DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED
Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to solve the following puzzle. Some batch jobs which execute are being directed to a VSM. However they abend when the default vol count limit of 5 have been reached - s837-08. I added a vol count of 20 in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected. Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed? Is there a work around it or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED
The big question is are your tapes SMS managed? If so, is the dataclas being applied to this tape? Otherwise, check your settings for dynamic volume count. I believe that all will be OK if you code the vol count in JCL (last resort). HTH, snip I am trying to solve the following puzzle. Some batch jobs which execute are being directed to a VSM. However they abend when the default vol count limit of 5 have been reached - s837-08. I added a vol count of 20 in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected. Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed? Is there a work around it or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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From everything I know about SMS, data class can't be specified for non-SMS files. The volume count can be placed on the DD card // VOL=(,,,22). Hope this helps. * * *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-251* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:28 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to solve the following puzzle. Some batch jobs which execute are being directed to a VSM. However they abend when the default vol count limit of 5 have been reached - s837-08. I added a vol count of 20 in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected. Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed? Is there a work around it or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED
Allan, I verified, the tapes are not SMS managed. You recommended that I check your settings for dynamic volume count. Would you know what the member in the PARMLIB would be? From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:40:36 AM Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED The big question is are your tapes SMS managed? If so, is the dataclas being applied to this tape? Otherwise, check your settings for dynamic volume count. I believe that all will be OK if you code the vol count in JCL (last resort). HTH, snip I am trying to solve the following puzzle. Some batch jobs which execute are being directed to a VSM. However they abend when the default vol count limit of 5 have been reached - s837-08. I added a vol count of 20 in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected. Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed? Is there a work around it or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED
DATACLAS can be assigned to non-SMS managed data sets, but dynamic volume count is only applicable to SMS-managed data sets (according to the HELP panel). Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:47 AM From everything I know about SMS, data class can't be specified for non-SMS files. The volume count can be placed on the DD card // VOL=(,,,22). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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George, Thanks for your suggestion. The problem is that there are several jcls in USERLAND which we will need to modify and there is no way I can find out where they are housed. This is why I thought by adding the parm in the default DC it would solve the problem. From: George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:47:01 AM Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED From everything I know about SMS, data class can't be specified for non-SMS files. The volume count can be placed on the DD card // VOL=(,,,22). Hope this helps. * * *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-251* *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869* *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Seven Consecutive Years* On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:28 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to solve the following puzzle. Some batch jobs which execute are being directed to a VSM. However they abend when the default vol count limit of 5 have been reached - s837-08. I added a vol count of 20 in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected. Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed? Is there a work around it or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Home of Florida's first LEED Gold Certified School Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED
Good morning Esmee, I don't believe that either volume count or dynamic volume count will affect non-SMS-managed datasets. Snippets from the dfp Storage Administration Reference: Volume Count Volume count is ignored for data sets to which no storage class is assigned. Dynamic Volume Count is not supported for the following: - Non-SMS managed data sets or data sets with no associated data class Regards, Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED Allan, I verified, the tapes are not SMS managed. You recommended that I check your settings for dynamic volume count. Would you know what the member in the PARMLIB would be? From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:40:36 AM Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED The big question is are your tapes SMS managed? If so, is the dataclas being applied to this tape? Otherwise, check your settings for dynamic volume count. I believe that all will be OK if you code the vol count in JCL (last resort). HTH, snip I am trying to solve the following puzzle. Some batch jobs which execute are being directed to a VSM. However they abend when the default vol count limit of 5 have been reached - s837-08. I added a vol count of 20 in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected. Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed? Is there a work around it or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED
If I understand all the explanations put forward and correct me if I am wrong, since the dsns/tapes are not SMS managed, the DATACLAS is ignored. Also, the only way to correct this would be at the system level. Correct me if I have erred. From: Starr, Alan alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 12:18:48 PM Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED Good morning Esmee, I don't believe that either volume count or dynamic volume count will affect non-SMS-managed datasets. Snippets from the dfp Storage Administration Reference: Volume Count Volume count is ignored for data sets to which no storage class is assigned. Dynamic Volume Count is not supported for the following: - Non-SMS managed data sets or data sets with no associated data class Regards, Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED Allan, I verified, the tapes are not SMS managed. You recommended that I check your settings for dynamic volume count. Would you know what the member in the PARMLIB would be? From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:40:36 AM Subject: Re: DATACLASS NOT BEING RESPECTED The big question is are your tapes SMS managed? If so, is the dataclas being applied to this tape? Otherwise, check your settings for dynamic volume count. I believe that all will be OK if you code the vol count in JCL (last resort). HTH, snip I am trying to solve the following puzzle. Some batch jobs which execute are being directed to a VSM. However they abend when the default vol count limit of 5 have been reached - s837-08. I added a vol count of 20 in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected. Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed? Is there a work around it or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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This is an SMS setting, and can be changed via the df/SMS panels. Since your tapes are *NOT* SMS managed, the changing any of the data class settings will have no effect. snip I verified, the tapes are not SMS managed. You recommended that I check your settings for dynamic volume count. Would you know what the member in the PARMLIB would be? The big question is are your tapes SMS managed? If so, is the dataclas being applied to this tape? Otherwise, check your settings for dynamic volume count. I believe that all will be OK if you code the vol count in JCL (last resort). HTH, snip I am trying to solve the following puzzle. Some batch jobs which execute are being directed to a VSM. However they abend when the default vol count limit of 5 have been reached - s837-08. I added a vol count of 20 in the default DATACLAS VIRT however for some reason the DATACLAS value is not being respected. Is this because the dsns are NOT SMS managed? Is there a work around it or do I need to have the VOL COUNT default values changed at the system level? /snip /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Yes, that was my thought too: DATACLASS is also applied to non-SMS datasets, but is it also applied to non-SMS managed tapes? That might explain why it is not working. Kees. Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com wrote in message news:f5ff22ced304764eaac97a43706235b74f3116b...@corpexmbx.bekco.com... DATACLAS can be assigned to non-SMS managed data sets, but dynamic volume count is only applicable to SMS-managed data sets (according to the HELP panel). Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:47 AM From everything I know about SMS, data class can't be specified for non-SMS files. The volume count can be placed on the DD card // VOL=(,,,22). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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According to DFSMS Stor. Admin. Ref. For non-SMS-managed DASD data sets, the system uses the allocation attribute values of the data class, but it does not save the data class name. For tape data sets, only the expiration and retention values are applied. See Chapter 7. Defining Data Classes/Understanding Data Classes Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
