Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-09 Thread Scott Fagen
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:10:52 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe
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ATX is displayed when CHTRKID in the CSCB (see macro IEECHAIN) contains:

CHATXID  EQU   X'05' -   ATX ADDRESS SPACE IDENTIFIER

It does indeed mean APPC Transaction job. (Not sure where this
attached designation came from. But APPC Transactions are said to be
attached by the attach manager [on our platform it's the APPC/ASCH
address spaces] so maybe that's where.]

Correct, it is a place for APPC work to run.  When USS came about, they
decided use the same address space constructs to run forked work.

Scott Fagen
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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-08 Thread McKown, John
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snip

 
 (E)JES will show the ATX on the Activity display. If you 
 can't see it, 
 try issuing the SRESET and YALL commands. Display ATXs === 

Does (E)JES have an ALL YALL command as well as the YALL command?
Southerners want to know this sorta stuff! GRIN.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Hello Ed, it's been a long time since talking to the guys at Phoenix.  In 
any event, I tried the SRESET and YALL command, and there is no Display 
ATXs === YES on the Entry Panel or Primary Selection Criteria window. 
Maybe it's due to our version (V2R5M0).

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
It turns out that the users/programmers have this desktop product that 
uses some variation of FTP.  It has the ability to spawn an ATX address 
space.  These are not APPC address spaces.  Looks like an expansion of the 
ATX attribute may be needed.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Chris Mason
Richard,

The variation of FTP could be AFTP and the desktop, by which I assume
you mean a PC, product could be the AFTP client for whichever operating
system the PC runs. However, AFTP would be spawning an AFTP server
transaction program on the mainframe which would be an APPC/MVS address
space and, if so, you will be able to find a transaction program profile
for AFTP.

I quote from the  z/OS V1R2.0-V1R7.0 Communications Server APPC Application
Suite Administration manual:

quote

3.2.5 Task 5 - Add a Transaction Program Profile for the AFTP Server

A transaction program (TP) profile must be added for the AFTP server
(AFTPD). The TP profile defines AFTPD to APPC/MVS as a standard transaction
program, and enables the APPC/MVS transaction scheduler to schedule the
AFTPD transaction program when an inbound allocation request is received.

/quote

You'll be able to find this manual on the Communications Server bookshelf.

Oh, I guess I should mention that there has to be SNA connectivity between
the client and the server which could, I suppose, be Enterprise Extender or
AnyNet SNA over IP or even be using DLSw if you thought the only protocol
available between these users/programmers and the mainframe was IP.

Chris Mason

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 It turns out that the users/programmers have this desktop product that
 uses some variation of FTP.  It has the ability to spawn an ATX address
 space.  These are not APPC address spaces.  Looks like an expansion of the
 ATX attribute may be needed.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
There is no entry for the product in the APPCTP data set.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
We discovered something interesting.  We did an FTP operation using our 
terminal emulator product (PASSPORT) instead of the PC-based FTP product, 
and we can see an address space of type ATX started.  We stopped the test 
and then brought down APPC.  We repeated the FTP test and it worked, which 
proves the APPC STC has nothing to do with the creation of this particular 
ATX address space. 

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-08 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Richard Tsujimoto wrote:
Hello Ed, it's been a long time since talking to the guys at Phoenix.  In 
any event, I tried the SRESET and YALL command, and there is no Display 
ATXs === YES on the Entry Panel or Primary Selection Criteria window. 
Maybe it's due to our version (V2R5M0).
  


Rick, V2R5 is pretty darn old (September 1998)! Maybe the last time you 
talked with us, that release was new! :-)


I did check the listings and Display ATXs was definitely supported in 
V2R5. So, if you don't see it on your Entry Panel (just below Display 
TSUs), it means that your security person has deliberately disallowed 
you from seeing APPC work. (A silly thing to do IMHO. There's no 
particular exposure in allowing people to see APPC transactions.) It's 
probably being done using the DATX= keyword on an internal security 
profile somewhere...


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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-08 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

McKown, John wrote:
(E)JES will show the ATX on the Activity display. If you 
can't see it, try issuing the SRESET and YALL commands.



