Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us wrote in message
news:93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3c12507...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.i
a.us...
 Going back to fundamentals, my recollection is that this information
is not in the VTOC (F1 DSCB), nor is it to be found in the catalog. 

Unless someone puts it there, like CA-DISK does.

 So it is only to be found in the SMF data.  I hope I have it right so
far.
 
 One implication could be that for certain ancient datasets, there will
be no record of the dataset creation event to be found, unless of course
the OP keeps SMF archives forever.
 
 John

And the final detail: SMF14/15 is written at CLOSE. If a dataset is
created and never opened, there will be no SMF14/15, nor any CA-DISK
info. 
If the dataset is cataloged, you can look at SMF61 (catalog define).

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Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-12-13 08:57, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze:
[...]

And the final detail: SMF14/15 is written at CLOSE. If a dataset is
created and never opened, there will be no SMF14/15, nor any CA-DISK
info.
If the dataset is cataloged, you can look at SMF61 (catalog define).


Of course one must care *in advance* to collect given SMF records.

As an alternative to the records above I would add SMF80 - RACF. It also 
requires SETROPTS settings for DATASET class. Advantage: easy to report, 
covers SMS, non-SMS, cataloged, non-cataloged datasets.


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Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cosby, Bob wrote:

nothing? ;-)

Ok, From the subject above you want something to tell you what created a 
dataset?

One question: do you want to be notified IMMEDIATELY or do you want some 'after 
the event' reports?

You got good replies for the latter. 

For the first, AFAIK, there is nothing 'ready to use thing' out there which can 
notify you the moment a dataset is created.

Perhaps you can setup RACF to notify you, but that is for violations. I think 
there are 3th party products (for those who have deeep pockets and dislikes 
freebies) which can monitor the system and notifies you immediately about such 
events.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: zFS parm sysplex=filesys

2011-12-13 Thread Walter Marguccio
 From: Chase, John jch...@ussco.com

 Subject: zFS parm sysplex=filesys

 Q1:  Has anyone here IPLed a z/OS 1.13 system into a supported
 back-level sysplex WITHOUT shared file systems AND without having
 specified sysplex=filesys in the back-level members?

We did. I already IPLed z/OS 1.13 on two of our 5 LPARs Basic Sysplex.
No sysplex=filesys in IOEFSPRM, sysplex=no in BPXPRMxx.
Both LPARs with z/OS 1.13 came up without any problems, the remaining 3
(at z/OS 1.11) did not complain either.

 Q2:  What observable effect(s), if any, would occur if we specify
 sysplex=filesys in our 1.11 images without sharing file systems?

Honestly, I didn't tried. I would think that sysplex=no takes precedence over
sysplex=filesys, but again, it is only my assumption.



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Re: zFS parm sysplex=filesys

2011-12-13 Thread Mark Jacobs

On 12/13/11 04:55, Walter Marguccio wrote:

snip

Q2:  What observable effect(s), if any, would occur if we specify
sysplex=filesys in our 1.11 images without sharing file systems?
 

Honestly, I didn't tried. I would think that sysplex=no takes precedence over
sysplex=filesys, but again, it is only my assumption.



Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany


   


I'm running our environment that way(don't ask) and Walter's assumption 
is correct, sysplex=filesys has no effect on a sysplex=no environment.


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Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
You did not state what kind of dataset

1)  SEQ/PS/PO/PDSE
Or 
2)  VSAM

If the first - SMF 14/15 - there are records for create/update/read/delete
for these types of files.
If the second - SMF Type 60s (I do not have the SMF manual to refer to which
one is CREATE for VSAM).


There are different record types depending on the type of dasd DSN you are
referring to.

As you can see there are many answers to your question.  If you provide more
details, we can help narrow it down for you.

So it is just CREATE you need or do you need something else as well
(update/modify, delete/create, etc...)

Lizette

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Portable jar command?

2011-12-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
I'd like to be able to write a portable script (or EXEC) which
uses the jar command.  I find:

On OS X:

507 $ type java jar
java is /usr/bin/java
jar is /usr/bin/jar

On Solaris:

133$ type java jar
java is /usr/java/bin/java
jar is /usr/java/bin/jar

OK.  Those are on my path.  on z/OS:

136$ type java jar
FSUM7422 java is not found
FSUM7422 jar is not found
137$ find /usr/lpp/java/J*/bin -name java  
/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin/java
/usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin/java
138$ find /usr/lpp/java/J*/bin -name jar   
/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin/jar
/usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin/jar

Ouch!  It's release-sensitive.  Is it also, therefore, site-sensitive?
On Ubuntu Linux:

889 $ type java jar
java is a tracked alias for /usr/bin/java
-ksh: type: jar: not found

No jar at all?  Maybe John M. can help me with this one.

Thanks,
gil

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S402 ABEND upon cross-memory POST

2011-12-13 Thread Peter Relson
I share Rob Scott's concern about keys (i.e., system integrity) with the 
approach that has been mentioned. The change to key 0 may have let the 
post complete without abend but may well have introduced unacceptable 
system integrity issues.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Portable jar command?

