Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

With egg on face, I misread the string every time. Other guy fixed his command; 
it works. Thanks and apologies. 

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Skip, 

I'm suggesting that he's entering the wrong command - LISTDS instead of 
LISTDSD.  

Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company 


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Answering multiple questions.

PROFILE -- I have PREFIX set, but the command works for me without prepending 
my prefix. 

WAD -- If you do TSO H LISTDSD SYN you will see that the keyword PREFIX() is a 
valid filter. For me it's being interpreted that way; for the other guy it's 
ignoring '(ABC)' altogether and treating the keyword as a data set value. 

We are logged on to the same system @ 2.1. 

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Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

[Greg Shirey]

Skip, 

I'm suggesting that he's entering the wrong command - LISTDS instead of 
LISTDSD.  

Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company 


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Answering multiple questions.

PROFILE -- I have PREFIX set, but the command works for me without prepending 
my prefix. 

WAD -- If you do TSO H LISTDSD SYN you will see that the keyword PREFIX() is a 
valid filter. For me it's being interpreted that way; for the other guy it's 
ignoring '(ABC)' altogether and treating the keyword as a data set value. 

We are logged on to the same system @ 2.1. 

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Re: Fwd: Shark Tank: Is this why mainframes almost never get rebooted?

[Charles Mills]

Ha! You can download COMMAND.COM here 
http://www.allbootdisks.com/disk_contents/dos.html. The 1988 MS-DOS 3.3 variant 
is 25.3K

Charles

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> COMMAND.COM in the late 80s was way smaller than 65K

Good grief! Indeed, the minimum IBM PC was 16K! ("Pricing started at US$1,565 
(equivalent to $4,073 in 2015) for a configuration with 16K RAM, Color Graphics 
Adapter, and no disk drives." -- 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer#Debut) 

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Re: Fwd: Shark Tank: Is this why mainframes almost never get rebooted?

[Charles Mills]

> COMMAND.COM in the late 80s was way smaller than 65K

Good grief! Indeed, the minimum IBM PC was 16K! ("Pricing started at US$1,565 
(equivalent to $4,073 in 2015) for a configuration with 16K RAM, Color Graphics 
Adapter, and no disk drives." -- 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer#Debut) 

Charles

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I think there's at best a great deal of "faulty memory" here. Something was 
nagging, so I just did a bit of research. COMMAND.COM in the late 80s was way 
smaller than 65K.

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Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

Answering multiple questions.

PROFILE -- I have PREFIX set, but the command works for me without prepending 
my prefix. 

WAD -- If you do TSO H LISTDSD SYN you will see that the keyword PREFIX() is a 
valid filter. For me it's being interpreted that way; for the other guy it's 
ignoring '(ABC)' altogether and treating the keyword as a data set value. 

We are logged on to the same system @ 2.1. 

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That's the message you get if you issue [tso] LISTDS PREFIX(ABC).   At least 
that's what I got.  LISTDSD works as intended 

Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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Subject: RACF LISTDSD oddity

(I know, should go to RACF List.)

A user wants to list RACF profiles for all data sets beginning ABC. So I did 
this:

[tso] LISTDSD PREFIX(ABC)

I got a list of all profiles beginning ABC. When he did exactly the same thing, 
he got this:

   DATA SET userid.PREFIX NOT IN CATALOG

We both have RACF AUDIT authority and nothing else. Say what?

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Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

[Greg Shirey]

That's the message you get if you issue [tso] LISTDS PREFIX(ABC).   At least 
that's what I got.  LISTDSD works as intended 

Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
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Subject: RACF LISTDSD oddity

(I know, should go to RACF List.)

A user wants to list RACF profiles for all data sets beginning ABC. So I did 
this:

[tso] LISTDSD PREFIX(ABC)

I got a list of all profiles beginning ABC. When he did exactly the same thing, 
he got this:

   DATA SET userid.PREFIX NOT IN CATALOG

We both have RACF AUDIT authority and nothing else. Say what?

.
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Re: RACF LISTDSD oddity

[Steely.Mark]

Do a TSO PROFILE command from option 6. It appears one of you have profile 
prefix set and the other one doesn't have prefix set. 

Thanks

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Subject: RACF LISTDSD oddity

(I know, should go to RACF List.)

A user wants to list RACF profiles for all data sets beginning ABC. So I did 
this:

[tso] LISTDSD PREFIX(ABC)

I got a list of all profiles beginning ABC. When he did exactly the same thing, 
he got this:

   DATA SET userid.PREFIX NOT IN CATALOG

We both have RACF AUDIT authority and nothing else. Say what?

