Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-22 Thread Steve Smith
How about an RFE to stop doing this:

07:00:04.58 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
783
 783 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS019(SMS) AT 07:00:04 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:04.79 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS019, 784
 784 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 784 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:04
07:00:04.79 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
785
 785 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS018(SMS) AT 07:00:04 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:04.81 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS020, 786
 786 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 786 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:04
07:00:04.82 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
787
 787 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS017(SMS) AT 07:00:04 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:04.97 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS018, 788
 788 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 788 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:04
07:00:04.98 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
789
 789 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS016(SMS) AT 07:00:04 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:05.00 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS017, 790
 790 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 790 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:04
07:00:05.01 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
791
 791 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS015(SMS) AT 07:00:05 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:05.08 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS016, 792
 792 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 792 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:05
07:00:05.09 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
793
 793 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS014(SMS) AT 07:00:05 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:05.13 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS015, 794
 794 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 794 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:05
07:00:05.14 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
795
 795 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS013(SMS) AT 07:00:05 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:05.22 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS014, 796
 796 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 796 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:05
07:00:05.23 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
797
 797 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS012(SMS) AT 07:00:05 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:05.27 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS013, 798
 798 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 798 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:05
07:00:05.28 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
799
 799 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS011(SMS) AT 07:00:05 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:05.35 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS012, 800
 800 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 800 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:05
07:00:05.35 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
801
 801 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS010(SMS) AT 07:00:05 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:05.45 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS011, 802
 802 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 802 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:05
07:00:05.46 S0002089 0090  ARC0522I SPACE MANAGEMENT STARTING ON VOLUME
803
 803 0090  ARC0522I (CONT.) SMS009(SMS) AT 07:00:05 ON
2018/06/22, SYSTEM DVLP
07:00:05.53 S0002089 0090  ARC0523I SPACE MANAGEMENT ENDED ON VOLUME
SMS010, 804
 804 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.)  DATA SET(S)
MIGRATED/DELETED, 00
 804 0090  ARC0523I (CONT.) TRACK(S) FREED, MINAGE 0,
TIME 07:00:05
07:00:05.54

Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-22 Thread Max Smith
Please open an RFE for this, we responded to another RFE to enhance the 
ARC0103I message to be more descriptive in the next release.  We will look at 
doing the same for the ARC0104I message.

Thanks,
Max Smith
DFSMS Development

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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-22 Thread jdoll.a0...@gmail.com IBM-Main

I set up the PDO logs to swap just like the SMF logs,

When HSM would swap from X to Y, Automation would kick off a IEBGENER to 
copy it to a "permanent " dataset with the System & Time stamps as dataset 
name and HSM/SMS Management Class to keep them around for 45 days with No 
backup and 0 days on primary, and go directly to ML2 "Tape".


Jim



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I have both LOG and PDA files. Never needed them, but the recomenadtion was 
to have them active for IBM if needed.


DFHSM.LOGX
DFHSM.LOGY

DFHSM.PDOX
DFHSM.PDOY



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On 6/21/2018 2:17 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> Looking some more and remembering. Do you have the HSM PDA
(Problem Determination AID) active?  SETSYS PDS() and a couple datasets.
> I have a vague memory that this data can also be found using IPCS 
> against

the active region. Or something.

Yes. I posted some of that data in response to Carmen Vitullo's query.
No help whatsoever...

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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-22 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
My reason for suggesting an APAR is that intrinsic inability to track down the 
source of an error message strikes me as a design failure. Furthermore, an APAR 
tied to a defect may get better (= quicker) resolution than an enhancement RFE. 

In Ed's case, a syntax typo in the initialization options might be difficult 
capture succinctly. Nonetheless there are products that flag errors by 'line 
number' without trying to diagnose the error in depth. ISPF HILITE pointed to 
the problem, which was sufficient to fix it. HSM should be able to provide 
comparable guidance. Other products do. 

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Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

>I'd say that this is such an egregious oversight that it should be APARable 
>even after all this time. There's no statute of limitations on bad design. 