2011-12-13 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

On 12/13/2011 1:51 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

I'd like to be able to write a portable script (or EXEC) which
uses the jar command.  I find:

On OS X:

 507 $ type java jar
 java is /usr/bin/java
 jar is /usr/bin/jar

On Solaris:

 133$ type java jar
 java is /usr/java/bin/java
 jar is /usr/java/bin/jar

OK.  Those are on my path.  on z/OS:

 136$ type java jar
 FSUM7422 java is not found
 FSUM7422 jar is not found
 137$ find /usr/lpp/java/J*/bin -name java
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin/java
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin/java
 138$ find /usr/lpp/java/J*/bin -name jar
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin/jar
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin/jar

Ouch!  It's release-sensitive.  Is it also, therefore, site-sensitive?
On Ubuntu Linux:

 889 $ type java jar
 java is a tracked alias for /usr/bin/java
 -ksh: type: jar: not found

No jar at all?  Maybe John M. can help me with this one.

Thanks,
gil

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Hi

Check your PATH and LIBPATH

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Nice article, high level - homegrown vs. vendor basically

2011-12-13 Thread McKown, John
http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/homegrown-solutions-the-good-and-the-bad-181268

quote
Once upon a time, when AS/400s roamed in vast herds and S/390s ruled the roost, 
just about all of IT was homegrown. Vendors didn't have solutions -- they had 
platforms, and you customized them to fit business needs. Applications were 
written from scratch and tightly linked to business needs, with infrastructure 
sized and configured to match.
/quote

Not in the least technical. But something that we've been saying here. About 
how vendor-only solutions lock you into their pattern. With little chance to 
excel.


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Re: Java apps have most flaws, Cobol is cleanest.

2011-12-13 Thread John Gilmore
The line

 Automatic, LIFO dynamic storage IS readily available in PL/I . . .

in my post is literal nonsense.  It should be

 Automatic, LIFO dynamic storage IS readily available in COBOL . . .

David Crayford wrote:

 I'm a rare bird in the z/OS sense in that I code in C++. I'm lucky enough to 
 have linked
 lists, sets, trees, vectors, queues, stacks, hash tables - not to mention 
 algorithms  as
 part of the standard library.

These C++  Standard-Library routines vary widely in quality, as do the
[vanilla] C Standard-Library routines.  Some are superb per se, and
others are mediocre.  They all have the defect of specialism.  In
working systems queues, say, are often imperfect examples of the ideal
type 'queue'; one must occasionally, for example, perform operations
more appropriate to a stack on them; and as soon as such requirements
arise their defects become apparent and their virtues disappear.
Reusability is desirable and possible, but C++ has not achieved it
meaningfully.

C++ programmers often accuse C (and other) programmers of writing
things that are too procedural; and in my view C++ is too
declarative; but discussions of this sort are seldom productive: they
turn into religious warfare.

All statement-level procedural languages share one generic defect:
They embody a particular episteme, a world view that makes some
questions meaningful and tractable and others, if not quite
meaningless, intractable, hard to talk about, because no conceptual
machinery for treating them is made available.

This, finally, is the rationale for resorting to assembly language.
It provides an escape from the parochial.   The Scots poet Blair noted
that archangelic visits to the earth, needed to keep things in order
here below, were and by implication could be short and far between;
and this is not a bad description of the rationale for
assembly-language subroutines.

Blair's line is usually mangled to come out few and far between,
which is repetitive or worse; and I imagine that what I have just
written will be misrepresented too; but I expect that.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

On 12/12/11, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13/12/2011 6:48 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
 I was aware of the presence of ALLOCATE and FREE in the 'new' COBOL
 standard

 This thread has wandered far from its initial topic, and perhaps it is
 time to let it expire quietly.  Frank likes variable-length tables.  I
 agree that self-defining tables like those achievable with the
 ALLOCATE and REFER of PL/I are desirable, but linked lists are
 essential; and until COBOL can do them it will not, in my view, have
 any proper claim to be classified as an adult language: move-mode
 processing schemes are juvenilia at their best.

 There are examples in the LE manuals on how to process linked lists in
 COBOL
 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.ceea200/cobbls.htm.
 If the language supports pointers and memory management then you can
 have linked lists.

 I'm a rare bird in the z/OS sense in that I code in C++. I'm lucky
 enough to have linked lists, sets, trees, vectors, queues, stacks, hash
 tables - not to mention algorithms  as part of the standard
 library. And they have been implemented by experts with PHDs in computer
 science (dinkumware). And I do trust them to implement top quality
 libraries.

 Without COBOL the mainframe is essentially dead as we know it. MAINFRAME
 = COBOL.


 Differences of this kind are one of the chief reasons why languages
 continue to get bigger and bigger.  As Justice Holmes put it long ago,
 If you like diamonds and I like rubies we have just three options:
 battle, compromise, or a jeweler who has both; and the jeweler who
 has both is obviously the politic choice.

 --jg

 On 12/12/11, Frank Swarbrickfrank.swarbr...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 ALLOCATE and FREE are part of the 2002 COBOL international standard
 (ISO/IEC
 1989:2002); a standard which IBM has made no commitment to implement...

 While certainly useful if you would like to build linked lists, I
 personally
 would much prefer dynamic-length tables and dynamic-length strings.

 Frank




 
 From: John Gilmorejohnwgilmore0...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:26 PM
 Subject: Re: Java apps have most flaws, Cobol is cleanest.

 Automatic, LIFO dynamic storage IS readily available in PL/I in the
 form of local storage.  In my experience it is not much used because
 misunderstood: people who attempted, uninstructed, to use it early on
 were dismayed when they discovered that successive subroutine calls
 did not  leave it in its last-used state.

