Re: CA-TPX and SMF question

2010-11-03 Thread Kirk Talman
2 decades ago, when I was a TPX developer, they were SaveAreaControlBlock. 
 They were getmained at startup below the line and chained together.  They 
contained a savearea and two 6 word workareas used by variable management. 
 The available chain was anchored in the SMRT or the SMRT extension.

I had code to move some of them above the line and to create stacks but it 
was never implemented before CA bought out Legent.

There should be an TPXOPER command that gives you what you want.

For building exits, is there a macro for the SMRT?

Oh how I wish we used TPX here.  Switch has bugs I remember fixing in TPX.

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/28/2010 
05:23:16 PM:

 From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com

 Hi list,

 I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I 
 thought I'd come here.  In the TPX SMF records -specifically the 
 interval and shutdown records - there is a section that has SACB 
 statistics.  It has 2 fields in it, current SACBs in use and the 
 SACB high water mark.  Can somebody tell me just what the SACB is?

 What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum
 number of concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined
 to TPX.  If I can't get that, the max number of terminal sessions 
 signed onto TPX concurrently.  I'm hoping the SACB field is the 
 latter of these.

 TIA.

 Rex


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Re: CA-TPX and SMF question

2010-11-03 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hi Kirk, and others,

Yes, TPX has a macro to define the SMRT.  The documentation (systems 
programmer's guide) also has layouts of the SMF records.  The doc talks about 
fields called MONSACBC and MONSACBH, defined as current SACBs and SACB high 
water mark.  Unfortunately, that's the extent of the definitions.  Hence my 
question to the group.

Also, yes, there is a TPXOPER command that will give me a snapshot of what I 
want.  But since we are looking for trending information rather than a one-time 
snapshot, I needed something that wouldn't require me to sit at a terminal and 
keep hitting the enter key to get me the info.

A developer from CA contacted me offline and gave me a much better definition 
of what the SACB is and what it does.  The information he gave me showed me 
that I was looking in the wrong place, and he then pointed me to a different 
SMF record that did give me the info I was looking for.  In the session 
interval record, there is a field called M9UCNT that shows the number of 
sessions currently attached to an application.  It gave me the info I needed, 
once I turned on interval recording.  :-)

Rex

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Subject: Re: CA-TPX and SMF question

2 decades ago, when I was a TPX developer, they were SaveAreaControlBlock.
 They were getmained at startup below the line and chained together.  They
contained a savearea and two 6 word workareas used by variable management.
 The available chain was anchored in the SMRT or the SMRT extension.

I had code to move some of them above the line and to create stacks but it
was never implemented before CA bought out Legent.

There should be an TPXOPER command that gives you what you want.

For building exits, is there a macro for the SMRT?

Oh how I wish we used TPX here.  Switch has bugs I remember fixing in TPX.

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/28/2010
05:23:16 PM:

 From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com

 Hi list,

 I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I
 thought I'd come here.  In the TPX SMF records -specifically the
 interval and shutdown records - there is a section that has SACB
 statistics.  It has 2 fields in it, current SACBs in use and the
 SACB high water mark.  Can somebody tell me just what the SACB is?

 What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum
 number of concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined
 to TPX.  If I can't get that, the max number of terminal sessions
 signed onto TPX concurrently.  I'm hoping the SACB field is the
 latter of these.

 TIA.

 Rex


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Re: CA-TPX and SMF question

2010-11-03 Thread Scott Barry
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/28/2010
05:23:16 PM:

 From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com

 Hi list,

 I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I
 thought I'd come here.  In the TPX SMF records -specifically the
 interval and shutdown records - there is a section that has SACB
 statistics.  It has 2 fields in it, current SACBs in use and the
 SACB high water mark.  Can somebody tell me just what the SACB is?

 What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum
 number of concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined
 to TPX.  If I can't get that, the max number of terminal sessions
 signed onto TPX concurrently.  I'm hoping the SACB field is the
 latter of these.

 TIA.

 Rex



With SAS (or WPS) and MXG, I expect that you can derive this metric from the
Application LOGON/LOGOFF (or alternatively Terminal SIGNON/SIGNOFF) TPX SMF
record type/subtype combinations, using the MXG-unique VMXGCNCR macro
facility.  Otherwise with the TPX data-source record types, you may be able
to use some other data analysis tool to generate the desired information.


Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: CA-TPX and SMF question

2010-11-03 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Scott,

If I needed to be exact, and wanted to parse through every logon/logoff to keep 
count of how many are logged on at a particular moment in time, I could do 
that.  However, I don't need to be that exact, counts every 15 minutes work 
just fine for my need.  The problem wasn't gaining access to SAS/MXG, it was a 
problem of finding the correct variable in the correct MXG dataset to give me 
the info I need.  I found it in the TPXSESSN dataset, in the TPXCCNT variable.  
As I mentioned in a later post, I found which SMF record/variable was needed 
with some timely help from a CA developer.  From there, getting to the correct 
MXG dataset/variable was a trivial task.

Thanks.

Rex

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Subject: Re: CA-TPX and SMF question

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/28/2010
05:23:16 PM:

 From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com

 Hi list,

 I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I
 thought I'd come here.  In the TPX SMF records -specifically the
 interval and shutdown records - there is a section that has SACB
 statistics.  It has 2 fields in it, current SACBs in use and the
 SACB high water mark.  Can somebody tell me just what the SACB is?

 What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum
 number of concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined
 to TPX.  If I can't get that, the max number of terminal sessions
 signed onto TPX concurrently.  I'm hoping the SACB field is the
 latter of these.

 TIA.

 Rex



With SAS (or WPS) and MXG, I expect that you can derive this metric from the
Application LOGON/LOGOFF (or alternatively Terminal SIGNON/SIGNOFF) TPX SMF
record type/subtype combinations, using the MXG-unique VMXGCNCR macro
facility.  Otherwise with the TPX data-source record types, you may be able
to use some other data analysis tool to generate the desired information.


Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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CA-TPX and SMF question

2010-10-28 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hi list,

I can't find the answer in the CA documentation (or on Google) so I thought I'd 
come here.  In the TPX SMF records -specifically the interval and shutdown 
records - there is a section that has SACB statistics.  It has 2 fields in it, 
current SACBs in use and the SACB high water mark.  Can somebody tell me just 
what the SACB is?

What I'm actually looking for is something that tells me the maximum number of 
concurrent users of one of the applications I have defined to TPX.  If I can't 
get that, the max number of terminal sessions signed onto TPX concurrently.  
I'm hoping the SACB field is the latter of these.

TIA.

Rex

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