Re: Hiperspaces
Also, of course, above-2G storage can be used. Both data sapces and high virtual can be set up to be shared across address spaces and persist beyond the end of the creating step. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Hiperspaces
All: Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ? Wrote to ? I have started the processs of reading the manuals and have a basic understanding. What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) to either a datasopace or hiperspace. After the data is placed there, have a running task pick up the data and delete the hiperspace when done. I am assuming(bad word choice, I know) that this process as described above should work ... All input is welcome and of course appreciated. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperspaces
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:03:01 -0800, Scott Ford wrote: What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) That's not such a large amount. Less than 40MB. Under 50 cylinders. to either a datasopace or hiperspace. After the data is placed there, have a running task pick up the data and delete the hiperspace when done. Have you considered using a Unix pipe? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperspaces
Hiperspaces are typically used when you are dealing in chunks of 4K pages - I think dataspaces would be more suitable if you insist on an AR-Mode solution as it allows direct byte access. However, there are a few alternatives to consider here : (1) Shared memory objects (2) PC-ss to add SYSPRINT data to target ASID private? (3) IARVSERV I am sure others in this list will point out other choices Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street · Newton, MA 02466-2272 · USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: 11 November 2011 16:03 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Hiperspaces All: Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ? Wrote to ? I have started the processs of reading the manuals and have a basic understanding. What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) to either a datasopace or hiperspace. After the data is placed there, have a running task pick up the data and delete the hiperspace when done. I am assuming(bad word choice, I know) that this process as described above should work ... All input is welcome and of course appreciated. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperspaces
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Hiperspaces All: Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ? Wrote to ? I have started the processs of reading the manuals and have a basic understanding. What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) to either a datasopace or hiperspace. After the data is placed there, have a running task pick up the data and delete the hiperspace when done. I am assuming(bad word choice, I know) that this process as described above should work ... All input is welcome and of course appreciated. Scott J Ford I don't believer that Dataspaces and hiperspaces normally exist past the end-of-step. They are like memory. Because they are memory. You can't pass them between steps or between processes. Well, not using normal z/OS non-APF functionality. You can use a LINEAR VSAM dataset and map it using DIV into a dataspace or a hiperspace. You can then pass that LINEAR dataset to some other process. Which needs to use DIV to use it as memory. Example code for dataspace: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2a580/6.16 Example code for hiperspace http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2a580/7.13.1.1 Remember that a hiperspace is accessed by copying data into out of it in 4K chunks. A dataspace can be referenced at a byte level using normal assembler instructions when in AR mode. The access register points to the dataspace. Kinda. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 . N. Richland Hills . TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone . john.mck...@healthmarkets.com . www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperspaces
Guys/Gals: Thank you, I had thought about dataspaces also. I have to dig some more, but thanks to all I have otehr options now. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com From: Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Hiperspaces Hiperspaces are typically used when you are dealing in chunks of 4K pages - I think dataspaces would be more suitable if you insist on an AR-Mode solution as it allows direct byte access. However, there are a few alternatives to consider here : (1) Shared memory objects (2) PC-ss to add SYSPRINT data to target ASID private? (3) IARVSERV I am sure others in this list will point out other choices Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street · Newton, MA 02466-2272 · USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: 11 November 2011 16:03 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Hiperspaces All: Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ? Wrote to ? I have started the processs of reading the manuals and have a basic understanding. What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) to either a datasopace or hiperspace. After the data is placed there, have a running task pick up the data and delete the hiperspace when done. I am assuming(bad word choice, I know) that this process as described above should work ... All input is welcome and of course appreciated. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperspaces
Scott, I wuld try to answer a couple of questions before starting any design/coding effort. 1)Who needs access to the data?(what address spaces/jobs) and 2)How long does it have to be available? I believe how you answer that will determine how you should proceed. If only one job, then I would go virtical with it, and stick it in the private area. If multiple jobs/address spaces need access to it, then going horizontal into a dataspace may be the answer, but you have to consider the persistence of the dataspace. --Dave - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:03 AM Subject: Hiperspaces All: Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ? Wrote to ? I have started the processs of reading the manuals and have a basic understanding. What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) to either a datasopace or hiperspace. After the data is placed there, have a running task pick up the data and delete the hiperspace when done. I am assuming(bad word choice, I know) that this process as described above should work ... All input is welcome and of course appreciated. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperspaces
Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ? Wrote to ? I have started the processs of reading the manuals and have a basic understanding. What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) to either a datasopace or hiperspace. After the data is placed there, have a running task pick up the data and delete the hiperspace when done. Since z/OS no longer uses expanded storage, it is counterproductive to use a HSTYPE=SCROLL hiperspace. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces
You can create/delete a common dataspace. Requires APF authorization. IMO a dataspace is preferable. snipIs this possible or feasible from an Batch application standpoint ?? 1). Build data (create) into a Data Space or a Hiperspace in 1 Batch job. 2). Access this data in many following Batch jobs. 3). At the end of Batch cycle, delete #1's Data Space or Hiperspace. If possible to do, then which is perferable ?? Data Space or Hiperspace ?? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces
If DLF is not applicable, then dataspaces can be used for this quite effectively as long as you remember that the 'owner' of the dataspace must not terminate until the dataspace is no longer required. The following assumes that you (or someone working in your company has reasonable experience in writing assembler) : I would only go for a CADS as a last resort as these are a limited resource and by creating one you are adding a entry on the PASN-AL for every address space on the system - SCOPE=ALL dataspaces could be used with a little effort : The following rough design might suit : (1) Server ASID starts and creates a SCOPE=ALL dataspace and stores the STOKEN somewhere common - eg E-CSA or maybe as part of NAME/TOKEN service. (2) Batch jobs start and get the STOKEN from the common area and perform ALESERV ADD. (3) Data is used from the dataspace by the batch jobs (4) After last batch job ends, the server ASID is terminated. If you go down this route, you will have to consider : (1) What to do if Server ASID goes away during the batch run. (2) Are you going to allow batch jobs to change the data in the dataspace (3) Are the sort of things going on in the batch job supported in AR mode? If not - you need to avoid too many SAC 0/512 switches as this is very expensive. (4) You need some authorized way of performing the ALESERV ADD for dataspace as the batch ASID is not the owner of the dataspace - so maybe you are looking at either the pgm running in the batch program being APF authorised or using some sort of PC routine to perform the ALESERV ADD. (5) It might be worth looking at IARVSERV as well or using the new-fangled 64-bit shared memory objects Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi_g2 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces
Sam and Tom I don't know if they still try to sell it or not, but IBM's SmartBatch did this as well. The price was not nearly as good as DLF. Tom Moulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces Hi Tom, DLF has restrictions on the kinds of data you can use it for but it can do exactly this and comes with z/OS for free. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea5j700.pdf Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Savor Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces Is this possible or feasible from an Batch application standpoint ?? 1). Build data (create) into a Data Space or a Hiperspace in 1 Batch job. 2). Access this data in many following Batch jobs. 3). At the end of Batch cycle, delete #1's Data Space or Hiperspace. If possible to do, then which is perferable ?? Data Space or Hiperspace ?? Any examples ?? Thanks, Tom Savor Fidelity National Information Services 3905 Brookside Parkway Alpharetta, GA 30022 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Data Spaces or Hiperspaces