 Based, non-LIFO dynamic storage that does persist in last-used state
 is available in COBOL only via LE calls.  (As I mentioned in another
 post these services are easy to rename perspicuously.)

 This situation may change.  IBM would object, strongly and correctly,
 to the notion that 

Re: zFS parm sysplex=filesys

2011-12-13 Thread Marna WALLE
Hi All,
As was mentionedthis migration action is only applicable if you have a 
shared file systems environment and are using zFS.  If you don't meet this 
criteria, you have no migration action to do.

May I also add (which no one mentioned so far), that if you are running the IBM 
Health Checker for z/OS, and activate and look at the output from check 
ZOSMIGV1R13_ZFS_FILESYS (available on R11 and R12), then this check will tell 
you whether 1) this migration action is applicable to you and 2) if it is 
applicable to you, whether you've correctly set sysplex=filesys on all the 
shared systems in preparation for R13.

-Marna WALLE
z/OS System Install
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Re: Portable jar command?

2011-12-13 Thread McKown, John
On my z/OS 1.10 system:

type java jar
java is /usr/lpp/java/J5.0/bin/java
jar is /usr/lpp/java/J5.0/bin/jar

On my z/OS 1.12 system:

type java jar
java is /usr/lpp/java/J5.0/bin/java
jar is /usr/lpp/java/J5.0/bin/jar

On both systems, I have multiple Java releases. Due to CICS/TS restrictions, I 
set up 1.5.0, 31 bit, as the default (not that we use Java, we don't). I am 
fairly sure that the type command finds whatever is on the ${PATH}. IBM's 
default subdirectories for all their Java releases is consistent. 
/usr/lpp/java/ is the base. The release is next: Jn.m[_64] Where n is the 
version (5 or 6 or 7), m is the release (seems to be 0 for now) and a suffix of 
_64 for 64-bit. No suffix for 31 bit. So J5.0 is JDK 1.5.0, 31 bit. J5.0_64 
would be JDK 1.5.0, 64 bit. Hopefully, whomever installs Java does so according 
to the IBM norms for the name. But they aren't forced to. I set up the ${PATH} 
in /etc/profile for Java. I also set up the ${JAVA_HOME} variable.

I don't use Ubuntu. And I don't use KSH. I use Fedora 16 (RedHat) and BASH:

type java jar
java is /usr/bin/java
jar is /usr/bin/jar

and:

ls -l /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/jar
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 21 Nov 11 13:26 /usr/bin/jar - /etc/alternatives/jar
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 22 Nov 11 13:26 /usr/bin/java - /etc/alternatives/java

ls -l /etc/alternatives/jar /etc/alternatives/java
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 39 Nov 11 13:26 /etc/alternatives/jar - 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/jar
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 39 Nov 11 13:26 /etc/alternatives/java - 
/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/java

ls -l /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/jar 
/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/java
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 38936 Oct 27 16:43 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/jar
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 38848 Oct 27 16:43 
/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/java

Whew! What a PITA. But, of course, it all depends on what is on the ${PATH}

One thing to remember. The jar command produces the same output as a zip 
command. A jar file is normally (when produced by a java compile) a zip 
file with a architected internal file structure. But it is physically a zip 
file. So the jar command can be used to create a normal zip file. Or to 
unzip a normal zip file.

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:51 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Portable jar command?
 
 I'd like to be able to write a portable script (or EXEC) which
 uses the jar command.  I find:
 
 On OS X:
 
 507 $ type java jar
 java is /usr/bin/java
 jar is /usr/bin/jar
 
 On Solaris:
 
 133$ type java jar
 java is /usr/java/bin/java
 jar is /usr/java/bin/jar
 
 OK.  Those are on my path.  on z/OS:
 
 136$ type java jar
 FSUM7422 java is not found
 FSUM7422 jar is not found
 137$ find /usr/lpp/java/J*/bin -name java  
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin/java
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin/java
 138$ find /usr/lpp/java/J*/bin -name jar   
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin/jar
 /usr/lpp/java/J6.0_64/bin/jar
 
 Ouch!  It's release-sensitive.  Is it also, therefore, site-sensitive?
 On Ubuntu Linux:
 
 889 $ type java jar
 java is a tracked alias for /usr/bin/java
 -ksh: type: jar: not found
 
 No jar at all?  Maybe John M. can help me with this one.
 
 Thanks,
 gil
 
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Re: zFS parm sysplex=filesys

2011-12-13 Thread Walter Marguccio
 From: Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com

 Subject: Re: zFS parm sysplex=filesys

 look at the output from check ZOSMIGV1R13_ZFS_FILESYS (available on R11 and 
 R12), 
 then this check will tell you whether 
 1) this migration action is applicable to you and 
 2) if it is applicable to you, whether you've correctly set sysplex=filesys 
 on all the shared systems in preparation for R13.

I did run the check and this is the output:


IOEZH0015I The ZOSMIGV1R13_ZFS_FILESYS check does not apply to single
systems. 
 

I don't know what the check implies with 'single systems'. In every case by 
reading the above
IOE* message, I could not evince neither 1), nor 2).
Maybe something like: this check does not apply with systems (or sysplexes) 
where SYSPLEX=NO
is coded in BPXPRMxx would hae been clearer.

What do you think ?


Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany

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Re: Portable jar command?

2011-12-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gil,

For a portable script that uses the jar command, I would first look in
$PATH, and then in $JAVA_HOME/bin.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

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Re: JCL sheesh! for today

2011-12-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1698154905956185.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
12/12/2011
   at 08:06 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

As in RC = BPXWDYN( ... )?

