Re: Spam from SHARE
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Pinnacle wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeff, Most SHARE members understand that vendor support of SHARE is VITAL to keeping SHARE going. There were problems in the registration process that have since been fixed. So now if you check the box not to receive vendor mail prior to the conference, you will not get it. But as Bob Shannon has previously pointed out, when you stop by the vendor booth and they scan your badge, you can expect the Email to come. I have not received any vendor Email prior to SHARE, so I don't know what the fuss is about. Regards, Tom Conley Tom: As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES IBM never co-hosted SHARE. Check your facts once in a while. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Jul 26, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Bob Shannon wrote: As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES IBM never co-hosted SHARE. Check your facts once in a while. bob, You can call it whatever you want, But IBM did pick up a fair amount of the cost of putting SHARE (and GUIDE) on. If you don't want to call it co-hosting fine I will call it what I want to. Will you agree that IBM did pick up a fair amount of putting SHARE (and GUIDE) on? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Jeffrey Deaver wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeff, It shouldn't make any different. SHARE should honor I DONTt WANT to receive email from other companies. Its a privacy issue. By default the answer should be NO nut assumed to be YES Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Jul 26, 2007, at 5:42 AM, David Boyes wrote: ---SNIP- On the other hand, an organization that purports to provide IT education *ought* to know what is acceptable and not acceptable as good practice in a well-run IT organization. SHARE's IT decisions are just embarrassingly bad. This is just another one in a long string of bad decisions. News flash to SHARE: if you insist on combining junk mail with the conference-related announcements, then both go in the trash. It's that simple, guys. Buy a clue. David: Agreed. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: Spam from SHARE They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeff, Most SHARE members understand that vendor support of SHARE is VITAL to keeping SHARE going. There were problems in the registration process that have since been fixed. So now if you check the box not to receive vendor mail prior to the conference, you will not get it. But as Bob Shannon has previously pointed out, when you stop by the vendor booth and they scan your badge, you can expect the Email to come. I have not received any vendor Email prior to SHARE, so I don't know what the fuss is about. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer Systems Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-665-4231(v) 651-610-7670(p) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 06:42 -0400, David Boyes wrote: News flash to SHARE: if you insist on combining junk mail with the conference-related announcements, then both go in the trash. It's that simple, guys. I had SHARE and Smith-Bucklin remove our email address and fax number from their records completely; it was the only way to not receive spam. I also took up the matter with the SHARE Secretary of the time, who politely suggested that I transfer my position as installation rep to someone else who wouldn't mind receiving information about a company's products or services that may be of interest to members or prospects. They just don't get it. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
My first (and last) comment on this subject. I understand that SPAM is annoying, but I have to ask those of you who are complaining to the list about this, do you call every company that sends you junk snail mail trying opt out? If not, why not? I find it a heck of lot easier to press the delete button on my e-mail inbox, than sort through a physical pile of junk mail, personally. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Spam from SHARE On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Pinnacle wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to the attendees reasonable? I can see this being the case. If so, they should just tell people that. Its the way of the world these days. Jeff, Most SHARE members understand that vendor support of SHARE is VITAL to keeping SHARE going. There were problems in the registration process that have since been fixed. So now if you check the box not to receive vendor mail prior to the conference, you will not get it. But as Bob Shannon has previously pointed out, when you stop by the vendor booth and they scan your badge, you can expect the Email to come. I have not received any vendor Email prior to SHARE, so I don't know what the fuss is about. Regards, Tom Conley Tom: As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Is anyone else receiving spam from SHARE on behalf of various vendors. One or two more and I'll be angry enough to look up how to block the entire domain. I checked (or was it unchecked?) a box during the registration process that had to do with receiving email from vendors prior to the conference. Whether checked or unchecked (can't exactly remember now) I indicated that I did *not* want any vendor email prior to the conference and I have not received any -- except -- for those few vendors whose booths I visited at the Technology Exchange over the past several years. But, they send me their email advertising all year 'round. Not just prior to SHARE. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spam from SHARE
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:38:47 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone else receiving spam from SHARE on behalf of various vendors. One or two more and I'll be angry enough to look up how to block the entire domain. Instead of wasting my time with this garbage, maybe they could fix the web scheduling tools which consistently refuse to show more than a fraction of the sessions. ... I grumbled about this a couple SHAREs ago and was told that vendors that are SHARE sponsers get to email SHARE members that have not opted out of SHARE announcements. You don't have use a spam filter; you can ask SHARE not to send them. Either way, you won't get the announcements you actually want (like registration deadline reminders, etc.) I personally hate advertisements and commercials of all kinds, but I grit my teeth and just delete these. The vendors provide income to SHARE. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
