Re: SVC Dumps and DB2

2006-08-08 Thread Robert Wright
Lizett Koehler wrote on 08/08/2006 04:02:23 PM:

> Will look at Compressed to see if it could provide any releif.

We have a large inventory of compressed dumps in Poughkeepsie, and our
experience suggests that you'll save around 40% of the space that you'd use
without compression.

Bob Wright - MVS Service Aids

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Re: SVC Dumps and DB2

2006-08-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks Sam, and everyone else.

We have no issue with the DASD part of the dump.  I have that setup as 
stripped.  It is just the virtual dump I am having difficutly with.  We have 
limited storage and so our MAXSPACE can only go to about 4.5G.  The 6G or 8G is 
out of the question right now.  I was just hoping that the powers that be would 
allow a customer to customize what in DB2 would need to be dumped.  With the 
number of threads, SP, and trans going on, we always run out of MAXSPACE during 
any DB2 SVC Dump process.

Will look at Compressed to see if it could provide any releif.

Lizette

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Re: SVC Dumps and DB2

2006-08-08 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Lizette,

You didn't say COMPRESSED so if you are not you might try it.  It takes
a little CPU but is well worth it give the size reduction for a typical
SVC dump.  As an aside I think IBM plans some day to make some of the
enhancements to SVC dump that have already been incorporated in Stand
Alone dump to reduce the size and then it might be less effective but
for now it is quite an impressive reduction.

We already use MAXSPACE=8000M on our large LPARs (32M) I expect I
will have to increase that again at some point. 

The consideration for us is to have enough frames on the available frame
queue and a robust paging configuration to handle the demand from large
dumps or other spikes in memory use. 

It has been said before but if you come up short and the processor model
you have supports it fight like anything to get them to buy memory.  At
$10K/GIG or $8K/GIG on z9 it is the cheapest thing you can buy to
improve performance.

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
Performance and Availability Management 
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Does anyone know if there is a way to reduce the amount of information
DB2 feels it needs to dump when it requests an SVC Dump?  We had
MAXSPACE set at 4500M and it still was not enough.  

I do have the Dump Data sets SMS managed and STRIPPED (extended format)
so that part should not be a problem.

Or is there a way to calculate how much MAXSPACE will be needed by DB2?


Lizette

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Re: SVC Dumps and DB2

2006-08-03 Thread Lock Lyon
Lizette,

DASD-wise, not sure if you've looked already, but the DB2 V8 Installation 
Guide has dump data set size storage requirements in Chapter 2.  IBM 
support notes that "... summary data in dumps is usually enough to 
diagnose most problems".

Lock Lyon
Compuware Corp




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Does anyone know if there is a way to reduce the amount of information DB2
feels it needs to dump when it requests an SVC Dump?  We had MAXSPACE set 
at
4500M and it still was not enough. 

I do have the Dump Data sets SMS managed and STRIPPED (extended format) so
that part should not be a problem.

Or is there a way to calculate how much MAXSPACE will be needed by DB2? 

Lizette




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Re: SVC Dumps and DB2

2006-08-03 Thread Eatherly, John D [LTD]
We use 6000M without any issues.

Thanks.

John Eatherly


Or is there a way to calculate how much MAXSPACE will be needed by DB2?

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