Exectly.

Well, RC really is a variable.

A variable with a misleading name and one that you are liable to step
on inadvertently when you add code.

 It has some special behaviors, as does SIGL.  (Others?

RESULT.

In OOREXX there are others, but AFAIK that's not available on z/OS or
z/VM.
 
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NSS and Datapower

2011-12-13 Thread Rob Schramm
Does anyone have any experience with NSS and Datapower that they would be
willing to share?

Thanks,

Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group

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Re: JCL sheesh! for today

2011-12-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:21:08 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In 1698154905956185.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
12/12/2011
   at 08:06 PM, Paul Gilmartin said:

As in RC = BPXWDYN( ... )?

Exectly.

Well, RC really is a variable.

A variable with a misleading name and one that you are liable to step
on inadvertently when you add code.
 
What would be a less misleading name?  LASTCC simply because
it's used by other utilities?

I used it quite in the spirit of its special use; an indicator of the
success or failure of the operation.  You might better fault me
for not checking for errors after the call.  But it's a test, and I
had trace R turned on.

-- gil

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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Are you supporting multi-volume consistency?

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 shai hess
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 9:47 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Fwd: case from DR in France.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Shai Hess mfnetd...@mfnetdisk.com
 Date: Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:45 AM
 Subject: case from DR in France.
 To: shai.h...@gmail.com
 
 
 **
 HI,
 
  Two days ago, I receive email with the title big problem for me ! help
!
 from customer from France name Will_fashion from France.
  The native host real disks were crashed.
 
 Luckily, the user use the replication MFNetDisk for its MF real disks.
 
  After few emails to me, the native disks were recovered using MFNetDisk
 replication feature which enable the user to mirror the host real disks
 to PC hard disks without and performance reduction in MF nor delay to the
 real disks in the MF.
 
  I just put the last words of the customer after the disks were recovered.
 
  thanks a lot for your FREE product and your work (i hope you can earn
 much money with it you deserve)
 I talk about your product in my job soon.
 
 So, if you like to have DR and disks backup always without MF performance
 issue nor real disk performance reduction nor delay, and to pay zero money
  for this product, it is time to use MFNetDisk replication feature.
 
 Thanks,
 God bless you.
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Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Mike Wood
One more thing no-one mentioned yet 
The format-9 DSCB contains the creating information. This requires a format-8 
DSCB rather than format-1.
So, going forward, hopefully, more data set will readily have that information 
in the vtoc.

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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread shai hess
The answer is no.
If there is crash on the system, all the requests tracks to be re sync are
written to bitmap file or send to PC for request Sync.
So, if the system crash, or the disk crash, the PC or the MF bitmap may
have the tracks which need to be SYNC.

If the disk return to life, the MFNetDisk will re sync the tracks again.
If the disk failed, MFNetDisk will not be able to re sync pending re sync
requests.

But if the disk crash, the multi volume DSN of group of DSN which must be
sync will not be available because one of its disk is not operational.
So, part of the DSNs will be recovered and the crashed disk will not and I
think that in this case if you do not use sync remote mirroring, you will
have to restore the DSN from backup or from loging if exist.

So, better if you have the money to use remote mirroring which doing the
sync mirroring and multi-volume consistency which may cost some money and
of course with delay in the IO performance.

If you want to have free product for remote mirroring but in case of DR to
be async for few seconds of IO operation, then you can try the free
MFNetDisk.
At least I can say that if you can not afford remote mirroring, better to
use MFNetDIsk.

MFNetDIsk can allow to take picture of the disks. You can let in specific
time to stop the update for seconds and let MFNetDIsk finish its re sync
for all its disk data to this time. Then you can stop the update of the
disks to MFNetDisk and in case of crash you have all the disks SYNC to the
specific time.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Are you supporting multi-volume consistency?

  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of
  shai hess
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 9:47 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Fwd: case from DR in France.
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Shai Hess mfnetd...@mfnetdisk.com
  Date: Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:45 AM
  Subject: case from DR in France.
  To: shai.h...@gmail.com
 
 
  **
  HI,
 
   Two days ago, I receive email with the title big problem for me ! help
 !
  from customer from France name Will_fashion from France.
   The native host real disks were crashed.
 
  Luckily, the user use the replication MFNetDisk for its MF real disks.
 
   After few emails to me, the native disks were recovered using MFNetDisk
  replication feature which enable the user to mirror the host real disks
  to PC hard disks without and performance reduction in MF nor delay to the
  real disks in the MF.
 
   I just put the last words of the customer after the disks were
 recovered.
 
   thanks a lot for your FREE product and your work (i hope you can earn
  much money with it you deserve)
  I talk about your product in my job soon.
 
  So, if you like to have DR and disks backup always without MF performance
  issue nor real disk performance reduction nor delay, and to pay zero
 money
   for this product, it is time to use MFNetDisk replication feature.
 
  Thanks,
  God bless you.
  Shai Hess, MFNetDisk product.
 
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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Or you may use one of the many flavors of asynch mirroring products with
multi-volume consistency that do not have a delay in the IO performance when
they transfer to the remote storage controller. XRC for example...

 
 So, better if you have the money to use remote mirroring which doing the
 sync mirroring and multi-volume consistency which may cost some money and
 of course with delay in the IO performance.
 