.
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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

[Feller, Paul]

Mike, thanks for the information.  I will review the documents.  An update on 
one of our issues. It looks like IBM has found some type of bug related to CSM 
storage management.  I'm being told an APAR is going to be created.

Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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If you were running close to the limit prior to upgrade to z/OS V2.2 without 
realising it you may just need to review some settings.



CSM with D NET,CSM and SYS1.PARMLIB(IVTPRM00) are a good place to start. 

You may need to look at this if you've added IP interfaces or turned on 
multiple OSA queues.

InbPerf: Dynamic

  WorkloadQueueing: Yes



Also D NET,BFRUSE



Try these Share presentations.



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RACF LISTDSD oddity

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

(I know, should go to RACF List.)

A user wants to list RACF profiles for all data sets beginning ABC. So I did 
this:

[tso] LISTDSD PREFIX(ABC)

I got a list of all profiles beginning ABC. When he did exactly the same thing, 
he got this:

   DATA SET userid.PREFIX NOT IN CATALOG

We both have RACF AUDIT authority and nothing else. Say what?

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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[George Kozakos]

> Mostly a curiosity and "long-term" question: where do you set the leap
> second offset? Can it be set without an IPL?
>
> I searched System Commands for "leap" and did not find anything.
>
> Charles

Via STP or Sysplex Timer

Regards,
George Kozakos
z/OS Software Service, Level 2 Supervisor


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Re: Fwd: Shark Tank: Is this why mainframes almost never get rebooted?

[Bill Woodger]

I think there's at best a great deal of "faulty memory" here. Something was 
nagging, so I just did a bit of research. COMMAND.COM in the late 80s was way 
smaller than 65K.

Remembering that a backup copy has been saved, what did the clever PC expert 
do? Deleted the backup, and copied COMMAND.COM from their own floppy. That's 
technical know-how.

In 1988 where I worked selected users had COMPAQs. Stand-alone (no network) and 
pre-installed. There was no "PC Support", the users were just left to get on 
with it. The guys who "installed" (brought the machine to a desk, plugged it 
all in, and turned the power on) had little clue beyond the power button and 
Ctrl-Alt-Delete. Perhaps it was different elsewhere?

Anyway, just another case of "anything anti-Mainframe must be true, regardless 
of anything inconvenient like facts and knowledge".

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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 10:39:20 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:

>Ah! I am starting to understand. Leap Second steering is accomplished with
>the PTFF instruction and is independent of CVTLSO. PTFF appears to slow down
>the physical clock.
>
>So ... steering and CVTLSO are essentially alternatives, right? CVTLSO
>should not include any leap seconds that were previously (or were about to
>be) "steered" -- is that right? And if a shop is using STP it is probably
>not modifying CVTLSO: CVTLSO is probably either zero, or at least stable. Am
>I getting this right?
> 
CVTLSO should be the difference between ETOD and UTC regardless of how
prior leap second adjustments were accomplished.

If a shop chooses to keep CVTLSO zero, STP will steer ETOD to match UTC
within a few hours after a leap second.

If a shop chooses to use CVTLSO non-zero, STP (perhaps by non-disclosed
techniques) will be signalled by the HMC at a leap second to make user
tasks non-dispatchable for a second during which the CPU will add one
second to CVTLSO.

In principle, a shop could elect to run ETOD at TAI, always ten seconds
ahead of IBM's recommendation and maintain CVTLSO at a corresponding
ten second higher value.  But why?

It's not clear why the convention is to add CVTLDTO to ETOD but subtract
CVTLSO.  Perhaps a designer had a phobia of negative numbers.

I believe either Peter Relson or John Eells has explained all this with more
detail and probabaly more accurately than I in some previous June or
December.

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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Charles Mills]

Ah! I am starting to understand. Leap Second steering is accomplished with
the PTFF instruction and is independent of CVTLSO. PTFF appears to slow down
the physical clock.

So ... steering and CVTLSO are essentially alternatives, right? CVTLSO
should not include any leap seconds that were previously (or were about to
be) "steered" -- is that right? And if a shop is using STP it is probably
not modifying CVTLSO: CVTLSO is probably either zero, or at least stable. Am
I getting this right?

Charles

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*Somebody* sets it ... who and how?

Charles

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I don't think that CVTLSO is used by STP.

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Re: Fwd: Shark Tank: Is this why mainframes almost never get rebooted?

