Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
Had exactly the same problem on another list, with most likely contributing culprit being the SMTP server at vm.marist.edu. More explicitly, you need follow Walt's suggestion and send an email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message set ibm-main fullhdr If this fixes the problem, this should more accurately be described as a circumvention. The root cause is that the original message has headers that indicate a character encoding of UTF-8 and it is passing through at least one SMTP server that is either seriously back-level or mis-configured to give a response that it doesn't support 8BITMIME (i.e, only 6-bit character codes are supported). This forces the Email sender to incur the additional 34% space overhead of encoding the UTF-8 data in a base64 encoding and adding additional headers to that effect, but in this case those headers typically end up before the Subject header rather than after. If you are reading messages via list email rather than a newsreader and don't have the fullhdr option specified, headers prior to the Subject header are stripped and in the above case you loose the critical header that tells your email client that the data is base64 encoded, so you see undecoded garbage instead of the decoded text. Specifying fullhdr lets the critical Contents header propagate and should eliminate the symptom. On 01/29/2010 02:07 PM, Walt Farrell wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:52:03 -0500, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: It appears that it is an Exchange setting that I have no control over. If you haven't checked your ibm-main list-serve settings at the ibm-main server (nothing to do with Exchange) then I don't think you can be sure of that. -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, ARjremoveccapsew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903009...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 01/29/2010 at 11:01 AM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: Kinda unreadable. Not if your e-mail client supports MIME. What is it that I have to do to read these? Use software that supports the MIME-Version:, Content-Type: and Content-Transfer-Encoding: header fields, as documented in RFC 2045 and 2046. See also RFC 2049. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
Kinda unreadable. What is it that I have to do to read these? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Angelo Corridori Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes SGVsbG8gZXZlcnlvbmUsDQoNClRoaXMgaXMgdGhlIGZpbmFsIHdlZWsgdG8gcmVnaXN0ZXIg Zm9y IHovT1MgT24gTGluZSBjbGFzc2VzIGF0IHRoZSBNYXJpc3QgDQpJbnN0aXR1dGUgZm9yIERh dGEg Q2VudGVyIFByb2Zlc3Npb25hbHMuIA0KDQpTcHJpbmcgY2xhc3NlcyBpbmNsdWRlOg0K4oCi ICAg ICAgIHovT1MgQXNzb2NpYXRlIENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFByb2dyYW0gKFN5c3RlbXMgUHJvZ3Jh bW1p bmcgVHJhY2spDQrigKIgICAgICAgREIyIEFwcGxpY2F0aW9uIFByb2dyYW1taW5nIFRyYWNr LSBE aXNjb3VudGVkIEludHJvZHVjdG9yeSBQcmljaW5nIA0KQXZhaWxhYmxlIQ0K4oCiICAgICAg IEFz c2VtYmxlciBMYW5ndWFnZSBBcHBsaWNhdGlvbiBQcm9ncmFtbWluZyBUcmFjay0gRGlzY291 bnRl ZCANCkludHJvZHVjdG9yeSBQcmljaW5nIEF2YWlsYWJsZSENCuKAoiAgICAgICBBSVggb24g UG93 ZXIgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUgUHJvZ3JhbS1EaXNjb3VudGVkIEludHJvZHVjdG9yeSBQcmljaW5n IA0K QXZhaWxhYmxlIQ0K4oCiICAgICAgIFZhcmlvdXMgRGF0YSBDZW50ZXIgT3BlcmF0aW9ucyBQ cm9n cmFtcw0KDQpQbGVhc2UgdmlzaXQ6ICB3d3cuaWRjcC5vcmcgZm9yIGZ1cnRoZXIgaW5mb3Jt YXRp b24gb3IgZW1haWw6IA0KbGVhcm56b3NAbWFyaXN0LmVkdQ0KDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0KICAgICAg ICAg ICAgICAgICBBbmdlbG8NCg0KDQpBbmdlbG8gRi4gQ29ycmlkb3JpDQpEaXJlY3RvciBvZiBM YXJn ZSBTeXN0ZW1zIEVkdWNhdGlvbg0KTWFyaXN0IENvbGxlZ2UNCkFuZ2Vsby5Db3JyaWRvcmlA TWFy aXN0LmVkdQ0KMS04NDUtNTc1LTMwMDAgeDIxNjgNCg== -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
I can see it fine do you want me to fwd it to you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: Kinda unreadable. What is it that I have to do to read these? Decode it (it's MIMEd). If you got it as a single posting, then your mailer or LISTSERV is broken. If it was in a Digest, then the problem is that it was encoded in a way that the Digest didn't recognize. IF you have WinZip, you can take the above and prepend it with: Mime-Version: 1.0 --=_Part_111958216_196553547.1262989267101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and save it as something.mm. Opening it with WinZip will then decode it. I tihnk the problem was some fancy bullets that caused the encoding; here's the content with the bullets replaced: Hello everyone, This is the final week to register for z/OS On Line classes at the Marist Institute for Data Center Professionals. Spring classes include: - z/OS Associate Certificate Program (Systems Programming Track) - DB2 Application Programming Track- Discounted Introductory Pricing Available! - Assembler Language Application Programming Track- Discounted Introductory Pricing Available! - AIX on Power Certificate Program-Discounted Introductory Pricing Available! - Various Data Center Operations Programs Please visit: www.idcp.org for further information or email: learn...@marist.edu Regards, Angelo Angelo F. Corridori Director of Large Systems Education Marist College angelo.corrid...@marist.edu 1-845-575-3000 x2168 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
