Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
Looks like your group in sdsf has AMSG defined in DSPAUTH. AMSG allows to display messages ONLY. Best regards Mahboob Usman Malik Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU ORG> cc: Sent by: IBM Subject: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF? Mainframe Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .UA.EDU> 17/06/2005 03:01 ص Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List What is NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in the upper right hand corner of SDSF likely to be caused by? I've got a job that runs with MSGCLASS=H where H is a held class. The job has one SYSOUT=* dataset. If I do a ? on the job, I can see the SYSOUT=* dataset's description, but when I put an S next to the dataset name and hit Enter, I get NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED. The explanation of the message in the FM is not much help. I can browse the JESx datasets for the job with no problem. This is only for one particular job's output. I've never hit this problem before that I recall. I have pretty much "do everything" authority in RACF. Thanks, Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
In a message dated 6/17/2005 3:53:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is or was GRPAUTH? I can't find it and I don't remember it. Think it's DSPAUTH=(GROUP) have to look at the MACRO expansion to see all the names. We had one of our APPs loose a bunch of folks and they called up wanting to know why they couldn't delete somebody's OUTPUT. Had to drag out the memo of the departed person not wanting anybody but their ownself to manipulate GROUP output. Anyway, turned it back on and everybody was happy. Well, mollified anyway...some folks are never happy. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
Charles, For problems in SDSF V2.10 I would do the following: Issue the WHO command. This displays your user ID, TSO logon procedure name, terminal ID, group index, and group name of the authorization group you have been assigned to based on ISFGRP macros in ISFPARMS. (For example, an index number of 3 indicates that you were assigned to the group defined by the third ISFGRP macro in ISFPARMS.) Ask the system programmer to check your authorization group against the ISFGRP, ISFNTBL, and ISFFLD macros in ISFPARMS. The macros are described in OS/390 SDSF Customization and Security. If the programmer has used the System Authorization Facility (SAF) for security authorization and has activated the resource class to perform the required checking, SDSF ignores ISFPARMS information. If SAF rejects the security check, do the following: Issue the TSO command, PROFILE WTPMSG MSGID. Try the SDSF request that failed. Note the text of the ICH408I message that appears. This message identifies the profile (by name and class) that caused the authorization failure. Report the complete text of this message when asking for authorization. Have you recently changed the ISF parms? Or activated RACF security for SDSF by activating the SDSF Resource Class? Is the SDSF Started Task Running? Lizette Koehler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
What is or was GRPAUTH? I can't find it and I don't remember it. Bob Ed Finnell wrote: ... > One more again, GRPAUTH=YES? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
In a message dated 6/17/2005 3:15:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In this case, the spool dataset is not empty (SDSF says 5 lines) and the job has finished. One more again, GRPAUTH=YES? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
This looks like the default ISFPARMS delivered with SDSF--see ISF.SISFSRC(ISFPARMS). It groups userids by TSO attributes (TSOAUTH=(...)) and the ISFOPER group has limited display authority. I suspect your userid has only JCL and OPER attributes--can you add ACCT and try it? Bob Charles Mills wrote: There's no relevant message in SYSLOG. Here is the WHO output: USERID=,PROC=IKJACCNT,TERMINAL=TCP1,GRPINDEX=2,GRPNAME=ISF OPER, MVS=OS/390 02.10.00,JES2=OS 2.10,SDSF=HQX7703,ISPF=5.0,RMF/DA=NOTACC, SERVER=NO,SERVERNAME=SDSF,JESNAME=JES2,MEMBER=MVS1,SYSNAME=CPAC,COMM=NOT AVAIL What should I learn from that? (Serious question.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
Yes, I think it is more like something you say than a true "authorization" problem. I have authorization to do pretty much everything. If you look at the documentation for the message, it seems to apply to a Select on a Job (for which no datasets are authorized) rather than a Select on a single spool dataset (as is my case) for which the message does not quite make logical sense. In this case, the spool dataset is not empty (SDSF says 5 lines) and the job has finished. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Schwarz Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF? I believe I have seen this message when there is no output in the sysout, especially if the job is still running. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
I believe I have seen this message when there is no output in the sysout, especially if the job is still running. Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:What is NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in the upper right hand corner of SDSF likely to be caused by? I've got a job that runs with MSGCLASS=H where H is a held class. The job has one SYSOUT=* dataset. If I do a ? on the job, I can see the SYSOUT=* dataset's description, but when I put an S next to the dataset name and hit Enter, I get NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED. The explanation of the message in the FM is not much help. I can browse the JESx datasets for the job with no problem. This is only for one particular job's output. I've never hit this problem before that I recall. I have pretty much "do everything" authority in RACF. Thanks, Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
In a message dated 6/17/2005 11:48:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What should I learn from that? (Serious question.) >> Look at the source for ISFPARMS and see if it's a logical match for GROUP 2. DSPAUTH or something. It's a binary match for all the little bits you can view, if not you get the NOT AUTHORIZED message. There's an SDSF utility that will convert PARMs to RACF syntax. ISFACR from the command line. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
There's no relevant message in SYSLOG. Here is the WHO output: USERID=,PROC=IKJACCNT,TERMINAL=TCP1,GRPINDEX=2,GRPNAME=ISF OPER, MVS=OS/390 02.10.00,JES2=OS 2.10,SDSF=HQX7703,ISPF=5.0,RMF/DA=NOTACC, SERVER=NO,SERVERNAME=SDSF,JESNAME=JES2,MEMBER=MVS1,SYSNAME=CPAC,COMM=NOT AVAIL What should I learn from that? (Serious question.) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF? In a message dated 6/16/2005 7:01:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: problem before that I recall. I have pretty much "do everything" authority in RACF. >> Looks like an ISFPARMS message. If it's RACF should see ICH408 in SYSLOG for Access violation. Guess you can do a WHO in SDSF command line and see GRPINDEX and see if you're in the Group that can view this SYSOUT.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?
In a message dated 6/16/2005 7:01:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: problem before that I recall. I have pretty much "do everything" authority in RACF. >> Looks like an ISFPARMS message. If it's RACF should see ICH408 in SYSLOG for Access violation. Guess you can do a WHO in SDSF command line and see GRPINDEX and see if you're in the Group that can view this SYSOUT.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
