nuisance for 
 a few days.
  
 My apologies to all of you! 
 
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Question about network usage

2011-08-05 Thread Kurt Eastwood
Hello,
 
We have a pretty basic system here. No network tools other than basic stuff 
provided by IBM.
 
Does anyone know of a way, with IBM supplied software, etc, to determine 
network utilization, statistics, etc flowing through our OSA cards?
 
Thanks for any help you can provide,
Kurt
 

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Re: I certainly was hacked

2011-08-05 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, Aug 5th, 2011 at 11:41 PM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com wrote:

 The whole operation was very clever.  Two booby traps that I was
 apparently expected to find were backed up by a third; and I suspect that
 there is a trapdoor I have not yet found.  
  
 I'm installing a new non-MS operating system, etc., on my internet
 machine.  Hopefully that will do the trick, but someone masquerading as me
 may continue to be a nuisance for a few days.
  
 My apologies to all of you! 

John you may wish to forward this to the assembler list as well.
You are in review status over there due to incidents about a week ago (if you
aren't aware).

Shane ...

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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:35:47 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)wrote:

I believe that he wants the DWIWHMHIUWIWTA macro.

Is that something like do what I would have meant had I understood 
what I wanted to accomplish?

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Re: I certainly was hacked

2011-08-05 Thread J. D. Cassidy
Was the MS in capitals intentional?


= The whole operation was very clever.  Two booby traps that I was
= apparently expected to find were backed up by a third; and I suspect that
= there is a trapdoor I have not yet found.
=
= I'm installing a new non-MS operating system, etc., on my internet
= machine.  Hopefully that will do the trick, but someone masquerading as me
= may continue to be a nuisance for a few days.
=
= My apologies to all of you!
=
= John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA
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Re: Not able to Access OMVS

2011-08-05 Thread Don Imbriale
Messages can be useful.  In this case, the message clearly stated what the
problem was.  If you had looked up the message or investigated what it
indicated the error was, rather than posting here, you might have been able
to solve the problem yourself.

In general, when an error message is issued, go look up that message.  Read
the explanation carefully and try to follow the recommended actions.  If you
can't find the message or it is unclear or the action does not work, then
others may be able to help.

Access to message manuals is key to doing the job effectively.  Whether you
use QuickRef or BookManager or LookAt or IBM's web site or a DVD or a
disk-based copy of the manuals, they should be the first place to go.
Reading the message can help you understand better how things work.  This is
important to help build your skill set.

- Don Imbriale

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:40 PM, saurabh khandelwal 
sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, There was a problem with directory. someone by mistake has deleted it
 .

 So because of this I got this error. Thanks every one to help me .

 Regards
 Saurabh

 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:57 AM, George, Kevin A kevin.geo...@opm.gov
 wrote:

  You need to have a directory in the /u named tec1008. Normally this is
 done
  using automount and a ZFS for your file system.
 
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  Subject: Not able to Access OMVS
 
  Hello,
   I am not able to login to OMVS. I am getting below error.
 
  Function = chdir(), directory name = '/u/tec1008', return value = -1,
 errno
  = 12
  9 (X'0081'), reason code = 05190050, message = 'EDC5129I No such file
  or
  dir
  ectory.'
 
FSUM2331 The session has ended.  Press Enter to end OMVS.
 
  RUNNING
 
 
  The end of the session was not recorded.  The proper location for
 recording
  cou
  d not be found.+
  Function = getutxline(), terminal name = 'ttyp0001', user name = TEC1008,
  retur
   value = 0
  ***
 
  But I checked my OMVS segment in RACF,. /u/tec1008 is defined for me.
 
 
  OMVS INFORMATION
  
  UID= 00
  HOME= /u/tec1008
  PROGRAM= /bin/sh
  CPUTIMEMAX= NONE
  ASSIZEMAX= NONE
  FILEPROCMAX= NONE
  PROCUSERMAX= NONE
  THREADSMAX= NONE
  MMAPAREAMAX= NONE
 
  Can you help me to resolve this issue.
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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Bill Fairchild
John,

I received another spam with your name and email address directing me to some 
url yesterday.

Bill Fairchild

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Subject: assembler help!

It is clear from this and other examples we have seen here that 1) the 
assembly-language sklls of most installation sysprogs under 50 are rudimentary 
2) IBM's maintenance of the HLASM interfaces to system services has low 
priority and is deteriorating, chiefly because the PL/X interfaces are the ones 
that its own programmers use.
 
I should like to see 1) exit samples written in PL/X and 2) release of the PL/X 
translator for customer and ISV use in writing exits and the like.  

John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA 
  
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Anyone running cascaded Metro/Global Mirror?

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Ambros
We're being told that we are not going to see consistency groups formed on 
the GM side while we run MM until we suspend MM at which point we get one 
consistency group formed and can flash to our recovery volumes at the 
remote site.  This is inconsistent with the DS8000 Copy Services 
documentation section 30.2 if I read that correctly.  Can anyone confirm 
or deny the 'no consistency group while Metro Mirror running', how shall 
we phrase this delicately, hypothesis? 

Thanks... 

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 8/4/2011 3:14 PM, john gilmore wrote:

It is clear from this and other examples we have seen here that 1) the 
assembly-language sklls of most installation sysprogs under 50 are rudimentary 
2) IBM's maintenance of the HLASM interfaces to system services has low 
priority and is deteriorating, chiefly because the PL/X interfaces are the ones 
that its own programmers use.

I should like to see 1) exit samples written in PL/X and 2) release of the PL/X 
translator for customer and ISV use in writing exits and the like.


IBM did actually release PL/X (or maybe it was called PL/370 back then?) to ISVs 
many years ago. Perhaps some customers had it as well. Unfortunately, that fight 
ended with a loss for our side. :-(


METAL C is new and seems to be IBM's strategic direction for making HLASM-based 
system services consumable by a compiled language.


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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-08-05 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 
 On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:35:47 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)wrote:
 
 I believe that he wants the DWIWHMHIUWIWTA macro.
 
 Is that something like do what I would have meant had I understood
 what I wanted to accomplish?

Precisely.  :-)

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Re: Question about network usage

2011-08-05 Thread Chris Mason
Kurt

The best forum for this sort of topic is IBMTCP-L:

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You should turn to Open Systems Adapter-Express Customer's Guide and Reference 
manual, 2.2 Chapter 10. Problem Determination Aids, 2.2.3 Performance Data:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IOA2Z180/2.2.3

The two tools are OSA/SF and RMF. I'm not sure whether or not these are at no 
additional cost. I'm not an actual user of products.

I know it's odd that the description is found under Problem Determination 
but, although the manual is written in English, you need to put yourself inside 
a Frenchman's head in order to stand a chance of understanding the structure.

Chris Mason

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:04:13 -0700, Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello,
 
We have a pretty basic system here. No network tools other than basic stuff 
provided by IBM.
 
Does anyone know of a way, with IBM supplied software, etc, to determine 
network utilization, statistics, etc flowing through our OSA cards?
 
Thanks for any help you can provide,
Kurt

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Re: GDG recall ENQ IEF861I IEF863I IEF099I

2011-08-05 Thread Joel C. Ewing

On 08/05/2011 06:49 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote:


Questions :

During a GDG recall, the HSM keep in exclusive mode all versions of the

dataset and

cannot create new versions till tne recall ends?
Is it normal behaviour of the HSM or is there some parameter to avoid

this?

Best regards and happy weekend.
Enrique Montero



It is normal behavior for a GDG in general.

The enq is placed on the GDG base not the individual GDG entry.  So if any
long running job is creating a GDG +1, it will be the base name that is
enqueued.

