Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Sandro Ambrozic sandro.ambro...@gmail.com wrote in message news:banlktiktrxl9otiuhtjfgorlabanwft...@mail.gmail.com... 2011/6/20 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1409...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 06/20/2011 at 10:02 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: 1. this newsgroup is a mirror of the news-server. Most people get their posts only from the newsserver. Ok, typo. I meant to say list-server. This explains the rest of my text. Kees. Not even close. AFAIK most people get their posys from the list server. The is a one-way gateway to Usenet, and google has an archive of Usenet. I suggest you subscribe and ask your question there. You don't subscribe to a news server. Since your message appears on the list, it is clear that you subscribed to the list server. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sorry, i picked the wrong bookmark to enter the initial post. Back to WLM, the problem was, after a DR test, having switched CDSs to the newly defined one in the secondary site, in the way back, the WLM switch to the original CDS in primary site failed for internal size reasons. We were forced to re-define the CDS to be able to activate it. Both new definitions were made based on the values extracted from the active production CDS at the begining of this process, at least, that's our assumption. This CDS was allocated in 2009, when we were at z/OS 1.8 level, now we have a 1.10 and 1.11 mix. What we want now is to be able to examine the alternate 2009 CDS that was preserved, to find out what was exactly the reason for this problem. Regards, Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
The z/OS 1.10 migration info on CDS size talks on CDS size only, which in our case didn't change. We defined new CDS in the alternate site, using current WLM configuration values in 1.10, and the created CDS was the same size of our production (let say, 'old') ones. That's why we didn`t expect that redefine the production CDSs would be necessary on the 'back to normal' procedure. The errmsgs were: IXC255I UNABLE TO USE DATA SET SYS1.WLM.TST01.CDS03 AS THE ALTERNATE FOR WLM: ALLOWABLE SIZE OF IWMSVDEF RECORDS IS LESS THAN CURRENT PRIMARY IXC255I UNABLE TO USE DATA SET SYS1.WLM.TST01.CDS03 AS THE ALTERNATE FOR WLM: ALLOWABLE SIZE OF IWMSVPOL RECORDS IS LESS THAN CURRENT PRIMARY IXC250I ALTERNATE COUPLE DATA SET REQUEST FAILED FOR DATA SET SYS1.WLM.TST01.CDS03 FOR WLM: CONSISTENCY CHECKING FAILED FOR THE NEW ALTERNATE DATA SET Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 2011/6/21 Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com Sandro Ambrozic sandro.ambro...@gmail.com wrote in message news:banlktiktrxl9otiuhtjfgorlabanwft...@mail.gmail.com... 2011/6/20 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1409...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 06/20/2011 at 10:02 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: 1. this newsgroup is a mirror of the news-server. Most people get their posts only from the newsserver. Ok, typo. I meant to say list-server. This explains the rest of my text. Kees. Not even close. AFAIK most people get their posys from the list server. The is a one-way gateway to Usenet, and google has an archive of Usenet. I suggest you subscribe and ask your question there. You don't subscribe to a news server. Since your message appears on the list, it is clear that you subscribed to the list server. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sorry, i picked the wrong bookmark to enter the initial post. Back to WLM, the problem was, after a DR test, having switched CDSs to the newly defined one in the secondary site, in the way back, the WLM switch to the original CDS in primary site failed for internal size reasons. We were forced to re-define the CDS to be able to activate it. Both new definitions were made based on the values extracted from the active production CDS at the begining of this process, at least, that's our assumption. This CDS was allocated in 2009, when we were at z/OS 1.8 level, now we have a 1.10 and 1.11 mix. What we want now is to be able to examine the alternate 2009 CDS that was preserved, to find out what was exactly the reason for this problem. Regards, Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Sandro, In z/OS V1R8 (HBB7730), XCF introduced an optional interface that can be exploited by components that own couple data sets (CDSes) to address exactly this problem. When an alternate CDS is rejected because it wasn't formatted for at least the same capacity as the existing primary CDS, XCF calls an exit supplied by the CDS owner to allow the owning component to report the differences between the primary and alternate in terms of the attributes used to format the two CDSes. When the component supports this exit, the format information is reported in message IXC255I with the header RELEVANT typename COUPLE DATA SET FORMAT INFORMATION All CDS types except WLM and sysplex have implemented support for this interface. (The sysplex CDS doesn't use it because there is a very obvious correlation between the record names that appear in IXC255I and the CDS format keywords.) I suggest that you open a PMR or a marketing requirement to request that WLM support the consistency failure interpretation function-level exit for its CDS. Without this support, the only way to determine the differences between the in-use primary CDS and the rejected alternate CDS is to dump the contents of both CDSes using the ADRDSSU utility, open a PMR, and submit the results to IBM Level 2 for analysis. Bill Neiman IBM Parallel Sysplex development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:24:54 -0500, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: There is no format program for the WLM CDS. The WLM CDS is formatted when a policy is installed/activated, or the CDS's are migrated. Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. WLM most certainly relies on IXCL1DSU to format its CDS'. The WLM ISPF dialog can be used to generate the format control cards JCL, but you still have to submit it. See z/OS V1R12 MVS Setting Up a Sysplex, SA22-7625-19, Section 3.3 It is policy update via IXCMIAPU that WLM does not support, at least not by means accessible to us. That is where the WLM ISPF dialog comes in for Define/Install/Activate, or SETXCF to migrate the existing definitions to a new CDS. Regards, Art Gutowski Compuware Corporation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Agreed. My previous response was poorly worded. My escape clause is/was: Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. snip There is no format program for the WLM CDS. The WLM CDS is formatted when a policy is installed/activated, or the CDS's are migrated. Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. WLM most certainly relies on IXCL1DSU to format its CDS'. The WLM ISPF dialog can be used to generate the format control cards JCL, but you still have to submit it. See z/OS V1R12 MVS Setting Up a Sysplex, SA22-7625-19, Section 3.3 It is policy update via IXCMIAPU that WLM does not support, at least not by means accessible to us. That is where the WLM ISPF dialog comes in for Define/Install/Activate, or SETXCF to migrate the existing definitions to a new CDS. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Thank you all, folks, we will probably open a PMR on IXC255I error. Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 2011/6/21 Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com Agreed. My previous response was poorly worded. My escape clause is/was: Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. snip There is no format program for the WLM CDS. The WLM CDS is formatted when a policy is installed/activated, or the CDS's are migrated. Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. WLM most certainly relies on IXCL1DSU to format its CDS'. The WLM ISPF dialog can be used to generate the format control cards JCL, but you still have to submit it. See z/OS V1R12 MVS Setting Up a Sysplex, SA22-7625-19, Section 3.3 It is policy update via IXCMIAPU that WLM does not support, at least not by means accessible to us. That is where the WLM ISPF dialog comes in for Define/Install/Activate, or SETXCF to migrate the existing definitions to a new CDS. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
sandro sandro.ambro...@gmail.com wrote in message news:9a06ae1d-935f-4a59-9fd5-eb9762d65...@e35g2000yqc.googlegroups.com ... Hello, In order to check if a CDS would be suitable to be activated, is there any way to list the configuration information of an inactive WLM CDS? WLM panel options allow only to read active or saved configurations (z/ OS 1.11). Thanks in advance. Regards, Sandro Ambrozic Everis - Spain Sandro, 1. this newsgroup is a mirror of the news-server. Most people get their posts only from the newsserver. I suggest you subscribe and ask your question there. See the info attached automatically at the bottom. 2. short answer: you could try to IPL a test system with this CDS. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
There is no format program for the WLM CDS. The WLM CDS is formatted when a policy is installed/activated, or the CDS's are migrated. Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. HTH, snip In order to check if a CDS would be suitable to be activated, is there any way to list the configuration information of an inactive WLM CDS? WLM panel options allow only to read active or saved configurations (z/ OS 1.11). /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1409...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 06/20/2011 at 10:02 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: 1. this newsgroup is a mirror of the news-server. Most people get their posts only from the newsserver. Not even close. AFAIK most people get their posys from the list server. The is a one-way gateway to Usenet, and google has an archive of Usenet. I suggest you subscribe and ask your question there. You don't subscribe to a news server. Since your message appears on the list, it is clear that you subscribed to the list server. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
2011/6/20 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1409...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 06/20/2011 at 10:02 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: 1. this newsgroup is a mirror of the news-server. Most people get their posts only from the newsserver. Not even close. AFAIK most people get their posys from the list server. The is a one-way gateway to Usenet, and google has an archive of Usenet. I suggest you subscribe and ask your question there. You don't subscribe to a news server. Since your message appears on the list, it is clear that you subscribed to the list server. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sorry, i picked the wrong bookmark to enter the initial post. Back to WLM, the problem was, after a DR test, having switched CDSs to the newly defined one in the secondary site, in the way back, the WLM switch to the original CDS in primary site failed for internal size reasons. We were forced to re-define the CDS to be able to activate it. Both new definitions were made based on the values extracted from the active production CDS at the begining of this process, at least, that's our assumption. This CDS was allocated in 2009, when we were at z/OS 1.8 level, now we have a 1.10 and 1.11 mix. What we want now is to be able to examine the alternate 2009 CDS that was preserved, to find out what was exactly the reason for this problem. Regards, Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Have you considered that the WLM CDS increased with z/OS 1.10 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r10.e0zm100/rwlmcds.htm --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Sandro Ambrozic sandro.ambro...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sandro Ambrozic sandro.ambro...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 5:25 PM 2011/6/20 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1409...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 06/20/2011 at 10:02 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: 1. this newsgroup is a mirror of the news-server. Most people get their posts only from the newsserver. Not even close. AFAIK most people get their posys from the list server. The is a one-way gateway to Usenet, and google has an archive of Usenet. I suggest you subscribe and ask your question there. You don't subscribe to a news server. Since your message appears on the list, it is clear that you subscribed to the list server. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sorry, i picked the wrong bookmark to enter the initial post. Back to WLM, the problem was, after a DR test, having switched CDSs to the newly defined one in the secondary site, in the way back, the WLM switch to the original CDS in primary site failed for internal size reasons. We were forced to re-define the CDS to be able to activate it. Both new definitions were made based on the values extracted from the active production CDS at the begining of this process, at least, that's our assumption. This CDS was allocated in 2009, when we were at z/OS 1.8 level, now we have a 1.10 and 1.11 mix. What we want now is to be able to examine the alternate 2009 CDS that was preserved, to find out what was exactly the reason for this problem. Regards, Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
