Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
Hi Bill A couple of comments from and old time IMSer Firstly - the DFS064 message means the transaction code you have entered is not defined to IMS. Check your stage1 or alternativly issue the /DIS TRAN xxx transaction. Also depending on the IMSGEN option chosen, you may need to enter a trailing space after the transaction code. The DFS690 message means that your MPR address space and your CTL region don't have the same IMSID (or are not running on the same LPAR). This could also occur if IMS startup was not complete but this does not appear to be the case. Check the IMSID at the end of the DFS690 message as well as the IMSID at the end of the DFS996 message from the control region and make sure that they are the same. Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me on or off list if you need any further help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
Are there any IMS systems programmers or even application programmers at your shop? It seems to me that you are starting out of your depth. any way, you may want to look at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dfsisdf9/4.8.1 for JCL to start a MPR. If you are actually trying to test an application program, then I would strongly suggest starting with something like BTS - rather than trying to start your own control region and MPR. Can you tell us the actual task you are trying to accomplish as well as what existing IMS personnel there is at your shop? It has been a LONG time since I had to do much of this, but as I recall, almost NOTHING that you should be doing needs (or should be) done from the master console - which seems to be where you are doing almost everything. David Logan loga3...@comcast.net wrote in message news:001001c9d1bb$d89ac140$89d043...@net... OK, yes, I am remembering now. Man, I hate IMS :) I really need to get better versed in it. Anyway, what's happening is that IMS isn't automatically starting any of my MPP regions. When I try to start them with /START REGION xxx, I get a whole bunch of MPP regions that all say: DFS690A IMS91M11.REGION.IMS91M11 - CTL PGM NOT ACTIVE, REPLY 'WAIT', 'CANCEL' OR 'ALT-ID' And yet again, the message manual explains the obvious (such as if a control region is going to come up soon, reply wait.) It doesn't explain what I should be doing to figure out why it's not seeing a control region that is *supposed* to be running. So what are the MPP regions looking for that it doesn't have? The IMS ID seems to be fine. The MPP regions have IMSID=IMS1, and the IMS control region has IMS1 in it's operator reply, so it *looks* like the IMS IDs match. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Not into IMS either but ... I think you'd need an MPR / MPP available first... (start an MPR / MPP and then issue a /DIS A) First off ... assuming that the transaction was call TEST01, clear your screen and key in TEST01_ where the '_' is meant to be a space. If that does not work, you're likely missing an /ASS TRANS TEST01 CLASS ?? where the '??' would be class available on the MPR / MPP and defined to the TEST01 transaction. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FW: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Hi guys. Sorry, but I am not very well versed in IMS, and I sure am missing something. I want to run an IMS transaction, but no matter what I do, all I get is: DFS064 11:46:46 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED I've looked this message up in various places, but I have found nothing at all useful to resolving it. What am I missing? This is IMS V9 under z/OS 1.8. It's got default security, which means it won't let me do hardly anything via terminal commands, I have to do everything via message replies on the master console. I have done a /START DC, although I don't know how to tell if it was successful. OK, I've provided the information I can think of to provide. Any suggestions? Thanks! David Logan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
I am the systems programmer. (and I have been one for some 20 years, but I have never run an IMS region.) I took over for a previous systems programmer, so I haven't even run an install yet. I am trying to find the most expedient way to understand my problem without having to walk through an entire install and set up everything manually myself, which of course is what I would normally do if I weren't taking over for somebody else :) Anyway, I *have* JCL, and it's already customized for this IMS region. It occurred to me that I couldn't find his STG1MACS, so I redid it from the one in IMS910.IMSGEN.CNTL, and maybe there was a parameter discrepancy. So I set IMSID=IMS1 in there and reran my stage1/stage2. It didn't help. Then I discovered that my MPP regions also wanted the previous IMSID (which was IVP1.) But instead of fixing all of that right now, I just did /R XX,IMS1 to each of my MPP regions, and they all came up. However, when I run my G1CP transaction, I get exactly the same response: DFS064 06:23:22 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED My main frustration (other than the perceived complexity of IMS) is that there is no actual information associated with this error message. I'm not sure what commands to issue to look to see if things are up, I'm not sure what parts to look for to see if things are running or connected, I'm simply not sure what it wants that it doesn't have. After a previous responder mentioned having MPP regions running, I though Oh yeah! because I had forgotten about those :) But now they appear to be running, and yet no improvement. *sigh* Thanks for the help. I will keep looking for answers. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Klein Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Are there any IMS systems programmers or even application programmers at your shop? It seems to me that you are starting out of your depth. any way, you may want to look at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dfsisdf9/4.8.1 for JCL to start a MPR. If you are actually trying to test an application program, then I would strongly suggest starting with something like BTS - rather than trying to start your own control region and MPR. Can you tell us the actual task you are trying to accomplish as well as what existing IMS personnel there is at your shop? It has been a LONG time since I had to do much of this, but as I recall, almost NOTHING that you should be doing needs (or should be) done from the master console - which seems to be where you are doing almost everything. David Logan loga3...@comcast.net wrote in message news:001001c9d1bb$d89ac140$89d043...@net... OK, yes, I am remembering now. Man, I hate IMS :) I really need to get better versed in it. Anyway, what's happening is that IMS isn't automatically starting any of my MPP regions. When I try to start them with /START REGION xxx, I get a whole bunch of MPP regions that all say: DFS690A IMS91M11.REGION.IMS91M11 - CTL PGM NOT ACTIVE, REPLY 'WAIT', 'CANCEL' OR 'ALT-ID' And yet again, the message manual explains the obvious (such as if a control region is going to come up soon, reply wait.) It doesn't explain what I should be doing to figure out why it's not seeing a control region that is *supposed* to be running. So what are the MPP regions looking for that it doesn't have? The IMS ID seems to be fine. The MPP regions have IMSID=IMS1, and the IMS control region has IMS1 in it's operator reply, so it *looks* like the IMS IDs match. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Not into IMS either but ... I think you'd need an MPR / MPP available first... (start an MPR / MPP and then issue a /DIS A) First off ... assuming that the transaction was call TEST01, clear your screen and key in TEST01_ where the '_' is meant to be a space. If that does not work, you're likely missing an /ASS TRANS TEST01 CLASS ?? where the '??' would be class available on the MPR / MPP and defined to the TEST01 transaction. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FW: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Hi guys. Sorry, but I am not very well versed in IMS, and I sure am missing something. I want to run an IMS transaction, but no matter what I do, all I get is: DFS064 11:46:46 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED I've looked this message up in various places, but I have found nothing at all useful to resolving it. What am I missing
Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
Can you find the IMS applid of the CTRL region and logon to it ? .. If so, once logged in, issue a /DIS A and see if the MPP / MPR regions are waiting and if so, in what class .. Try assigning (/ASS) the transaction to that class -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? OK, yes, I am remembering now. Man, I hate IMS :) I really need to get better versed in it. Anyway, what's happening is that IMS isn't automatically starting any of my MPP regions. When I try to start them with /START REGION xxx, I get a whole bunch of MPP regions that all say: DFS690A IMS91M11.REGION.IMS91M11 - CTL PGM NOT ACTIVE, REPLY 'WAIT', 'CANCEL' OR 'ALT-ID' And yet again, the message manual explains the obvious (such as if a control region is going to come up soon, reply wait.) It doesn't explain what I should be doing to figure out why it's not seeing a control region that is *supposed* to be running. So what are the MPP regions looking for that it doesn't have? The IMS ID seems to be fine. The MPP regions have IMSID=IMS1, and the IMS control region has IMS1 in it's operator reply, so it *looks* like the IMS IDs match. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Not into IMS either but ... I think you'd need an MPR / MPP available first... (start an MPR / MPP and then issue a /DIS A) First off ... assuming that the transaction was call TEST01, clear your screen and key in TEST01_ where the '_' is meant to be a space. If that does not work, you're likely missing an /ASS TRANS TEST01 CLASS ?? where the '??' would be class available on the MPR / MPP and defined to the TEST01 transaction. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FW: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Hi guys. Sorry, but I am not very well versed in IMS, and I sure am missing something. I want to run an IMS transaction, but no matter what I do, all I get is: DFS064 11:46:46 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED I've looked this message up in various places, but I have found nothing at all useful to resolving it. What am I missing? This is IMS V9 under z/OS 1.8. It's got default security, which means it won't let me do hardly anything via terminal commands, I have to do everything via message replies on the master console. I have done a /START DC, although I don't know how to tell if it was successful. OK, I've provided the information I can think of to provide. Any suggestions? Thanks! David Logan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.24/2107 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.24/2107 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.24/2107 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send
Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
