Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0
Thanks > On Apr 19, 2024, at 8:26 PM, Peter Relson wrote: > > The assertion of the subject is surely not correct. I do not choose to guess > in just what way. > > Perhaps more important, the ALESERV is likely creating a system integrity > violation in specifying access=public. > > Please take to heart the comment on ASSBSTKN: > As with other ASCB/ASSB fields, serialization may be required when > accessing something other than your address space's data. > > Peter Relson > z/OS Core Technology Design > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0
The assertion of the subject is surely not correct. I do not choose to guess in just what way. Perhaps more important, the ALESERV is likely creating a system integrity violation in specifying access=public. Please take to heart the comment on ASSBSTKN: As with other ASCB/ASSB fields, serialization may be required when accessing something other than your address space's data. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0
Ok thanks I’ll take a different approach > On Apr 19, 2024, at 4:50 AM, Rob Scott > <0618c90e6fdf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Joseph, > > Are you 100% sure that SDWAPRIM is not actually the same as the current PASN ? > > This might explain R15=0 and the ALET being zero (although I must admit I > have never tried ALESERV ADD for the STOKEN of my own PASN before). > > I still believe you need to revisit your design. Trying to be “too clever” in > general purpose recovery routines is not a good idea in my opinion. > > Rob > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Rob Scott > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 8:05 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0 > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > > > Joseph, > > If I understand your last two posts correctly, you are attempting to add an > ASID (that you do not control) using ALESERV CHKEAX=NO to the DU-AL of a unit > of work that is abending (possibly for a large variety of reasons outside of > your control) in order to add a small amount of diagnostic information ? > > This approach seems riddled with system stability risks and I would advise > against it. > > Rob Scott > Rocket Software > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> On Behalf Of > Joseph Reichman > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 12:22 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > Subject: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0 > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > > > > > Hi > > Just tried to get access list token for the GRS Address space ASID 7 > > Got R15 = 0 and alet = 0, as well this was both on my zpdt system and on the > CBT real iron I believe z15 system > > As well was running under TESTAUTH > > Here is the code > > * JOER > LOCASCB ASID=SDWAPRIM LOC prim to SRB JOER > * JOER > L R1,ASCBASSB-ASCB(R1) JOER > MVC STOKEN,ASSBSTKN-ASSB(R1) Get Stokrn JOER > * JOER > ALESERV ADD, Put it on DU-AL JOERX > ACCESS=PUBLIC, JOERX > CHKEAX=NO, JOERX > AL=WORKUNIT,STOKEN=STOKEN,ALET=ALET JOER > * JOER > * JOER > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu<mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu> with the message: > INFO IBM-MAIN > > > Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ > Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 > Contact Customer Support: > https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport<https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport> > Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - > http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences<http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences> > Privacy Policy - > http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy<http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy> > > > This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information > of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket > Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu<mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu> with > the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ > Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 > Contact Customer Support: > https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport > Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - > http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences > Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy > > > This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information > of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket > Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0
Joseph, Are you 100% sure that SDWAPRIM is not actually the same as the current PASN ? This might explain R15=0 and the ALET being zero (although I must admit I have never tried ALESERV ADD for the STOKEN of my own PASN before). I still believe you need to revisit your design. Trying to be “too clever” in general purpose recovery routines is not a good idea in my opinion. Rob From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 8:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0 EXTERNAL EMAIL Joseph, If I understand your last two posts correctly, you are attempting to add an ASID (that you do not control) using ALESERV CHKEAX=NO to the DU-AL of a unit of work that is abending (possibly for a large variety of reasons outside of your control) in order to add a small amount of diagnostic information ? This approach seems riddled with system stability risks and I would advise against it. Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 12:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU<mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0 EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Just tried to get access list token for the GRS Address space ASID 7 Got R15 = 0 and alet = 0, as well this was both on my zpdt system and on the CBT real iron I believe z15 system As well was running under TESTAUTH Here is the code * JOER LOCASCB ASID=SDWAPRIM LOC prim to SRB JOER * JOER L R1,ASCBASSB-ASCB(R1) JOER MVC STOKEN,ASSBSTKN-ASSB(R1) Get Stokrn JOER * JOER ALESERV ADD, Put it on DU-AL JOERX ACCESS=PUBLIC, JOERX CHKEAX=NO, JOERX AL=WORKUNIT,STOKEN=STOKEN,ALET=ALET JOER * JOER * JOER -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu<mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu> with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport<https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport> Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences<http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences> Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy<http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy> This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu<mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu> with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0
Joseph, If I understand your last two posts correctly, you are attempting to add an ASID (that you do not control) using ALESERV CHKEAX=NO to the DU-AL of a unit of work that is abending (possibly for a large variety of reasons outside of your control) in order to add a small amount of diagnostic information ? This approach seems riddled with system stability risks and I would advise against it. Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Friday, April 19, 2024 12:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0 EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Just tried to get access list token for the GRS Address space ASID 7 Got R15 = 0 and alet = 0, as well this was both on my zpdt system and on the CBT real iron I believe z15 system As well was running under TESTAUTH Here is the code * JOER LOCASCB ASID=SDWAPRIMLOC prim to SRB JOER * JOER L R1,ASCBASSB-ASCB(R1)JOER MVC STOKEN,ASSBSTKN-ASSB(R1) Get StokrnJOER * JOER ALESERV ADD,Put it on DU-AL JOERX ACCESS=PUBLIC, JOERX CHKEAX=NO, JOERX AL=WORKUNIT,STOKEN=STOKEN,ALET=ALET JOER * JOER * JOER -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer Support: https://my.rocketsoftware.com/RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/manage-your-email-preferences Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
ALESERV rc 15 = 0 and alet = 0
Hi Just tried to get access list token for the GRS Address space ASID 7 Got R15 = 0 and alet = 0, as well this was both on my zpdt system and on the CBT real iron I believe z15 system As well was running under TESTAUTH Here is the code * JOER LOCASCB ASID=SDWAPRIMLOC prim to SRB JOER * JOER L R1,ASCBASSB-ASCB(R1)JOER MVC STOKEN,ASSBSTKN-ASSB(R1) Get StokrnJOER * JOER ALESERV ADD,Put it on DU-AL JOERX ACCESS=PUBLIC, JOERX CHKEAX=NO, JOERX AL=WORKUNIT,STOKEN=STOKEN,ALET=ALET JOER * JOER * JOER -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
