date:20120105

You probably meant idle BPXAS here. Furthermore, any non-idle BPXAS,
i.e. one that is currently hosting a forked process, also is of SMF type
OMVS and still shows up as STCn.

I wasn't sure about BPXAS. But no, I meant BPXOINIT. For the simple reason that 
there's some sort of type in the SMF30 records that kind of correspond to the 
SUBSYS stuff from SMF. And I had to classify them extra in the WPS(SAS) type30 
reporting to get them into the right grouping.

In fact, any application can report itsself to SMF as a SUBSYS with its
own name. Batchpipes and the STK HSC subsystem do so. Via the SUBSYS
statement in SMFPRMxx one can specify the specific SMF parameters for
this subsystem to use.
E.g.
SUBSYS(HSC0,INTERVAL(SMF,SYNC),TYPE(235))
 SUBPARM(HSC0(SUBTYPE(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10-29)))
See: http://www.mxg.com/downloads/chuck/mxgdummy.ppt 

Interesting. I didn't know that.

Barbara

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Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)

You probably meant idle BPXAS here. Furthermore, any non-idle BPXAS,
i.e. one that is currently hosting a forked process, also is of SMF
type
OMVS and still shows up as STCn.

I wasn't sure about BPXAS. But no, I meant BPXOINIT. 

I'm puzzled. There is only one BPXOINIT per system. BPXOINIT is started
by STC OMVS during initialization and becomes PID=1 of the UNIX system.
I would not consider this AS to be idle, since for me (in this
context) the term idle relates to an initiator AS that is waiting for
work.

For the simple reason that there's some sort of type in the SMF30
records that kind of correspond to the SUBSYS stuff from SMF. And I had
to classify them extra in the WPS(SAS) type30 reporting to get them into
the right grouping.

I never looked at the single type 30 record that gets written for
BPXOINIT when the system is shut down. But it kind of makes sense to me
that it is of SMF type OMVS.

In fact, any application can report itsself to SMF as a SUBSYS with
its
own name. Batchpipes and the STK HSC subsystem do so. Via the SUBSYS
statement in SMFPRMxx one can specify the specific SMF parameters for
this subsystem to use.

Interesting. I didn't know that.

Me neither (I may well just have forgotten it :-)

Peter

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Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Martin Packer

Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined 
(not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can 
guess (as I did) the origin of the subsystem. Anyone know anything about 
the subsystem? For some reason they have excluded SMF records with that 
subsys.

I see two problems/questions:

1) Getting address space counts out of RMF Type 70 Address Space Count 
section. They're there for TSO, STC etc but not for user-defined. I assume 
subtracting some of these from headline number would give (usually 0) user 
subsys address space count.

2) Wondering how WLM allows you to classify work from such a user 
subsystem. e.g. What qualifiers?

In general I just wonder what this thing is and how it behaves and how 
prevalent it is. Oh, and why it's a user-defined subsystem in the first 
place.

Cheers, Martin

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Re: IBM manual formats

2012-01-05 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:19:14 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

If ity won't run on my machine then LR is not easier to use and
doesn't offer me functionality. This is another case of IBM's split
personality; they claim to be pushing Linux, but lots of key features
are not available to Linux users.

That's exactly the point!

Jantje.

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Re: IBM manual formats

2012-01-05 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:00:27 -0600, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

FWIW, we use Linux on our desktops and have found that the following
process works fantastic for IBM manuals.  Something similar might be
possible on Windoze (or OSX) with a similar tool or under cygwin, but I
haven't tried it.

1) Use the DownLoadThemAll FireFox plugin to download all of the PDFs at
once

2) I wrote the following shell script which makes symlinks to the original
file names, using the PDF title.
This has the advantage that I can very quickly find a manual using find
file name in Nautilus, but the links between PDFs still work.

All fine and well, but you remain stuck to it being .PDF and not .BOO and hence 
you lack the ease of navigation (to name just one feature) Library Reader is 
offering.

3) We use Evince as a reader, which works much better if you have fast
processor and even better if you put your manuals on an SSD.
I supposed that you could also use a PDF indexer, like Google Desktop, but
And in the end it becomes a lot of work that used to be not needed at all when 
we still had Library Reader.

Sorry for insisting so much. I had to release some of the pressure due to my 
frustration...

Jantje.

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Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Rob Scott

Martin,

I have seen this at various sites as well, and thought that it was just the 
vendor's way of writing the user SMF records for tape silo performance.

For example, you can use :

SMFEWTM (Rx),SUBSYS==CL4'SILO',.

Maybe originally there was some other compelling reason for this - (maybe they 
used the SUBPARM facility?) or maybe it was just a way of forcing all SMF 
records for the tape silo to one place.

However, if there is NOTYPE(0:255) it seems sort of self-defeating.

  

Rob Scott
Lead Developer
Rocket Software
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Subject: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of 
SILO work?

Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined (not 
SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can guess (as I 
did) the origin of the subsystem. Anyone know anything about the subsystem? For 
some reason they have excluded SMF records with that subsys.

I see two problems/questions:

1) Getting address space counts out of RMF Type 70 Address Space Count section. 
They're there for TSO, STC etc but not for user-defined. I assume subtracting 
some of these from headline number would give (usually 0) user subsys address 
space count.

2) Wondering how WLM allows you to classify work from such a user subsystem. 
e.g. What qualifiers?

In general I just wonder what this thing is and how it behaves and how 
prevalent it is. Oh, and why it's a user-defined subsystem in the first place.

Cheers, Martin

Martin Packer,
Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of 
Excellence, IBM

+44-7802-245-584

email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

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Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM

Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com wrote in message
news:of81a0b4c6.95d34f88-on8025797c.002b1874-8025797c.003d0...@uk.ibm.c
om...
 Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a
user-defined 
 (not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can 
 guess (as I did) the origin of the subsystem. Anyone know anything
about 
 the subsystem? For some reason they have excluded SMF records with
that 
 subsys.
 
 I see two problems/questions:
 
 1) Getting address space counts out of RMF Type 70 Address Space Count

 section. They're there for TSO, STC etc but not for user-defined. I
assume 
 subtracting some of these from headline number would give (usually 0)
user 
 subsys address space count.
 
 2) Wondering how WLM allows you to classify work from such a user 
 subsystem. e.g. What qualifiers?
 
 In general I just wonder what this thing is and how it behaves and how

 prevalent it is. Oh, and why it's a user-defined subsystem in the
first 
 place.
 
 Cheers, Martin
 

Martin,

SMF will keep on writing the normal SMF records you mentioned for this
STC as for any other STC.

From the HSC0 it will accept the 235 records, but this will be the only
records the HSC0 will produce.
SUBSYS(HSC0,INTERVAL(SMF,SYNC),TYPE(235))
 SUBPARM(HSC0(SUBTYPE(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10-29)))
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DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread willie bunter

Good Morning To All,
 
I have a problem with a SMS managed storage pool which is increasing quite 
rapidly.  In this pool there is no ML2 migration .  We have Auto Migrate  Auto 
Backup turned on and INTERVAL MIGRATION.  
 
Below is the THRESHOLD which we are using for this pool.
 