[Joel C. Ewing]

On 10/10/2016 04:17 PM, Mark Post wrote:
 On 10/7/2016 at 08:09 AM, Tom Marchant
> <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: 
>> To paraphrase the article,
>> "Mainframe people are stupid and too snobbish to learn from us enlightened 
>> PC weenies."
> I took it more like "Mainframe people don't know as much as they think they 
> do and are too arrogant to ask for help."  :)
>
>
> Mark Post
>
>
Did no one else notice the original article described the one who
trashed his PC as a "mainframe programmer", not a Mainframe Systems
Programmer or Mainframe Technical Support?   By the time PCs came
around, a mere Mainframe Programmer should not have had the access to
trash things on the mainframe that would break the Operating System or
prevent an IPL, or even decide if an IPL was appropriate.  Might it not
be natural for such a person to assume, until finding out otherwise,
that surely this new PC would be a step forward, not a step backward,
and have similar protective safeguards built in?  The terse nature of
much early PC documentation didn't help a new user from the mainframe
world grok the fragile nature of the beast.

My take is that the article was probably written  by someone unfamiliar
with the mainframe philosophy of restricting access to critical system
files to those actually responsible for their maintenance -- to those
who have been trained to understand the risks and how to minimize them. 
Those without the knowledge were not allowed to play with dangerous
things in the mainframe world.
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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:13:16 -0400, Mark Jacobs  wrote:

>CVTLSO is all zero on our system, and we're using STP.
> 
According to that white paper, it depends on how the HMC is configured.
A number of shops choose to set CVTLSO=0 and ignore leap seconds
(the "stering" option) because a (decreasing?) number of ISVs, including
(once?) IBM are inconsistent with each other and even within their own
product sets on conventions to deal with CVTLSO.  If CVTLSO=0:

o It doesn't matter.

o Response-sensitive peripherals are not disturbed

http://members.iinet.net.au/~nathanael/ntpd/leap-second.html

Search for:
amazon google leap second

... even spreading the leap second over several hours cause perceptible
disruption.

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mark Jacobs - Listserv
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:21 AM
>>
>> STP will recognize that a leap second has occurred, and slowly steer zOS
>> time to the actual time. Here's a good writeup on the process.
>>
>> https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081

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Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

[Joseph Reichman]

Thanks 

For all your help have SVC 99 in my program

So just have to plug in the right text units

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills  wrote:
> 
> Have a good holiday.
> 
> By the way, if you want to combine two adventures, you can allocate to
> INTRDR dynamically with SVC 99. Look for a text unit called "output writer"
> or something like that.
> 
> Charles
> 
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> Subject: Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS
> 
> Still working on the problem
> Tom Bre... ( not sure of the correct spelling author Of Vista ) suggested I
> try to link to FTP
> 
> Link EP=FTP
> 
> Wrote a dummy program and it worked
> 
> However when I tried to test the code under TEST in my program bombed with a
> S0C4
> 
> I did have all three required files allocated OUTPUT SYSPRINT and INPUT
> 
> Maybe something with my program being a task under TEST
> 
> Teaches me to do something not documented
> 
> Anyway since I am Jewish I won't get to continue Till Thursday 
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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:43:46 -0700, Charles Mills  wrote:

>Okay, I read the paper. Good paper. Thanks. (I don't feel too bad -- the
>paper only came out a couple of months ago.)
> 
It's hardly automatic; according to the reference:
Lastly, through the Hardware Management Console, manually schedule STP to
insert the new leap seconds when they are announced and due to occur.

"schedule" implies a comfortable lead time.

>The paper is short on low level details. Does anyone know: in a "steering"
>situation, does z/OS basically "change CVTLSO a little, spin a little, go
>back to business as usual for a while -- repeat as necessary for seven
>hours"?
> 
Any clock will drift with respect to a standard.  STP compares the ETOD clock
with an external standard and loads a steering register that adjusts the ETOD
rate in a manner that the CPU never perceives a discontinuity.  At a leap second
STP observes that ETOD is a second fast and adjusts the ETOD rate to the
minimum.  It takes about a third of a day to fall into sync.

In the non-steering case, all (user?) processes are non-dispatchable for
one second.  This could pose a problem for certain (obsolete?) peripheral
devices.  Ed Gould commented on this several months ago.

Both Amazon and Google have conventions to spread the leap second
over several hours centered on midnight.  Unsurprisingly, they chose
different durations for the spread.

>-Original Message-
>From: Mark Jacobs - Listserv
>Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:21 AM
>
>STP will recognize that a leap second has occurred, and slowly steer zOS
>time to the actual time. Here's a good writeup on the process.
>
>https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081

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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Mark Jacobs - Listserv]

CVTLSO is all zero on our system, and we're using STP.

