IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Dazzo, Matt
So what do you folks have to say about IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility 
(z/OSMF)? We have zos1.13 up and running and considering configuring IBM(r) 
z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF). Looking to see find out how hard it is to 
configure and how useful it is? Or any other info you might find useful. Thanks

Matthew Dazzo
Sr MVS Systems Programmer
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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Tom Ambros
Do it.  If you do any policy based networking you'll be happy you did. 
Incident packaging is nice, we don't use it a ton because we haven't 
seemed to have had too many incidents for a while but it does make it 
simpler to get all the diagnostics wrapped up with a bow.  It looks like 
there's a fair amount of development going on with it, it  is not like the 
old wizard setup that disappeared a while back and I already forgot the 
name of.  Even the first iteration of zOSMF was far more useful than that 
interface, whatever it was called. 

Take good notes on your sandbox install and the rest is child's play. 
Upgrades at maintenance time are no big deal if you... took good notes in 
your sandbox install. 

Thomas Ambros
Operating Systems and Connectivity Engineering
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So what do you folks have to say about IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility 
(z/OSMF)? We have zos1.13 up and running and considering configuring 
IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF). Looking to see find out how 
hard it is to configure and how useful it is? Or any other info you might 
find useful. Thanks

Matthew Dazzo
Sr MVS Systems Programmer
Publishers Clearing House
Port Washington NY
516-944-4816


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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread John Gilmore
On 5/24/12, Tom Ambros thomas_amb...@keybank.com wrote:
 Do it.  If you do any policy based networking you'll be happy you did.
 Incident packaging is nice, we don't use it a ton because we haven't
 seemed to have had too many incidents for a while but it does make it
 simpler to get all the diagnostics wrapped up with a bow.  It looks like
 there's a fair amount of development going on with it, it  is not like the
 old wizard setup that disappeared a while back and I already forgot the
 name of.  Even the first iteration of zOSMF was far more useful than that
 interface, whatever it was called.

 Take good notes on your sandbox install and the rest is child's play.
 Upgrades at maintenance time are no big deal if you... took good notes in
 your sandbox install.

 Thomas Ambros
 Operating Systems and Connectivity Engineering
 518-436-6433





 From:   Dazzo, Matt mda...@pch.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Date:   05/24/2012 10:58
 Subject:IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)
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 So what do you folks have to say about IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility
 (z/OSMF)? We have zos1.13 up and running and considering configuring
 IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF). Looking to see find out how
 hard it is to configure and how useful it is? Or any other info you might
 find useful. Thanks

 Matthew Dazzo
 Sr MVS Systems Programmer
 Publishers Clearing House
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 516-944-4816


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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
z/OS MF also includes a new web service API, the z/OS jobs REST interface
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http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zosmf/vxrx/topic/com.ibm.zosmf.configguide.help.doc/IZUHPINFO_API_RESTJOBS.html

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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Martin, Larry D
Matt,

I think it is a really good tool.  The security, however, is very complex.  If 
you are a RACF shop then you are in good shape.  We are Top Secret and it was a 
real struggle.

..Larry

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(z/OSMF)? We have zos1.13 up and running and considering configuring IBM(r) 
z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF). Looking to see find out how hard it is to 
configure and how useful it is? Or any other info you might find useful. Thanks

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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 5/24/2012 8:46 AM, Martin, Larry D wrote:

I think it is a really good tool.  The security, however, is very complex.  If 
you are a RACF shop then you are in good shape.  We are Top Secret and it was a 
real struggle.


Lol! z/OSMF security has been a struggle for RACF shops too! :D

This is primarily due to the fact that there are many components (CIM, CEA, 
WebSphere, etc.) that most shops have never configured before. Doing it all from 
scratch can be quite a bit of work.


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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 11:51 -0400, Edward Jaffe wrote:
 Lol! z/OSMF security has been a struggle for RACF shops too! :D

MSM had its own set of security demands...

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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
z/OS role of Explorer Eclipse GUI was updated to use that in V1.1.1 but it does 
require z/OS 1.13.  That combination will let you look at running jobs with 
Explorer.
The price on Explorer is right... Free.

 http://www-01.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/explorer/ 

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z/OS MF also includes a new web service API, the z/OS jobs REST interface
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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 5/24/2012 9:44 AM, Knutson, Sam wrote:

z/OS role of Explorer Eclipse GUI was updated to use that in V1.1.1 but it does 
require z/OS 1.13.  That combination will let you look at running jobs with 
Explorer.
The price on Explorer is right... Free.


I don't think CICS Explorer depends on any interfaces provided by z/OSMF.

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Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
V1.1.1 adds a new connection type which z/OSMF and is required to view active 
jobs.
This depends on z/OSMF and specifically requires z/OSMF at 1.13.
V1.1.1 still supports FTP connections but with the limitations they have had 
previously which are relieved with the new connection type.
If you try it with 1.12 or earlier you get in Explorer IZE0105E Connection 
failed with exception null.
The response from the support forum for Explorer was 

RESTful access to the JES facilities in z/OSMF requires z/OSMF V1.13, so I'm 
not surprised it doesn't work on V1.12. 
That said, I'd have hoped that the error message might have been more helpful.


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On 5/24/2012 9:44 AM, Knutson, Sam wrote:
 z/OS role of Explorer Eclipse GUI was updated to use that in V1.1.1 but it 
 does require z/OS 1.13.  That combination will let you look at running jobs 
 with Explorer.
 The price on Explorer is right... Free.

I don't think CICS Explorer depends on any interfaces provided by z/OSMF.

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