I do not know if IBM was ever asked to address this concern.
Lizette

IBM would have to be very careful how they touched this code, as there 
are risks a change might cause more problems than it solved.  I believe 
both GDG base and GDS enqueues are involved in a relative GDG reference, 
but there are specific conventions about order and type of enqueue.


The GDG base enqueue is what protects against two concurrent new GDS 
creations by two unrelated programs in order to guarantee consistent 
assignment of GV00 ordinals and consistent cataloging of new 
generations, including the case where a step ABEND results in subsequent 
deletion of the GDS. It also protects against resolving a GDG relative 
generation reference at times when the generations are in transition. 
Having two tasks with conflicting GDS creations running at the same time 
is potentially a scheduling/application-design error as there is no 
guarantee which process gets the GDG enqueue first, so from the end 
user's viewpoint the process may appear non-deterministic, even though 
it is deterministic and consistent from the view of MVS.


A DFHSM recall of a GDS is physically updating the GDS by moving it, 
even though the job step intent may be to read, so this muddles the 
waters as to what kind of enqueues may be required and appropriate.  As 
long as the GDS can't be deleted by the step doing the recall, there 
shouldn't be any need to modify the GDG base itself so a GDG base 
enqueue might seem unneeded; but what might happen if some other process 
attempted to delete the GDS by relative generation number while the 
recall was in progress?


It used to be there were some methods of getting access to a GDS, like 
ISPF browse or JCL reference by specific GV00 number, that bypassed 
any enqueue on the GDG base and only enqueued the GDS; and that in some 
cases this could blow away (ABEND) a batch job step trying to access the 
same GDG family by relative generation: the relative GDG JCL/batch 
allocation logic assumed/required that the proper GDG base enqueue 
preceded the GDS enqueue and it couldn't tolerate an enqueue failure on 
the GDS that it knew should have worked after enqueueing the base. 
So, failure to enqueue the GDG base at all or using enqueues that are 
inconsistent with existing GDG enqueue conventions has introduced 
problems in the past.  This is not to say change is impossible or 
undesirable, only that finding and fixing unintended side effects may 
not be trivial.  This is in an area where omitted GDG base enqueues in 
the past have produced production batch ABENDs.


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Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Would anyone know what is causing the error below?
I am trying to researchit  but I am not very familiar with Netview internals 
and parameters and need a fast solution.
The RACF group says that nothing was changed on this lpar and the Netview 
programmer is not sure about
any changes to security.
I think that the error started happening when we went to  Netview 5.4 from 
either 5.3 or 5.2
The clist named NEWCOPYR is invoked from userid  0018 via a job stream 
issuing commands from a program (via  svc 34).
The user is not authorized to issue any MVS commands directly but has always 
been allowed to invoke clists
(via * for automation Netview) from the program.

The NEWCOPYR clist routes the commands to an autoperator (DPCINTAA)  for 
processing -
The ROUTE and other commands have always run under the auto-operator's id which 
has authority to issue them -
now they are  trying to be run under the invoking users id (0018).

Is there some parameter in Netview to control this so that the commands just 
run under the userid of the Netview operator and
 not the invoking user?

   Thanks list

JOB23281 0290  *NEWCOPYR CICSSAP3 FINRPAD D NO DOFD N N N NN RMD
10:25:54.47 DPCINTAA 0290  ROUTE DOFD,F CICSSAP3,CWTO NEWCOPY01: NEWCOPY
   USERID 0018
10:25:54.47 DPCINTAA 0090  IEE345I ROUTEAUTHORITY INVALID, FAILED BY
10:25:54.47  0090  ICH408I USER(0018 ) GROUP(XXD00   ) NAME(A
 041 0090MVS.ROUTE.CMD.DOFD CL(OPERCMDS)
 041 0090INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
 041 0090FROM MVS.** (G)
 041 0090ACCESS INTENT(READ   )  ACCESS ALLOWED(NONE

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Bill Fairchild
I received one copy via IBM-MAIN and another copy via my AOL account.

Bill Fairchild

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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: A nice website,go it

 Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.

Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the list 
server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
Thank you everyone for all the help/suggestions on this.  Sorry about my 
wording of the original post.  It was misleading.  I am on the right track now 
thanks to the list, especially to Dave Kreiss!  He very patiently explained 
some things to me and showed me what to do in the exit.

I have ordered a couple assembler manuals because there is probably no chance 
of being able to justify a class.  This is really the only program I've had to 
deal with that is in assembler.  Each time I have to touch it, it is a struggle 
due to all the time that has passed.

Again, thanks to all of you for your patience.

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Office of Technology Data Center
1900 Kanawha Blvd East
Charleston, WV  25305
(304)558-5914 ext 58292
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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:42 PM
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Subject: Re: assembler help!

--snip--
I realize I'm not asking the smartest questions... PARMJOBC is an 
address and at that address is the value 0008 (I think). To be 
honest, I can't even figure out where it is getting PARMJOBC. I'm basing 
the assumption on the SMF record I dumped for the job that I ran that 
uses the exit.

If anyone is using IEFACTRT to do chargeback and is using multiple SMF30 
cpu type fields in the calculation(ie. SMF30ICU, SMF30IIP, 
SMF30_TIME_ON_IFA, etc...) I'd love to see how you did it. The 
production version only looks at SMF30CPT for job cpu time and I need to 
add in all the other CPU fields!
unsnip--
I'll send you a ZIP'ped copy of mine.

Rick

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
f255efe0ecf08c4a9c1db6aff423541715fbf...@ch2wpmail1.na.ds.ussco.com,
on 08/05/2011
   at 08:01 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said:

I do believe this is the most obvious forgery we've ever seen here.

How so? The headers were a good match for legitimate messages, other
than originating IP.
 
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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4e3bff54.3050...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 08/05/2011
   at 07:33 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said:

IBM did actually release PL/X (or maybe it was called PL/370 back
then?) 

No:
 BSL
 PL/S (two versions)
 PL/8
 PL/AS
 PL/X

There was a PL/360, but that was a crude assembler with
sort-of-kind-of Algol syntax and not from IBM. I think that there was
another PL/* compiler in the sequence, but it wasn't PL/370.
 
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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
f255efe0ecf08c4a9c1db6aff423541715fbf...@ch2wpmail1.na.ds.ussco.com,
on 08/05/2011
   at 07:46 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said:

Allegedly, a prime consideration for Boeing's scuttling of its 
Supersonic Transport (SST) project back in the 1960s was a 
conclusion by some pseudo-scientists that sonic booms cause
cancer.

I've never seen such a claim. What the media reported was that it was
cancelled because the sonic boom caused noise above the legal
threshold. What was egregious was that they allowed the discorde to
violate those standards.
 
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Re: CORRUPT PDS - I/O ERROR

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2058724295111982.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@bama.ua.edu, on
08/05/2011
   at 09:07 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com said:

Is that something like do what I would have meant had I understood 
what I wanted to accomplish?

Exactly.
 
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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Veilleux, Jon L

rom: Veilleux, Jon L 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:38 AM
To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'
Subject: RE: assembler help!

There are some free online tutorials if you have the time to work with them. 
Just as an example there is http://www.mainframecoder.com/ You can also try 
signing up at the IBM Academic Initiative site.
Good Luck!
Jon

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Re: Spam

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0407320875097141.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu, on
08/05/2011
   at 07:56 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:

What are you using to do tracing, if I may ask, please?

I'm using a modified version of BWwhois[1] to do lookups. I've also
got a RYO utility[2] that scans the entire e-mail and looks up all of
the relevant names and addresses for use in reporting the spam.

