Re: Volume Problem - z/OS 1.4

2005-06-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you can determine which products or functions in your environment can
dynamically alter UCB info, you could start there and place slips traps on
them.  

The first step I would take is to set up an automatic display command (D
U,,,xxx,yy) to display all UCBs that have been affected starting at once per
hour (or whatever level you are comfortable with) on all LPARs.  Then when
you get a hit, review syslog and see when the corruption occurred.  That way
you can narrow the time frame.  

Next go see what batch jobs or onlines were running during that time frame.
What was starting up, shutting down, connecting (like FTP or servers), and
what message were produced.  Then begin to setup up traces for those
functions.  

Then after you eliminate one, go to the next.  Very time consuming but it
will eventually shed light on the culprit.  The IBM UCB Sniffer is very
helpful.

If you have products that assist SMS in managing DASD, like PROSMS, you
could check with those vender(s) first.

Lizette Koehler

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Re: Volume Problem - z/OS 1.4

2005-06-09 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/9/2005 8:29:53 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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How  could the volser get messed up on one LPAR like that? TTOP04 is the
correct  volser but the first LPAR doesn't indicate that. Anyone seen
this  before?



Somethings overlaying it! Guess I'd start with EREP to see
if there were any hardware or software hits in the window.
 
Then check with DASD vendor on uCode levels or known problems relating to  
VOLSER with SHARED DASD.
 
How current is your Maint?

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Re: Volume Problem - z/OS 1.4

2005-06-09 Thread Habres, Richard (IDS ECCS)
This may seem like an obvious solution, but have you tried to vary the
unit offline and online again on the LPAR in error? 

Richard Habres 
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In a message dated 6/9/2005 8:29:53 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How  could the volser get messed up on one LPAR like that? TTOP04 is the
correct  volser but the first LPAR doesn't indicate that. Anyone seen
this  before?



Somethings overlaying it! Guess I'd start with EREP to see
if there were any hardware or software hits in the window.
 
Then check with DASD vendor on uCode levels or known problems relating
to  
VOLSER with SHARED DASD.
 
How current is your Maint?


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Re: Volume Problem - z/OS 1.4

2005-06-09 Thread Bruce Black
Bill, looks like the first 4 bytes of UCBVOLI (volume serial in UCB) 
have been overlaid.


IBM info APAR II13210 describes various UCB overlay problems in IBM and 
ISV code.


APAR OA01712 describes a UCBVOLI overlay.

If you can vary the device offline and back online on the problem LPAR 
it will probably resolve the prroblem.  However, I see it is allocated, 
so you may need to see if it is possible to shutdown the applicaitons 
which have it allocated or tell them to free the device.  You can 
identify them with  D U,,ALLOC,3169,1


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Re: Volume Problem - z/OS 1.4

2005-06-09 Thread Johnson, William
That is how we solved the problem short term to prevent further batch
problems. It happened 2 days in a row on 2 different volumes. Luckily
not on volumes that are high impact, yet. EREP is clean. We just applied
maintenance 2 months ago. (RSU 1104 plus some additional PTF's beyond
that)

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Antares Management Solutions
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This may seem like an obvious solution, but have you tried to vary the
unit offline and online again on the LPAR in error? 

Richard Habres 
AVP;  Enterprise Storage Technology 
Merrill Lynch 

 


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Re: Volume Problem - z/OS 1.4

2005-06-09 Thread Ed Gould
on 6/9/05 9:35 AM, Ed Finnell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 6/9/2005 8:29:53 A.M. Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 How  could the volser get messed up on one LPAR like that? TTOP04 is the
 correct  volser but the first LPAR doesn't indicate that. Anyone seen
 this  before?

I have seen this before. Usually an OEM vendor has overlayed a UCB... It
used to happen often, haven't seen it in years.

Ed

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