Does (E)JES have an ALL YALL command as well as the YALL command?
Southerners want to know this sorta stuff! GRIN.
  


No. But, we're fixing to add one just to make y'all feel more 
comfortable ... :-D


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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Richard Tsujimoto wrote:
It turns out that the users/programmers have this desktop product that 
uses some variation of FTP.  It has the ability to spawn an ATX address 
space.  These are not APPC address spaces.  Looks like an expansion of the 
ATX attribute may be needed.
  


What release of the operating system are you running???

OMVS used to use APPC/MVS for its forked procedures. There was no need 
to expand the meaning of ATX for those address spaces. They were indeed 
APPC transactions, but running OMVS work. Later, an interface with WLM 
was created to allow OMVS to create its own BPXAS address space pool 
independent of APPC/MVS.


Without research, ISTR that change was somewhere around the OS/390 V2R5 
time frame...


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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Thanks Ed, I'll follow-up on this.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Ed, you embarrass me grin, we're clinging onto OS/390 2.6

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Chris Mason
Richard,

In answer to your earlier post saying you definitely had no transaction
program profile for AFTP defined, I was going to mention that not all
APPC/MVS server tasks needed to be started by the APPC/MVS scheduler using
transaction program profiles. However, since we are taking here about an
address space being mysteriously started, this isn't really relevant.

Your latest test may well be definitive concerning the absence of APPC/MVS.
The only thing that worries me slightly is that - as far as I remember
APPC/MVS - the started task ASCH is the one responsible for scheduling
address spaces.

Now I'm getting way out of my depth. Nevertheless let me try something for
sager heads to expand on perhaps. Maybe what is happening is that some
program running in its own address space is spawning other address spaces
using the same service that the program ASBSCHIN, the program in the
APPC/MVS ASCH procedure, uses.

Thus your suggestion that ATX needs expanding may be sort-of right. Maybe it
is wrong to associate ATX exclusively with APPC/MVS, more precisely the
transaction/address space scheduling performed by the ASCH procedure, and it
should simply be associated with attached transaction program where this
refers to the service which happens to be used by ASCH.

Looking back though the thread - which I should have done before jumping in
with the AFTP suggestion :-( , I see Rex Pommier is suggesting that UNIX
does this for the FTP server - I guess this might be how the fork() call is
implemented.

Incidentally your post of Tues, Mar 7 2006 8:43 pm mentions using the
NETSTAT command in order to check on the use of APPC/MVS. This just isn't
the appropriate command. It is exclusively for the IP side of the
Communications Server product and not the SNA side.

Chris Mason

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 We discovered something interesting.  We did an FTP operation using our
 terminal emulator product (PASSPORT) instead of the PC-based FTP product,
 and we can see an address space of type ATX started.  We stopped the test
 and then brought down APPC.  We repeated the FTP test and it worked, which
 proves the APPC STC has nothing to do with the creation of this particular
 ATX address space.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:26:38 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe
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What release of the operating system are you running???

OMVS used to use APPC/MVS for its forked procedures. There was no need
to expand the meaning of ATX for those address spaces. They were indeed
APPC transactions, but running OMVS work. Later, an interface with WLM
was created to allow OMVS to create its own BPXAS address space pool
independent of APPC/MVS.

Without research, ISTR that change was somewhere around the OS/390 V2R5
time frame...


On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:39:25 -0500, Richard Tsujimoto
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Ed, you embarrass me grin, we're clinging onto OS/390 2.6


I didn't research either, but I thought the change Ed is referring
to was at OS/390 1.3.   The IP stack changes were at OS/390 2.5.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I - solved

2006-03-08 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
The use of netstat was not for checking any APPC connection.  It was done 
to see if an IP connection was present, which it was.  Sorry for any 
confusion I might have caused.

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Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
When a D J,L command is issued, the response is message IEE114I, showing a 
list of jobs and STCs.  Those that are jobs have J next to them, and STCs 
have S next to them.  We have one that has an A next to it.  According to 
Messages and Codes, A stands for ATX.  I can't find out what ATX stands 
for. 