[1] The unmodified version is at http://whois.bw.org/

[2] The stable version is at
http://www.medwayhosting.com/spam-l/deobfuscation-by-Shmuel/index.html
 
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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
A826B9FD78356242A9D9595912F9B2323A4690FA88@DOITTMAIL03.doitt.nycnet,
on 08/05/2011
   at 11:03 AM, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov said:

Would anyone know what is causing the error below?

Yes; the cause listed in the RACF message manual.

The RACF group says that nothing was changed on this lpar and the
Netview programmer is not sure about any changes to security.

Ask the RACF group to check DPCINTAA's access to MVS.ROUTE.CMD.DOFD
CL(OPERCMDS) on both systems.

The user is not authorized to issue any MVS commands directly but
has always been allowed to invoke clists

The clist shouldn't be able to do anything that the user isn't allowed
to do.
 
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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
We do not want the give the user access to issue MVS commands -
That is not the way this worked.
The clist does specific functions which the user cannot do directly with MVS 
commands.

Netview 5.4 is doing security checking against the invoking userid which it did 
not do before.
We need a way to stop it from doing so.


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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Netview security problem

In
A826B9FD78356242A9D9595912F9B2323A4690FA88@DOITTMAIL03.doitt.nycnet,
on 08/05/2011
   at 11:03 AM, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov said:

Would anyone know what is causing the error below?

Yes; the cause listed in the RACF message manual.

The RACF group says that nothing was changed on this lpar and the
Netview programmer is not sure about any changes to security.

Ask the RACF group to check DPCINTAA's access to MVS.ROUTE.CMD.DOFD
CL(OPERCMDS) on both systems.

The user is not authorized to issue any MVS commands directly but
has always been allowed to invoke clists

The clist shouldn't be able to do anything that the user isn't allowed
to do.
 
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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Lloyd Fuller
Actually it was canceled because Nixon refused to subside it any longer.  
Boeing 
(and I believe Lockheed or someone else) were getting federal subsidies to help 
pay for the development work.  In 1973 or 1974, Nixon made the decision to stop 
the money flow.

Part of the excuses was about the sonic booms, but the actual reason was the 
money.

Lloyd 



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Sent: Fri, August 5, 2011 11:28:46 AM
Subject: Re: assembler help!

In
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on 08/05/2011
   at 07:46 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said:

Allegedly, a prime consideration for Boeing's scuttling of its 
Supersonic Transport (SST) project back in the 1960s was a 
conclusion by some pseudo-scientists that sonic booms cause
cancer.

I've never seen such a claim. What the media reported was that it was
cancelled because the sonic boom caused noise above the legal
threshold. What was egregious was that they allowed the discorde to
violate those standards.

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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:58:45 -0400, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

We do not want the give the user access to issue MVS commands -
That is not the way this worked.
The clist does specific functions which the user cannot do directly with MVS 
commands.

Netview 5.4 is doing security checking against the invoking userid which it 
did not do before.
We need a way to stop it from doing so.

Just to be clear, Netview is not doing security checking in the scenario you've 
showed us. Netview is issuing commands, and it's issuing them from the invoking 
user ID. It's MVS Console processing that's doing the security checking.

I think your Netview person needs to be looking for Netview configuration 
parameters that control what user ID it runs work under.

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Re: S/A Dump issue

2011-08-05 Thread John Norgauer
This S/A dump program has been re-created recently so I guess the date 
10/31/06 is what was picked up from my system which has had
lots of maintenance since the Serverpac install.



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From:   Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:   08/03/2011 05:54 PM
Subject:Re: S/A Dump issue
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On 8/3/2011 5:25 PM, John Norgauer wrote:
 IEAIPL0010/31/06 HBB7740.

 Strange stuff going on here with my S/A dump writing.

Just a shot in the dark, but similar to the IPL text, is it 
possible that the S/A dump module has a dependency on the 
version of the system you're running? The Halloween 2006 date 
seems pretty old.

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
A826B9FD78356242A9D9595912F9B2323A4690FA92@DOITTMAIL03.doitt.nycnet,
on 08/05/2011
   at 11:58 AM, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov said:

We do not want the give the user access to issue MVS commands -

Who is the user? Isn't DPCINTAA the autoops user that the commands are
handed off to?
 
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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
From this excerpt, Netview 5.4 does pass the MVS commands on for security 
checking.
The difference now is that it is checking against the invoking userid, not that 
of the Netview operator.

In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F
  (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView
  operator task without the MVS prefix.
  These commands are now sent to the VTAM command processor
  where they are checked to determine if they are VTAM commands
  If they are not VTAM commands, they are forwarded to the MVS
  command processor (CNMCMVS) where they are processed the same
  as if they had been entered using the MVS command including
  security checking.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Walt Farrell
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Netview security problem

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:58:45 -0400, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

We do not want the give the user access to issue MVS commands -
That is not the way this worked.
The clist does specific functions which the user cannot do directly with MVS 
commands.

Netview 5.4 is doing security checking against the invoking userid which it 
did not do before.
We need a way to stop it from doing so.

Just to be clear, Netview is not doing security checking in the scenario you've 
showed us. Netview is issuing commands, and it's issuing them from the invoking 
user ID. It's MVS Console processing that's doing the security checking.

I think your Netview person needs to be looking for Netview configuration 
parameters that control what user ID it runs work under.

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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
The RACF error is on the invoking userid who is running the job, not the 
DPCINTAA autoops which has access.
This seems to be different in Netview 5.4 from earlier releases.

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Subject: Re: Netview security problem

In
A826B9FD78356242A9D9595912F9B2323A4690FA92@DOITTMAIL03.doitt.nycnet,
on 08/05/2011
   at 11:58 AM, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov said:

We do not want the give the user access to issue MVS commands -

Who is the user? Isn't DPCINTAA the autoops user that the commands are
handed off to?
 
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SHARE Luau!

2011-08-05 Thread Brian Peterson
Cross-posted from the IBMVM listof interest to those of you attending SHARE 
in Orlando starting Sunday August 7, 2011.

Brian


From: James Vincent 
Date: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:53 PM
Subject: SHARE Luau!
To: The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.uark.edu


Are you going to SHARE in Orlando next week?  Want to have some real FUN too?  
SHARE is going to be having a Luau on Sunday evening to kick the week off!  
This isn't the usual finger-food reception, this is the real deal with plenty* 
of good food and drink along with entertainment.  We're talking Hawaiian shirt 
time folks!  Most long-time VM'ers know what that means, so bring 'em on!

It should be a lot of fun.  I hope to see everyone there!  I'll be the one in 
the Hawaiian shirt... :-)

See 
http://www.share.org/Events/UpcomingConferences/SHAREinOrlando/SHAREinOrlandoLuau/tabid/773/Default.aspx
 for more details.

(* Plenty meaning you can easily have dinner at the Luau!)

-- James Vincent

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Thomas
Anne / Rick,

If you guys have this resolved, great .. else shoot me an email
offline with the definition of PARMJOBC. 

Further, please note that the mask value for an ICM represent the
locations of the receiving register. If the sending address is 
x'0008', then ICM is going to look at address x'' thru
x'0002'.

Please also verify that your new module is loaded and being picked
up. 

Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)


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Of Crabtree, Anne D
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: assembler help!

What is your email address Rick?  Another person has looked at my code and
is being very helpful, but I still don't get what I want when I run a multi
step job...  Comparing mine to yours might help..

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Office of Technology Data Center
1900 Kanawha Blvd East
Charleston, WV  25305
(304)558-5914 ext 58292
(304)558-1441 fax


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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: assembler help!