I can barely spell IMS... but I thought it was /SET TRANSACTION xxx. Then type the transaction name. -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Sun, 10 May 2009 12:30:01 -0500, Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us wrote: Not into IMS either but ... I think you'd need an MPR / MPP available first... (start an MPR / MPP and then issue a /DIS A) First off ... assuming that the transaction was call TEST01, clear your screen and key in TEST01_ where the '_' is meant to be a space. If that does not work, you're likely missing an /ASS TRANS TEST01 CLASS ?? where the '??' would be class available on the MPR / MPP and defined to the TEST01 transaction. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FW: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Hi guys. Sorry, but I am not very well versed in IMS, and I sure am missing something. I want to run an IMS transaction, but no matter what I do, all I get is: DFS064 11:46:46 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED I've looked this message up in various places, but I have found nothing at all useful to resolving it. What am I missing? This is IMS V9 under z/OS 1.8. It's got default security, which means it won't let me do hardly anything via terminal commands, I have to do everything via message replies on the master console. I have done a /START DC, although I don't know how to tell if it was successful. OK, I've provided the information I can think of to provide. Any suggestions? Thanks! David Logan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.24/2107 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FW: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
Hi guys. Sorry, but I am not very well versed in IMS, and I sure am missing something. I want to run an IMS transaction, but no matter what I do, all I get is: DFS064 11:46:46 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED I've looked this message up in various places, but I have found nothing at all useful to resolving it. What am I missing? This is IMS V9 under z/OS 1.8. It's got default security, which means it won't let me do hardly anything via terminal commands, I have to do everything via message replies on the master console. I have done a /START DC, although I don't know how to tell if it was successful. OK, I've provided the information I can think of to provide. Any suggestions? Thanks! David Logan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
Not into IMS either but ... I think you'd need an MPR / MPP available first... (start an MPR / MPP and then issue a /DIS A) First off ... assuming that the transaction was call TEST01, clear your screen and key in TEST01_ where the '_' is meant to be a space. If that does not work, you're likely missing an /ASS TRANS TEST01 CLASS ?? where the '??' would be class available on the MPR / MPP and defined to the TEST01 transaction. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FW: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Hi guys. Sorry, but I am not very well versed in IMS, and I sure am missing something. I want to run an IMS transaction, but no matter what I do, all I get is: DFS064 11:46:46 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED I've looked this message up in various places, but I have found nothing at all useful to resolving it. What am I missing? This is IMS V9 under z/OS 1.8. It's got default security, which means it won't let me do hardly anything via terminal commands, I have to do everything via message replies on the master console. I have done a /START DC, although I don't know how to tell if it was successful. OK, I've provided the information I can think of to provide. Any suggestions? Thanks! David Logan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.24/2107 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction?
OK, yes, I am remembering now. Man, I hate IMS :) I really need to get better versed in it. Anyway, what's happening is that IMS isn't automatically starting any of my MPP regions. When I try to start them with /START REGION xxx, I get a whole bunch of MPP regions that all say: DFS690A IMS91M11.REGION.IMS91M11 - CTL PGM NOT ACTIVE, REPLY 'WAIT', 'CANCEL' OR 'ALT-ID' And yet again, the message manual explains the obvious (such as if a control region is going to come up soon, reply wait.) It doesn't explain what I should be doing to figure out why it's not seeing a control region that is *supposed* to be running. So what are the MPP regions looking for that it doesn't have? The IMS ID seems to be fine. The MPP regions have IMSID=IMS1, and the IMS control region has IMS1 in it's operator reply, so it *looks* like the IMS IDs match. David Logan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Not into IMS either but ... I think you'd need an MPR / MPP available first... (start an MPR / MPP and then issue a /DIS A) First off ... assuming that the transaction was call TEST01, clear your screen and key in TEST01_ where the '_' is meant to be a space. If that does not work, you're likely missing an /ASS TRANS TEST01 CLASS ?? where the '??' would be class available on the MPR / MPP and defined to the TEST01 transaction. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FW: IMS - how do I run an interactive transaction? Hi guys. Sorry, but I am not very well versed in IMS, and I sure am missing something. I want to run an IMS transaction, but no matter what I do, all I get is: DFS064 11:46:46 DESTINATION CAN NOT BE FOUND OR CREATED I've looked this message up in various places, but I have found nothing at all useful to resolving it. What am I missing? This is IMS V9 under z/OS 1.8. It's got default security, which means it won't let me do hardly anything via terminal commands, I have to do everything via message replies on the master console. I have done a /START DC, although I don't know how to tell if it was successful. OK, I've provided the information I can think of to provide. Any suggestions? Thanks! David Logan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/10/09 07:02:00 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