Allocation/migration Threshold : High . . 75  (1-99)  Low  . . 3   (0-99)
Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:  High . . 85  (1-99)  Low  . . 1   (0-99)

If I lowered the THRESHOLD would that help and free up some space?
 
Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread Staller, Allan

Migration will begin when the SG occupancy exceeds the high threshold and 
continue until less than the SG low threshold, or no additional datasets are 
eligible for migration.
This is subject to additional constraints specified in the MGMTCLAS for 
migration eligibility.

IMO your low thresholds are too low causing thrashing (needless 
migration/recall of dataset due to interval migration), which will compound the 
. Your high thresholds seem pretty good. 

As presented, every migration empties the pool, and dataset reference fills 
it back up.

There is an art to setting thresholds. A thorough analysis, taking into 
consideration the MGMTCLAS(s), STORGRP(s), thresholds, relative data set sizes, 
and reference patterns needs to occur.

HTH,


snip
I have a problem with a SMS managed storage pool which is increasing quite 
rapidly.  In this pool there is no ML2 migration .  We have Auto Migrate  Auto 
Backup turned on and INTERVAL MIGRATION.  
 
Below is the THRESHOLD which we are using for this pool.
 
Allocation/migration Threshold : High . . 75  (1-99)  Low  . . 3   (0-99)
Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:  High . . 85  (1-99)  Low  . . 1   (0-99)

If I lowered the THRESHOLD would that help and free up some space?
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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Schneck.Glenn

Although there may be some 'success' stories the issue I have with most
vendors is where they tout - We migrated this company off the mainframe
and save 10,000+ MIPS.  In reality they probably moved a small
application of about 1000 - 2000 MIPS which happened to be the last one
on the mainframe.  

What is also interesting is that they only really changed the platform.
My questions are: What is the transaction rate?  What response time do
they achieve and/or expect?  What SLA do they have for availability?
How many staff is required to support the new environment?  Etc.

I have seen these 'migrations' or 're-hosting' and the final costs
usually end up higher than they were with the mainframe.  I know of a
company that ran their financials, AP, PO, Payroll, etc. on 9 total CICS
regions, 3 test, 3 QA and 3 Prod.  They decided that SAP was a better
way to go and started the migration.  Ended up with over 400 servers and
still have a small piece on the mainframe.  Need to do an upgrade?  Took
over 7 days.

Is there a place for products like this, as well as Alchemy and
Micro-Focus?  Yes.  But take it with a grain of salt.

Glenn

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Subject: Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

Last I heard, they were a relatively small Prop/Casualty insurer

Certainly not a State Farm, Prudential, Farmers, Allstate,.

Just the same, Clerity has had a few high profile successes doing
migrations.  The NYSE used the Clerity solution back in 2008 to migrate
a major trading application.  10 million lines of code were re-hosted
and a 1660 MIPS mainframe complex was retired.

So it can be done.  Back in 2004-2005, I was part of a small team at the
Washington State Department of Licensing that migrated the Driver and
Vehicle licensing apps off their UNISYS mainframe onto Windows Servers
running Fujitsu NetCOBOL.  This too was entirely successful.

I have heard good things about the Oracle solution which is built upon
Tuxedo.

There have been some big failures too.  It seems that you need to be
very selective about what apps you attempt to replatform.  CICS/DB2
seems to be the sweet spot.  But once you start introducing the
complexities of SYSPLEX, IRC, MRO, VSAM, DL/1, PL/I, etc. you are
heading into uncharted waters and need to be very careful.

My opinion is that such replatforming projects will continue.  But I
don't think IBM listers need fear, since I believe that the rate of
system programmer retirements will far exceed the rate of mainframe
platform retirements, at least for the next decade.

John
P.S I have no relationship with any migration vendors mentioned here.  I
used to work for Fujitsu/Amdahl/DMR, but that career ended in 2008.  Now
I am just an independent contractor.

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Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-05 Thread Kirk Wolf

Gerard,

Correct; the Co:Z Toolkit (Co:Z Launcher, Dataset Pipes, Co:Z SFTP, Co:Z
Batch) are free as in beer.
See:  http://dovetail.com/docs/coz/licenses.html

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 Kirk,

 I didn't mean to trivialize it, but it's not rocket science either.
 So what's the deal with Co:Z Launcher? Did someone say it's free as in
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread Hervey Martinez

If there is no ML2 migration then everything is migrating to the ML1 pool and 
the ML1 pool may be full; if so, then it needs to be expanded. Normally, ML2 
migration is governed by the management class; so, how do you keep this pool 
from ML2 migration? Also, Interval migration runs every hour on the hour 
provided that PSM  SSM are not running and it uses the mid-point of your hi-lo 
threshold; thus, your pool will start migrating around 36% capacity during 
interval migration.

Thanks,
 
Hervey
813.878.6097

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Migration will begin when the SG occupancy exceeds the high threshold and 
continue until less than the SG low threshold, or no additional datasets are 
eligible for migration.
This is subject to additional constraints specified in the MGMTCLAS for 
migration eligibility.

IMO your low thresholds are too low causing thrashing (needless 
migration/recall of dataset due to interval migration), which will compound the 
. Your high thresholds seem pretty good. 

As presented, every migration empties the pool, and dataset reference fills 
it back up.

There is an art to setting thresholds. A thorough analysis, taking into 
consideration the MGMTCLAS(s), STORGRP(s), thresholds, relative data set sizes, 
and reference patterns needs to occur.

HTH,


snip
I have a problem with a SMS managed storage pool which is increasing quite 
rapidly.  In this pool there is no ML2 migration .  We have Auto Migrate  Auto 
Backup turned on and INTERVAL MIGRATION.  
 
Below is the THRESHOLD which we are using for this pool.
 
Allocation/migration Threshold : High . . 75  (1-99)  Low  . . 3   (0-99)
Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:  High . . 85  (1-99)  Low  . . 1   (0-99)

If I lowered the THRESHOLD would that help and free up some space?
/snip

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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread DKM

The key lines for me are

We had a number of duplicate systems, most notably around policy and quote 
administration, and there were two technical platforms, Unix-based and 
mainframe

and

The mainframe applications 21st Century was migrating mostly comprised batch 
programs that perform calculations and stat-reporting.

So it was hardley a major migration from what I can tell. 

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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler

glenn.schn...@suntrust.com (Schneck.Glenn) writes:
Although there may be some 'success' stories the issue I have with most
vendors is where they tout - We migrated this company off the mainframe
and save 10,000+ MIPS. In reality they probably moved a small
application of about 1000 - 2000 MIPS which happened to be the last one
on the mainframe.

a couple bits from similar thread in (linkedin) Mainframe Exports
http://lnkd.in/2syFGU

Cloud Use Rises, Mainframe Usage Declines as Data Centers Grow and Green,
According to AFCOM Survey
http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20110330005393/en/cloud/disaster-recovery/data-center

from above:

Demise of the Mainframe: While historically one of the most critical
elements of any data center, today, mainframe usage continues to
shrink. While AFCOM predicts mainframes will exist forever in some
capacity, their prevalence has been severely diminished.

... snip ...

BM Sees A Big Boost As It Turns 100
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/28/143834727/ibm-sees-a-big-boost-as-it-turns-100

from above:

The company sold its PC business 6 years ago, and now, more than 83
percent of its business is services and software. Sign a contract with
Big Blue and you get consulting, cloud computing, servers, analytics,
even financing.