In a message dated 1/29/2010 10:25:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, zosw...@gmail.com writes: Decode it (it's MIMEd). If you got it as a single posting, then your mailer or LISTSERV is broken. If it was in a Digest, then the problem is that Or just go to the _www.idcp.org_ (http://www.idcp.org) link. It's pretty easy to navigate. You get a new Firefox(3.6), Quicktime(7.65) and Java console along the way. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of August Carideo Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh] I can see it fine do you want me to fwd it to you snip I see these from time to time, and I'm trying to figure out what setting I need to change to get them to show up correctly. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh] In a message dated 1/29/2010 10:25:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, zosw...@gmail.com writes: Decode it (it's MIMEd). If you got it as a single posting, then your mailer or LISTSERV is broken. If it was in a Digest, then the problem is that Or just go to the _www.idcp.org_ (http://www.idcp.org) link. It's pretty easy to navigate. You get a new Firefox(3.6), Quicktime(7.65) and Java console along the way. SNIP I'm stuck with Outlook here at the office. I never see this at home using Thunderbird and Linux. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of August Carideo Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh] I can see it fine do you want me to fwd it to you snip I see these from time to time, and I'm trying to figure out what setting I need to change to get them to show up correctly. Regards, Steve Thompson I wish I knew, too. Outlook at work can read them fine. Evolution at home (Linux) gets the same garbage you get. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
In a message dated 1/29/2010 11:23:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com writes: I'm stuck with Outlook here at the office Tried it with my horrid new Windows 7/laptop and had to download Quicktime 7. to view the video but decoded fine. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: I'm stuck with Outlook here at the office. I never see this at home using Thunderbird and Linux. Hm. By mailer I meant mailer, not mail client. I'd assume any current mail client could read it. Since you replied promptly, I'm assuming you're not getting a Digest. So something ate the MIME headers. Outlook displays it fine for me and others; Outlook has warts, but inability to decode things isn't one of them. How do you get it at the office? POP? IMAP? Exchange? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of P S Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh] On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: I'm stuck with Outlook here at the office. I never see this at home using Thunderbird and Linux. Hm. By mailer I meant mailer, not mail client. I'd assume any current mail client could read it. Since you replied promptly, I'm assuming you're not getting a Digest. So something ate the MIME headers. Outlook displays it fine for me and others; Outlook has warts, but inability to decode things isn't one of them. How do you get it at the office? POP? IMAP? Exchange? SNIP Exchange. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: Exchange. Oh, and you're at Sterling Commerce -- I bet some horrible gateway broke it (nothing against SterComm, just that big companies tend to have such things). Look at the message headers, see what MIME headers are in there. That might be a clue (tho it won't tell you *where* they were in the message). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:01:12 -0500, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: Kinda unreadable. What is it that I have to do to read these? In my experience, seeing that as a block of gibberish indicates that either: (a) you're using an email client that doesn't handle MIME-encoded messages; or (b) you don't have your mailing list options setup correctly to handle MIME-encoded traffic. Check your settings for IBM-MAIN, and make sure that you have (I think) FULLHDR set. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh] On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:01:12 -0500, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: Kinda unreadable. What is it that I have to do to read these? In my experience, seeing that as a block of gibberish indicates that either: (a) you're using an email client that doesn't handle MIME-encoded messages; or (b) you don't have your mailing list options setup correctly to handle MIME-encoded traffic. Check your settings for IBM-MAIN, and make sure that you have (I think) FULLHDR set. SNIP It appears that it is an Exchange setting that I have no control over. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Final Week to register for z/OS On line classes -- [Block o'gibersh]
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:52:03 -0500, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: It appears that it is an Exchange setting that I have no control over. If you haven't checked your ibm-main list-serve settings at the ibm-main server (nothing to do with Exchange) then I don't think you can be sure of that. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
