SV: SV: SV: How to splitting loadmudules

2011-09-09 Thread Thomas Berg
There is no missing CSECTs ? 
(I'm using NOCALL, in the example by Tom below there would be bare/NOCALL 
modules: X, Y, Z and N.  And maybe Y(2) and Z(2) which would be placed on 
another loadlib.)

 
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  On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:11:37 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
 
  There's a LOT of duplicates of submodules. And it reads all CSECTs.
 
  So you have load module A containing CSECTS X, Y and Z.
  You also have load module B containing CSECTS N, Y and Z.
 
  And you are certain that CSECTS Y and Z in load modules A and B
  perform identical functions?
 
 I'm also checking linkdates and sizes.
 
 
 
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Re: SV: SV: SV: How to splitting loadmudules

2011-09-09 Thread John P Kalinich
I am assuming the calling sequence in A is: 

LR15,=V(X)
BASR R14,R15

How are you going to change that code in A?

Regards,
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There is no missing CSECTs ? 
(I'm using NOCALL, in the example by Tom below there would be 
bare/NOCALL modules: X, Y, Z and N.  And maybe Y(2) and Z(2) which would 
be placed on another loadlib.)

 
Regards, 
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  On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:11:37 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
 
  There's a LOT of duplicates of submodules. And it reads all CSECTs.
 
  So you have load module A containing CSECTS X, Y and Z.
  You also have load module B containing CSECTS N, Y and Z.
 
  And you are certain that CSECTS Y and Z in load modules A and B
  perform identical functions?
 
 I'm also checking linkdates and sizes.
 
 
 
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SV: SV: SV: SV: How to splitting loadmudules

2011-09-09 Thread Thomas Berg
I'm not going to RUN these delinked modules! 
They are just for the BIND MANAGER to read and search for whatever (contoken I 
assume). 
(They are just indata here.)


 
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 I am assuming the calling sequence in A is:
 
 LR15,=V(X)
 BASR R14,R15
 
 How are you going to change that code in A?
 
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 There is no missing CSECTs ?
 (I'm using NOCALL, in the example by Tom below there would be
 bare/NOCALL modules: X, Y, Z and N.  And maybe Y(2) and Z(2) which would
 be placed on another loadlib.)
 
 
 Regards,
 Thomas Berg
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  How is the relink going to resolve the missing CSECT's?
 
  Regards,
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   On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:11:37 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
  
   There's a LOT of duplicates of submodules. And it reads all CSECTs.
  
   So you have load module A containing CSECTS X, Y and Z.
   You also have load module B containing CSECTS N, Y and Z.
  
   And you are certain that CSECTS Y and Z in load modules A and B
   perform identical functions?
 
  I'm also checking linkdates and sizes.
 
 
 
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Re: SV: SV: SV: How to splitting loadmudules

2011-09-09 Thread zMan
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote:
 I'm not going to RUN these delinked modules!
 They are just for the BIND MANAGER to read and search for whatever (contoken 
 I assume).
 (They are just indata here.)

Howzabout folks stop telling him he doesn't want to do what he clearly
*does* want to do, and try to answer his question? Y'all sound like a
bunch of UNIX weenies. Sheesh.
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Re: SV: SV: SV: SV: How to splitting loadmudules

2011-09-09 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

 Hi

Some BINDER options: NE (non editable) and/or STRIPSEC to decrease the 
size of a load module


On 9/9/2011 2:19 PM, Thomas Berg wrote:

I'm not going to RUN these delinked modules!
They are just for the BIND MANAGER to read and search for whatever (contoken I 
assume).
(They are just indata here.)


  
Regards,

Thomas Berg
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I am assuming the calling sequence in A is:

LR15,=V(X)
BASR R14,R15

How are you going to change that code in A?

Regards,
John K






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(I'm using NOCALL, in the example by Tom below there would be
bare/NOCALL modules: X, Y, Z and N.  And maybe Y(2) and Z(2) which would
be placed on another loadlib.)


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Thomas,

How is the relink going to resolve the missing CSECT's?

Regards,
John K






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On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:11:37 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:


There's a LOT of duplicates of submodules. And it reads all CSECTs.

So you have load module A containing CSECTS X, Y and Z.
You also have load module B containing CSECTS N, Y and Z.

And you are certain that CSECTS Y and Z in load modules A and B
perform identical functions?

I'm also checking linkdates and sizes.



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SV: SV: SV: SV: SV: How to splitting loadmudules

2011-09-09 Thread Thomas Berg
Thanks!  I will try it.  (Although I have to test this thoroughly as I must be 
sure BIND MGR can handle it.) 

 
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   Hi
 
 Some BINDER options: NE (non editable) and/or STRIPSEC to decrease the
 size of a load module
 
 On 9/9/2011 2:19 PM, Thomas Berg wrote:
  I'm not going to RUN these delinked modules!
  They are just for the BIND MANAGER to read and search for whatever
 (contoken I assume).
  (They are just indata here.)
 
 
 
  Regards,
  Thomas Berg
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  I am assuming the calling sequence in A is:
 
  LR15,=V(X)
  BASR R14,R15
 
  How are you going to change that code in A?
 
  Regards,
  John K
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  (I'm using NOCALL, in the example by Tom below there would be
  bare/NOCALL modules: X, Y, Z and N.  And maybe Y(2) and Z(2) which
 would
  be placed on another loadlib.)
 
 
  Regards,
  Thomas Berg
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  How is the relink going to resolve the missing CSECT's?
 
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  On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:11:37 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
 
  There's a LOT of duplicates of submodules. And it reads all CSECTs.
  So you have load module A containing CSECTS X, Y and Z.
  You also have load module B containing CSECTS N, Y and Z.
 
  And you are certain that CSECTS Y and Z in load modules A and B
  perform identical functions?
  I'm also checking linkdates and sizes.
 
 
 
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  Thomas Berg
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Re: SV: SV: SV: SV: How to splitting loadmudules

2011-09-09 Thread Don Imbriale
I believe good old reliable PDS on the CBT tape has commands to generate
link-edit/binder control cards for a load module (or all load modules in a
library).  If so, they could be captured and the appropriate NAME cards
inserted by a REXX program.

- Don Imbriale

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote:

 Thanks!  I will try it.  (Although I have to test this thoroughly as I must
 be sure BIND MGR can handle it.)


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Hi
 
  Some BINDER options: NE (non editable) and/or STRIPSEC to decrease the
  size of a load module
 
  On 9/9/2011 2:19 PM, Thomas Berg wrote:
   I'm not going to RUN these delinked modules!
   They are just for the BIND MANAGER to read and search for whatever
  (contoken I assume).
   (They are just indata here.)
  
  
  
   Regards,
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   I am assuming the calling sequence in A is:
  
   LR15,=V(X)
   BASR R14,R15
  
   How are you going to change that code in A?
  
   Regards,
   John K
  
  
  
  
  
  
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   (I'm using NOCALL, in the example by Tom below there would be
   bare/NOCALL modules: X, Y, Z and N.  And maybe Y(2) and Z(2) which
  would
   be placed on another loadlib.)
  
  
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   How is the relink going to resolve the missing CSECT's?
  
   Regards,
   John K
  
  
  
  
  
  
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   On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:11:37 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
  
   There's a LOT of duplicates of submodules. And it reads all CSECTs.
   So you have load module A containing CSECTS X, Y and Z.
   You also have load module B containing CSECTS N, Y and Z.
  
   And you are certain that CSECTS Y and Z in load modules A and B
   perform identical functions?
   I'm also checking linkdates and sizes.
  
  
  
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