Is this possible or feasible from an Batch application standpoint ?? 1). Build data (create) into a Data Space or a Hiperspace in 1 Batch job. 2). Access this data in many following Batch jobs. 3). At the end of Batch cycle, delete #1's Data Space or Hiperspace. If possible to do, then which is perferable ?? Data Space or Hiperspace ?? Any examples ?? Thanks, Tom Savor Fidelity National Information Services 3905 Brookside Parkway Alpharetta, GA 30022 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message contains information from Certegy, Inc which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify by e:mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces
I have no experience with Hiperspaces, but have coded data spaces on a number of occasions. If you're going to play by the rules, the data space is tied to the address space that creates it, so if you do this, you have to keep the address space that does the create around. Other than that, you have to have a mechanism for making the alet of the data space available to these other address spaces when they need it. --Dave Day - Original Message - From: Tom Savor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces Is this possible or feasible from an Batch application standpoint ?? 1). Build data (create) into a Data Space or a Hiperspace in 1 Batch job. 2). Access this data in many following Batch jobs. 3). At the end of Batch cycle, delete #1's Data Space or Hiperspace. If possible to do, then which is perferable ?? Data Space or Hiperspace ?? Any examples ?? Thanks, Tom Savor Fidelity National Information Services 3905 Brookside Parkway Alpharetta, GA 30022 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message contains information from Certegy, Inc which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify by e:mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Day Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces I have no experience with Hiperspaces, but have coded data spaces on a number of occasions. If you're going to play by the rules, the data space is tied to the address space that creates it, so if you do this, you have to keep the address space that does the create around. Other than that, you have to have a mechanism for making the alet of the data space available to these other address spaces when they need it. --Dave Day - Original Message - From: Tom Savor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this possible or feasible from an Batch application standpoint ?? 1). Build data (create) into a Data Space or a Hiperspace in 1 Batch job. 2). Access this data in many following Batch jobs. 3). At the end of Batch cycle, delete #1's Data Space or Hiperspace. If possible to do, then which is perferable ?? Data Space or Hiperspace ?? Any examples ?? Thanks, Tom Savor Playing by the rules means that the data space is deleted automatically when the owning task terminates. This usually means at end of job step all data spaces created by the application are gone. If your application is running authorized (supervisor state key zero), then you can create a data space and hang it onto a higher level task in the address space. However, getting addressability to the data space is problematic, because of the way the PASN-AL (Primary Space Access List) is handled across job step tasks. Hiperspaces are usually used for windowing onto the files (VSAM?), but I don't recall at the moment the gory details. If you want data persistence across job steps or jobs, then you want a data set and probably want to use a hiperspace for a window onto the file. Jeffrey D. Smith Principal Product Architect Farsight Systems Corporation 700 KEN PRATT BLVD. #204-159 LONGMONT, CO 80501-6452 303-774-9381 direct 303-484-6170 FAX http://www.farsight-systems.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces
Hi Tom, DLF has restrictions on the kinds of data you can use it for but it can do exactly this and comes with z/OS for free. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea5j700.pdf Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Savor Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces Is this possible or feasible from an Batch application standpoint ?? 