... snip ...

compared to mid-80s when top management was predicting mainframe sale
growth would double corporate revenue (from $60B to $120B, approx $252B
today) and instituted a massive building program to double mainframe
manufacturing ... this was at a point when there were already indicators
of mainframe business heading in the opposite direction ... and the
company goes into the red a few years later.

Note that in above, that remaining 17% revenue would include everything
else besides softwareservices (aka all kinds of hardware platforms)

note that in addition to failures migrating off of mainframe ... there
has also been some number of monumental re-engineering failures
... involving staying on the mainframe (any major change at all ... even
when not changing the mainframe)

as I've periodically pontificated in the past ... there are numerous
mega-datacenters around the world ... any one of the mega-datacenters
possibly having more aggregate processing power than current total
installed traditional mainframes.

estimated 10,000 mainframes at 4,000 to 5,000 customers around globe
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2010-08-10/news/27620495_1_mainframe-ibm-big-challenge

zEnterprise 196 can execute 50BIPs/second
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/01/ibm-unveils-worlds-fastest-microprocessor/

Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three
z196??

mega-datacenters have been quoted at half-million to over million
processors.

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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Roberts, John J

Although there may be some 'success' stories the issue I have with most
vendors is where they tout - We migrated this company off the mainframe
and save 10,000+ MIPS.  In reality they probably moved a small
application of about 1000 - 2000 MIPS which happened to be the last one
on the mainframe. 

Most of the benefits of re-hosting are not achieved until the mainframe is 
retired.  So the vendors don't trumpet a success until this is achieved.  In 
the case of the Clerity migration at the NYSE this was definitely accomplished. 
 In the case of WA DOL, another agencies apps remained behind, but DOL no 
longer contributed anything toward the cost of that platform.  That other 
agencies stuff was later retired and WA state no longer has a Unisys platform. 
 

What is also interesting is that they only really changed the platform.
My questions are: What is the transaction rate?  What response time do
they achieve and/or expect?  What SLA do they have for availability?
How many staff is required to support the new environment?  Etc.

In the case of WA DOL, the processing capacity was greatly increased, response 
time was improved, and availability has also improved.  Fewer staff are now 
used to support the apps.

I have seen these 'migrations' or 're-hosting' and the final costs
usually end up higher than they were with the mainframe.

This has not been my experience with the three successful migrations for which 
I was involved.

But there is a big downside to re-hosting you did not mention.  When you 
re-host with Micro Focus or some of the other tools, you end up in a another 
proprietary environment, even though you may be running on a seemingly open 
platform.  So if you want to modify or extend your newly migrated app, you are 
restricted to the migration vendor's tools.  For example, if you had a CICS/DB2 
app running on z/OS and then migrated to a Micro Focus Enterprise Server 
environment (on Linux or Windows) with MS SQL or ORACLE, then you would need to 
use the Micro Focus Net Express tools to maintain and extend the apps.  
Extending the migrated app with Java or C is only possible to a limited extent 
and not easy.

But if you had used the Fujitsu/Alchemy tools, you would have the ability to 
extend with VB.Net or C#, as well as NetCOBOL (since NetCOBOL generates Dot Net 
CLR compliant binaries).

BTW, Micro Focus is working on developing a full CLR compliant migration 
solution (to go with the new Visual COBOL), but they aren't there yet.

John

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Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

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 Gerard,

 Correct; the Co:Z Toolkit (Co:Z Launcher, Dataset Pipes, Co:Z 
 SFTP, Co:Z
 Batch) are free as in beer.
 See:  http://dovetail.com/docs/coz/licenses.html

 Kirk Wolf

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Re: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Mark Zelden

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:06:25 +, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com 
wrote:

Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined
(not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can
guess (as I did) the origin of the subsystem. Anyone know anything about
the subsystem? For some reason they have excluded SMF records with that
subsys.

I see two problems/questions:

1) Getting address space counts out of RMF Type 70 Address Space Count
section. They're there for TSO, STC etc but not for user-defined. I assume
subtracting some of these from headline number would give (usually 0) user
subsys address space count.

2) Wondering how WLM allows you to classify work from such a user
subsystem. e.g. What qualifiers?

In general I just wonder what this thing is and how it behaves and how
prevalent it is. Oh, and why it's a user-defined subsystem in the first
place.


Probably to pass data to the subsystem (SSI) that also gets defined as
part of the software installation.   There is no work coming from the 
subsystem to classify in WLM.  It's prevalent in any shop that has
used STK SILOs or newer libraries like the SL8500.  That's a lot
of shops in my experience, but is less now than it was say 15 years
ago from what I can tell.

In looking at a manual, I see there are 8 subtypes related to the HSC
component (robotics) and the virtual tape component - VTCS -
and ExPR (reporting / performance tool) can generate subtypes
10-29 (with some of the ones in that range not used).

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APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Sérgio Lima Costa

Hello List,

I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the first time, need 
execute this.

Here, is ZOS 1.12.

Can someone, give the way for do this ?

What is the manual that have information about this ?

Thanks.




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Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

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   at 07:07 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:

Please do show how this would look using APPC. I'm not familiar with
anything like your socket DD.

There was a suite of APPC utilities that included an FTP; I don't know
whether that's what he's thinking of.
 
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Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

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on 01/04/2012
   at 05:05 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said:

OK.  Except maybe the site defined DEST=SMTP ?

Yes; if you're routing the messages with DEST rather than a writer
name then you need to define it both to your JES and to your e-mail
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Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

In 01b201cccb2d$0cf4abf0$26de03d0$@mcn.org, on 01/04/2012
   at 02:06 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said:

I would assume that the writing of SMF Type 30 records would be
controlled by SUBSYS(TSO and SUBSYS(JESn statements -- is that
correct?

There are additional SUBSYS values and Type 30 has subtypes.
 
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Re: Copying a PDS to a similiar PDS (backup)

In CD1D59802B684ED295627099B45FFEAF@graham, on 01/04/2012
   at 08:01 PM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net said:

Found another JCL example and notes in another doc .. glaring errors
in  SYSUT2! SYSUT2 has to have exactly the same attributes as SYSUT1
i.e. RECFM,  LRECL, BLKSIZE, allocated CYLS, EXTENTS and BLOCKS,

They don't have to be the same.
 
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Re: APPLY RSU Question

The SMP/E manuals are here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/GIM2BK80

The general overview is you first do a RECEIVE. You then do an APPLY CHECK. 
Look at the output to check any problems or actions that you must do either 
before proceeding, or after finishing. Once you are comfortable with that, you 
do an APPLY to actually put the maintenance on.

Good luck. I hope you have someone in house with some SMP/E experience. It is 
not really meant for a novice. Even a very smart novice.

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 Hello List,
 
 I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the 
 first time, need execute this.
 
 Here, is ZOS 1.12.
 
 Can someone, give the way for do this ?
 
 What is the manual that have information about this ?
 
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Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Gerry Tracey

Hi Sergio,


I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the first time, need 
execute this.

Here, is ZOS 1.12.

Can someone, give the way for do this ?

//SMPEEXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6144K
//SMPCSI  DD   DSN=.GLOBAL.CSI,DISP=SHR  
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SMPLIST  DD SYSOUT=*   
//SMPRPT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM  DD SYSOUT=* 
//SMPHOLD   DD DSN=HOLDDATA,VOL=SER=G16501,LABEL=(4,NL),  
//  DISP=SHR,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920),UNIT=devt
//*   
//SMPPTFIN  DD DSN=PTFS,VOL=SER=G16501,LABEL=(1,NL),UNIT=AFF=SMPHOLD, 
// DISP=SHR,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920) 
//  DD DSN=PTFS,VOL=SER=G16502,LABEL=(1,NL),UNIT=AFF=SMPHOLD, 
//SMPCNTL  DD   *
  SET BDY(GLOBAL).   
RECEIVE .   

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Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Charles Mills

Thanks much, Barbara. Follow-ups in-line.

Charles

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Subject: Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

Charles,

 If *I* understand you right, then you're confusing SUBSYS as indicated in
SMFPRM and a subsystem defined to the SSI.
 The SMF SUBSYS types *I* am aware of are JESx, STC, TSO, OMVS, ASCH.
That's it. 

So, is it true that for SMFPRMxx SUBSYS(xxx,(... the only useful xxx are
the five or six types listed above? I say useful rather than valid
because I don't mean that SMF would necessarily generate an error for
SUBSYS(FOO( -- it might, I just don't care at this moment -- but it would
not be meaningful to specify. You might have an SSI subsystem named FOO, but
SMFPRMxx SUBSYS(FOO( would either be rejected or else would have no effect
on it or SMF. Right?

 TYPE30 can be written for any SUBSYS type. As can TYPE80. 100, 101, 102,
119:  
 If an application that is TYPE OMVS  ... has calls into DB2, then they
would get written for TYPE OMVS 
 if that address space was started using the USS interfaces for creating an
address space.

... and any SUBSYS(OMVS( statements would control whether they were written
and whether IEFU8x was called for those records, right?

 When in doubt, have your customer have one SYS statement that only
specifies the types that are to be written ...

In an ideal world, yes. In the real world, we are one of those $%%#$@$
vendors and we are dealing with some overworked, undertrained, junior
sysprog, and telling him or her make big changes to your SMFPRMxx sets off
little alarm bells that go this vendor's product is not worth getting fired
over. The more minimal a change we can *suggest* the better our chances of
success. This whole thing would be an easy problem if I could control the
SMFPRMxx. In many cases, I am trying to sort out a bunch of possible causes
of a problem, and so I need to know what their SMFPRMxx is saying (no
matter how illogically it may be coded) so that I don't go chasing after
the wrong problem. Hence these kind of obscure questions.

 HTH

Very much. Thank you.

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RES: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Sérgio Lima Costa

Hello,

Sorry about my bad experience, but, if I run this job that you send, the 
RECEIVE command Will modify something here ?
Like a library ?
If Yes, We need made a backup before, correct ?

Thanks again.

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Gerry Tracey
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 5 de janeiro de 2012 15:24
Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Assunto: Re: APPLY RSU Question

Hi Sergio,


I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the first time, need 
execute this.

Here, is ZOS 1.12.

Can someone, give the way for do this ?

//SMPEEXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6144K
//SMPCSI  DD   DSN=.GLOBAL.CSI,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPLIST  DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPRPT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM  DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPHOLD   DD DSN=HOLDDATA,VOL=SER=G16501,LABEL=(4,NL),
//  DISP=SHR,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920),UNIT=devt
//*
//SMPPTFIN  DD DSN=PTFS,VOL=SER=G16501,LABEL=(1,NL),UNIT=AFF=SMPHOLD,
// DISP=SHR,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920)
//  DD DSN=PTFS,VOL=SER=G16502,LABEL=(1,NL),UNIT=AFF=SMPHOLD,
//SMPCNTL  DD   *
  SET BDY(GLOBAL).
RECEIVE .

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread willie bunter

I should have mentioned that there is no ML0/ML1 migration in this pool as 
well.  PSM is only being run.  I understand that this is not a good thing but 
the client insists upon having NO migration of the dsns from this pool this 
woould explain why the Threshold is low.  Would adjusting the Threshold help 
eventhough there is no migration?

From: Hervey Martinez hervey.marti...@custserv.com
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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

If there is no ML2 migration then everything is migrating to the ML1 pool and 
the ML1 pool may be full; if so, then it needs to be expanded. Normally, ML2 
migration is governed by the management class; so, how do you keep this pool 
from ML2 migration? Also, Interval migration runs every hour on the hour 
provided that PSM  SSM are not running and it uses the mid-point of your hi-lo 
threshold; thus, your pool will start migrating around 36% capacity during 
interval migration.

Thanks,

Hervey
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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

Migration will begin when the SG occupancy exceeds the high threshold and 
continue until less than the SG low threshold, or no additional datasets are 
eligible for migration.
This is subject to additional constraints specified in the MGMTCLAS for 
migration eligibility.

IMO your low thresholds are too low causing thrashing (needless 
migration/recall of dataset due to interval migration), which will compound the 
. Your high thresholds seem pretty good. 

As presented, every migration empties the pool, and dataset reference fills 
it back up.

There is an art to setting thresholds. A thorough analysis, taking into 
consideration the MGMTCLAS(s), STORGRP(s), thresholds, relative data set sizes, 
and reference patterns needs to occur.

HTH,

snip
I have a problem with a SMS managed storage pool which is increasing quite 
rapidly.  In this pool there is no ML2 migration .  We have Auto Migrate  Auto 
Backup turned on and INTERVAL MIGRATION.  

Below is the THRESHOLD which we are using for this pool.

Allocation/migration Threshold : High . . 75  (1-99)  Low  . . 3   (0-99)
Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:  High . . 85  (1-99)  Low  . . 1   (0-99)

If I lowered the THRESHOLD would that help and free up some space?
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Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Hal Merritt

Technically, no. A receive just loads the updates. The APPLY CHECK also does 
not change anything. 

But that does not matter. You shouldn't be running on a live system and 
shouldn't be pointing to live datasets. 

The APPLY does change things. 

Yes, backups are a very good idea. Also, you'll need a promotion/backout plan. 



 

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Subject: RES: APPLY RSU Question

Hello,

Sorry about my bad experience, but, if I run this job that you send, the 
RECEIVE command Will modify something here ?
Like a library ?
If Yes, We need made a backup before, correct ?

Thanks again.

-Mensagem original-
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Gerry Tracey Enviada em: quinta-feira, 5 de janeiro de 2012 15:24
Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Assunto: Re: APPLY RSU Question

Hi Sergio,


I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the first time, need 
execute this.

Here, is ZOS 1.12.

Can someone, give the way for do this ?

//SMPEEXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6144K
//SMPCSI  DD   DSN=.GLOBAL.CSI,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPLIST  DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPRPT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM  DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPHOLD   DD DSN=HOLDDATA,VOL=SER=G16501,LABEL=(4,NL),
//  DISP=SHR,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920),UNIT=devt
//*
//SMPPTFIN  DD DSN=PTFS,VOL=SER=G16501,LABEL=(1,NL),UNIT=AFF=SMPHOLD,
// DISP=SHR,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920)
//  DD DSN=PTFS,VOL=SER=G16502,LABEL=(1,NL),UNIT=AFF=SMPHOLD,
//SMPCNTL  DD   *
  SET BDY(GLOBAL).
RECEIVE .