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
attached transaction programs (ATX) created by the START or MOUNT
command

We have 1 A task as well, ftpd1.  It looks like it is a spawned UNIX
task.

Rex



When a D J,L command is issued, the response is message IEE114I, showing
a 
list of jobs and STCs.  Those that are jobs have J next to them, and
STCs 
have S next to them.  We have one that has an A next to it.  According
to 
Messages and Codes, A stands for ATX.  I can't find out what ATX stands 
for. 

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 3/7/2006 11:39:55 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Messages  and Codes, A stands for ATX.  I can't find out what ATX stands 
for.  




Any mount messages pending?
 
 
If the command is one of the following, some combination of the fourth,  
fifth, and sixth lines appears:  
JOBS,LIST 
A list of all:  
*   Virtual=virtual (V=V) jobs, tasks, and attached transaction programs 
(ATX

)  created by the START or MOUNT command. One or two entries appear on each  
line.  
V=V jobs, virtual=real (V=R) tasks, and V=R attached transaction programs  
(ATX) created by the START  command. One entry appears on each line. 

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Alan C. Field
These are probably APPC  Transactions. 




When a D J,L command is issued, the response is message IEE114I, showing a 

list of jobs and STCs.  Those that are jobs have J next to them, and STCs 
have S next to them.  We have one that has an A next to it.  According to 
Messages and Codes, A stands for ATX.  I can't find out what ATX stands 
for. 



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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
Attached transaction programs.

Regards,

Kevin

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread J R

APPC Transaction?



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When a D J,L command is issued, the response is message IEE114I, showing a
list of jobs and STCs.  Those that are jobs have J next to them, and STCs
have S next to them.  We have one that has an A next to it.  According to
Messages and Codes, A stands for ATX.  I can't find out what ATX stands
for.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:09:30 -0500, Richard Tsujimoto wrote:

When a D J,L command is issued, the response is message IEE114I, showing a
list of jobs and STCs.  Those that are jobs have J next to them, and STCs
have S next to them.  We have one that has an A next to it.  According to
Messages and Codes, A stands for ATX.  I can't find out what ATX stands
for.

You didn't look on the previous page in IEE114I's System Messages pub --
where it says:

* Virtual=virtual (V=V) jobs, tasks, and attached transaction programs
(ATX) created by the START or MOUNT command. One or two entries appear on
each line.
* V=V jobs, virtual=real (V=R) tasks, and V=R attached transaction programs
(ATX) created by the START command. One entry appears on each line.


I would expect (but haven't spent any more of my time to confirm) that ATX
is the current nomenclature for APPC transactions.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Instead of multiple replies, I combined them below (irrespective of 
poster):
It looks like it is a spawned UNIX
task.
We're not running/using OMVS, so I don't think this is the case.

Any mount messages pending?
Nope.

These are probably APPC  Transactions.
That may be a possiblity, but when I did a netstat command, it showed an 
IP connection with a Windows server, so I don't think APPC is it.

Attached transaction programs.
Thanks for the explanation.

The ATX is not viewable from EJES (we're JES3 - it's similar to SDSF), so 
I can't display the JCL associated with it.  I tried running a job with 
TYPRUN=SCAN and specifying a catalog proc name that matches the ATX name, 
but no luck.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Can you tell us what the task name is that is listed as A?



Subject: Re: Need help with msg IEE114I


Instead of multiple replies, I combined them below (irrespective of 
poster):
It looks like it is a spawned UNIX
task.
We're not running/using OMVS, so I don't think this is the case.

Any mount messages pending?
Nope.

These are probably APPC  Transactions.
That may be a possiblity, but when I did a netstat command, it showed an

IP connection with a Windows server, so I don't think APPC is it.

Attached transaction programs.
Thanks for the explanation.

The ATX is not viewable from EJES (we're JES3 - it's similar to SDSF),
so 
I can't display the JCL associated with it.  I tried running a job with 
TYPRUN=SCAN and specifying a catalog proc name that matches the ATX
name, 
but no luck.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Bruce Black


We're not running/using OMVS, so I don't think this is the case.
  


 but when I did a netstat command, it showed an 
IP connection with a Windows server, so I don't think APPC is it.
  