Or ask for a thing to do Syntax Checking of ARCCMDxx just like the one for 
BPXPRMxx member (SETOMVS SYNTAXCHECK=(??)  ).

Groete / Greetings
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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

>I'd say that this is such an egregious oversight that it should be APARable 
>even after all this time. There's no statute of limitations on bad design. 

Or ask for a thing to do Syntax Checking of ARCCMDxx just like the one for 
BPXPRMxx member (SETOMVS SYNTAXCHECK=(??)  ).

Groete / Greetings
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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
I have both LOG and PDA files. Never needed them, but the recomenadtion was to 
have them active for IBM if needed.

DFHSM.LOGX
DFHSM.LOGY

DFHSM.PDOX
DFHSM.PDOY


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:21 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND
> 
> On 6/21/2018 2:17 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> > Looking some more and remembering. Do you have the HSM PDA
> (Problem Determination AID) active?  SETSYS PDS() and a couple datasets.
> > I have a vague memory that this data can also be found using IPCS against
> the active region. Or something.
> 
> Yes. I posted some of that data in response to Carmen Vitullo's query.
> No help whatsoever...
> 
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> VATOToJANlm1EWo7JHmZyFP9PKP4GGqo_6Zp6bWs&s=z41wqfPdr4WHaTk
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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 6/21/2018 2:17 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

Looking some more and remembering. Do you have the HSM PDA (Problem 
Determination AID) active?  SETSYS PDS() and a couple datasets.
I have a vague memory that this data can also be found using IPCS against the 
active region. Or something.


Yes. I posted some of that data in response to Carmen Vitullo's query. 
No help whatsoever...


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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
Looking some more and remembering. Do you have the HSM PDA (Problem 
Determination AID) active?  SETSYS PDS() and a couple datasets.
I have a vague memory that this data can also be found using IPCS against the 
active region. Or something.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:02 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND
> 
> I'd say that this is such an egregious oversight that it should be APARable
> even after all this time. There's no statute of limitations on bad design.
> 
> .
> .
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> Southern California Edison Company
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> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:51 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe
> > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:41 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND
> >
> > On 6/21/2018 11:59 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> > > I expected as much. Another possibility is to insert some LOG
> > > commands into your ARCCMD00 perhaps even as frequently as to echo
> > > each SETSYS
> >
> > I thought we could try something like that, but it seems that some (or
> > maybe
> > all?) of the commands are being executed asynchronously. Plus, I'm not
> > sure what kind of "log" commands are available in the ARCCMDxx member.
> > Do you know?
> 
> I've not found a command I couldn't include in ARCCMDxx, but I admit I've
> not tried many. I didn't know about the aysnc possibility, but I guess I'm not
> surprised DFHSM has been "mulit threaded"  from the start.
> 
> I am sorry, I can't remember the last time I had an error to find here. Once
> set, this is not a frequently changing member :)
> 
> My last thought now is a tedious hand comparison against the results of a
> QUERY SETSYS
> 
> >
> > I'm truly astonished that this problem exists in the first place and
> > -- based on responses I've seen so far -- has been around from the
> > beginning. Should not the error message include the first 'n'
> > characters of command text and/or line number in the input "deck"? The
> > whole thing is crazy! No one has complained to IBM about this serious
> shortcoming before now?!
> >
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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 6/21/2018 11:00 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
I recently noticed we're receiving the following (maybe three times) 
on the MVS log during HSM startup:


ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND


Found them! How? Via manual inspection! (HSM facilities were no help AT 
ALL...)


I used ISPF highlighting with "HILITE PLI LOGIC PAREN" and discovered a 
colorized paren mismatch situation.


Turns out the last (continued) part of an ADDVOL statement was repeated 
unnecessarily and then cloned to two other nearly-identical non-SMS 
volume definitions.


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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I'd say that this is such an egregious oversight that it should be APARable 
even after all this time. There's no statute of limitations on bad design. 