  EXT2: 00FDF670
 +0004  NUCLS F1FLGBT 00IOCID F0F3
 +0008  DEBVR 00FD93C2  CVAF. 00D5F000  MMVT. 00FD9688
 +0014  NCVP.   QIDA. 00OLTEP 
 +0024  AVVT. 8000  CCVT.   SKTA. 
 +0030  ICB..   FBYT1 00
 +0038  LDTO. CA5B  1700ATCVT 80C8B000
 +0048  BCLMT 0064  LSO..   

Mark Jacobs


Charles Mills 
October 11, 2016 at 12:00 PM
*Somebody* sets it ... who and how?

Charles

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I don't think that CVTLSO is used by STP.

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October 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM
I don't think that CVTLSO is used by STP.

Mark Jacobs


Charles Mills 
October 11, 2016 at 11:43 AM
Okay, I read the paper. Good paper. Thanks. (I don't feel too bad -- the
paper only came out a couple of months ago.)

The paper is short on low level details. Does anyone know: in a "steering"
situation, does z/OS basically "change CVTLSO a little, spin a little, go
back to business as usual for a while -- repeat as necessary for seven
hours"?

Charles

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STP will recognize that a leap second has occurred, and slowly steer zOS
time to the actual time. Here's a good writeup on the process.

https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081

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October 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM
So could in fact change without an IPL? That is really the core of my
curiosity.

Charles

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I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all happens
automagically.

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October 11, 2016 at 9:45 AM
I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all 
happens automagically.





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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Charles Mills]

*Somebody* sets it ... who and how?

Charles

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I don't think that CVTLSO is used by STP.

Mark Jacobs

> Charles Mills  October 11, 2016 at 11:43 AM 
> Okay, I read the paper. Good paper. Thanks. (I don't feel too bad -- 
> the paper only came out a couple of months ago.)
>
> The paper is short on low level details. Does anyone know: in a "steering"
> situation, does z/OS basically "change CVTLSO a little, spin a little, 
> go back to business as usual for a while -- repeat as necessary for 
> seven hours"?

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Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

[Charles Mills]

Have a good holiday.

By the way, if you want to combine two adventures, you can allocate to
INTRDR dynamically with SVC 99. Look for a text unit called "output writer"
or something like that.

Charles

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Still working on the problem
Tom Bre... ( not sure of the correct spelling author Of Vista ) suggested I
try to link to FTP

Link EP=FTP

Wrote a dummy program and it worked

However when I tried to test the code under TEST in my program bombed with a
S0C4

I did have all three required files allocated OUTPUT SYSPRINT and INPUT

Maybe something with my program being a task under TEST

Teaches me to do something not documented

Anyway since I am Jewish I won't get to continue Till Thursday 

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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Charles Mills]

Okay, I read the paper. Good paper. Thanks. (I don't feel too bad -- the
paper only came out a couple of months ago.)

The paper is short on low level details. Does anyone know: in a "steering"
situation, does z/OS basically "change CVTLSO a little, spin a little, go
back to business as usual for a while -- repeat as necessary for seven
hours"?

Charles

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Subject: Re: How set CVTLSO?

STP will recognize that a leap second has occurred, and slowly steer zOS
time to the actual time. Here's a good writeup on the process.

https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081

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Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

[Joseph Reichman]

Still working on the problem 
Tom Bre... ( not sure of the correct spelling author 
Of Vista ) suggested I try to link to FTP

Link EP=FTP

Wrote a dummy program and it worked

However when I tried to test the code under 
TEST in my program bombed with a S0C4

I did have all three required files allocated 
OUTPUT SYSPRINT and INPUT

Maybe something with my program being a task under TEST

Teaches me to do something not documented

Anyway since I am Jewish I won't get to continue 
Till Thursday 

The INTRDR should work thanks for your help 



> On Oct 11, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Charles Mills  wrote:
> 
> 1. I don't think I had heard that PC/3270 File Transfer was field-developed. 
> I would be interested in your source for that.
> 
> 2. I don't think the OP has any double-byte type issues. In my experience I 
> have only encountered APVUFILE at customers located in Asia.
> 
> Charles
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> Behalf Of Bruce Hewson
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 8:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS
> 
> this may be of interest:-
> 
> * Top of Data 
> ** 
> For 3270 session DBCS mode File Transfer, you need one or more of the 
>
> following host file transfer programs commonly referred to as an APVUFILE.
>
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Re: How set CVTLSO?

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I don't think that CVTLSO is used by STP.

Mark Jacobs


Charles Mills 
October 11, 2016 at 11:43 AM
Okay, I read the paper. Good paper. Thanks. (I don't feel too bad -- the
paper only came out a couple of months ago.)

The paper is short on low level details. Does anyone know: in a "steering"
situation, does z/OS basically "change CVTLSO a little, spin a little, go
back to business as usual for a while -- repeat as necessary for seven
hours"?

Charles

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Behalf Of Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:21 AM
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Subject: Re: How set CVTLSO?

STP will recognize that a leap second has occurred, and slowly steer zOS
time to the actual time. Here's a good writeup on the process.

https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081

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Charles Mills 
October 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM
So could in fact change without an IPL? That is really the core of my
curiosity.

Charles

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Subject: Re: How set CVTLSO?

I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all happens
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October 11, 2016 at 9:45 AM
I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all 
happens automagically.



Charles Mills 
October 11, 2016 at 9:42 AM
Mostly a curiosity and "long-term" question: where do you set the leap
second offset? Can it be set without an IPL?

I searched System Commands for "leap" and did not find anything.

Charles

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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Mark Jacobs - Listserv]

STP will recognize that a leap second has occurred, and slowly steer zOS 
time to the actual time. Here's a good writeup on the process.


https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP102081



Charles Mills 
October 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM
So could in fact change without an IPL? That is really the core of my
curiosity.

Charles

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I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all happens
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October 11, 2016 at 9:45 AM
I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all 
happens automagically.



Charles Mills 
October 11, 2016 at 9:42 AM
Mostly a curiosity and "long-term" question: where do you set the leap
second offset? Can it be set without an IPL?

I searched System Commands for "leap" and did not find anything.

Charles

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Re: How set CVTLSO?

[Charles Mills]

So could in fact change without an IPL? That is really the core of my
curiosity. 

Charles

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I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all happens
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[Mark Jacobs - Listserv]

I believe that if you're using STP to control system time, it all 
happens automagically.



Charles Mills 
October 11, 2016 at 9:42 AM
Mostly a curiosity and "long-term" question: where do you set the leap
second offset? Can it be set without an IPL?

I searched System Commands for "leap" and did not find anything.

Charles

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How set CVTLSO?

[Charles Mills]

Mostly a curiosity and "long-term" question: where do you set the leap
second offset? Can it be set without an IPL?

I searched System Commands for "leap" and did not find anything.

Charles 

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Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

[Charles Mills]

1. I don't think I had heard that PC/3270 File Transfer was field-developed. I 
would be interested in your source for that.

2. I don't think the OP has any double-byte type issues. In my experience I 
have only encountered APVUFILE at customers located in Asia.

Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bruce Hewson
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 8:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: intermittent errors using FTP program Interface EZAFTPKS

this may be of interest:-

* Top of Data 
** 
For 3270 session DBCS mode File Transfer, you need one or more of the   
 
following host file transfer programs commonly referred to as an APVUFILE.  
 

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Re: CEEDUMP possible following 'new' failure

[Denis]

Hi Peter,
 
yes I am aware of that, but we also have hang conditions, where the jobs are 
not out of memory and it might help in those situations.
Many of this situation occur when unix system services are in the game.
 
Thanks.
 
 
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Subject: Re: CEEDUMP possible following 'new' failure

The "callrtm command" will do no better than anything else that requires 
private storage of the address space to run. It is nothing more than a 
targeted cancel.

Out of private storage is out of private storage.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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The "callrtm command" will do no better than anything else that requires 
private storage of the address space to run. It is nothing more than a 
targeted cancel.

Out of private storage is out of private storage.

Peter Relson
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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

[Mike Wawiorko]

If you were running close to the limit prior to upgrade to z/OS V2.2 without 
realising it you may just need to review some settings.

CSM with D NET,CSM and SYS1.PARMLIB(IVTPRM00) are a good place to start. 
You may need to look at this if you've added IP interfaces or turned on 
multiple OSA queues.
InbPerf: Dynamic
  WorkloadQueueing: Yes

Also D NET,BFRUSE

Try these Share presentations.

http://share.confex.com/data/handout/share/127/Session_19594_handout_9634_0.pdf

http://share.confex.com/data/handout/share/127/Session_19617_handout_9760_0.pdf


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Re: Question about memory usage under z/OS 2.2

[Brian Westerman]

Unless your site is exceptionally large, it is more likely that you have some 
other sort of problem that is manifesting itself as memory related.  We 
maintain a lot of sites and we have our software running at hundreds of others 
and I have never heard anyone complain that they are experiencing memory 
related problems with TCP itself.

I suppose it's possible, but it doesn't seem likely that your site is the only 
one that has issues like this.

Brian

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