Re: GDG definition for DB2 DSNUTILB TEMPLATE

2012-10-25 Thread af dc
Thx to you all. After testing no rolled-off gdgs were found.
A.Cecilio

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

 A.Cecilio wrote:

 I know that this list isn't for DB2 isssues, I'm not a DB2 person,

 //STEP001  EXEC DB2COPY,UID='S44A'

 As a SMS person (seen on your last post), you could perhaps, as a last
 resort, insert an IDCAMS step with the DEFINE GDG statement just before
 that DB2COPY step.

 HTH!

 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht

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Runtime Diagnostic messages

2012-10-25 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Just started Runtime Diagnostic HZR address space, wondering where are 
the diagnostic reports, and I found some in the
Health Check , PFA_SMF_ARRIVAL_RATE report about an address space using 
extensive CPU.
Any possibility to get notified somehow if a runtime diagnostic event 
occurs ?


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Re: Runtime Diagnostic messages

2012-10-25 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Did you try F HZR,ANALYZE? 

MA

On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:29:37 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari 
miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote:

Hi

Just started Runtime Diagnostic HZR address space, wondering where are
the diagnostic reports, and I found some in the
Health Check , PFA_SMF_ARRIVAL_RATE report about an address space using
extensive CPU.
Any possibility to get notified somehow if a runtime diagnostic event
occurs ?

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Re: Runtime Diagnostic messages

2012-10-25 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

I'm trying this.
But it is saying no event was found.

I was surprised to find an extensive CPU event in the SMF_ARRIVAL_RATE 
report, but

now I read it is so.
Still wondering why


On 25.10.2012 15:13, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:

Did you try F HZR,ANALYZE?

MA

On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:29:37 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari 
miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote:


Hi

Just started Runtime Diagnostic HZR address space, wondering where are
the diagnostic reports, and I found some in the
Health Check , PFA_SMF_ARRIVAL_RATE report about an address space using
extensive CPU.
Any possibility to get notified somehow if a runtime diagnostic event
occurs ?

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Re: Disabling interrupt and trace for Rexx execs

2012-10-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5087f360.2060...@valley.net, on 10/24/2012
   at 09:55 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said:

If you want to prevent interruptions, the stand way is to issue  an
ENQ with the (authorized) System Must Complete (SMC) option.

Hasn't that been dead for decades? Certainly the current version of
ENQ only accpets SMC=NONE and SMC=STEP.

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Re: Disabling interrupt and trace for Rexx execs

2012-10-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
7519195663602734.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 10/24/2012
   at 09:23 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:

Try this in REXX: ISPEXEC CONTROL DISPLAY LOCK

Only if he's running under ISPF.

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Re: SMS Diagnosis/trace?

2012-10-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3386938900015915.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
10/24/2012
   at 10:55 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

There's too much DWIM here.

Au contraire; it *didn't* do what you meant. DWIM is hard if not
impossible.

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Re: Peculiar behavior of D PROG,LNKLST.

2012-10-25 Thread Bruce Schaefer
I apologize that I forgot about my initial post. 

First, I realize that my memory failed me when I issued D 
PROG,LNKLST,NAME=lnklstset,USERS.  I hope the syntax is now burned in.

Second, I tried Peter's suggestion:
-setprog apf,add,dsn=a.b,sms apf,delete,dsn=a.b,sms 
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B ADDED TO APF LIST 
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B DELETED FROM APF LIST 

-setprog apf,add,dsn=a.b,sms,apf,delete,dsn=a.b,sms 
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B ADDED TO APF LIST 
 ASA101I SYNTAX ERROR: , WAS SEEN, WHERE ONE OF 
 (APF EXIT LNKLST SYSLIB
 LPA DEFAULTS REFRPROT NOREFRPROT   
 TRACKDIRLOAD ) 
 WOULD BE CORRECT.  
 DETECTING MODULE IS CSVPRTMS   
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B DELETED FROM APF LIST 

One might describe it as SETPROG initiates the 'service' and buffer end, 
terminates the service. One can even pass junk as the first operand:
-setprog junk apf,add,dsn=a.b,sms apf,delete,dsn=a.b,sms   
 ASA101I SYNTAX ERROR: NON-KEYWORD WAS SEEN, WHERE ONE OF
 (APF EXIT LNKLST SYSLIB   
 LPA DEFAULTS REFRPROT NOREFRPROT  
 TRACKDIRLOAD )
 WOULD BE CORRECT. 
 DETECTING MODULE IS CSVPRTMS  
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B ADDED TO APF LIST
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B DELETED FROM APF LIST

Third, after opening the manual, I learned of other forms of D PROG,APF, so I 
tried:
-D PROG,APF,DSN=CEE.SCEERUN   
 CSV450I 11.38.04 PROG,APF DISPLAY 569
 FORMAT=DYNAMIC   
 ENTRY VOLUME DSNAME  
1  RST01A CEE.SCEERUN 
-D PROG,APF,ENTRY=1   
 CSV450I 11.38.59 PROG,APF DISPLAY 571
 FORMAT=DYNAMIC   
 ENTRY VOLUME DSNAME  
1  RST01A SYS1.LINKLIB

Since SCEERUN is actually #75, why does the first command say it's entry 1?

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Re: Peculiar behavior of D PROG,LNKLST.

2012-10-25 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Per the latest MVS System Messages Volume 4 (CBD - DMO):

CSV450I hh.mm.ss PROG,APF DISPLAY
...
ENTRY n
The entry number being displayed. This is not necessarily the order of the 
entries within the APF list.

Regards,

Kevin

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Subject: Re: Peculiar behavior of D PROG,LNKLST.

I apologize that I forgot about my initial post. 

First, I realize that my memory failed me when I issued D 
PROG,LNKLST,NAME=lnklstset,USERS.  I hope the syntax is now burned in.

Second, I tried Peter's suggestion:
-setprog apf,add,dsn=a.b,sms apf,delete,dsn=a.b,sms 
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B ADDED TO APF LIST 
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B DELETED FROM APF LIST 

-setprog apf,add,dsn=a.b,sms,apf,delete,dsn=a.b,sms 
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B ADDED TO APF LIST 
 ASA101I SYNTAX ERROR: , WAS SEEN, WHERE ONE OF 
 (APF EXIT LNKLST SYSLIB
 LPA DEFAULTS REFRPROT NOREFRPROT   
 TRACKDIRLOAD ) 
 WOULD BE CORRECT.  
 DETECTING MODULE IS CSVPRTMS   
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B DELETED FROM APF LIST 

One might describe it as SETPROG initiates the 'service' and buffer end, 
terminates the service. One can even pass junk as the first operand:
-setprog junk apf,add,dsn=a.b,sms apf,delete,dsn=a.b,sms   
 ASA101I SYNTAX ERROR: NON-KEYWORD WAS SEEN, WHERE ONE OF
 (APF EXIT LNKLST SYSLIB   
 LPA DEFAULTS REFRPROT NOREFRPROT  
 TRACKDIRLOAD )
 WOULD BE CORRECT. 
 DETECTING MODULE IS CSVPRTMS  
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B ADDED TO APF LIST
 CSV410I SMS-MANAGED DATA SET A.B DELETED FROM APF LIST

Third, after opening the manual, I learned of other forms of D PROG,APF, so I 
tried:
-D PROG,APF,DSN=CEE.SCEERUN   
 CSV450I 11.38.04 PROG,APF DISPLAY 569
 FORMAT=DYNAMIC   
 ENTRY VOLUME DSNAME  
1  RST01A CEE.SCEERUN 
-D PROG,APF,ENTRY=1   
 CSV450I 11.38.59 PROG,APF DISPLAY 571
 FORMAT=DYNAMIC   
 ENTRY VOLUME DSNAME  
1  RST01A SYS1.LINKLIB

Since SCEERUN is actually #75, why does the first command say it's entry 1?

Thanks again!

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Re: Disabling interrupt and trace for Rexx execs

2012-10-25 Thread Arthur T.
On 24 Oct 2012 05:01:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 
(Message-ID:CAOdPEgS8iox=fbnffUY0s76c1DFkaRo9B=kwt3k_xtrm810...@mail.gmail.com) 
imugz...@gmail.com (Itschak Mugzach) wrote:


We have a rexx exec that performs functionality we don't 
want to be

interrupted or traced in any way.


I infer from your desire not to be traced that you'd like 
to keep the actual code hidden from the users.  Unless 
you've compiled your REXX code, all they need to do is look 
directly at the code.  Even if that isn't the reason, if 
your code isn't compiled a user could copy it and remove 
any don't interrupt or don't trace within it.


You haven't said WHY you want to disable these things.


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Re: Disabling interrupt and trace for Rexx execs

2012-10-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 10/25/2012 4:17 PM, Arthur T. wrote:

I infer from your desire not to be traced that you'd like to
keep the actual code hidden from the users.  Unless you've
compiled your REXX code, all they need to do is look directly at
the code.  Even if that isn't the reason, if your code isn't
compiled a user could copy it and remove any don't interrupt
or don't trace within it.


Unless IBM has made changes recently, a compiled REXX program 
retains all the source. This is used to run at installations 
that don't license the compiler, but only the interpreter.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: Disabling interrupt and trace for Rexx execs

2012-10-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:28:45 -0400, Dave Salt wrote:

 Unless IBM has made changes recently, a compiled REXX program 
 retains all the source. This is used to run at installations 
 that don't license the compiler, but only the interpreter.
 
 Gerhard Postpischil

That's true, but REXX can be compiled in such a way that the source isn't 
visible to anyone.

Compiled in such a way that it can't run at installations that don't
license the compiler?  Or encrypted, where only the interpreter has the key?
If the latter, sooner or later someone will reverse-engineer it.  But I'm
not a cryptographer.

Interesting, and possibly related behaviors:

Whether a tab ('05'x) character in the interpreted Rexx code causes
a syntax error or is treated as harmless whitespace depends on
whether the EXEC is loaded from SYSEXEC or SYSPROC.  I forget
which direction.  IIRC it was a rude surprise when I moved to
SYSEXEC an EXEC that I had been running for years from SYSPROC
with no problem and it abruptly failed.

And the behavior is further modulated by whether the EXEC contains
a SOURCELINE() function (but you can fool it with INTERPRET, but it's
not easy)  I discovered that when trying to analyze the behavior.

There ought to be an APARable bug in here somewhere;  either '05'x
is legal or it isn't; can't be both.  WAD?

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Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost

2012-10-25 Thread Lindy Mayfield
I fell asleep reading mine, and at the same time spilt red wine on it.  But 
still I wouldn't give/sell it.  I only paid about $50 for it from a used book 
place, I forget where.  It was about 6 years ago.

It would be totally cool if he updated it with PC routines, for example.

Lindy

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Subject: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost

I regret I made an error when I quoted the cost of the Carmine book.  So here 
is a quick table of costs.  All numbers are in USD unless specified as CANADA)


ChaptersNew  Usually ships in 1 to 4 weeks   116.84 
(Canada) 
Amazon.ca (Marketplace) Used Ready to ship   113.33 
(Canada) 
Amazon (Marketplace)Used Ready to ship   495.00  
Alibris Used Ready to ship   505.00 
AbeBooksUsed Ships in 2 days 505.00 
Textbooks.com (Marketplace) Used In stock and ready to ship  505.00 
BN Marketplace Used Usually ships in 24 hours   505.00 
ValoreBooks.com Used Usually ships in 2 days 556.80 


And those of you who gave it away - be sad - be very sad.

Lizette

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Re: Disabling interrupt and trace for Rexx execs

2012-10-25 Thread Dave Salt
 From: paulgboul...@aim.com
 Compiled in such a way that it can't run at installations that don't
 license the compiler?  Or encrypted, where only the interpreter has the key?

Even though the source code isn't visible, it's still there and can still be 
executed at sites that don't license the compiler.
 
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Re: Disabling interrupt and trace for Rexx execs

2012-10-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

On 10/25/2012 10:28 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

Hasn't that been dead for decades? Certainly the current version of
ENQ only accpets SMC=NONE and SMC=STEP.


FSVO decades. It's in OS/390; I haven't had a chance to try it 
under z/OS. And there is always the possibility that they kept 
the function, but removed ways to get it, a la LABEL SVC.


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