1). Build data (create) into a Data Space or a Hiperspace in 1 Batch job. 2). Access this data in many following Batch jobs. 3). At the end of Batch cycle, delete #1's Data Space or Hiperspace. If possible to do, then which is perferable ?? Data Space or Hiperspace ?? Any examples ?? Thanks, Tom Savor Fidelity National Information Services 3905 Brookside Parkway Alpharetta, GA 30022 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 06:07:59 -0500, John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing wrote: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. Being Snip End Snip Thanks in advance -- When you say no changes, do you really mean NO changes. That is: No maintence to z/OS No maintance to DFSORT IIRC you can specific default DFSORT system parameters, these did not change either? Yes John, no maintenance to z/OS or DFSORT. DFSORT system parameters are different from default but it hasn't been changed between executions! Thx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:46:54 -0800, Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/01/2005 01:14:36 AM: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. ... Any idea to continue working? If you want to know why hipersorting couldn't be used for this particular run, I need to see the ICE898I message information. But what exactly is the concern here? Did the job using dataspace fail? DFSORT can choose memory object sorting, data space sorting, or hipersorting for the same job at different times depending on what's going on in the system at the time. This doesn't mean that the job isn't working, unless it actually failed. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM) Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ Hello Frank, as I mentioned at mvshelp forum we'll sent you output of executions, one of them using hiperspc. and another using dataspaces. Thank you for your help Christian Blesa DMR-Qualitas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
Another important difference: Before: ICE752I FSZ= 26843782528 BC IGN= 14280193 E AVG= 1000 0 WSP= 34865459 C DYN= 630120 56664 Now: ICE752I FSZ= 26663697126 BC IGN= 14119737 E AVG= 1000 0 WSP= 34631560 C DYN= 1389344 24544 Thanks Chr. On 12/1/05, DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. This job executes DFSORT: //P015 EXEC PGM=SORT,PARM='DYNALLOC=(,90),FILSZ=E0014119737' Statistics before: RECORDS - IN: 14240593, OUT: 14240593 NUMBER OF BYTES SORTED: 25405217912 AVERAGE RECORD LENGTH = 1784 BYTES TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 700875 , TRACKS USED: 522495 HIPERSPACE STORAGE USED = 1048464K BYTES DATA SPACE STORAGE USED = 0K BYTES Statistics now: RECORDS - IN: 14346472, OUT: 14346472 NUMBER OF BYTES SORTED: 25594106048 AVERAGE RECORD LENGTH = 1784 BYTES TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 628785 , TRACKS USED: 459660 HIPERSPACE STORAGE USED = 0K BYTES DATA SPACE STORAGE USED = 202216K BYTES We have compared execution messages and we have seen following differences: ICE750I Before: DC 26843782528 TC 0 CS DSVT0 KSZ 46 VSZ 46 Now: DC 26663697126 TC 0 CS DSVHH KSZ 46 VSZ 46 ICE886I Before: SYS 2956616 TSTG 4674693 FS 6553658 INIT 36949 MAX 50803 LEN 50803 Now: This message not appears ICE165I Before: TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 630120 TRACKS USED: 514800 Now: TOTAL WORK DATA SET TRACKS ALLOCATED: 686775 TRACKS USED: 514800 Following messages has appeared now: ICE880I 0 QP=64 QA=149 HI=465 LI=393 MI=541 TZ=262144 N1=262144 N2=262144 SZ=65 HN=1ICE897I 0 AVAL=1172189,BVAL=1880648,CVAL=1880648,ASV=1749576,HSZ=0,HM=M0,HN=2 ICE096I 0 SUCCESSFUL RECOVERY FROM B37 ABEND(S) FOR WORK DATA SET(S) ICE881I 0 EQ=I2 DX=0 D2=0 D3=63 D4=1 AS=0 SA=0 SB=0 SC=0 HN=1 Available storage is not changed and not in/decrease capacity sort pool!! Any idea to continue working? Thanks in advance -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing wrote: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. Being Snip End Snip Thanks in advance -- When you say no changes, do you really mean NO changes. That is: No maintence to z/OS No maintance to DFSORT IIRC you can specific default DFSORT system parameters, these did not change either? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing Another important difference: Before: ICE752I FSZ= 26843782528 BC IGN= 14280193 E AVG= 1000 0 WSP= 34865459 C DYN= 630120 56664 Now: ICE752I FSZ= 26663697126 BC IGN= 14119737 E AVG= 1000 0 WSP= 34631560 C DYN= 1389344 24544 Thanks Chr. On 12/1/05, DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. Who changed what, and when? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT: from hiperspaces to dataspaces!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/01/2005 01:14:36 AM: Hello, I'm investigating little ghost in a sort job batch due to this job was working with hiperspaces and, without any changes, it has started to use dataspaces. ... Any idea to continue working? If you want to know why hipersorting couldn't be used for this particular run, I need to see the ICE898I message information. But what exactly is the concern here? Did the job using dataspace fail? DFSORT can choose memory object sorting, data space sorting, or hipersorting for the same job at different times depending on what's going on in the system at the time. This doesn't mean that the job isn't working, unless it actually failed. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM) Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