For quite a number of years now, TCP/IP uses OMVS sockets, so you are 
using OMVS if you use TCP.  That IP session may explain the ATX


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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Alan C. Field
Have you got APPC and ASCH started tasks, possibly ASCHINIT tasks?





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Instead of multiple replies, I combined them below (irrespective of 
poster):
It looks like it is a spawned UNIX
task.
We're not running/using OMVS, so I don't think this is the case.

Any mount messages pending?
Nope.

These are probably APPC  Transactions.
That may be a possiblity, but when I did a netstat command, it showed an 
IP connection with a Windows server, so I don't think APPC is it.

Attached transaction programs.
Thanks for the explanation.

The ATX is not viewable from EJES (we're JES3 - it's similar to SDSF), so 
I can't display the JCL associated with it.  I tried running a job with 
TYPRUN=SCAN and specifying a catalog proc name that matches the ATX name, 
but no luck.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
For quite a number of years now, TCP/IP uses OMVS sockets, so you are 
using OMVS if you use TCP.  That IP session may explain the ATX

You're right about TCP/IP and OMVS.  But, I was referring to user 
applications running in OMVS proper.  I suspect your right about IP and 
ATX as well, but I don't know where to look for the JCL that's used to 
spawn this ATX.  If it were APPC, then it would be in the APPCTP VSAM 
file.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Can you tell us what the task name is that is listed as A?

It's a locally name application, e.g. COMETS

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Have you got APPC and ASCH started tasks, possibly ASCHINIT tasks?
Yes, but the APPCTP content has only one *job* in it and it isn't the one 
I'm looking for.

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Peggy Andrews
Do you use a monitor product?

For instance, we use Mainview and if I look at an overview of
what is running, there is a T field for Address Space Type
and the HELP for that field indicates that it is showing values for:
BAT - Batch
STC - Started task
TSO - TSO
ASC - ASCH (APPC) Address Space User
OMV - OpenMVS Address Space User

Something like that may give you a little more insight.

Regards,
Peggy

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Re: Need help with msg IEE114I

2006-03-07 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Richard Tsujimoto wrote:
For quite a number of years now, TCP/IP uses OMVS sockets, so you are 


using OMVS if you use TCP.  That IP session may explain the ATX

You're right about TCP/IP and OMVS.  But, I was referring to user 
applications running in OMVS proper.  I suspect your right about IP and 
ATX as well, but I don't know where to look for the JCL that's used to 
spawn this ATX.  If it were APPC, then it would be in the APPCTP VSAM 
file.
  


ATX is displayed when CHTRKID in the CSCB (see macro IEECHAIN) contains:

CHATXID  EQU   X'05' -   ATX ADDRESS SPACE IDENTIFIER

It does indeed mean APPC Transaction job. (Not sure where this 
attached designation came from. But APPC Transactions are said to be 
attached by the attach manager [on our platform it's the APPC/ASCH 
address spaces] so maybe that's where.]


(E)JES will show the ATX on the Activity display. If you can't see it, 
try issuing the SRESET and YALL commands. Display ATXs === YES on the 
Entry Panel or Primary Selection Criteria window. If started by ASCH, 
the job ID will normally be 'Annn'. For example:


|JobName  StepName ProcStep JobID  
|/  

|EJWSJES2 EJWSMVS   A023

I would run the administrative utility and use the TPKEYS command to 
list all TPs that APPC knows about. Make sure you point to the actual 
APPCTP file used by your APPC procedure. I'm no APPC/MVS expert, but it 
may be possible to spawn an ATX without its JCL being present in 
hlq.APPCTP at all. In any case, other columns (e.g., Owner) on the 
(E)JES Activity display might give you a clue where the task comes from 
or who owns it.


You're right about not being able to browse the JCL. There is none on 
spool. If you cancel the ATX w/dump (i.e., issue KD command) you should 
get a userid.Annn.Dddd.Thhmmss.JOBLOG data set produced. Of 
course, if you do, you might get a nasty phone call from the ATX owner. 
At least that would help answer your question... :-)


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