Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
A user just reported that RETPD is ignored in the job for a new tape allocation with DISP=(NEW,DELETE) under zOS 1.9. Under zOS 1.9 the tape is assigned a RETPD of one day, but under zOS 1.8 the REPTD that is specified in the JCL is honored. Is this a bug or a feature? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Progress doesn't come from early risers - progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. Robert A. Heinlein - Time Enought for Love(1973) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
Mark - We ran a test comparing our zOS1.7 system against the tech system where we have zOS1.9 installed and got the same results on both systems. Could it be something local to your environment rather than zOS1.9? ddkeller A user just reported that RETPD is ignored in the job for a new tape allocation with DISP=(NEW,DELETE) under zOS 1.9. Under zOS 1.9 the tape is assigned a RETPD of one day, but under zOS 1.8 the REPTD that is specified in the JCL is honored. Is this a bug or a feature? -- Mark Jacobs ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
We recently had a case where the user swore RETPD was broken. Their intent was to use 99365 but used 99360 instead, which wasn't honored and retention slipped to default in TLMS. It doesn't flag as an error. My two farthings worth. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
Could we know what Tape Management system you're using? From: Mark Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 5/16/2008 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9 A user just reported that RETPD is ignored in the job for a new tape allocation with DISP=(NEW,DELETE) under zOS 1.9. Under zOS 1.9 the tape is assigned a RETPD of one day, but under zOS 1.8 the REPTD that is specified in the JCL is honored. Is this a bug or a feature? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Progress doesn't come from early risers - progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. Robert A. Heinlein - Time Enought for Love(1973) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: Could we know what Tape Management system you're using? CA/1 in both environments. From: Mark Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 5/16/2008 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9 A user just reported that RETPD is ignored in the job for a new tape allocation with DISP=(NEW,DELETE) under zOS 1.9. Under zOS 1.9 the tape is assigned a RETPD of one day, but under zOS 1.8 the REPTD that is specified in the JCL is honored. Is this a bug or a feature? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Progress doesn't come from early risers - progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. Robert A. Heinlein - Time Enought for Love(1973) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Progress doesn't come from early risers - progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. Robert A. Heinlein - Time Enought for Love(1973) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:20:01 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: A user just reported that RETPD is ignored in the job for a new tape allocation with DISP=(NEW,DELETE) under zOS 1.9. Under zOS 1.9 the tape is assigned a RETPD of one day, but under zOS 1.8 the REPTD that is specified in the JCL is honored. Is this a bug or a feature? Coding DELETE with a non-zero RETPD strikes me as an inconsistency that could reasonably be treated as a JCL error. What was the user's intent in doing so? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:20:01 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: A user just reported that RETPD is ignored in the job for a new tape allocation with DISP=(NEW,DELETE) under zOS 1.9. Under zOS 1.9 the tape is assigned a RETPD of one day, but under zOS 1.8 the REPTD that is specified in the JCL is honored. Is this a bug or a feature? Coding DELETE with a non-zero RETPD strikes me as an inconsistency that could reasonably be treated as a JCL error. What was the user's intent in doing so? -- gil I happen to agree with you, but our operations supervisor is concerned about the different action being observed between zOS 1.9 and older releases of zOS. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Progress doesn't come from early risers - progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. Robert A. Heinlein - Time Enought for Love(1973) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
In a message dated 5/16/2008 9:21:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We ran a test comparing our zOS1.7 system against the tech system where we have zOS1.9 installed and got the same results on both systems. Could it be something local to your environment rather than zOS1.9? ddkeller IIRC the default RETPD/EXPDT for tapes is controlled by tape mgmt PARMS? **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 5/16/2008 9:21:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We ran a test comparing our zOS1.7 system against the tech system where we have zOS1.9 installed and got the same results on both systems. Could it be something local to your environment rather than zOS1.9? ddkeller IIRC the default RETPD/EXPDT for tapes is controlled by tape mgmt PARMS? I'm am also leaning towards the tape management system also but in theory all the options and control files should be the same across each environment in the plex. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL Progress doesn't come from early risers - progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. Robert A. Heinlein - Time Enought for Love(1973) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
In a message dated 5/16/2008 11:09:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: theory all the options and control files should be the same across each environment in the plex. Might be worth a ring to the vendor or their knowledge base??? **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
Are the tapes having issues all the same type? Or is it to a specific type of tape. If you have a VTS, are those tapes seeing this issue? If you have an ATL, are those tapes seeing this issue? If you have a native 3490 or 3480, are those tapes seeing this issue? The question have to do with the OAM and CA1 interface. If you are using the CBRUXENT CBRUXEJC CBRUXVNL It might be with one of those, since they need to be run under your zOS SMPE environment but the usermod is in CA1. Lizette In a message dated 5/16/2008 9:21:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We ran a test comparing our zOS1.7 system against the tech system where we have zOS1.9 installed and got the same results on both systems. Could it be something local to your environment rather than zOS1.9? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
Would this help? ALLOCxx 2DGT_EXPDT POLICY(ALLOW/WARN/FAIL) -Original Message- Daniel McLaughlin We recently had a case where the user swore RETPD was broken. Their intent was to use 99365 but used 99360 instead, which wasn't honored and retention slipped to default in TLMS. It doesn't flag as an error. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. Probably worth a check. -Original Message- Mark Jacobs in theory all the options and control files should be the same across each environment in the plex. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
The other area to check out for CA1 is the PPOPTION(TMOOPT00) CL05236S The usermod CL05236 may be customized at your shop for TMX EXPDT processing or the TMOOPT00 member may have changed. Lizette Are the tapes having issues all the same type? Or is it to a specific type of tape. If you have a VTS, are those tapes seeing this issue? If you have an ATL, are those tapes seeing this issue? If you have a native 3490 or 3480, are those tapes seeing this issue? The question have to do with the OAM and CA1 interface. If you are using the CBRUXENT CBRUXEJC CBRUXVNL It might be with one of those, since they need to be run under your zOS SMPE environment but the usermod is in CA1. We ran a test comparing our zOS1.7 system against the tech system where we have zOS1.9 installed and got the same results on both systems. Could it be something local to your environment rather than zOS1.9? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9
Having reread my own post, I meant EXPDT... Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/16/2008 12:55:18 PM: Ken Porowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 05/16/2008 12:55 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9 -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Ken Porowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tape Expdt differences in zOS 1.9 --- Would this help? ALLOCxx 2DGT_EXPDT POLICY(ALLOW/WARN/FAIL) -Original Message- Daniel McLaughlin We recently had a case where the user swore RETPD was broken. Their intent was to use 99365 but used 99360 instead, which wasn't honored and retention slipped to default in TLMS. It doesn't flag as an error. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Best Overall Third-Party Claims Administrator - 2007 Business Insurance Readers Choice Awards Consider the environment before printing this message. This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer, or the employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
