RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
Hello Mr. John. Thanks again. Best Regards, and have a Nice Day. Sergio -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de McKown, John Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2012 16:59 Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Assunto: Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation My mistake. You cannot do what I was describing with the output in JESMSGLG. You'll need to use the others' suggestions to use SDSF. I do know some other ways, but they are even more "non standard" and require installing some other software. Specifically, you need Dovetailed Technologies "Dataset Pipes" software. It is freely licensed for the download. Personally, I use the SDSF/REXX interface and "suck in" all such SYSOUT using my own REXX program. It is 121 lines long. It can read SYSOUT and put it either to a sequential dataset or a z/OS UNIX file, depending on the options specified. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 . N. Richland Hills . TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone . john.mck...@healthmarkets.com . www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sérgio Lima Costa > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:08 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hello Mr. John. > > Thanks very ,much for your help. > Not a help, but really a lesson. > > I Will try do this here, but Mr. John, today, when look on CICS > SYSOUT, the ABEND messagens was in another report, i.e. > 10.17.35 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) has > occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 876 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 876 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 10.23.42 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 010 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 010 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 10.28.54 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 614 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 614 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 10.47.38 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 145 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 145 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 10.47.52 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 215 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 215 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 11.05.29 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 981 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 981 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 11.24.25 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 886 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 886 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > > This is showed in JESMSGLG. > > Can i do the same for this ? > > Best Regards > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegi
Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
My mistake. You cannot do what I was describing with the output in JESMSGLG. You'll need to use the others' suggestions to use SDSF. I do know some other ways, but they are even more "non standard" and require installing some other software. Specifically, you need Dovetailed Technologies "Dataset Pipes" software. It is freely licensed for the download. Personally, I use the SDSF/REXX interface and "suck in" all such SYSOUT using my own REXX program. It is 121 lines long. It can read SYSOUT and put it either to a sequential dataset or a z/OS UNIX file, depending on the options specified. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 . N. Richland Hills . TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone . john.mck...@healthmarkets.com . www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sérgio Lima Costa > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:08 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hello Mr. John. > > Thanks very ,much for your help. > Not a help, but really a lesson. > > I Will try do this here, but Mr. John, today, when look on > CICS SYSOUT, the ABEND messagens was in another report, i.e. > 10.17.35 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) > has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 876 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 876 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 10.23.42 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 010 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 010 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 10.28.54 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 614 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 614 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 10.47.38 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 145 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 145 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 10.47.52 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 215 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 215 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 11.05.29 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 981 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 981 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > 11.24.25 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code > 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. > 886 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for > message DFHSR0001 is > 886 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 > RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 > > This is showed in JESMSGLG. > > Can i do the same for this ? > > Best Regards > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Thanks Greg, -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de Greg Shirey Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2012 12:48 Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Assunto: Re: RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation Sergio's original question was whether he could do what you described in batch. I'm sure the short answer is yes, though I don't understand the selection criterion, since STC03526 does not appear to be the most recent output data set. Sergio, have you looked at the SDSF Operation and Customization manual? It contains a chapter called "Using SDSF in batch." It's short, but it should get you started. Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:37 AM Sergio, Select the sysout (S) for STC03526 and open it. On the command line type PRT D and enter. Complete the dataset details and enter. When you return to the SYSOUT screen type PRT and enter. Type PRT CLOSE and enter You now have all the sysout in a dataset. This is all documented in the SDSF help menus. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Sérgio Lima Costa > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hello, > > Thanks very much for your help. > Sorry about my bad explanation, below, our CICS SYSOUT, that exist now > in our > system : > > SDSF STATUS DISPLAY ALL CLASSESLINE 1-10 (10) > COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===> CSR > PREFIX=CICSP1 DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SORT=Pos/D SYSNAME= > NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty Queue C Pos SAff ASys Status > CICSP1 STC04235 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3293 > CICSP1 STC03526 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3278 > CICSP1 STC03441 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2742 > CICSP1 STC02900 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2732 > CICSP1 STC02683 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2419 > CICSP1 STC02499 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2362 > CICSP1 STC02431 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2207 > CICSP1 STC01151 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2199 > CICSP1 STC04303 USRCICP15 EXECUTION SYSA SYSA > CICSP1 STC06488 USRCICP 1 PRINT HOLD > > > The file, that I need look, is the Jobid STC03526, Position 3278. > > Regards. > > Sergio > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a de seu sistema. Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees above identified, possibly containing information and or privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, distribution, copy or use without express authorization from the sender. Personal opinions of the sender do not necessarily reflect CETIP's point of view, which is only divulged by authorized personnel." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
Hello Mr. John. Thanks very ,much for your help. Not a help, but really a lesson. I Will try do this here, but Mr. John, today, when look on CICS SYSOUT, the ABEND messagens was in another report, i.e. 10.17.35 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. 876 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message DFHSR0001 is 876 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 10.23.42 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. 010 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message DFHSR0001 is 010 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 10.28.54 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. 614 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message DFHSR0001 is 614 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 10.47.38 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. 145 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message DFHSR0001 is 145 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 10.47.52 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. 215 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message DFHSR0001 is 215 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 11.05.29 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. 981 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message DFHSR0001 is 981 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 11.24.25 STC03526 +DFHSR0001 CICSP1 An abend (code 0C4/AKEA) has occurred at offset X'183C' in program RENINTEG. 886 (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message DFHSR0001 is 886 PIDS/5655S9700 LVLS/660 MS/DFHSR0001 RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UK53808 This is showed in JESMSGLG. Can i do the same for this ? Best Regards -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de McKown, John Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2012 12:25 Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Assunto: Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation >From reading other messages in the thread, you need a way to automatically >report CICS abends to the appropriate group. Your plan is to put this >information to a disk dataset, then process it looking for messages such as: DFHAC2236 02/14/2012 21:33:56 IMCM Transaction GC3# abend ABM3 in program GCXSP970 term . Updates to local recoverable resources Is this correct? These messages go out to the MSGUSG DD. Why not just put those messages to disk directly, perhaps in a GDG. The DSN would include the CICS region name. Perhaps something like: CICS.MSGUSR.&CICSID.(+1) where &CICSID is a PROC variable equal to the name of the region. You could easily read this dataset using the (0) gen, or GDG-ALL processing. If you need it to go to SYSOUT as well, then just put in an IEBGENER step after the CICS region execution step. OK, the problem with the above is that you can't see the messages in "real time" because you won't be able to browse the output dataset while the region is up. I understand that this could be a major problem. I have a solution for this. But it may not be acceptable. Instead of writing the messages to a sequential dataset, write them to a z/OS UNIX file. One "nice" thing is that you can read/browse a UNIX file even while it is still being written to by another job. The DD statement in the CICS JCL would look something like: //MSGUSR DD PATH='/cics/&CICSID..msgusr.txt', // PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),PATHOPTS=(OCREAT,OWRONLY,OAPPEND), // FILEDATA=TEXT, // LRECL=132,RECFM=V,BLKSIZE=136 The OAPPEND is the UNIX equivalent of DISP=MOD, but it doesn't stop others from concurrently reading the file. And you will see all the records because UNIX doesn't "buffer" data the same way that QSAM does. So it's more like SYSOUT in that respect. In a subsequent step, copy the file to SYSOUT and/or the aforementioned disk GDG. Your users will need to learn something new in order to view "real time" messages. A plus to this is that your messages are in a UNIX file. Why is that a plus? Because you can then use UNIX utilities to get the data you need. A short "awk" program might be: #!/bin/awk /^DFHAC2236 / {print $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " $6 " " $8 " " $11 " "