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HUMOR- OLD letter written to Datamation

2011-12-13 Thread Ed Gould
Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal
[ A letter to the editor of Datamation, volume 29 number 7, July 1983. I've 
long ago lost my dog-eared photocopy, but I believe this was written (and is 
copyright) by Ed Post, Tektronix, Wilsonville OR USA.
The story of Mel is a related article. ]
Back in the good old days-- the Golden Era of computers-- it was easy to 
separate the men from the boys (sometimes called Real Men and Quiche Eaters 
in the literature). During this period, the Real Men were the ones who 
understood computer programming, and the Quiche Eaters were the ones who 
didn't. A real computer programmer said things like DO 10 I=1,10 and ABEND 
(they actually talked in capital letters, you understand), and the rest of the 
world said things like computers are too complicated for me and I can't 
relate to computers-- they're so impersonal. (A previous work [1] points out 
that Real Men don't relate to anything, and aren't afraid of being 
impersonal.)
But, as usual, times change. We are faced today with a world in which little 
old ladies can get computers in their microwave ovens, 12 year old kids can 
blow Real Men out of the water playing Asteroids and Pac-Man, and anyone can 
buy and even understand their very own personal Computer. The Real Programmer 
is in danger of becoming extinct, of being replaced by high school students 
with TRASH-80s.
There is a clear need to point out the differences between the typical high 
school junior Pac-Man player and a Real Programmer. If this difference is made 
clear, it will give these kids something to aspire to-- a role model, a Father 
Figure. It will also help explain to the employers of Real Programmers why it 
would be a mistake to replace the Real Programmers on their staff with 12 year 
old Pac-Man players (at a considerable salary savings).
The easiest way to tell a Real Programmer from the crowd is by the programming 
language he (or she) uses. Real Programmers use Fortran. Quiche Eaters use 
Pascal. Nicklaus Wirth, the designer of Pascal, gave a talk once at which he 
was asked, How do you pronounce your name?. He replied, You can either call 
me by name, pronouncing it 'Veert', or call me by value, 'Worth'. One can tell 
immediately by this comment that Nicklaus Wirth is a Quiche Eater. The only 
parameter passing mechanism endorsed by Real Programmers is 
call-by-value-return, as implemented in the IBM/370 Fortran G and H compilers. 
Real Programmers don't need all these abstract concepts to get their jobs 
done-- they are perfectly happy with a keypunch, a Fortran IV compiler, and a 
beer.
* Real Programmers do List Processing in Fortran.
* Real Programmers do String Manipulation in Fortran.
* Real Programmers do Accounting (if they do it at all) in Fortran.
* Real Programmers do Artificial Intelligence programs in Fortran.
If you can't do it in Fortran, do it in assembly language. If you can't do it 
in assembly language, it isn't worth doing.
The academics in computer science have gotten into the structured programming 
rut over the past several years. They claim that programs are more easily 
understood if the programmer uses some special language constructs and 
techniques. They don't all agree on exactly which constructs, of course, and 
the example they use to show their particular point of view invariably fit on a 
single page of some obscure journal or another-- clearly not enough of an 
example to convince anyone. When I got out of school, I thought I was the best 
programmer in the world. I could write an unbeatable tic-tac-toe program, use 
five different computer languages, and create 1000 line programs that WORKED 
(Really!). Then I got out into the Real World. My first task in the Real World 
was to read and understand a 200,000 line Fortran program, then speed it up by 
a factor of two. Any Real Programmer will tell you that all the Structured 
Coding in the world won't help you solve a
 problem like that-- it takes actual talent. Some quick observations on Real 
Programmers and Structured Programming:
* Real Programmers aren't afraid to use GOTOs.
* Real Programmers can write five page long DO loops without getting 
confused.
* Real Programmers like Arithmetic IF statements-- they make the code 
more interesting.
* Real Programmers write self-modifying code, especially if they can 
save 20 nanoseconds in the middle of a tight loop.
* Real Programmers don't need comments-- the code is obvious.
* Since Fortran doesn't have a structured IF, REPEAT ... UNTIL, or CASE 
statement, Real Programmers don't have to worry about not using them. Besides, 
they can be simulated when necessary using assigned GOTOs.
Data structures have also gotten a lot of press lately. Abstract Data Types, 
Structures, Pointers, Lists, and Strings have become popular in certain 
circles. Wirth (the above mentioned Quiche Eater) actually wrote an entire book 
[2] contending that you 

Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread shai hess
Right.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Or you may use one of the many flavors of asynch mirroring products with
 multi-volume consistency that do not have a delay in the IO performance
 when
 they transfer to the remote storage controller. XRC for example...

 
  So, better if you have the money to use remote mirroring which doing the
  sync mirroring and multi-volume consistency which may cost some money and
  of course with delay in the IO performance.
 

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IBM SR availability problems

2011-12-13 Thread Knutson, Sam
We have seen recurring problems with SR yesterday and today hangs and
HTTP 500 Internal Server Error.

A ticked was put into the SR Helpdesk which is a completely unsatisfying
fill out the form and pray experience.

 

This is occurring for multiple users at multiple sites and no other web
browsing or support sites are experiencing difficulties.

IBMLink ETR is working fine and is our fallback.

Consider that SR is supposed to be highly available and ETR is slated
for sunset soon this is not reassuring. 

 

Is anyone else seeing problems with SR recently?

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Re: IBM SR availability problems

2011-12-13 Thread Martin, Larry D
I have had problems all day with SR.