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Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Gerry Tracey

Hi Sergio,

Yes you will be updating libraries, especially when you do the subsequent APPLY.
It is always prudent to backup your system before you make changes.


Sorry about my bad experience, but, if I run this job that you send, the 
RECEIVE command Will modify something here ?
Like a library ?
If Yes, We need made a backup before, correct ?


Gerry

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Re: APPLY RSU Question

The RECEIVE updates SMP/E datasets, and may create some new ones. But it does 
not update any executables. It basically copies information from the tape into 
disk datasets which contain only data, not running programs.

But that is a very good point. Before I do any SMP/E work, I do volume level 
backups of my SMP/E volumes. I have volumes dedicated to SMP/E, to make this 
easier. That way, if everything goes bad, I can restore the SMP/E environment. 
I never do the restores after an APPLY because you then lose your tracking 
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 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sérgio Lima Costa
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 Subject: RES: APPLY RSU Question
 
 Hello,
 
 Sorry about my bad experience, but, if I run this job that 
 you send, the RECEIVE command Will modify something here ?
 Like a library ?
 If Yes, We need made a backup before, correct ?
 
 Thanks again.
 
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 Assunto: Re: APPLY RSU Question
 
 Hi Sergio,
 
 
 I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the 
 first time, need execute this.
 
 Here, is ZOS 1.12.
 
 Can someone, give the way for do this ?
 
 //SMPEEXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6144K
 //SMPCSI  DD   DSN=.GLOBAL.CSI,DISP=SHR
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //SMPLIST  DD SYSOUT=*
 //SMPRPT   DD SYSOUT=*
 //SYSTERM  DD SYSOUT=*
 //SMPHOLD   DD DSN=HOLDDATA,VOL=SER=G16501,LABEL=(4,NL),
 //  DISP=SHR,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920),UNIT=devt
 //*
 //SMPPTFIN  DD DSN=PTFS,VOL=SER=G16501,LABEL=(1,NL),UNIT=AFF=SMPHOLD,
 // DISP=SHR,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920)
 //  DD DSN=PTFS,VOL=SER=G16502,LABEL=(1,NL),UNIT=AFF=SMPHOLD,
 //SMPCNTL  DD   *
   SET BDY(GLOBAL).
 RECEIVE .
 
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Re: dynamic STEPLIB

2012-01-05 Thread John Szura

Sorry for the delay. Just joined this list. Tone Software provides a
dynamic STEPLIB product called Dynastep that will allow a different
STEPLIB concatenation for EACH ISPF screen and it is a real TASKLIB so
it will work for LOAD, ATTACH, LINK and XCTL as well as ISPF. The Tone
website is tonesoft.com.

On 7/22/2011 12:40 AM, Juergen Keller wrote:

hello folks,
this problem has been discussed in the past but it always comes up again. We are just
migrating to z/OS 1.12 and our old version of STEPLIB-command (something from CBT-Tape) does not
work any longer. So we have to migrate to a newer version found on the actual CBT-Tape. I hope it
will work. So why do we use dynamic STEPLIB? It does not make any sense to allocate a load-library
in LINKLST or STEPLIB of logon-procedures when only a handful of people are using it. And if you do
changes in the library-names you have to change a lot of things. So using dynamic STEPLIB is a very
good thing to use. But I know and use this more than 20 years. And I do not understand why IBM
does not offer an official way of doing this which is maintained with the approprate
z/OS release. There is a use for it and more use than some other things which are developed in the
past used by nearly noone :-(
regards Juergen

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread Staller, Allan

NO


snip
I should have mentioned that there is no ML0/ML1 migration in this pool as 
well.  PSM is only being run.  I understand that this is not a good thing but 
the client insists upon having NO migration of the dsns from this pool this 
woould explain why the Threshold is low.  Would adjusting the Threshold help 
eventhough there is no migration?
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread Hervey Martinez

Well, if there is no migration then adjusting the thresholds will not get you 
much. The only space that will be released will be from those files that are 
over-allocated or expired. In this case, then you have to look at the files to 
make sure that you have no un-cataloged files, these will take up space but 
will never go away. Also, if you have GDGs with an expiration date, these may 
stay around even though they are not in the base and this is governed by the 
rolled off gds action attribute in the management class; In other words, you 
have to get to know the data much better to determine if there is space that 
should be released. Another way to release space on a file is by the use of 
partial release attribute on the management class. Also, files that are 
Fixed instead of fixed-blocked will waste quite a bit of space.


Hervey

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I should have mentioned that there is no ML0/ML1 migration in this pool as 
well.  PSM is only being run.  I understand that this is not a good thing but 
the client insists upon having NO migration of the dsns from this pool this 
woould explain why the Threshold is low.  Would adjusting the Threshold help 
eventhough there is no migration?



From: Hervey Martinez hervey.marti...@custserv.com
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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

If there is no ML2 migration then everything is migrating to the ML1 pool and 
the ML1 pool may be full; if so, then it needs to be expanded. Normally, ML2 
migration is governed by the management class; so, how do you keep this pool 
from ML2 migration? Also, Interval migration runs every hour on the hour 
provided that PSM  SSM are not running and it uses the mid-point of your hi-lo 
threshold; thus, your pool will start migrating around 36% capacity during 
interval migration.

Thanks,

Hervey
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Migration will begin when the SG occupancy exceeds the high threshold and 
continue until less than the SG low threshold, or no additional datasets are 
eligible for migration.
This is subject to additional constraints specified in the MGMTCLAS for 
migration eligibility.

IMO your low thresholds are too low causing thrashing (needless 
migration/recall of dataset due to interval migration), which will compound the 
. Your high thresholds seem pretty good. 

As presented, every migration empties the pool, and dataset reference fills 
it back up.

There is an art to setting thresholds. A thorough analysis, taking into 
consideration the MGMTCLAS(s), STORGRP(s), thresholds, relative data set sizes, 
and reference patterns needs to occur.

HTH,


snip
I have a problem with a SMS managed storage pool which is increasing quite 
rapidly.  In this pool there is no ML2 migration .  We have Auto Migrate  Auto 
Backup turned on and INTERVAL MIGRATION.  
 
Below is the THRESHOLD which we are using for this pool.
 
Allocation/migration Threshold : High . . 75  (1-99)  Low  . . 3   (0-99)
Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:  High . . 85  (1-99)  Low  . . 1   (0-99)

If I lowered the THRESHOLD would that help and free up some space?
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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Tom Marchant

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500, Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:

Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

That's a six core processor running at a 3.3 GHz clock rate.  That 
translates to each core completing about 9 instructions per clock 
cycle.  I am skeptical.

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Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-05 Thread Mike Wood

Gerard, maybe something here may help .
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/unix/ported/
See ported tools and Tools and toys .

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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread zMan

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500, Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:

Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

 That's a six core processor running at a 3.3 GHz clock rate.  That
 translates to each core completing about 9 instructions per clock
 cycle.  I am skeptical.

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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread R.S.

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:

Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

MIPs/sec ???

Wll... Two errors in one statement

1. MIPS - this is singular! It is Million Instructions Per Second.
So MIPS is NOT plural of MIP.

2. MIPS is already per second, so MIPS/second means some CPU power
acceleration...

Regarding the speed on Core i7 - that's the proof why meaningless
indicator (of) processor speed is better explanation of MIPS,
especially when comparing differerent processor (and computer)
architectures. It more than 3 times more than the largest z196 (M80)
configuration. Even the most anti-mainframe bigots do not claim that
single i7 is faster than 240 mainframe CPs.

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Looking for a Utility to Re-Catalog Only the x Most Current GDG Generations

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Egle

We have an application that has recently been sunset, but we need to
keep some of the most recent data files that were created by that
application. Over the years that application has generated hundreds, if
not thousands of GDG files, some on DASD, some on Tape. 

 

What we would like to do is to uncatalog and delete all but the x Most
recent generations of these GDG base entries, freeing up a lot of disk
and tape space.

 

From a long time ago, I remember a utility of some sort which would use
control cards to uncatalog all generations of the GDG, modify the GDG
Base LIMIT to the number that you wanted to keep, , and then Re-catalog
only the x Most Recent Generation(s) of those files.

 

I thought I might find something on the CBT Tape, but without knowing
the name of that utility, I have come up empty so far.

 

Does anyone know of a utility like the one I am describing, and if so,
do you know where I can get a copy of it ?

 

Thanks

 

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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Denis Gäbler

Hi Tom,

if you click on the link it shows the following:
Up to 8 physical cores or 16 logical cores through Hyper-threading

 
The old Hyperthreading implementation was not really two logical cores per 
physical core (some things were shared such as the floating point unit), but 
Intel changed the implementation when AMD came up with the 6-12 physical cores, 
such that now Intel Hyperthreading logical core is performing much better and 
AMD comes not even close in termes of performance.

 
So if you calculate with an Hyperthreading enabled 6 core, you get 4,5 
instructions per clock cycle per core.

Denis.

 

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On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500, Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:



Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second



That's a six core processor running at a 3.3 GHz clock rate.  That 

translates to each core completing about 9 instructions per clock 

cycle.  I am skeptical.



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Re: Looking for a Utility to Re-Catalog Only the x Most Current GDG Generations

2012-01-05 Thread Herring, Bobby

If the GDG base is defined as scratch and you modify the GDG limit to x, 
everything greater than x gets scratched.

Or at least, that's how we have done this in the past.


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We have an application that has recently been sunset, but we need to keep some 
of the most recent data files that were created by that application. Over the 
years that application has generated hundreds, if not thousands of GDG files, 
some on DASD, some on Tape.

What we would like to do is to uncatalog and delete all but the x Most recent 
generations of these GDG base entries, freeing up a lot of disk and tape space.

From a long time ago, I remember a utility of some sort which would use 
control cards to uncatalog all generations of the GDG, modify the GDG Base 
LIMIT to the number that you wanted to keep, , and then Re-catalog only the x 
Most Recent Generation(s) of those files.

I thought I might find something on the CBT Tape, but without knowing the name 
of that utility, I have come up empty so far.

Does anyone know of a utility like the one I am describing, and if so, do you 
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Re: Looking for a Utility to Re-Catalog Only the x Most Current GDG Generations

2012-01-05 Thread Hervey Martinez

I don't know of a utility to do this but what you can do is get a list of all 
GDG bases in question and alter the limit to '1'; the system will delete all 
but the newest one.
 
You may want to this in batch otherwise, your TSO session will be locked until 
the task completes. 

 
Hervey


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Generations

We have an application that has recently been sunset, but we need to
keep some of the most recent data files that were created by that
application. Over the years that application has generated hundreds, if
not thousands of GDG files, some on DASD, some on Tape. 

 

What we would like to do is to uncatalog and delete all but the x Most
recent generations of these GDG base entries, freeing up a lot of disk
and tape space.

 

From a long time ago, I remember a utility of some sort which would use
control cards to uncatalog all generations of the GDG, modify the GDG
Base LIMIT to the number that you wanted to keep, , and then Re-catalog
only the x Most Recent Generation(s) of those files.

 

I thought I might find something on the CBT Tape, but without knowing
the name of that utility, I have come up empty so far.

 

Does anyone know of a utility like the one I am describing, and if so,
do you know where I can get a copy of it ?

 

Thanks

 

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Re: Looking for a Utility to Re-Catalog Only the x Most Current GDG Generations

No problem! For instance. You have a GDG which currently has 100 entries in it. 
You only want to keep the most current 10. How to do this?

//IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYOUT=*
//SYSIN DD *
 ALTER SOME.GDGBASE.NAME LIMIT(10)
/*

You're done! All the older generations will be rolled off and uncataloged / 
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 We have an application that has recently been sunset, but we need to
 keep some of the most recent data files that were created by that
 application. Over the years that application has generated 
 hundreds, if
 not thousands of GDG files, some on DASD, some on Tape. 
 
  
 
 What we would like to do is to uncatalog and delete all but the x Most
 recent generations of these GDG base entries, freeing up a lot of disk
 and tape space.
 
  
 
 From a long time ago, I remember a utility of some sort which 
 would use
 control cards to uncatalog all generations of the GDG, modify the GDG
 Base LIMIT to the number that you wanted to keep, , and then 
 Re-catalog
 only the x Most Recent Generation(s) of those files.
 
  
 
 I thought I might find something on the CBT Tape, but without knowing
 the name of that utility, I have come up empty so far.
 
  
 
 Does anyone know of a utility like the one I am describing, and if so,
 do you know where I can get a copy of it ?
 
  
 
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PDSLOAD problem with CBT Tape Version 483 (and previous)

2012-01-05 Thread Sam Golob


Hi Folks,

This was a SMALL problem, but significant nevertheless.

PDSLOAD, the program to restore pds members from the tape archive, 
into real pds'es, has member validity check code in it.  In other 
words, PDSLOAD will not restore a member from sequential IEBUPDTE-like 
format if it has an invalid member name.  This created a small 
immediate problem, because the X'C0' or open curly bracket character, 
was not included in the translate table (label ALPHANUM) that checks for 
valid membername characters.  As a result, two files, FILE 183 and FILE 
751, which have member names containing this character, were affected.  
The TAPEMAP that has been posted on the CBT Tape site www.cbttape.org 
will show ALL members, even if they contain invalid characters.


The following measures were taken by me thus far.  (I am trying to 
be careful about this, because the PDSLOAD program appears in many 
places on the CBT Tape.) 

1.  I added the X'C0' character as a valid character in the ALPHANUM 
table of the PDSLOAD source on File 093.


2.  I wrote an explanation about this, on File 093 (posted on the 
Updates page of www.cbttape.org), in member name DOC8.


3.  I updated Files 093, 035, and 135 on the Updates page, with the 
updated source and load modules, respectively.


4.  I restored the lost members in File 183 and File 751 on the CBT 
directory.


5.  If you want to get rid of the member validity test in PDSLOAD 
altogether, I put a commented instruction in the source code of member 
PDSLOADW on File 093 of the Updates page, to branch to new label 
BYPVALID.  If you need this change, you can uncomment that instruction 
and assemble for yourself.  But I haven't updated the load module 
libraries File 035 and File 135 to make this a default, as yet.  (Being 
cautious.)