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Thanks Ron. -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de Ron Hawkins Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2012 11:37 Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Assunto: Re: RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation Sergio, Select the sysout (S) for STC03526 and open it. On the command line type PRT D and enter. Complete the dataset details and enter. When you return to the SYSOUT screen type PRT and enter. Type PRT CLOSE and enter You now have all the sysout in a dataset. This is all documented in the SDSF help menus. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Sérgio Lima Costa > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hello, > > Thanks very much for your help. > Sorry about my bad explanation, below, our CICS SYSOUT, that exist now > in our > system : > > SDSF STATUS DISPLAY ALL CLASSESLINE 1-10 (10) > COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===> CSR > PREFIX=CICSP1 DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SORT=Pos/D SYSNAME= > NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty Queue C Pos SAff ASys Status > CICSP1 STC04235 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3293 > CICSP1 STC03526 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3278 > CICSP1 STC03441 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2742 > CICSP1 STC02900 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2732 > CICSP1 STC02683 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2419 > CICSP1 STC02499 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2362 > CICSP1 STC02431 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2207 > CICSP1 STC01151 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2199 > CICSP1 STC04303 USRCICP15 EXECUTION SYSA SYSA > CICSP1 STC06488 USRCICP 1 PRINT HOLD > > > The file, that I need look, is the Jobid STC03526, Position 3278. > > Regards. > > Sergio > > -Mensagem original- > De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em > nome de Miklos Szigetvari Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de > 2012 10:10 > Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Assunto: Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hi > > Hi > > With the REXX SDSF interface you can access the SYSOUT etc . > What do you mean about "last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT ? > > If the CICS is ending you can insert maybe a STEP to do this save/edit > etc actions you need . > > On 2/15/2012 12:59 PM, Sérgio Lima Costa wrote: > > Hello List, > > > > We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF , > > then, give > the XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, next, Edit this file, for locate > all abends, save this file on another file, and send this information > to development people. > > > > So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this process, first , > using XDC running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? > > If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS on > > SYSOUT, > because, today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, for locate the last report. > > The remainder, I know how to do. > > With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from the SYSOUT. > > > > Thanks very much. > > > > Sergio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) > > destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações > > e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido > > por lei. > Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a > de seu sistema. > > Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, > > distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. > > Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o > > ponto de > vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." > > > > "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees > > above identified, possibly containing information and or > privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. > > In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the sender > > and delete > it from your system. > > Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, > > distribution, copy or use without express authorization from the > > sender. Personal opinions of the sender do not necessarily reflect CETIP's > point of view, which
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Sergio's original question was whether he could do what you described in batch. I'm sure the short answer is yes, though I don't understand the selection criterion, since STC03526 does not appear to be the most recent output data set. Sergio, have you looked at the SDSF Operation and Customization manual? It contains a chapter called "Using SDSF in batch." It's short, but it should get you started. Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:37 AM Sergio, Select the sysout (S) for STC03526 and open it. On the command line type PRT D and enter. Complete the dataset details and enter. When you return to the SYSOUT screen type PRT and enter. Type PRT CLOSE and enter You now have all the sysout in a dataset. This is all documented in the SDSF help menus. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Sérgio Lima Costa > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hello, > > Thanks very much for your help. > Sorry about my bad explanation, below, our CICS SYSOUT, that exist now in our > system : > > SDSF STATUS DISPLAY ALL CLASSESLINE 1-10 (10) > COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===> CSR > PREFIX=CICSP1 DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SORT=Pos/D SYSNAME= > NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty Queue C Pos SAff ASys Status > CICSP1 STC04235 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3293 > CICSP1 STC03526 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3278 > CICSP1 STC03441 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2742 > CICSP1 STC02900 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2732 > CICSP1 STC02683 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2419 > CICSP1 STC02499 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2362 > CICSP1 STC02431 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2207 > CICSP1 STC01151 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2199 > CICSP1 STC04303 USRCICP15 EXECUTION SYSA SYSA > CICSP1 STC06488 USRCICP 1 PRINT HOLD > > > The file, that I need look, is the Jobid STC03526, Position 3278. > > Regards. > > Sergio > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
roprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sérgio Lima Costa > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:59 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hello List, > > We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF > , then, give the XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, > next, Edit this file, for locate all abends, save this file > on another file, and send this information to development people. > > So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this > process, first , using XDC running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? > If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS > on SYSOUT, because, today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, > for locate the last report. > The remainder, I know how to do. > With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from > the SYSOUT. > > Thanks very much. > > Sergio > > > > > > > > > > > > "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) > destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), > podendo conter informações e/ou documentos > confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por > lei. Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe > o remetente e apague-a de seu sistema. > Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, > disseminação, distribuição, cópia ou uso sem > expressa autorização do remetente. Opiniões pessoais do > remetente não refletem, necessariamente, > o ponto de vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por > pessoas autorizadas." > > "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the > addressees above identified, possibly > containing information and or privileged/confidential > documents whose content is protected by law. > In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the > sender and delete it from your system. > Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, > distribution, copy or use without > express authorization from the sender. Personal opinions of > the sender do not necessarily reflect > CETIP's point of view, which is only divulged by authorized > personnel." > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Sergio, Select the sysout (S) for STC03526 and open it. On the command line type PRT D and enter. Complete the dataset details and enter. When you return to the SYSOUT screen type PRT and enter. Type PRT CLOSE and enter You now have all the sysout in a dataset. This is all documented in the SDSF help menus. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Sérgio Lima Costa > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hello, > > Thanks very much for your help. > Sorry about my bad explanation, below, our CICS SYSOUT, that exist now in our > system : > > SDSF STATUS DISPLAY ALL CLASSESLINE 1-10 (10) > COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===> CSR > PREFIX=CICSP1 DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SORT=Pos/D SYSNAME= > NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty Queue C Pos SAff ASys Status > CICSP1 STC04235 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3293 > CICSP1 STC03526 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3278 > CICSP1 STC03441 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2742 > CICSP1 STC02900 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2732 > CICSP1 STC02683 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2419 > CICSP1 STC02499 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2362 > CICSP1 STC02431 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2207 > CICSP1 STC01151 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2199 > CICSP1 STC04303 USRCICP15 EXECUTION SYSA SYSA > CICSP1 STC06488 USRCICP 1 PRINT HOLD > > > The file, that I need look, is the Jobid STC03526, Position 3278. > > Regards. > > Sergio > > -Mensagem original- > De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de > Miklos Szigetvari Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2012 10:10 > Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Assunto: Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hi > > Hi > > With the REXX SDSF interface you can access the SYSOUT etc . > What do you mean about "last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT ? > > If the CICS is ending you can insert maybe a STEP to do this save/edit etc > actions you need . > > On 2/15/2012 12:59 PM, Sérgio Lima Costa wrote: > > Hello List, > > > > We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF , then, give > the XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, next, Edit this file, for locate > all abends, save this file on another file, and send this information to > development people. > > > > So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this process, first , > using XDC running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? > > If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT, > because, today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, for locate the last report. > > The remainder, I know how to do. > > With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from the SYSOUT. > > > > Thanks very much. > > > > Sergio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) > > destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações > > e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. > Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a > de seu sistema. > > Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, > > distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. > > Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de > vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." > > > > "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees > > above identified, possibly containing information and or > privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. > > In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the sender and delete > it from your system. > > Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, > > distribution, copy or use without express authorization from the > > sender. Personal opinions of the sender do not necessarily reflect CETIP's > point of view, which is only divulged by authorized personnel." > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > &
Re: RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
