Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-19 Thread Mark Zelden
Speaking of my REXXSTOR exec, based on a recent conversation with an IBM 
developer using it as a model, I have updated the exec to show LSQA usage
and changed the region available calculation to be more accurate.  I won't
mention the person's name as they may wish to remain anonymous, but
I will thank him publicly anyway.   The updated version is already on my web 
site (URL below) and should show up in the CBT updates page next week.

The new output looks like this:


   V I R T U A LS T O R A G EU S A G E  
   ---  


 Region requested: 12K  

 Max Priv Region Region Region   LSQA Region
 Reg Size  Limit   Size In-Use In-Use  Avail
                
Below 16M: 10216K  9728K  9664K  1316K   700K  8200K
Above 16M:   1711104K262144K262144K  2976K 12184K259168K

Above 2G :10G (64-bit MEMLIMIT) 
MEMLIMIT Source:  SMF   


Regards,

Mark
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:41:36 -0500, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:

Which was how I originally determined what Kirk wrote about where the region
size came from for TSO OMVS (and ISHELL).But it is also documented 
somewhere
in the manuals.   Using my exec was just a lot easier than trying to find where
it is documented.  :-)

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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:02:44 -0400, Don Poitras sas...@sas.com wrote:

Mark Zelden wrote a nice REXX program to show memory. You can run under
TSO or TSO OMVS (or on a native shell session.)

http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/rexxstor.txt

Kirk Wolf wrote:

 Randy,

 See our latest response to your thread on our free support forum here:
 http://dovetail.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=1133

 (Someone here may have a suggestion as to how to diagnose region size under
 TSO OMVS... it would be nice if there was a simple way to display available
 region size from the LDA while in TSO OMVS).

 Kirk Wolf
 Dovetailed Technologies
 http://dovetail.com

 On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Randy Hoekstra
 randy.hoeks...@haworth.comwrote:

  I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't
  get around the FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. errors 
  with
  a TSO region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. 
  Any
  suggestions?

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Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Randy Hoekstra
I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't get 
around the FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. errors with a TSO 
region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. Any 
suggestions?

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Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
Randy,

See our latest response to your thread on our free support forum here:
http://dovetail.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=1133

(Someone here may have a suggestion as to how to diagnose region size under
TSO OMVS... it would be nice if there was a simple way to display available
region size from the LDA while in TSO OMVS).

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Randy Hoekstra
randy.hoeks...@haworth.comwrote:

 I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't
 get around the FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. errors with
 a TSO region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. Any
 suggestions?

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Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Don Poitras
Mark Zelden wrote a nice REXX program to show memory. You can run under
TSO or TSO OMVS (or on a native shell session.) 

http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/rexxstor.txt

Kirk Wolf wrote:
 
 Randy,
 
 See our latest response to your thread on our free support forum here:
 http://dovetail.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=1133
 
 (Someone here may have a suggestion as to how to diagnose region size under
 TSO OMVS... it would be nice if there was a simple way to display available
 region size from the LDA while in TSO OMVS).
 
 Kirk Wolf
 Dovetailed Technologies
 http://dovetail.com
 
 On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Randy Hoekstra
 randy.hoeks...@haworth.comwrote:
 
  I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't
  get around the FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. errors with
  a TSO region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. Any
  suggestions?

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Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Mark Zelden
Which was how I originally determined what Kirk wrote about where the region
size came from for TSO OMVS (and ISHELL).But it is also documented somewhere
in the manuals.   Using my exec was just a lot easier than trying to find where
it is documented.  :-)

--
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mailto:m...@mzelden.com
Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html 
Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/

On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:02:44 -0400, Don Poitras sas...@sas.com wrote:

Mark Zelden wrote a nice REXX program to show memory. You can run under
TSO or TSO OMVS (or on a native shell session.)

http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/rexxstor.txt

Kirk Wolf wrote:

 Randy,

 See our latest response to your thread on our free support forum here:
 http://dovetail.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=1133

 (Someone here may have a suggestion as to how to diagnose region size under
 TSO OMVS... it would be nice if there was a simple way to display available
 region size from the LDA while in TSO OMVS).

 Kirk Wolf
 Dovetailed Technologies
 http://dovetail.com

 On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Randy Hoekstra
 randy.hoeks...@haworth.comwrote:

  I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't
  get around the FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. errors 
  with
  a TSO region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. Any
  suggestions?

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Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Kirk Wolf
Duh, I'm not sure what I forgot about your REXX LDA tool... I've even used
it myself before :-)

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:

 Which was how I originally determined what Kirk wrote about where the
 region
 size came from for TSO OMVS (and ISHELL).But it is also documented
 somewhere
 in the manuals.   Using my exec was just a lot easier than trying to find
 where
 it is documented.  :-)



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Re: Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS Install

2011-08-10 Thread Don Poitras
Mark,
  While I'm looking at this, there is one odd aspect I'd like to
understand. Maybe you know this. Even though the LDA shows the region
(LIMIT and SIZE) as coming from TSO when run under TSO or TSO OMVS and
RACF OMVS segment when run under the native shell, I'm not sure where
region requested is coming from. I have ASSIZEMAX=0536870912, but the
value that shows up both under TSO OMVS and the native shell as:

Region requested: 55296K

Perhaps this is set through some exit, but I thought it was strange as I
actually get the region size I expect, but this value is much lower.
When I run your exec on native TSO, the value is what I expect to see:
1048576K. I'd expect on TSO OMVS to see the same value and on native
shell to see 524288K. 


Mark Zelden wrote:
 
 Which was how I originally determined what Kirk wrote about where the region
 size came from for TSO OMVS (and ISHELL).But it is also documented 
 somewhere
 in the manuals.   Using my exec was just a lot easier than trying to find 
 where
 it is documented.  :-)
 
 --
 Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS
 mailto:m...@mzelden.com
 Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html
 Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/
 
 On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:02:44 -0400, Don Poitras sas...@sas.com wrote:
 
 Mark Zelden wrote a nice REXX program to show memory. You can run under
 TSO or TSO OMVS (or on a native shell session.)
 
 http://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/rexxstor.txt
 
 Kirk Wolf wrote:
 
  Randy,
 
  See our latest response to your thread on our free support forum here:
  http://dovetail.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=1133
 
  (Someone here may have a suggestion as to how to diagnose region size under
  TSO OMVS... it would be nice if there was a simple way to display available
  region size from the LDA while in TSO OMVS).
 
  Kirk Wolf
  Dovetailed Technologies
  http://dovetail.com
 
  On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Randy Hoekstra
  randy.hoeks...@haworth.comwrote:
 
   I'm trying to install the Co: Z Toolkit for z/OS under TSO OMVS and can't
   get around the FSUM9225 no memory: EDC5132I NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. errors 
   with
   a TSO region size of 2047M. Our test system CSA = 2404K, ECSA = 61588K. 
   Any
   suggestions?

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