.Larry

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We have seen recurring problems with SR yesterday and today hangs and
HTTP 500 Internal Server Error.

A ticked was put into the SR Helpdesk which is a completely unsatisfying
fill out the form and pray experience.

 

This is occurring for multiple users at multiple sites and no other web
browsing or support sites are experiencing difficulties.

IBMLink ETR is working fine and is our fallback.

Consider that SR is supposed to be highly available and ETR is slated
for sunset soon this is not reassuring. 

 

Is anyone else seeing problems with SR recently?

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Re: zFS parm sysplex=filesys

2011-12-13 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walter Marguccio
  From: Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com
 
  Subject: Re: zFS parm sysplex=filesys
 
  look at the output from check ZOSMIGV1R13_ZFS_FILESYS (available on
  R11 and R12), . . .
 
 I did run the check and this is the output:
 
 IOEZH0015I The ZOSMIGV1R13_ZFS_FILESYS check does not apply to single
 systems.
 
 I don't know what the check implies with 'single systems'. In every
case by reading the above
 IOE* message, I could not evince neither 1), nor 2).
 Maybe something like: this check does not apply with systems (or
sysplexes) where SYSPLEX=NO is coded
 in BPXPRMxx would hae been clearer.
 
 What do you think ?

 IOEZH0015I The ZOSMIGV1R13_ZFS_FILESYS check does not apply to
non-sharing systems.

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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread Ed Gould
 Has anyone noticed that we never hear from any of the contributors from the 
CBT ?

Ed

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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Really?

Mark Zelden
Jim Marshall
John Kalinich
Rick Fochtman
just to name a few that came to mind in 60 seconds

Bob

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 Has anyone noticed that we never hear from any of the contributors from the 
CBT ?

Ed

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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread Ed Gould
 Mark,

I was referring to pushing their code.

Ed

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Re: IBM SR availability problems

2011-12-13 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Sam, 



On the whole, my experience is that SR that it is much LESS available than ETR 
ever was. 

Just now, it took 11 minutes to get the IBM Service Request screen up.  It's 
all grayed out though, I can't select or do anything. 



Regards. 



Linda 

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From: Sam Knutson sknut...@geico.com 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:28:21 AM 
Subject: IBM SR availability problems 

We have seen recurring problems with SR yesterday and today hangs and 
HTTP 500 Internal Server Error. 

A ticked was put into the SR Helpdesk which is a completely unsatisfying 
fill out the form and pray experience. 

  

This is occurring for multiple users at multiple sites and no other web 
browsing or support sites are experiencing difficulties. 

IBMLink ETR is working fine and is our fallback. 

Consider that SR is supposed to be highly available and ETR is slated 
for sunset soon this is not reassuring. 

  

Is anyone else seeing problems with SR recently? 

        Best Regards, 

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Re: IBM SR availability problems

2011-12-13 Thread Brian Peterson
I am unable to use SR today, and I was unable to use the SR feedback link on 
the IBMLink ServiceLink home page either - same symptom for both applications 
(click on link, spinning circle in web browser, no response).

Brian

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Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mike Wood wrote:

One more thing no-one mentioned yet 

:-D

The format-9 DSCB contains the creating information. This requires a format-8 
DSCB rather than format-1.
So, going forward, hopefully, more data set will readily have that information 
in the vtoc.

Please be very kind to share any documentation/links/webpages/background info, 
if you wish? 

I have searched, but I must missed something obvious or in the wrong 
bookshelves...

... or I'm really that search challenged ... :-D

Thanks in advance for your very kind reminder about those VTOC formats. 

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: IRA103I SQA/ESQA HAS EXPANDED INTO CSA/ECSA BY 510 PAGES

2011-12-13 Thread Shaffer, Terri E
So overflow is NOT a bad thing assuming you have available growth and 
potentially want to maximum the private area, either 16M or 16M line.  
Remembering ECSA will overflow in CSA and ESQA will overflow into SQA. In 
looking at your numbers from the snapshot depending on your requirements for 
private area sizing, you could increase SYSD/E by 5M and 6M respectively.  This 
assumption is based on 93% of 8M and 95% of 8M which is about 7.4M total, give 
or take 200M, so even 5-6M each would work fine.

Thanks

Ms. Terri E. Shaffer 
terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com
Engineer
J.P.Morgan Chase  Co.
GTI DCT ECS Core Services zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies 
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Chokalingam Thangavelu
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: IRA103I SQA/ESQA HAS EXPANDED INTO CSA/ECSA BY 510 PAGES

Hi,

We have IPLed on October 31st 2011 and we have got 3 LPARS and below are
the SQA  CSA parms in IEASYSXX and current usage as per SYSVIEW.

SYSA LPAR'S IEASYSXX PARMS -

CSA=(2600,144M)
SQA=(7,24M)

Current usage - 

ECSA  68%
ESQA  73%
 SQA  30%
 CSA  30%


SYSD LPAR'S IEASYSXX PARMS -

CSA=(2600K,100M)
SQA=(448K,8M)

Current Usage -

ECSA  53%
ESQA  93%
 SQA  25%
 CSA  19%


SYSM LPAR'S IEASYSXX PARM -

CSA=(2600K,160M)
SQA=(448K,8M)

Current Usage -

ECSA  24%
ESQA  95%
 SQA  21%
 CSA  18%

How much ESQA  ECSA I may need to increase in all LPARS?