--snip
---

In our IEFACTRT (accounting exit), an assembler program, it has the
following commands:

L R2,PARMJOBC
  

 R2 now contains PARMJOBC, 
X'0008'

ICM   R1,7,0(R2)
  

   R1 now contains 
X'..zz', where .. are the origincal contents of R1 and zz are 
the contents of storage location X'0008'

If PARMJOBC contains a binary integer length of 4 with 00 00 00 08, what
ends up in all bits of R1?  I am trying to add additional values to what is
in R1 by doing:

MVC   WK1(4),SMF30CPS
A R1,WK1

This is not doing what I want it to do! If SMF30CPS, also a binary integer
length of 4, has 00 00 00 01,  what ends up in R1?
  

 R1 now contains God only knows 
what.

Shoot me an Assembler listing of the source code (ZIP'ped) and I'll take 
a look at it. I suspect I know what's wrong but don't want to clutter 
the list with a long drawn-out explanation.

Rick

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Ed Finnell
What was the RAND fiasco at SHARE in SFO? They were giving out PL/S  tapes
 with the IBM doco. I almost made it back to the data center before my  
beeper  went off...BRING IT BACK NOW!
 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2011 9:34:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes:

METAL C  is new and seems to be IBM's strategic direction for making 
HLASM-based  
system services consumable by a compiled  language.



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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
I got the answer from IBM - there is a NETVIEW AUTHCHCK parm in CNMSTYLE which 
is currently set to
SOURCEID instead of TARGETID as it used to be.
This causes the security checking to be invoked against the invoking user and 
not the userid who is running the task. 

Thanks to all who responded.

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Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Netview security problem

Would anyone know what is causing the error below?
I am trying to researchit  but I am not very familiar with Netview internals 
and parameters and need a fast solution.
The RACF group says that nothing was changed on this lpar and the Netview 
programmer is not sure about
any changes to security.
I think that the error started happening when we went to  Netview 5.4 from 
either 5.3 or 5.2
The clist named NEWCOPYR is invoked from userid  0018 via a job stream 
issuing commands from a program (via  svc 34).
The user is not authorized to issue any MVS commands directly but has always 
been allowed to invoke clists
(via * for automation Netview) from the program.

The NEWCOPYR clist routes the commands to an autoperator (DPCINTAA)  for 
processing -
The ROUTE and other commands have always run under the auto-operator's id which 
has authority to issue them -
now they are  trying to be run under the invoking users id (0018).

Is there some parameter in Netview to control this so that the commands just 
run under the userid of the Netview operator and
 not the invoking user?

   Thanks list

JOB23281 0290  *NEWCOPYR CICSSAP3 FINRPAD D NO DOFD N N N NN RMD
10:25:54.47 DPCINTAA 0290  ROUTE DOFD,F CICSSAP3,CWTO NEWCOPY01: NEWCOPY
   USERID 0018
10:25:54.47 DPCINTAA 0090  IEE345I ROUTEAUTHORITY INVALID, FAILED BY
10:25:54.47  0090  ICH408I USER(0018 ) GROUP(XXD00   ) NAME(A
 041 0090MVS.ROUTE.CMD.DOFD CL(OPERCMDS)
 041 0090INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
 041 0090FROM MVS.** (G)
 041 0090ACCESS INTENT(READ   )  ACCESS ALLOWED(NONE

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Ed Gould
 Ed,

I remember the location being anehiem (but I could be wrong or it could be 
another group).  Since then I never went to another conference with a tape.  I 
believe they were going to ship the tape back to me. I was always upset that I 
never got the data on the tape. 

Ed

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Re: another one bites the dust (WAS:assembler help!)

2011-08-05 Thread Scott Rowe
At least you still have one, I am in the process of shutting down and wiping
the last disks clean on our mainframe, it ships out next week.

Anyone need any help out there?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:07 AM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote:

 I guess my complaining __is__ becoming tiresome. I'll try to stop. At least
 we still have a z.

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:24:50 -0500, Jim Thomas wrote:

please note that the mask value for an ICM represent the
locations of the receiving register. If the sending address is
x'0008', then ICM is going to look at address x'' thru
x'0002'.

ITYM locations x'08' through x'0A'.

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Lloyd Fuller
No. 

 ICM ..,7,.. is going to load from the leftmost 24 bits of operand 3 NOT from 
the rightmost 24 bits.  BTDT and had to fix it.

Lloyd




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Subject: Re: assembler help!

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:24:50 -0500, Jim Thomas wrote:

please note that the mask value for an ICM represent the
locations of the receiving register. If the sending address is
x'0008', then ICM is going to look at address x'' thru
x'0002'.

ITYM locations x'08' through x'0A'.

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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Chris Mason
Eileen

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and 
 V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task without the MVS 
 prefix.

How massively amusing! I think I'll say that one more time: how really 
massively amusing!

Today there is NetView. 15 years or so ago, Tivoli got into the act and started 
putting Tivoli in front of NetView in the product name although they had 
absolutely nothing whatsoever in this world to do with MVS NetView[1].

Before NetView and long before Tivoli was added to the name, there was NCCF 
(Network Communications Control Facility) which was bundled together with a 
number of products which used NCCF as an enabling environment as a sort of 
network management CICS but with a few basic functions. Before NCCF, those 
basic functions were supported by a product NOSP (Network Operation Support 
Program).

Dates: NOSP (1978 or so), NCCF (1980 or so), NetView (1986 or so).

Now, all readers are invited to propose what functions NOSP supported.

Wait, while the cogs turn ...

Why it's  D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a 
NOSP operator task without any thought of any sort of prefix.

Naturally, they were only the VTAM flavours of these commands.

-

Ok, I've had my joke!

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and 
 V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task without the MVS 
 prefix. These commands are now sent to the VTAM command processor where they 
 are checked to determine if they are VTAM commands If they are not VTAM 
 commands, they are forwarded to the MVS command processor (CNMCMVS) where 
 they are processed the same as if they had been entered using the MVS command 
 including security checking.

I'm going to rephrase this entirely correct but thoroughly misleading paragraph 
so that it has the appropriate nuances.

rephrase

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow even the non-VTAM D (DISPLAY), F 
 (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task 
 without the MVS prefix. The VTAM command processor obviously takes these 
 commands and then checks them in order to determine whether or not they are 
 VTAM commands. If they are VTAM commands, they are processed as usual. If 
 they are not VTAM commands, they are forwarded to the MVS command processor 
 (CNMCMVS) where they are processed the same as if they had been entered using 
 the MVS command. This processing includes security checking.

/rephrase

Because NetView development so much insists on holding the poor put-upon system 
programmer's hand - and has done so ever since NetView was assembled from its 
constituent parts because - so one was lead to believe by NetView development - 
the poor lambs of system programmers bleated that putting the components 
together as individual - separately priced - products made their skulls 
throb[2], these days system programmers no longer know how NetView works under 
the covers - unless perhaps they are involved in building products on top of 
NetView/NCCF as an application-enabling environment.

-

Anyhow, the point of all this preamble is that the DISPLAY (D), MODIFY (F) and 
VARY (V) commands are all identified using those tokens in a text table I seem 
to recall having the DSIPARM member name DSICMD - I Google-checked and I 
remembered correctly! One of the operands of the command definition is the name 
of the module which handles the command and in the case of these 6 commands it 
is something like DSIVTAM, the command processor module for what hitherto - 
from the days of NOSP - were expected to be exclusively VTAM commands.