Hi There is a red book http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247419.pdf Here you can find several samples, how to read the SYSOUT. I mean, if the CICS is ending, you can insert a jobstep to process the CICS SYSOUT's as you need . On 2/15/2012 1:58 PM, Sérgio Lima Costa wrote: Hello, Thanks very much for your help. Sorry about my bad explanation, below, our CICS SYSOUT, that exist now in our system : SDSF STATUS DISPLAY ALL CLASSESLINE 1-10 (10) COMMAND INPUT ===> SCROLL ===> CSR PREFIX=CICSP1 DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SORT=Pos/D SYSNAME= NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty Queue C Pos SAff ASys Status CICSP1 STC04235 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3293 CICSP1 STC03526 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3278 CICSP1 STC03441 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2742 CICSP1 STC02900 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2732 CICSP1 STC02683 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2419 CICSP1 STC02499 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2362 CICSP1 STC02431 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2207 CICSP1 STC01151 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2199 CICSP1 STC04303 USRCICP15 EXECUTION SYSA SYSA CICSP1 STC06488 USRCICP 1 PRINT HOLD The file, that I need look, is the Jobid STC03526, Position 3278. Regards. Sergio -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de Miklos Szigetvari Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2012 10:10 Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Assunto: Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation Hi Hi With the REXX SDSF interface you can access the SYSOUT etc . What do you mean about "last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT ? If the CICS is ending you can insert maybe a STEP to do this save/edit etc actions you need . On 2/15/2012 12:59 PM, Sérgio Lima Costa wrote: Hello List, We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF , then, give the XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, next, Edit this file, for locate all abends, save this file on another file, and send this information to development people. So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this process, first , using XDC running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT, because, today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, for locate the last report. The remainder, I know how to do. With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from the SYSOUT. Thanks very much. Sergio "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a de seu sistema. Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees above identified, possibly containing information and or privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, distribution, copy or use without express authorization from the sender. Personal opinions of the sender do not necessarily reflect CETIP's point of view, which is only divulged by authorized personnel." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a de seu sistema. Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees above identified, possibly containing information and or privileged/confidential documents whose content is p
RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
Hello, Thanks very much for your help. Sorry about my bad explanation, below, our CICS SYSOUT, that exist now in our system : SDSF STATUS DISPLAY ALL CLASSESLINE 1-10 (10) COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===> CSR PREFIX=CICSP1 DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SORT=Pos/D SYSNAME= NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty Queue C Pos SAff ASys Status CICSP1 STC04235 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3293 CICSP1 STC03526 USRCICP 1 PRINT 3278 CICSP1 STC03441 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2742 CICSP1 STC02900 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2732 CICSP1 STC02683 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2419 CICSP1 STC02499 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2362 CICSP1 STC02431 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2207 CICSP1 STC01151 USRCICP 1 PRINT 2199 CICSP1 STC04303 USRCICP15 EXECUTION SYSA SYSA CICSP1 STC06488 USRCICP 1 PRINT HOLD The file, that I need look, is the Jobid STC03526, Position 3278. Regards. Sergio -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de Miklos Szigetvari Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2012 10:10 Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Assunto: Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation Hi Hi With the REXX SDSF interface you can access the SYSOUT etc . What do you mean about "last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT ? If the CICS is ending you can insert maybe a STEP to do this save/edit etc actions you need . On 2/15/2012 12:59 PM, Sérgio Lima Costa wrote: > Hello List, > > We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF , then, give > the XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, next, Edit this file, for locate > all abends, save this file on another file, and send this information to > development people. > > So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this process, first , > using XDC running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? > If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT, > because, today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, for locate the last report. > The remainder, I know how to do. > With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from the SYSOUT. > > Thanks very much. > > Sergio > > > > > > > > > > > > "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) > destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações > e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. > Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e > apague-a de seu sistema. > Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, > distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. > Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de > vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." > > "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees > above identified, possibly containing information and or > privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. > In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the sender and delete > it from your system. > Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, > distribution, copy or use without express authorization from the > sender. Personal opinions of the sender do not necessarily reflect CETIP's > point of view, which is only divulged by authorized personnel." > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a de seu sistema. Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees above identified, possibly containing information and or privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. In case you have mistakenly received it, please n
RES: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
