Re: SHARE Trip Reports (Was: RIP snubbing)
Mark Zelden of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 08/29/2009 07:24:16 AM: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:45:55 -0500, John P Kalinich jkali...@csc.com wrote: Let's change the subject. Would the snubbers please SHARE what they learned? Oh, where to begin... http://ew.share.org/proceedingmod/index.cfm?conference_id=21 Might want to start with John Eells session about what is new in z/OS 1.11. Mark Thanks, Mark. I see you were part of the Fully Wired ... session. Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE Trip Reports (Was: RIP snubbing)
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:51:54 -0500, John P Kalinich jkali...@csc.com wrote: Mark Zelden of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 08/29/2009 07:24:16 AM: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:45:55 -0500, John P Kalinich jkali...@csc.com wrote: Let's change the subject. Would the snubbers please SHARE what they learned? Oh, where to begin... http://ew.share.org/proceedingmod/index.cfm?conference_id=21 Might want to start with John Eells session about what is new in z/OS 1.11. Mark Thanks, Mark. I see you were part of the Fully Wired ... session. Yes. It was all last minute, but I appreciated the invite from Sam to participate in a great session that he has done many times at SHARE. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE Trip Reports (Was: RIP snubbing)
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:45:55 -0500, John P Kalinich jkali...@csc.com wrote: Let's change the subject. Would the snubbers please SHARE what they learned? Oh, where to begin... http://ew.share.org/proceedingmod/index.cfm?conference_id=21 Might want to start with John Eells session about what is new in z/OS 1.11. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RIP snubbing
I was not snubbed by anyone! I found everyone to be friendly and inclusive. This old joke once had a point, but now it simply is old and not very funny. Many years ago my dad would berate us for days for a small infraction of the rules, beating the proverbial dead horse. I hated it then, and I hate it now. Can't we get past this, please? -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RIP snubbing
Agree. The same old clique endures ... quite boring. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:00 AM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: I was not snubbed by anyone! I found everyone to be friendly and inclusive. This old joke once had a point, but now it simply is old and not very funny. Many years ago my dad would berate us for days for a small infraction of the rules, beating the proverbial dead horse. I hated it then, and I hate it now. Can't we get past this, please? -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Guy Gardoit z/OS Systems Programming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RIP snubbing
In a message dated 8/28/2009 10:00:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, d...@lists.duda.com writes: infraction of the rules, beating the proverbial dead horse. I hated it then, and I hate it now. Can't we get past this, please? The secret sign is the dead gopher index on twitter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RIP snubbing
I was not snubbed by anyone! I found everyone to be friendly and inclusive. What is 'snubbing'? Or rather what is 'snubbing at SHARE'? Free Online Dictionary said: 1. To ignore or behave coldly toward; slight. To treat, or speak to, in a cold, scornful way. 3. Verb: to insult (someone) deliberately 4. Noun: a deliberately insulting act or remark Merriam-Webster: 'to treat with contempt or neglect' This old joke once had a point, but now it simply is old and not very funny. True! What is so funny about being insulted/ignored? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RIP snubbing
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:33:35 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: I was not snubbed by anyone! I found everyone to be friendly and inclusive. What is 'snubbing'? Or rather what is 'snubbing at SHARE'? Free Online Dictionary said: 1. To ignore or behave coldly toward; slight. To treat, or speak to, in a cold, scornful way. 3. Verb: to insult (someone) deliberately 4. Noun: a deliberately insulting act or remark Merriam-Webster: 'to treat with contempt or neglect' This old joke once had a point, but now it simply is old and not very funny. True! What is so funny about being insulted/ignored? That is not the SHARE definition. See The Devil's IT Dictionary: http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html#snubbing Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RIP snubbing
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:00:12 -0400, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: I was not snubbed by anyone! I found everyone to be friendly and inclusive. This old joke once had a point, but now it simply is old and not very funny. ... I'm guilty first mention this time and I'm unrepentant. I said I was not going to be at SHARE and asked someone to snub people for me. Translation: I wish I were attending but I'm not. Greet people for me. Being a very strong SHARE advocate / bigot, I (and many others) happily took the term snub as a name for typical interactions at SHARE (which are very far removed from a snub). An in-joke that is not very in and not much of a joke but pretty innocuous as far as I'm concerned, and significant enough to be added to the Devil's IT Dictionary as mentioned in this thread. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RIP snubbing
Just a general comment on telling people to stop a thread. I agree this thread should be stopped, and if Darren were monitoring the list like he used to, I'm sure he would have piped up by now or disabled someones ID. Many many threads in the past where people complain just seem to start new threads, like this one. My advice, don't say anything. Threads like this one might die faster that way. And yes, I'm guilty of extending this thread too. Oh well - Share is done and the snubbing will have to be continued again in 6 months! Maybe by then I will have a job and be able to come. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RIP snubbing
Hi Mark, I have attended 6 of the last 8 Shares and I thought I hadn't been snubbed - I mean to the point of feeling a little 'left out'. :-( Now I know that I have been roundly and thoroughly snubbed! :- Thanks for the dictionary link. Linda Mooney - Original Message - From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:46:20 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: RIP snubbing On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:33:35 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: I was not snubbed by anyone! I found everyone to be friendly and inclusive. What is 'snubbing'? Or rather what is 'snubbing at SHARE'? Free Online Dictionary said: 1. To ignore or behave coldly toward; slight. To treat, or speak to, in a cold, scornful way. 3. Verb: to insult (someone) deliberately 4. Noun: a deliberately insulting act or remark Merriam-Webster: 'to treat with contempt or neglect' This old joke once had a point, but now it simply is old and not very funny. True! What is so funny about being insulted/ignored? That is not the SHARE definition. See The Devil's IT Dictionary: http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html#snubbing Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RIP snubbing
Amen Mark Scott J Ford From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:46:20 PM Subject: Re: RIP snubbing On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:33:35 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: I was not snubbed by anyone! I found everyone to be friendly and inclusive. What is 'snubbing'? Or rather what is 'snubbing at SHARE'? Free Online Dictionary said: 1. To ignore or behave coldly toward; slight. To treat, or speak to, in a cold, scornful way. 3. Verb: to insult (someone) deliberately 4. Noun: a deliberately insulting act or remark Merriam-Webster: 'to treat with contempt or neglect' This old joke once had a point, but now it simply is old and not very funny. True! What is so funny about being insulted/ignored? That is not the SHARE definition. See The Devil's IT Dictionary: http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html#snubbing Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SHARE Trip Reports (Was: RIP snubbing)
Let's change the subject. Would the snubbers please SHARE what they learned? Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SHARE Trip Reports (Was: RIP snubbing)
And, any word on when SHARE in Seattle will become active on share.org? I may have to fund it myself, but I don't plan on missing it :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John P Kalinich Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SHARE Trip Reports (Was: RIP snubbing) Let's change the subject. Would the snubbers please SHARE what they learned? Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