Regards,
Chokalingam Thangavelu


-Original Message-
From: Bobbie Justice [mailto:golds...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:12 PM
To: Thangavelu Chokalingam (WT01 - ENU)
Subject: Re: IRA103I SQA/ESQA HAS EXPANDED INTO CSA/ECSA BY 510 PAGES

first off ESQA (if it gets full) will overflow into ECSA

looking at your display, you currently have PLENTY of ECSA available. 

You could probably increase your ESQA by a little if you want to. 

What are your current parameters (both) in IEASYS* for SQA AND CSA? 

lastly, when was the last time you IPLed ? 

and fyi, if this is z/OS 1.11 or above, you need to take this note into
account. (from the z/OS migration manual) 

Description: In z/OS V1R11, each address space requires 1608 bytes of 
additional 31-bit Extended System Queue Area (ESQA) storage. The 
additional ESQA storage is allocated at address space create time and 
freed at address space termination time. Therefore, additional ESQA is 
only required for the typical peak number of active address spaces. 





 


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Re: IBM SR availability problems

2011-12-13 Thread Skip Robinson
I hate to be contrarian, but I've had no particular problem with SR nor 
with ServiceLink in general. (My entry into SR is always via the 
ServiceLink.) Be aware that the initial SR screen has changed. I could 
swear that it changed some time this morning in between my logon and a 
later return. (I remember complaining here a few weeks ago about a 
'Tuesday morning implementation'.) The most obvious difference is that the 
initial view used to be a single list of open SRs. Now there are two lists 
in separate boxes:

-- 'My in process service requests'
-- 'My recent open online service requests' 

I don't know how they're split. In my case there's only one SR in each 
box. I don't know if the change implementation affects some people's 
access, but my own seems to work fine. 


.
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SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
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I am unable to use SR today, and I was unable to use the SR feedback link 
on the IBMLink ServiceLink home page either - same symptom for both 
applications (click on link, spinning circle in web browser, no response).

Brian



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Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Bill Fairchild
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:43 PM
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DSN?

Mike Wood wrote:
The format-9 DSCB contains the creating information. This requires a format-8 
DSCB rather than format-1.

Please be very kind to share any documentation/links/webpages/background info, 
if you wish? 
I have searched, but I must missed something obvious or in the wrong 
bookshelves...

See SYS1.MODGEN(IECSDSL1) for the Format 1 through Format 9 DSCB DSECTs.

Bill Fairchild
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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:16:21 -0800, Ed Gould wrote:

 Has anyone noticed that we never hear from any of the contributors from the 
 CBT ?

No.

This month, Mark Zelden and Clark Morris referenced their 
contributions to the CBT tape.

You have made your views clear about Shai's contributions. 
Your last two posts were absolutely worthless.

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Re: JCL sheesh! for today

2011-12-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4958036703080127.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
12/13/2011
   at 09:27 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

What would be a less misleading name?

BPXresult? DYNresult? Anything that suggests that it is the result
from the BPXWDYN.

LASTCC simply because it's used by other utilities?

Definitely not, as it isn't a condition code.

I used it quite in the spirit of its special use; an indicator of
the success or failure of the operation.

Its special use is to indicate the success or failure of commands, not
of subroutine calls. I'd probably write something like

 call BPXWDYN 'free  dd(SYSUT1) msg(WTP)'
 call BPXWDYN 'alloc dd(SYSUT1) pathopts(ORDONLY) filedata(TEXT)' ,
'path('''CWD'/'TestDir'/X'')' ,
'recfm(V) lrecl(99) msg(WTP)' 

If I were testing the result then I might do something like 

   if result ¬= 0 then do
  say BPXWDYN 'returned' result
  exit
  end

or imbed the BPXWDYN in an IF:

if BPXWDYN('free dd(SYSUT1)msg(WTP)') ¬= 0 then do
  say BPXWDYN('free dd(SYSUT1)msg(WTP)') failed
  exit
  end

If I needed to retain the value for more than a line or two then I'd
call it something suggestive of BPXWDYN result.
 
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Re: Is there an IBM program that will tell me what job created a DASD DSN?

2011-12-13 Thread Richard L Peurifoy

On 12/13/2011 1:15 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote:

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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:43 PM
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DSN?


Mike Wood wrote:
The format-9 DSCB contains the creating information. This requires a format-8 
DSCB rather than format-1.



Please be very kind to share any documentation/links/webpages/background info, 
if you wish?
I have searched, but I must missed something obvious or in the wrong 
bookshelves...


See SYS1.MODGEN(IECSDSL1) for the Format 1 through Format 9 DSCB DSECTs.


It would have been nice to have the creating USERID as well, but it
doesn't seem to be there. There are 18 unused bytes in the attribute
data, so maybe it will be added at some point.

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Re: S402 ABEND upon cross-memory POST

2011-12-13 Thread Justin R. Bendich
Peter Relson wrote:

I share Rob Scott's concern about keys (i.e., system integrity) with the
approach that has been mentioned.

I do, too.
I am working with the designer to provide a better solution.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

Justin R. Bendich

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Re: How to easily see the contents of SDUMPX PSWREGS=

2011-12-13 Thread Justin R. Bendich
Back in March, Binyamin Dissen wrote:

Yes, I can VERBX SUMDUMP and see PSWREGS=DATA lines, but I would have expected
the register contents to be in 2.2. But 2.2 shows all registers as zero.

Am I missing something obvious?