It seems that the NetView V5R4 change is that smarts have been added to - let's 
call it - DSIVTAM so that, rather than barfing - or letting VTAM barf - at 
having to deal with an unrecognised command, it constructs a new command from 
the unrecognised text string prepended with MVS  and cycles it into the 
NetView command processing system - or something, in effect, equivalent to that.

-

Now I'm going to have a look at the rest of this thread in order to see if any 
of the above can in any way be used to understand anything of what has been 
said so far or, more likely, just may assist in refocusing the real security 
specialists on what may be going on and provide input for future thoughts.

...

Well, no I'm a bit lost in understanding to which component the RACF message 
applies and how what appears to be, in effect, a change introducing convenience 
in NetView might introduce a change relevant to RACF.

In addition, unless the commands in the clist are changed in order to remove 
the MVS  which NetView is prepared to add, I can't see that anything has 
changed. If a change introduces a problem, then change back to the way it was.

I guess this might boil down to asking what relevance does this description of 
not needing to specify the MVS  prefix for DISPLAY, MODIFY and VARY commands 

Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:38:37 -0700, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

No.

Are you saying No to what I wtore or to what Jim wrote?

 ICM ..,7,.. is going to load from the leftmost 24 bits of operand 3 

ITYM operand 2.  Operand 3 is the mask.  Yes, I know it is confusing 
because it is the second one specified in the instruction and 
operand 2 is the third one specified.

NOT from
the rightmost 24 bits.

Right.  Neither of us said otherwise.

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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Thanks for your comments Chris, but I think that you missed the point of the 
excerpt I included, which was just in
response to someone saying that Netview itself does not invoke security 
checking - it does invoke security checking and how it does it depends upon the 
AUTHCHK option. AUTHCHK used to default to TARGETID, which used the userid of 
the task running (the Netview operator) as opposed to SOURCEID (the 5.4 
default), which uses the id of the invoker.
My problem was not with the inclusion or exclusion of the word 'MVS' in front 
of the command.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Chris Mason
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 3:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Netview security problem

Eileen

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and 
 V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task without the MVS 
 prefix.

How massively amusing! I think I'll say that one more time: how really 
massively amusing!

Today there is NetView. 15 years or so ago, Tivoli got into the act and started 
putting Tivoli in front of NetView in the product name although they had 
absolutely nothing whatsoever in this world to do with MVS NetView[1].

Before NetView and long before Tivoli was added to the name, there was NCCF 
(Network Communications Control Facility) which was bundled together with a 
number of products which used NCCF as an enabling environment as a sort of 
network management CICS but with a few basic functions. Before NCCF, those 
basic functions were supported by a product NOSP (Network Operation Support 
Program).

Dates: NOSP (1978 or so), NCCF (1980 or so), NetView (1986 or so).

Now, all readers are invited to propose what functions NOSP supported.

Wait, while the cogs turn ...

Why it's  D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a 
NOSP operator task without any thought of any sort of prefix.

Naturally, they were only the VTAM flavours of these commands.

-

Ok, I've had my joke!

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and 
 V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task without the MVS 
 prefix. These commands are now sent to the VTAM command processor where they 
 are checked to determine if they are VTAM commands If they are not VTAM 
 commands, they are forwarded to the MVS command processor (CNMCMVS) where 
 they are processed the same as if they had been entered using the MVS command 
 including security checking.

I'm going to rephrase this entirely correct but thoroughly misleading paragraph 
so that it has the appropriate nuances.

rephrase

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow even the non-VTAM D (DISPLAY), F 
 (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task 
 without the MVS prefix. The VTAM command processor obviously takes these 
 commands and then checks them in order to determine whether or not they are 
 VTAM commands. If they are VTAM commands, they are processed as usual. If 
 they are not VTAM commands, they are forwarded to the MVS command processor 
 (CNMCMVS) where they are processed the same as if they had been entered using 
 the MVS command. This processing includes security checking.

/rephrase

Because NetView development so much insists on holding the poor put-upon system 
programmer's hand - and has done so ever since NetView was assembled from its 
constituent parts because - so one was lead to believe by NetView development - 
the poor lambs of system programmers bleated that putting the components 
together as individual - separately priced - products made their skulls 
throb[2], these days system programmers no longer know how NetView works under 
the covers - unless perhaps they are involved in building products on top of 
NetView/NCCF as an application-enabling environment.

-

Anyhow, the point of all this preamble is that the DISPLAY (D), MODIFY (F) and 
VARY (V) commands are all identified using those tokens in a text table I seem 
to recall having the DSIPARM member name DSICMD - I Google-checked and I 
remembered correctly! One of the operands of the command definition is the name 
of the module which handles the command and in the case of these 6 commands it 
is something like DSIVTAM, the command processor module for what hitherto - 
from the days of NOSP - were expected to be exclusively VTAM commands.

It seems that the NetView V5R4 change is that smarts have been added to - let's 
call it - DSIVTAM so that, rather than barfing - or letting VTAM barf - at 
having to deal with an unrecognised command, it constructs a new command from 
the unrecognised text string prepended with MVS  and cycles it into the 
NetView command processing system - or something, in effect, equivalent to that.

-

Now I'm going to have a look at the rest of this thread in order to see if any 
of the above can in any way be used to understand anything 

Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Chris Mason
Eileen

So does this NETVIEW AUTHCHCK SOURCEID|TARGETID have anything at all to do with 
the enhancement to the VTAM command processor or was that a red herring?

Chris Mason

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:32:22 -0400, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

I got the answer from IBM - there is a NETVIEW AUTHCHCK parm in CNMSTYLE which 
is currently set to
SOURCEID instead of TARGETID as it used to be.
This causes the security checking to be invoked against the invoking user and 
not the userid who is running the task.

Thanks to all who responded.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Netview security problem

Would anyone know what is causing the error below?
I am trying to researchit  but I am not very familiar with Netview internals 
and parameters and need a fast solution.
The RACF group says that nothing was changed on this lpar and the Netview 
programmer is not sure about
any changes to security.
I think that the error started happening when we went to  Netview 5.4 from 
either 5.3 or 5.2
The clist named NEWCOPYR is invoked from userid  0018 via a job stream 
issuing commands from a program (via  svc 34).
The user is not authorized to issue any MVS commands directly but has always 
been allowed to invoke clists
(via * for automation Netview) from the program.

The NEWCOPYR clist routes the commands to an autoperator (DPCINTAA)  for 
processing -
The ROUTE and other commands have always run under the auto-operator's id 
which has authority to issue them -
now they are  trying to be run under the invoking users id (0018).

Is there some parameter in Netview to control this so that the commands just 
run under the userid of the Netview operator and
 not the invoking user?

   Thanks list

JOB23281 0290  *NEWCOPYR CICSSAP3 FINRPAD D NO DOFD N N N NN RMD
10:25:54.47 DPCINTAA 0290  ROUTE DOFD,F CICSSAP3,CWTO NEWCOPY01: NEWCOPY
   USERID 0018
10:25:54.47 DPCINTAA 0090  IEE345I ROUTEAUTHORITY INVALID, FAILED BY
10:25:54.47  0090  ICH408I USER(0018 ) GROUP(XXD00   ) NAME(A
 041 0090MVS.ROUTE.CMD.DOFD CL(OPERCMDS)
 041 0090INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
 041 0090FROM MVS.** (G)
 041 0090ACCESS INTENT(READ   )  ACCESS ALLOWED(NONE

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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
The AUTHCHK default change had nothing to do with the VTAM command enhancement, 
except that such commands with or without the MVS prefix are subject to 
security checking.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Chris Mason
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 3:49 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Netview security problem

Eileen

So does this NETVIEW AUTHCHCK SOURCEID|TARGETID have anything at all to do with 
the enhancement to the VTAM command processor or was that a red herring?