Hello Lizette. We have ZOS 1.12. Can you please show me the way from how extract data from JES2, and put to a dataset please ? Our CICS production is down all days at 11:00 p.m., and return next Day near 03:00 a.m. The GDG Idea is very well, when i learn how put data from JES2 to a dataset, I Will try this. We don't have ABENDAID from COMPUWARE here. Best Regards, and thanks . Sergio -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de Lizette Koehler Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2012 10:34 Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Assunto: Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation > > Hello List, > > We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF , then, > give the > XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, next, Edit this file, for > locate all abends, > save this file on another file, and send this information to > development people. > > So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this process, > first , using XDC > running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? > If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS on > SYSOUT, because, > today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, for locate the last report. > The remainder, I know how to do. > With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from the SYSOUT. > > Thanks very much. > > Sergio > Sergio do you have SDSF in Shop? And are you at z/OS V1.9 or greater? Then you could use SDSF Rexx. Otherwise if you have SDSF, then you can run SDSF in batch and extract the data from JES (JES2?) and put that to a dataset. Similar to using the XDC command. If this is not real time, how often do you cycle your CICS Region? Would it be possible to send that SYSOUT to a GDG that is created when CICS comes down and then extract information you need? Or do you have Compuware product Abendaid for CICS? Does this help? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a de seu sistema. Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees above identified, possibly containing information and or privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, distribution, copy or use without express authorization from the sender. Personal opinions of the sender do not necessarily reflect CETIP's point of view, which is only divulged by authorized personnel." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
> > Hello List, > > We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF , then, give the > XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, next, Edit this file, for locate all abends, > save this file on another file, and send this information to development people. > > So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this process, first , using XDC > running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? > If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT, because, > today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, for locate the last report. > The remainder, I know how to do. > With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from the SYSOUT. > > Thanks very much. > > Sergio > Sergio do you have SDSF in Shop? And are you at z/OS V1.9 or greater? Then you could use SDSF Rexx. Otherwise if you have SDSF, then you can run SDSF in batch and extract the data from JES (JES2?) and put that to a dataset. Similar to using the XDC command. If this is not real time, how often do you cycle your CICS Region? Would it be possible to send that SYSOUT to a GDG that is created when CICS comes down and then extract information you need? Or do you have Compuware product Abendaid for CICS? Does this help? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Question about XDC BATCH and automation
Hi Hi With the REXX SDSF interface you can access the SYSOUT etc . What do you mean about "last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT ? If the CICS is ending you can insert maybe a STEP to do this save/edit etc actions you need . On 2/15/2012 12:59 PM, Sérgio Lima Costa wrote: Hello List, We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF , then, give the XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, next, Edit this file, for locate all abends, save this file on another file, and send this information to development people. So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this process, first , using XDC running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT, because, today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, for locate the last report. The remainder, I know how to do. With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from the SYSOUT. Thanks very much. Sergio "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a de seu sistema. Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees above identified, possibly containing information and or privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, distribution, copy or use without express authorization from the sender. Personal opinions of the sender do not necessarily reflect CETIP's point of view, which is only divulged by authorized personnel." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Question about XDC BATCH and automation
Hello List, We need all days here, Access the SYSOUT from CICS under SDSF , then, give the XDC command, to save the sysout on DASD, next, Edit this file, for locate all abends, save this file on another file, and send this information to development people. So, we want know, if is possible, made a automation in this process, first , using XDC running a BATCH JOB, this is possible ? If, Yes, have a way, that I know, what is the last CICS JOBS on SYSOUT, because, today, We enter, manually in this SYSOUT, for locate the last report. The remainder, I know how to do. With a sample REXX program, I can extract what We need from the SYSOUT. Thanks very much. Sergio "Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada para uso exclusivo do(s) destinatários(s) acima identificado(s), podendo conter informações e/ou documentos confidencias/privilegiados e seu sigilo é protegido por lei. Caso você tenha recebido por engano, por favor, informe o remetente e apague-a de seu sistema. Notificamos que é proibido por lei a sua retenção, disseminação, distribuição, cópia ou uso sem expressa autorização do remetente. Opiniões pessoais do remetente não refletem, necessariamente, o ponto de vista da CETIP, o qual é divulgado somente por pessoas autorizadas." "Warning: This message was sent for exclusive use of the addressees above identified, possibly containing information and or privileged/confidential documents whose content is protected by law. In case you have mistakenly received it, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Be noticed that the law forbids the retention, dissemination, distribution, copy or use without express authorization from the sender. Personal opinions of the sender do not necessarily reflect CETIP's point of view, which is only divulged by authorized personnel." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN