Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-06 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Lizette,

  A belated Thank You is in order for suggesting TMSAUDIT and then gently 
reminding me when I didn't run it when you first suggested.

  The volume which was scratched had Expdt=LDATE/005 from 2008/323 until 
2009/144. On 2009/149 it was picked up by TMSCLEAN and scratched.

  File now is under Catalog control.
 
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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David,

The second step seems to be a proc over ride statement.  What does the
SYSUT2 DD statement look like in the COPY Proc?

I would think that if there were an issue with CA1 then you would have more
than one tape dataset getting expired and scratched like this.  It is more
likely that the way the job ran caused the tape to be scratched.  The
original output from the job would be so helpful in resolving this issue.
However, since you no longer have that output, I am not sure what other
steps could help identify the issue.

Did you run the TMS AUDIT?  If so, what did it show?



Lizette



 Yes, I did notice that.

 Checking the jcl the first reference to the dataset in question is

 //M4OLD  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG),
 //   UNIT=ETAPE,EXPDT=99000

 The second reference is a Icegener

 //COPY.SYSUT2  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,KEEP)

 One would think Expdt=99000 should have been coded here but that is not
the case.

 I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142
 20.18.36.15. It went from
 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at
 20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF
 but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and
 changed TMS?
 Just a thought


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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
You are welcome.

Sometimes we forget the simplest things and that is what we are here for.
To help us remember the stuff we forget.  :-D 

Lizette


Lizette,

  A belated Thank You is in order for suggesting TMSAUDIT and then gently
reminding me when I didn't run it when you first suggested.

  The volume which was scratched had Expdt=LDATE/005 from 2008/323 until
2009/144. On 2009/149 it was picked up by TMSCLEAN and scratched.

  File now is under Catalog control.
 


.

David,

The second step seems to be a proc over ride statement.  What does the
SYSUT2 DD statement look like in the COPY Proc?

I would think that if there were an issue with CA1 then you would have more
than one tape dataset getting expired and scratched like this.  It is more
likely that the way the job ran caused the tape to be scratched.  The
original output from the job would be so helpful in resolving this issue.
However, since you no longer have that output, I am not sure what other
steps could help identify the issue.

Did you run the TMS AUDIT?  If so, what did it show?



Lizette



 Yes, I did notice that.

 Checking the jcl the first reference to the dataset in question is

 //M4OLD  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG),
 //   UNIT=ETAPE,EXPDT=99000

 The second reference is a Icegener

 //COPY.SYSUT2  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,KEEP)

 One would think Expdt=99000 should have been coded here but that is not
the case.

 I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142
 20.18.36.15. It went from
 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at
 20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF
 but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and
 changed TMS?
 Just a thought


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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-03 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Hi John,

Yes, I did notice that.

Checking the jcl the first reference to the dataset in question is

//M4OLD  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG),  
//   UNIT=ETAPE,EXPDT=99000   

The second reference is a Icegener

//COPY.SYSUT2  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,KEEP)  

One would think Expdt=99000 should have been coded here but that is not the 
case.

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Hi Dave,

I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142
20.18.36.15. It went from
CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at
20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF
but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and
changed TMS?
Just a thought

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
David, 

The second step seems to be a proc over ride statement.  What does the
SYSUT2 DD statement look like in the COPY Proc?

I would think that if there were an issue with CA1 then you would have more
than one tape dataset getting expired and scratched like this.  It is more
likely that the way the job ran caused the tape to be scratched.  The
original output from the job would be so helpful in resolving this issue.
However, since you no longer have that output, I am not sure what other
steps could help identify the issue.

Did you run the TMS AUDIT?  If so, what did it show?



Lizette


 
 Yes, I did notice that.
 
 Checking the jcl the first reference to the dataset in question is
 
 //M4OLD  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG),
 //   UNIT=ETAPE,EXPDT=99000
 
 The second reference is a Icegener
 
 //COPY.SYSUT2  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,KEEP)
 
 One would think Expdt=99000 should have been coded here but that is not
the case.
 
 I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142
 20.18.36.15. It went from
 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at
 20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF
 but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and
 changed TMS?
 Just a thought
 

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-03 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Lizette,

The sysut2 in the proc is

//SYSUT2   DD  DISP=(NEW,KEEP,DELETE)   

I wholeheartedly agree that if this were a CA1 problem we would be talking 
about multiple tapes. However as is usually the case, unless I can prove to the 
user that we didn't scratch his file, it will be our fault. I was hoping that 
DAF would resolve the question but the last reference to this file shows 
Expdt=0 and an examination of the CA1 tape record shows an Expdt=99000.

No, didn't run the TMS audit yet. I'll look into that now.

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

David,

The second step seems to be a proc over ride statement.  What does the
SYSUT2 DD statement look like in the COPY Proc?

I would think that if there were an issue with CA1 then you would have more
than one tape dataset getting expired and scratched like this.  It is more
likely that the way the job ran caused the tape to be scratched.  The
original output from the job would be so helpful in resolving this issue.
However, since you no longer have that output, I am not sure what other
steps could help identify the issue.

Did you run the TMS AUDIT?  If so, what did it show?



Lizette



 Yes, I did notice that.

 Checking the jcl the first reference to the dataset in question is

 //M4OLD  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG),
 //   UNIT=ETAPE,EXPDT=99000

 The second reference is a Icegener

 //COPY.SYSUT2  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,KEEP)

 One would think Expdt=99000 should have been coded here but that is not
the case.

 I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142
 20.18.36.15. It went from
 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at
 20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF
 but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and
 changed TMS?
 Just a thought


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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-03 Thread John Kelly
Hey Dave,

Yeah, since I would assume that SYSUT2 is output, it should update the TMC 
and with no EXPDT=99000 I would image TMS would update it to zeros. Seems 
like they have the EXPDT=99000 on the wrong step because the first one 
seems to have read the tape while the other step wrote to it. Don't 
remember but did you say that this had been running and 'no problems'?

Jack 

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Hi John,

Yes, I did notice that.

Checking the jcl the first reference to the dataset in question is

//M4OLD  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG), 
//   UNIT=ETAPE,EXPDT=99000 

The second reference is a Icegener

//COPY.SYSUT2  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,KEEP) 

One would think Expdt=99000 should have been coded here but that is not 
the case.
 
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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file.

Hi Dave,

I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142
20.18.36.15. It went from
CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at
20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF
but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and
changed TMS?
Just a thought

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-03 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Hi Jack,

That is correct, jcl has been running for years not has not been changed.
I am currently running a TMS Audit, per Lizette's suggestion. Perhaps that will 
shed some light on the subject.

Dave O'Brien
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Hey Dave,

Yeah, since I would assume that SYSUT2 is output, it should update the TMC
and with no EXPDT=99000 I would image TMS would update it to zeros. Seems
like they have the EXPDT=99000 on the wrong step because the first one
seems to have read the tape while the other step wrote to it. Don't
remember but did you say that this had been running and 'no problems'?

Jack

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Hi John,

Yes, I did notice that.

Checking the jcl the first reference to the dataset in question is

//M4OLD  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG),
//   UNIT=ETAPE,EXPDT=99000

The second reference is a Icegener

//COPY.SYSUT2  DD  DSN=HLQ.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=(OLD,KEEP)

One would think Expdt=99000 should have been coded here but that is not
the case.

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
file.

Hi Dave,

I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142
20.18.36.15. It went from
CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at
20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF
but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and
changed TMS?
Just a thought

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)

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Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their tapes.

I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and uncataloged 
the file.

When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so that TMS 
should not have trashed it.
But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0 and back 
again.
The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000, then that 
field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be coded in the JCL 
each time the tape is used?

Dave O'Brien
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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?  

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245 
How is TMOOPT00  coded?  

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY  
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY  
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED  



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914  
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187 

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142   
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187  

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF   
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187 
   
2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF   
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142   
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187 

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset 

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 days 
later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



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 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

 Dave O'Brien
 NIH Contractor

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
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Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 days 
later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer
or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any
other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or
manufactured, since the beginning of time.


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

 Dave O'Brien
 NIH Contractor

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Lizzette,

Sorry, I mis-typed. There are no CA1 exits in use.

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette 
Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 days 
later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer
or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any
other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or
manufactured, since the beginning of time.


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

 Dave O'Brien
 NIH Contractor

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
I forgot one more field.  The OCTLG.  What is that set to.

And that job that uses DISP=OLD has EXPDT=99000 coded?  Amazing.

Lizette



Lizzette,

Sorry, I mis-typed. There are no CA1 exits in use.



Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 
EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 
EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 
days later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer
or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any
other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or
manufactured, since the beginning of time.


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

 Dave O'Brien
 NIH Contractor


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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
OCTLG   YES

DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG), with EXPDT=99000

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette 
Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

I forgot one more field.  The OCTLG.  What is that set to.

And that job that uses DISP=OLD has EXPDT=99000 coded?  Amazing.

Lizette



Lizzette,

Sorry, I mis-typed. There are no CA1 exits in use.



Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 
EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 
EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 
days later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer
or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any
other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or
manufactured, since the beginning of time.


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

 Dave O'Brien
 NIH Contractor


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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
David,

I might run the TMSAUDIT report on the volser and see what it says.  I do not 
know at this point why CA1 might have changed the EXPDT from 99000 to 0 
unless something told it to (TMSCLEAN, or TMSCRATCH) 

See if the AUDIT shows anything.

VOLSER=?? 
TYPE=0,1,2,3,4 
FORMAT=LONG

Lizette



-Original Message-
From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
Sent: Jun 2, 2009 3:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

OCTLG   YES

DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG), with EXPDT=99000

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

I forgot one more field.  The OCTLG.  What is that set to.

And that job that uses DISP=OLD has EXPDT=99000 coded?  Amazing.

Lizette



Lizzette,

Sorry, I mis-typed. There are no CA1 exits in use.



Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in 
the CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 
EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 
EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 
days later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer
or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any
other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or
manufactured, since the beginning of time.


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time

Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread John Kelly
Hi Dave,

I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142 
20.18.36.15. It went from 
CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at 
20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF 
but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and 
changed TMS?
Just a thought 

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)

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