Chris Mason

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:32:22 -0400, Barkow, Eileen ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

I got the answer from IBM - there is a NETVIEW AUTHCHCK parm in CNMSTYLE which 
is currently set to
SOURCEID instead of TARGETID as it used to be.
This causes the security checking to be invoked against the invoking user and 
not the userid who is running the task.

Thanks to all who responded.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Barkow, Eileen
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Netview security problem

Would anyone know what is causing the error below?
I am trying to researchit  but I am not very familiar with Netview internals 
and parameters and need a fast solution.
The RACF group says that nothing was changed on this lpar and the Netview 
programmer is not sure about
any changes to security.
I think that the error started happening when we went to  Netview 5.4 from 
either 5.3 or 5.2
The clist named NEWCOPYR is invoked from userid  0018 via a job stream 
issuing commands from a program (via  svc 34).
The user is not authorized to issue any MVS commands directly but has always 
been allowed to invoke clists
(via * for automation Netview) from the program.

The NEWCOPYR clist routes the commands to an autoperator (DPCINTAA)  for 
processing -
The ROUTE and other commands have always run under the auto-operator's id 
which has authority to issue them -
now they are  trying to be run under the invoking users id (0018).

Is there some parameter in Netview to control this so that the commands just 
run under the userid of the Netview operator and
 not the invoking user?

   Thanks list

JOB23281 0290  *NEWCOPYR CICSSAP3 FINRPAD D NO DOFD N N N NN RMD
10:25:54.47 DPCINTAA 0290  ROUTE DOFD,F CICSSAP3,CWTO NEWCOPY01: NEWCOPY
   USERID 0018
10:25:54.47 DPCINTAA 0090  IEE345I ROUTEAUTHORITY INVALID, FAILED BY
10:25:54.47  0090  ICH408I USER(0018 ) GROUP(XXD00   ) NAME(A
 041 0090MVS.ROUTE.CMD.DOFD CL(OPERCMDS)
 041 0090INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY
 041 0090FROM MVS.** (G)
 041 0090ACCESS INTENT(READ   )  ACCESS ALLOWED(NONE

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Chase, John
In the example cited below, operand 3 starts at location 0008.


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
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 Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 2:39 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: assembler help!
 
 No.
 
  ICM ..,7,.. is going to load from the leftmost 24 bits of operand 3
NOT from
 the rightmost 24 bits.  BTDT and had to fix it.
 
 Lloyd
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Fri, August 5, 2011 3:25:02 PM
 Subject: Re: assembler help!
 
 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:24:50 -0500, Jim Thomas wrote:
 
 please note that the mask value for an ICM represent the
 locations of the receiving register. If the sending address is
 x'0008', then ICM is going to look at address x'' thru
 x'0002'.
 
 ITYM locations x'08' through x'0A'.
 
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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Rick Fochtman

Shane Ginnane wrote:


Looks like someone has hacked into John's email system.
   



Did anyone else get this as a privately addressed mail, or merely via the
list server ? Trying to work out if they got his contact list.
Header IP looks like China.

Shane ...

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I got it privately, as well as here.

Rick

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir,

I'm sorry ... it would have been if the ICM was 
coded as below.

 ICM  R1,B'0111',1(R2) (or ,7,1(r2)) 

Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
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Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 2:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: assembler help!

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:24:50 -0500, Jim Thomas wrote:

please note that the mask value for an ICM represent the
locations of the receiving register. If the sending address is
x'0008', then ICM is going to look at address x'' thru
x'0002'.

ITYM locations x'08' through x'0A'.

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Re: A nice website,go it

2011-08-05 Thread Rick Fochtman

If not, it's got to run a very close second!!!

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of john gilmore

Good news for you!

I found a wonderful website:seicn.com and bought a laptop. How
   


amazing, they take 5 days to send to my
 


home.

On their web, they have many products. If you need to buy something,
   


you can go to look and check it
 


Thanks
   



I do believe this is the most obvious forgery we've ever seen here.

   -jc-

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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Eileen,
Actually the comment that Netview itself does not invoke security 
checking is correct.  Netview issues the MGCRE macro, which passes a 
command to the console interface.  The interface console determines what 
command is being issued, and performs security checks to insure that the 
userid that is either defaulted, or requested by the caller of the MGCRE 
macro via the UTOKEN parameter is authorized to issue the command.  My 
guess is that NETVIEW passes the UTOKEN of the user signed to the NETVIEW 
session if AUTHCHK=SOURCEID, and passes the UTOKEN of the NETVIEW address 
space if AUTHCHK=TARGETID .  In either case, NETVIEW isn't making the 
security requests, they are made by the console service, in the same way 
that console services validates instructions issued from SDSF, the TSO 
OPER command, or any other application that issues MGCRE.
 
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Thanks for your comments Chris, but I think that you missed the point of 
the excerpt I included, which was just in
response to someone saying that Netview itself does not invoke security 
checking - it does invoke security checking and how it does it depends 
upon the AUTHCHK option. AUTHCHK used to default to TARGETID, which used 
the userid of the task running (the Netview operator) as opposed to 
SOURCEID (the 5.4 default), which uses the id of the invoker.
My problem was not with the inclusion or exclusion of the word 'MVS' in 
front of the command.

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Eileen

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), 
and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task without 
the MVS prefix.

How massively amusing! I think I'll say that one more time: how really 
massively amusing!

Today there is NetView. 15 years or so ago, Tivoli got into the act and 
started putting Tivoli in front of NetView in the product name although 
they had absolutely nothing whatsoever in this world to do with MVS 
NetView[1].

Before NetView and long before Tivoli was added to the name, there was 
NCCF (Network Communications Control Facility) which was bundled together 
with a number of products which used NCCF as an enabling environment as a 
sort of network management CICS but with a few basic functions. Before 
NCCF, those basic functions were supported by a product NOSP (Network 
Operation Support Program).

Dates: NOSP (1978 or so), NCCF (1980 or so), NetView (1986 or so).

Now, all readers are invited to propose what functions NOSP supported.

Wait, while the cogs turn ...

Why it's  D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued 
from a NOSP operator task without any thought of any sort of prefix.

Naturally, they were only the VTAM flavours of these commands.

-

Ok, I've had my joke!

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), 
and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task without 
the MVS prefix. These commands are now sent to the VTAM command processor 
where they are checked to determine if they are VTAM commands If they are 
not VTAM commands, they are forwarded to the MVS command processor 
(CNMCMVS) where they are processed the same as if they had been entered 
using the MVS command including security checking.

I'm going to rephrase this entirely correct but thoroughly misleading 
paragraph so that it has the appropriate nuances.

rephrase

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow even the non-VTAM D 
(DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView 
operator task without the MVS prefix. The VTAM command processor obviously 
takes these commands and then checks them in order to determine whether or 
not they are VTAM commands. If they are VTAM commands, they are processed 
as usual. If they are not VTAM commands, they are forwarded to the MVS 
command processor (CNMCMVS) where they are processed the same as if they 
had been entered using the MVS command. This processing includes security 
checking.

/rephrase

Because NetView development so much insists on holding the poor put-upon 
system programmer's hand - and has done so ever since NetView was 
assembled from its constituent parts because - so one was lead to believe 
by NetView development - the poor lambs of system programmers bleated that 
putting the components together as individual - separately priced - 
products made their skulls throb[2], these days system programmers no 
longer know how NetView 

Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip---


IBM did actually release PL/X (or maybe it was called PL/370 back
then?) 
   



No:
BSL
PL/S (two versions)
PL/8
PL/AS
PL/X

There was a PL/360, but that was a crude assembler with
sort-of-kind-of Algol syntax and not from IBM. I think that there was
another PL/* compiler in the sequence, but it wasn't PL/370.
 


---unsnip
Are you thinking perhaps of PL/C, the WATFIV-like PL/1 processor from 
Cornell U. ??


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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
When it comes to unix (or winders), I really don't mind being the village 
idiot, because at least I know what I don't know, or at least I thought so 
until I read this rant.  A lot of my manuals refer to (what I call) mainframe 
unix as OMVS and/or USS.  Not being a seasoned uniq, all these references are 
synonymous to me.  Kindly define and differentiate these terms for me so I can 
return to knowing what I don't know with peace of mind restored. 

 
 
 
 -
 
 [1] There are very many people in this list who misuse the
 term USS when they should be using the term z/OS UNIX or
 z/UNIX. I divide people into those who deliberately misuse
 the term, the conceited idiots, and those who are misled by
 the perpetual misuse by conceited idiots who should know
 better and are beyond the reach of reason. Those misled of
 course tend to be those who have recently become involved
 with z/OS who should be being assisted in their
 understanding of this complex topic but who are treated with
 disdain by the conceited idiots.
 
 For example, in trying to solve this problem, you may well
 be trying to examine the role of the USS table, its commands
 and messages, in trying to resolve your problem. You may
 well have become thoroughly confused over how this relates
 in any way with what you think you have learned is to what
 USS might refer, namely, and quite falsely, z/OS UNIX
 System Services. The conceited idiots are too thick to get
 their puny brains round this particular problem - or is that
 also an issue?
 
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Re: Netview security problem

2011-08-05 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Thanks for the clarification Wayne. 
In actuality it does not really matter if Netview does the security checking or 
calls some other component such as
The console interface to do so - the net effect is the same.
But it is helpful to know how the process works internally. 

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Eileen,
Actually the comment that Netview itself does not invoke security 
checking is correct.  Netview issues the MGCRE macro, which passes a 
command to the console interface.  The interface console determines what 
command is being issued, and performs security checks to insure that the 
userid that is either defaulted, or requested by the caller of the MGCRE 
macro via the UTOKEN parameter is authorized to issue the command.  My 
guess is that NETVIEW passes the UTOKEN of the user signed to the NETVIEW 
session if AUTHCHK=SOURCEID, and passes the UTOKEN of the NETVIEW address 
space if AUTHCHK=TARGETID .  In either case, NETVIEW isn't making the 
security requests, they are made by the console service, in the same way 
that console services validates instructions issued from SDSF, the TSO 
OPER command, or any other application that issues MGCRE.
 
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Thanks for your comments Chris, but I think that you missed the point of 
the excerpt I included, which was just in
response to someone saying that Netview itself does not invoke security 
checking - it does invoke security checking and how it does it depends 
upon the AUTHCHK option. AUTHCHK used to default to TARGETID, which used 
the userid of the task running (the Netview operator) as opposed to 
SOURCEID (the 5.4 default), which uses the id of the invoker.
My problem was not with the inclusion or exclusion of the word 'MVS' in 
front of the command.

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Eileen

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), 
and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task without 
the MVS prefix.

How massively amusing! I think I'll say that one more time: how really 
massively amusing!

Today there is NetView. 15 years or so ago, Tivoli got into the act and 
started putting Tivoli in front of NetView in the product name although 
they had absolutely nothing whatsoever in this world to do with MVS 
NetView[1].

Before NetView and long before Tivoli was added to the name, there was 
NCCF (Network Communications Control Facility) which was bundled together 
with a number of products which used NCCF as an enabling environment as a 
sort of network management CICS but with a few basic functions. Before 
NCCF, those basic functions were supported by a product NOSP (Network 
Operation Support Program).

Dates: NOSP (1978 or so), NCCF (1980 or so), NetView (1986 or so).

Now, all readers are invited to propose what functions NOSP supported.

Wait, while the cogs turn ...

Why it's  D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued 
from a NOSP operator task without any thought of any sort of prefix.

Naturally, they were only the VTAM flavours of these commands.

-

Ok, I've had my joke!

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow the D (DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), 
and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView operator task without 
the MVS prefix. These commands are now sent to the VTAM command processor 
where they are checked to determine if they are VTAM commands If they are 
not VTAM commands, they are forwarded to the MVS command processor 
(CNMCMVS) where they are processed the same as if they had been entered 
using the MVS command including security checking.

I'm going to rephrase this entirely correct but thoroughly misleading 
paragraph so that it has the appropriate nuances.

rephrase

 In NetView V5R4 there was a change to allow even the non-VTAM D 
(DISPLAY), F (MODIFY), and V (VARY) commands to be issued from a NetView 
operator task without the MVS prefix. The VTAM command processor obviously 
takes these commands and then checks them in order to determine whether or 
not they are VTAM commands. If they are VTAM commands, they are processed 
as usual. If they are not VTAM commands, they are forwarded to the MVS 
command processor (CNMCMVS) where they are processed the same as if they 
had been entered using the MVS command. This processing 

Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip---


Anne / Rick,

If you guys have this resolved, great .. else shoot me an email
offline with the definition of PARMJOBC. 


Further, please note that the mask value for an ICM represent the
locations of the receiving register. If the sending address is 
x'0008', then ICM is going to look at address x'' thru

x'0002'.

Please also verify that your new module is loaded and being picked
up. 


Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)
 


--unsnip--
Take a closer look, Jim. The values loaded will be from location 
X'0008' thru X'000A', which are all indeterminate values. They 
will be loaded into the second thru fourth bytes of the register named 
in the ICM instruction.


Rick

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Bob Shannon
IBM did actually release PL/X (or maybe it was called PL/370 back
then?)

Are you thinking perhaps of PL/C, the WATFIV-like PL/1 processor from Cornell 
U. ??

IBM made PL/X available to ISVs in the mid-1990s. After about 18 months it was 
withdrawn.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir,

Negative ... 

 ICM   first_operand,B'third_operand',0(second_operand)

Actually ... 'third_operand' is not really defined as an operand more
so as 'M3' ... mask. 

If 'second_operand' points to the value x'aabbccdd' in storage then ICM
will copy x'aabbcc' to 'first_operand' given that the 'third_operand'
or 'M3' is b'0111' (or 7). This will result in the 'first_operand' being
x'yyaabbcc' where 'yy' would be a result of residual usage previously.   

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In the example cited below, operand 3 starts at location 0008.


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 No.
 
  ICM ..,7,.. is going to load from the leftmost 24 bits of operand 3
NOT from
 the rightmost 24 bits.  BTDT and had to fix it.
 
 Lloyd
 
 
 
 
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 On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:24:50 -0500, Jim Thomas wrote:
 
 please note that the mask value for an ICM represent the
 locations of the receiving register. If the sending address is
 x'0008', then ICM is going to look at address x'' thru
 x'0002'.
 
 ITYM locations x'08' through x'0A'.
 
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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:04:46 -0500, Jim Thomas wrote:

I'm sorry ... it would have been if the ICM was
coded as below.

 ICM  R1,B'0111',1(R2) (or ,7,1(r2))

What are you trying to say?  It would help if you would be 
more precise in your terminology  What is the it that would 
have been if the second-operand address were specified as 1(R2)?

If the value of symbol R2 is 2 and the contents of Register 2 is 
X'0008', then the addresses from which the data is inserted 
into the register start at location x'09'.