I am trying to solve this problem, too.
Specifically, i am invoking SDUMPX to dump an address space with a SDWA.
This address space might or might not be the one which is calling SDUMPX.

I have the SDWA address and the ASID in which it resides. I would like a
way to tell DAE and IPCS about it, so they can analyze it. I passed PSWREGS
to SDUMPX (i wrote code to extract the PSW and registers from the SDWA),
and SDUMPX is not complaining about the format, but, as you've said, IPCS
doesn't seem to be interested.

Is there a way to do what we want to do?

Thank you as always,
Justin R. Bendich

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Re: How to easily see the contents of SDUMPX PSWREGS=

2011-12-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:50:51 -0600 Justin R. Bendich
jbend...@austin.rr.com wrote:

:Back in March, Binyamin Dissen wrote:

:Yes, I can VERBX SUMDUMP and see PSWREGS=DATA lines, but I would have 
expected
:the register contents to be in 2.2. But 2.2 shows all registers as zero.

:Am I missing something obvious?

:I am trying to solve this problem, too.
:Specifically, i am invoking SDUMPX to dump an address space with a SDWA.
:This address space might or might not be the one which is calling SDUMPX.

:I have the SDWA address and the ASID in which it resides. I would like a
:way to tell DAE and IPCS about it, so they can analyze it. I passed PSWREGS
:to SDUMPX (i wrote code to extract the PSW and registers from the SDWA),
:and SDUMPX is not complaining about the format, but, as you've said, IPCS
:doesn't seem to be interested.

:Is there a way to do what we want to do?

Curious to understand what you are doing. The abend occurs in A/S X and you
schedule the dump from A/S Y? How do you know that the SDWA or the related
data (in the other memory) will stay around?

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Re: zFS parm sysplex=filesys

2011-12-13 Thread Marna WALLE
Walter and John,
Thanks for the good suggestions for improved messages on a successful migration 
health check run.   I will pass them along.

The indication that the check did pass (I hope) would be enough to let you know 
that the migration action didn't affect you, even if the message wording could 
be improved.

-Marna WALLE
z/OS System Install
IBM Poughkeepsie

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Re: Determining MSUs

2011-12-13 Thread Hal Merritt
There are potentially lots of MSU values depending on the capping strategy.  
David's suggested display should show all of them to you. 
 

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On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 14:35 -0500, Phil Smith wrote:
 So if a customer doesn't know the MSU capacity of an LPAR, what's the 
 easiest way to find out?

RMF Monitor III, option 1.3?  (Overview - CPC)

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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread Don Imbriale
Give it up Ed.  Your keyboard does have a delete key, doesn't it?

- Don Imbriale

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Mark,

 I was referring to pushing their code.

 Ed



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Re: Fwd: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread shai hess
HI,
This month, Mark Zelden and Clark Morris referenced their
contributions to the CBT tape.

Just small fix, MFNetDisk is one man (me) product.
If I understand the meaning of their (more then one).

Thanks,
God bless you all
Shai

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.comwrote:

 Give it up Ed.  Your keyboard does have a delete key, doesn't it?

 - Don Imbriale

 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Mark,
 
  I was referring to pushing their code.
 
  Ed
 
 

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Re: case from DR in France.

2011-12-13 Thread Ed Gould

Don:

I have decided to change my email account so I can delete his entries  
and a few others.
The others that contribute to the list do not make a point of pushing  
their code. With him its a monthly push of his propaganda.

If you guys want to put up with his noise I will just delete his stuff.

Ed


On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Don Imbriale wrote:


Give it up Ed.  Your keyboard does have a delete key, doesn't it?

- Don Imbriale

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 Mark,

I was referring to pushing their code.

Ed




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Re: Nice article, high level - homegrown vs. vendor basically

2011-12-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
Packaged applications -- or whatever other term you'd like to use -- have
been around and popular since at least the 1960s. Many/most portfolios of
mainframe-hosted applications have always blended purchased applications
and application components (purchased libraries and frameworks, as
examples) with homegrown code, including contractor-written code.

However, a lot of people seem to have forgotten that fact. Moreover, that
history suggests the same thing will happen again, that today's (mostly)
packaged applications will evolve into tomorrow's homegrown applications --
or at least hybrid monsters -- as they evolve. There's plenty of evidence
that's exactly what's happening.

I have long argued -- and still argue -- that the mainframe is a uniquely
attractive application hosting environment from that point of view. You can
run valuable application code as long as you want, packaged or not, while
adding new, fully interoperable applications and application components as
quickly or as slowly as you want. Occasionally there are some people who
get in the way of that evolution and improvement, but that's not the
technology's fault. (And there are organizational ways to deal with that.)

The future is bright, too. Business processes are getting ever more
complex, more sophisticated. As usual, business demands are running ahead
of vendors' and programmers' ability to code. Rewriting will continue to
increase in cost, and consequently durable platforms should do well. And
perhaps we've just been through the Great Platform Shakeout of the Naughts,
which reminds me a lot of the passenger airliner industry.

We'll see, but I think the trends are pretty clear.


Timothy Sipples
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Re: Determining MSUs

2011-12-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
I like the RMF way. I think you can see MSU information in the (no
additional charge) z/OS Management Facility, too.

Although I work for IBM(*), does anyone happen to know how to find similar
MSU information in BMC's CMF, for completeness? That's just in case
somebody is trying to write documentation, for example.

(*) And my views are my own.


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