6.  I am continuing to test PDSLOAD with the member name validity test 
being bypassed, using an SMP/E SCDS dataset, and such similar pds'es, 
containing invalid members.


If anybody is interesting in investigating the LISTPDS, OFFLOAD, 
PDSLOAD processing scenario, focusing on testing pds'es with invalid 
member names, please let me know about your results.


Thanks much.

All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely, Sam Golob

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Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Schwarz, Barry A

Every maintenance tape I receive from IBM has always had a small document which 
includes sample JCL and a description of the files on the tape.  Did you not 
get one?  If not, you should be able to request one based on the order number 
printed on the external tape label.

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 Subject: APPLY RSU Question

 I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the first time, need
 execute this.

 Here, is ZOS 1.12.

 Can someone, give the way for do this ?

 What is the manual that have information about this ?

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Re: How to find a PDS member

2012-01-05 Thread Schwarz, Barry A

If you really have no idea what the HLQ is, you can just use 3.4 with the 29 
simplest, A*, B*, ..., Z*, @*, #*, $*.   Not sophisticated and only works if 
the dataset is catalogued.

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 OK, thanks, 'member' is the ticket!

 Downside is that Dsname Level is mandatory implying some knowledge of the
 high level qualifier. I happened to know that IGYCOP* is what I wanted so
 found my members. In the real world am not sure this is a downside?

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Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Eric Bielefeld

Sergio,

You've gotten several good replies.  I'm curious.  Do you have any SMP/E 
experience?  From the question, and one of your answers, I'd guess that you 
don't.  If no one where you work has SMP/E experience, I'd suggest getting a 
consultant to do this.  Most systems programmers learn by being trained by 
experienced people.  I know I learned that way.  Upgrading a system with 
maintenance is not that hard if you know what to do, but if you don't, there 
are many things that can go wrong.

One thing no one mentioned is you need to make a complete backup of your IPL 
volume, or volumes.  All of the SMP work is then done on the copy of the IPL 
pack.  As a few have mentioned, NEVER update the live system

Good luck! 

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 Here, is ZOS 1.12.
 
 Can someone, give the way for do this ?
 
 What is the manual that have information about this ?
 
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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Shane

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500 Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:

 Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
 
 or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three
 z196??

Explains why my laptop always feels so damn heavy.

Shane ...

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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Graham Harris

 Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

 or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three
 z196??


Interesting to read the cited reference against the claimed 180BIPS/sec
 (/sec ??!!)


Synthetic Benchmarks

Synthetic benchmarks.are wellsynthetic and do not get your work
done for you. These don't necessarily mean anything when it comes to
desktop performance in real life, but certainly there is value to be
gleaned from these by enthusiasts. These are also the easiest benchmarks to
run when it comes to seeing if your system at home is measuring up.



On 5 January 2012 23:08, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500 Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:

  Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
 
  or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three
  z196??

 Explains why my laptop always feels so damn heavy.

 Shane ...

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ACF2/RACF User Appliation Logical Access

2012-01-05 Thread Henke, George

Does anyone know how ACF2 validates a users access to specific applications?

Recently we tried to migrate from ACF2 to RACF and were forced to fallback 
because ACF2 was somehow *wildcarding* a user's access to applications whereas 
RACF was iterating through a list of applications.

The resulting overhead across 1000's of users exhausted memory leaving no room 
for LSQA and producing 878 abends.



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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Sam Siegel

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote:

  Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
 
  or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three
  z196??


 Interesting to read the cited reference against the claimed 180BIPS/sec
  (/sec ??!!)


 Synthetic Benchmarks

 Synthetic benchmarks.are wellsynthetic and do not get your work
 done for you. These don't necessarily mean anything when it comes to
 desktop performance in real life, but certainly there is value to be
 gleaned from these by enthusiasts. These are also the easiest benchmarks to
 run when it comes to seeing if your system at home is measuring up.


Hm  Maybe they need to run a LSPR for those CPUs.




 On 5 January 2012 23:08, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:

  On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500 Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:
 
   Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
  
   or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three
   z196??
 
  Explains why my laptop always feels so damn heavy.
 
  Shane ...
 
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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Chris Craddock

On Jan 5, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote:

 Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second
 
 or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three
 z196??
 
 
 Interesting to read the cited reference against the claimed 180BIPS/sec
 (/sec ??!!)
 
 Synthetic Benchmarks
 
 Synthetic benchmarks.are wellsynthetic and do not get your work
 done for you. These don't necessarily mean anything when it comes to
 desktop performance in real life, but certainly there is value to be
 gleaned from these by enthusiasts. These are also the easiest benchmarks to
 run when it comes to seeing if your system at home is measuring 

True enough. Nevertheless it would be unwise to conclude that said processors 
are not actually capable of delivering work in the Real World(tm). There's no 
telling what the absolute performance will be in any given situation, but those 
i7 CPUs have more than enough horsepower for most things you would ever want to 
do - even in a server configuration. We aren't talking about old fashioned PC 
weenies here. These things rock. 

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Identifying SOA Workloads for zIIP zAAP Offload

2012-01-05 Thread Henke, George

Does anyone know how best to identify Service Oriented Architecture (SOA) 
workloads (XML) that are processing on the MF using GPPs.

Being  eligible for zIIP zAAP, they are good candidates for offloading.

I just don't know a good way to identify them on an existing mainframe.

Maybe SMF, RMF, Enclaves?

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Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#20 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with 
Clerity

other measures TPC-C:
http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp

ibm has six in the top ten ... power ... but also @#8#10 using (older)
quad-core Xeon (but they are also the lowest price/tpmC)

TPC benchmarks:
http://www.tpc.org/information/benchmarks.asp
early history
http://www.tpc.org/information/who/gray.asp
past posts mentioning original sql/relational implementations in
bldg. 28 ... some of the time with Jim:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr


guess as to z196 comparison (from older z10  nehalem comparison):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboHercules#Performance

from above:

...we can run a reasonably sized load (800MIPS with our standard
package). If the machine in question is larger than that, we can scale
to 1600MIPS with our quad Nehalem based package and we have been
promised an 8 way Nehalem EX based machine early next year that should
take us to the 3200MIPS mark. Anything bigger than that is replicated by
a collection of systems.

... snip ...

and:

Current high end System z10 systems are capable of performance up to
around 28,000 MIPS (for aggregate performance of many CPUs in a fully
configured 64-CPU multiprocessor server), so Hercules is outperformed by
almost one order of magnitude. However, Hercules on a PC costs several
orders of magnitude less[citation needed] than those high end System z
systems.

... snip ...

z196 has been been claimed to be 50% faster than Z10 or 42BIPS ...
however reference claims z196 peak at 50BIPS (possibly larger number of
CPUs?) ... aka
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/01/ibm-unveils-worlds-fastest-microprocessor/

TurboHercules runs possibly 10 native intel instructions for every
emulated mainframe instruction ... and emulated 3.2BIPS mainframe with
8way Nehalem EX ... then is 32BIPS native (compared to z196 peak
50BIPS).