BTW, ,7,1(r2) is invalid.

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On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:24:50 -0500, Jim Thomas wrote:

please note that the mask value for an ICM represent the
locations of the receiving register. If the sending address is
x'0008', then ICM is going to look at address x'' thru
x'0002'.

ITYM locations x'08' through x'0A'.

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Re: assembler help!

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir,

Right you are  IIRC, Stanford .. 

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---snip---

IBM did actually release PL/X (or maybe it was called PL/370 back
then?) 



No:
 BSL
 PL/S (two versions)
 PL/8
 PL/AS
 PL/X

There was a PL/360, but that was a crude assembler with
sort-of-kind-of Algol syntax and not from IBM. I think that there was
another PL/* compiler in the sequence, but it wasn't PL/370.
  

---unsnip
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Cornell U. ??

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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
 [1] There are very many people in this list who misuse the
 term USS when they should be using the term z/OS UNIX or
 z/UNIX. I divide people into those who deliberately misuse
 the term, the conceited idiots, and those who are misled by
 the perpetual misuse by conceited idiots who should know
 better and are beyond the reach of reason.

And, there are arrogant (and pedantic) individuals who have too much time on 
their hands so they can moan about such trivialities.

USS, like many TLA's, has many meanings.
IBM uses the term for 'z/UNIX', in many docs.

So, if you are intelligent, you should be able to figure the issue out by 
context.

Also, the ultimate in arrogance, pointing out the 'error' in terminology, 
rather than helping is unacceptable.

Besides, who died and made the ultimate arbiter as to the 'fact' it SHOULD be 
called 'z/(OS)UNIX?
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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Stone, Sandy
Hooboy...here we go again! 

s

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 [1] There are very many people in this list who misuse the
 term USS when they should be using the term z/OS UNIX or
 z/UNIX. I divide people into those who deliberately misuse
 the term, the conceited idiots, and those who are misled by
 the perpetual misuse by conceited idiots who should know
 better and are beyond the reach of reason.

And, there are arrogant (and pedantic) individuals who have too much
time on their hands so they can moan about such trivialities.

USS, like many TLA's, has many meanings.
IBM uses the term for 'z/UNIX', in many docs.

So, if you are intelligent, you should be able to figure the issue out
by context.

Also, the ultimate in arrogance, pointing out the 'error' in
terminology, rather than helping is unacceptable.

Besides, who died and made the ultimate arbiter as to the 'fact' it
SHOULD be called 'z/(OS)UNIX?
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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Bill Fairchild
Please kill this thread before it gains any more momentum.  If anyone needs to 
learn more about the USS controversy (if learn is the proper verb), please 
consult the archives, which have gone into 123 additional extents to hold all 
the msg traffic on USS.

Bill Fairchild

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 [1] There are very many people in this list who misuse the term USS 
 when they should be using the term z/OS UNIX or z/UNIX. I divide 
 people into those who deliberately misuse the term, the conceited 
 idiots, and those who are misled by the perpetual misuse by conceited 
 idiots who should know better and are beyond the reach of reason.

And, there are arrogant (and pedantic) individuals who have too much time on 
their hands so they can moan about such trivialities.

USS, like many TLA's, has many meanings.
IBM uses the term for 'z/UNIX', in many docs.

So, if you are intelligent, you should be able to figure the issue out by 
context.

Also, the ultimate in arrogance, pointing out the 'error' in terminology, 
rather than helping is unacceptable.

Besides, who died and made the ultimate arbiter as to the 'fact' it SHOULD be 
called 'z/(OS)UNIX?
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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Mike Liberatore
Interesting, I understand why you are not to login to TSO.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 [1] There are very many people in this list who misuse the
 term USS when they should be using the term z/OS UNIX or
 z/UNIX. I divide people into those who deliberately misuse
 the term, the conceited idiots, and those who are misled by
 the perpetual misuse by conceited idiots who should know
 better and are beyond the reach of reason.

And, there are arrogant (and pedantic) individuals who have too much time on 
their hands so they can moan about such trivialities.

USS, like many TLA's, has many meanings.
IBM uses the term for 'z/UNIX', in many docs.

So, if you are intelligent, you should be able to figure the issue out by 
context.

Also, the ultimate in arrogance, pointing out the 'error' in terminology, 
rather than helping is unacceptable.

Besides, who died and made the ultimate arbiter as to the 'fact' it SHOULD be 
called 'z/(OS)UNIX?
-
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Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

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Re: Not able to login to TSO

2011-08-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry, but I was trying to point out that this was trivial, and meaningless.
And, I was probably too terse.
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Ted MacNEIL
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From: Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com
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Subject: Re: Not able to login to TSO

Please kill this thread before it gains any more momentum.  If anyone needs to 
learn more about the USS controversy (if learn is the proper verb), please 
consult the archives, which have gone into 123 additional extents to hold all 
the msg traffic on USS.

Bill Fairchild

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 [1] There are very many people in this list who misuse the term USS 
 when they should be using the term z/OS UNIX or z/UNIX. I divide 
 people into those who deliberately misuse the term, the conceited 
 idiots, and those who are misled by the perpetual misuse by conceited 
 idiots who should know better and are beyond the reach of reason.

And, there are arrogant (and pedantic) individuals who have too much time on 
their hands so they can moan about such trivialities.

USS, like many TLA's, has many meanings.
IBM uses the term for 'z/UNIX', in many docs.

So, if you are intelligent, you should be able to figure the issue out by 
context.

Also, the ultimate in arrogance, pointing out the 'error' in terminology, 
rather than helping is unacceptable.

Besides, who died and made the ultimate arbiter as to the 'fact' it SHOULD be 
called 'z/(OS)UNIX?
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SQL help please

2011-08-05 Thread Dave Day
Can someone tell me what is wrong with this SQL statement...need some help 
please.  I'm trying to access catalog table SYSIBM.SYSPLANDEP and cannot get 
past the pre-compiler.  I use the same host variable to access SYSIBM.SYSPLAN 
earlier in the code, and the pre-compiler doesn't gripe.

1st peice of SQL---no gripe

 EXEC  SQL  SELECT CREATOR, ISOLATION, RELEASE, EXPLAN,+
   BOUNDBY, QUALIFIER, GROUP_MEMBER, BOUNDTS, REOPTVAR,+
   REMARKS +
   INTO :GTPLOWNR, :GTPLISOL, :GTPLRELS, :GTPLEXPL,+
   :GTPLBNBY, :GTPLAUAL, :GTPLGRUP, :GTPLTIME, :GTPLREOP,  +
   :GTPLCMNT   +
   FROM SYSIBM.SYSPLAN +
   WHERE NAME = :GTPLNAME   

2nd piece of SQL---with pre-compiler error msg.

EXEC  SQL DECLARE C1 CURSOR FOR   +
  SELECT BNAME, BCREATOR, BTYPE   +
  FROM SYSIBM.SYSPLANDEP  +
  WHERE DNAME = :GTPLNAME  



DSNH312I E DSNHSMUD LINE 863 COL 31  UNDEFINED OR UNUSABLE HOST VARIABLE 
GTPLNAME
DECLARE C1 CURSOR FOR SELECT BNAME,BCREATOR,BTYPE FROM SYSIBM.SYSPLANDEP WHERE 
DNAME = : GTPLNAME  


Column NAME in SYSPLAN is defined the same as DNAME in SYSPLANDEP.  Varchar 
24.  GTPLNAME in my source is defined as a DS   H,CL24.   Anyone have an idea.  
I appreciate the help.  Thanks in advance.

--Dave Day


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