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Re: How to find a PDS member

2012-01-05 Thread Graham Hobbs

I did, bit laborious, but just poking around I saw HLQ's that started to 
mean something. Plus the list gave me 'srchfor' and 'member' - pearls of 
wisdom. And for an oldtime app developer, if it aint catalogued it dont 
exist.


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If you really have no idea what the HLQ is, you can just use 3.4 with the 
29 simplest, A*, B*, ..., Z*, @*, #*, $*.   Not sophisticated and only 
works if the dataset is catalogued.



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OK, thanks, 'member' is the ticket!

Downside is that Dsname Level is mandatory implying some knowledge of the
high level qualifier. I happened to know that IGYCOP* is what I wanted so
found my members. In the real world am not sure this is a downside?


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Re: Identifying SOA Workloads for zIIP zAAP Offload

2012-01-05 Thread Graham Harris

RMF TYPE72's will give a good indication of what service classes/report
classes contain zAAP  zIIP eligible workloads.

What you should however be aware of, is that some vendor code does not
necessarily create enclaves (which are often [but not always] used as the
container bestowing the zIIP/zAAP eligibility) if the zIIP/zAAP engines are
not actually present on your machine.  I dont think any base IBM code
generally behaves in that manner, but I have only a limited exposure to a
small subset of zIIP/zAAP eligible workloads, and there are undoubtedly
others lurking here who are probably better able to comment on that.

You can also have a 'quick look see' in SDSF 'ENC' command to display
currently running enclaves, and that may also shed some light on the
subject by looking at the columns to the far right, assuming there are
actually some relevant enclaves being generated, and you manage to catch
them 'in-flight'.
Similarly, there are zXXP columns in SDSF 'DA' which may also help show
tasks which are clocking up zXXP-eligible CPU.

And there's also RMF3 'PU', but will be of limited use if you have no zXXP
engines present, as you will only be able to see TCB-related zXXP-eligible
CPU, which may or may not be relevant to what you are looking for.

All the above does assume PROJECTCPU=YES is present in IEAOPTxx, if indeed
this is still relevant in the latest z/OS releases (memory fails me on that
point).



On 6 January 2012 00:31, Henke, George george.he...@hp.com wrote:

 Does anyone know how best to identify Service Oriented Architecture (SOA)
 workloads (XML) that are processing on the MF using GPPs.

 Being  eligible for zIIP zAAP, they are good candidates for offloading.

 I just don't know a good way to identify them on an existing mainframe.

 Maybe SMF, RMF, Enclaves?

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Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

I'm puzzled. There is only one BPXOINIT per system. BPXOINIT is started
by STC OMVS during initialization and becomes PID=1 of the UNIX system.
I would not consider this AS to be idle, since for me (in this
context) the term idle relates to an initiator AS that is waiting for
work.
You know how ignorant I am about USS, don't you? I went under the assumption 
that if it has the word INIT in the jobname, it must be idle. 
When I classified all jobs/STCs on our systems into 'workloads' (while 
maintaining the individual asid data) BPXAS was something that got classified 
to OMVS right away. BPXOINIT, on the other hand, I only found when I looked at 
the 'leftovers' that weren't classified. So just forget 'idle' and blame it on 
my ignorance :-)

I never looked at the single type 30 record that gets written for
BPXOINIT when the system is shut down. But it kind of makes sense to me
that it is of SMF type OMVS.
Exactly. It also didn't use much cpu, IIRC.

Barbara

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Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

So, is it true that for SMFPRMxx SUBSYS(xxx,(... the only useful xxx are
the five or six types listed above? I say useful rather than valid
because I don't mean that SMF would necessarily generate an error for
SUBSYS(FOO( -- it might, I just don't care at this moment -- but it would
not be meaningful to specify. You might have an SSI subsystem named FOO, but
SMFPRMxx SUBSYS(FOO( would either be rejected or else would have no effect
on it or SMF. Right?

I cannot say with surety. I would have said an unequivocal yes before this 
discussion, but as Kees pointed out, anyone can report themselves as an SMF 
subsystem. And as Rob showed us, the one who writes the SMF record via SMFEWTM 
specifies the subsystem it is written for.

My understanding has always been (but I might be wrong) that there are the 
aforementioned types. Those are the ones IBM writes SMF records for (note that 
I say IBM to include DB2, CICS, TCPIP ...). The individual (SSI) subsystem is 
differentiated by a) the SMF record number and b) some fields inside the DB2 
record that tell you *which* of the 23 DB2s writing 10x records actually wrote 
*this one*.

Then there are *user* SMF record numbers. Those would only be written by the 
application who *owns* those SMF records (look at the MXG files to see the 
variety). In my opinion, it doesn't make any sense to specify any extra 
subsystem for those when the distinction is already made via the SMF record 
number. Hence my advise to specify the types to be collected via the SYS 
statement (but I do get your point of not having control over convoluted, 
hysterically grown settings at a customer side tha nobody knows whatever they 
were for).

Then again, there might be reasons for having an SMF subsystem name in addition 
to an SSI subsystem name that are lost in history. That the name is identical 
is probably only to make it easier to know that they belong together. Or those 
that designed the SMF subsys to use their own name had no clue why they were 
doing that and just wanted to be on the safe side. Who knows.

... and any SUBSYS(OMVS( statements would control whether they were written
and whether IEFU8x was called for those records, right?
The exit part of the subsys statement would control if the smf exit gets 
called. Which types are written for subsys OMVS would only be controlled via 
the SUBSYS statement if there are extra TYPE subparms in the SUBSYS statement 
that are different from the SYS statement (and I would need to go and read to 
see if this were additive or subtractive to the other statement).

In addition, the dynamic exit facility relies on the types mentioned above. 
Only these types are defined (by IBM) to the exit facility so that a customer 
can specify an SMF exit to a certain subsys/exit combination.

In an ideal world, yes. In the real world, we are one of those $%%#$@$
vendors and we are dealing with some overworked, undertrained, junior
sysprog, and telling him or her make big changes to your SMFPRMxx sets off
little alarm bells that go this vendor's product is not worth getting fired
over. The more minimal a change we can *suggest* the better our chances of
success. This whole thing would be an easy problem if I could control the
SMFPRMxx. In many cases, I am trying to sort out a bunch of possible causes
of a problem, and so I need to know what their SMFPRMxx is saying (no
matter how illogically it may be coded) so that I don't go chasing after
the wrong problem. Hence these kind of obscure questions.

I understand. I think I have a dim memory that when I came here I did some 
cleanup to the SMF parms used here, as well, to make them easier to understand.

Even if you think you know what you're doing, it isn't easy to make changes. 
There is too much angst going around that some obscure setting (that nobody 
knows anymore why it was here in the first place) might be needed.  (Point in 
case: I had the audacity to ask why we have an IEFSSN subsystem called FDR 
which was causing abend0C4s in the IMF startup when we migrated to 1.12. 
Removing the SSI entry prevented the 0C4. Functionality wasn't impaired. We 
couldn't find a reason in the books what the SSI entry is needed for. They 
respecified the entry after migrating to a new release. Banging my head against 
a wall. Aua.) 

Barbara

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Re: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?