.
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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND
> 
> On 6/21/2018 11:59 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> > I expected as much. Another possibility is to insert some LOG 
> > commands into your ARCCMD00 perhaps even as frequently as to echo 
> > each SETSYS
> 
> I thought we could try something like that, but it seems that some (or 
> maybe
> all?) of the commands are being executed asynchronously. Plus, I'm not 
> sure what kind of "log" commands are available in the ARCCMDxx member. 
> Do you know?

I've not found a command I couldn't include in ARCCMDxx, but I admit I've not 
tried many. I didn't know about the aysnc possibility, but I guess I'm not 
surprised DFHSM has been "mulit threaded"  from the start.

I am sorry, I can't remember the last time I had an error to find here. Once 
set, this is not a frequently changing member :)

My last thought now is a tedious hand comparison against the results of a QUERY 
SETSYS

> 
> I'm truly astonished that this problem exists in the first place and 
> -- based on responses I've seen so far -- has been around from the 
> beginning. Should not the error message include the first 'n' 
> characters of command text and/or line number in the input "deck"? The 
> whole thing is crazy! No one has complained to IBM about this serious 
> shortcoming before now?!
> 
> --
> Phoenix Software International
> Edward E. Jaffe
> 831 Parkview Drive North
> El Segundo, CA 90245

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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Gibney, Dave


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND
> 
> On 6/21/2018 11:59 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> > I expected as much. Another possibility is to insert some LOG commands
> > into your ARCCMD00 perhaps even as frequently as to echo each SETSYS
> 
> I thought we could try something like that, but it seems that some (or maybe
> all?) of the commands are being executed asynchronously. Plus, I'm not sure
> what kind of "log" commands are available in the ARCCMDxx member. Do
> you know?

I've not found a command I couldn't include in ARCCMDxx, but I admit I've not 
tried many. I didn't know about the aysnc possibility, but I guess I'm not 
surprised DFHSM has been "mulit threaded"  from the start.

I am sorry, I can't remember the last time I had an error to find here. Once 
set, this is not a frequently changing member :)

My last thought now is a tedious hand comparison against the results of a QUERY 
SETSYS

> 
> I'm truly astonished that this problem exists in the first place and -- based 
> on
> responses I've seen so far -- has been around from the beginning. Should not
> the error message include the first 'n' characters of command text and/or
> line number in the input "deck"? The whole thing is crazy! No one has
> complained to IBM about this serious shortcoming before now?!
> 
> --
> Phoenix Software International
> Edward E. Jaffe
> 831 Parkview Drive North
> El Segundo, CA 90245
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-
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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 6/21/2018 12:14 PM, John McKown wrote:


​How about just issuing each HSM command in the member as an operator
command, perhaps via (E)JES?​


That's a thought, but what a *major* PITA. Most of our commands are 
split across multiple lines with /* xxx */ comments interspersed. It 
will be very time consuming to edit them all down to a single line each. 
However, once that's done, I agree we should be able to issue them via 
TSO HSEND or MODIFY operator command.


As I said in my response to Dave Gibney, I'm truly astonished this 
problem exists in the first place and has been around for so long!



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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 6/21/2018 11:59 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

I expected as much. Another possibility is to insert some LOG commands into 
your ARCCMD00 perhaps even as frequently as to echo each SETSYS


I thought we could try something like that, but it seems that some (or 
maybe all?) of the commands are being executed asynchronously. Plus, I'm 
not sure what kind of "log" commands are available in the ARCCMDxx 
member. Do you know?


I'm truly astonished that this problem exists in the first place and -- 
based on responses I've seen so far -- has been around from the 
beginning. Should not the error message include the first 'n' characters 
of command text and/or line number in the input "deck"? The whole thing 
is crazy! No one has complained to IBM about this serious shortcoming 
before now?!


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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:53 PM Ed Jaffe 
wrote:

> On 6/21/2018 11:35 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> > What is your SETSYS ACTLOGMSGLVL?
>
> That parameter is not relevant here. I did have ACTLOGMSGLVL(REDUCED)
> so, just to prove the point, I changed it to ACTLOGMSGLVL(FULL) and
> recycled HSM. No difference...
>

​How about just issuing each HSM command in the member as an operator
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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
I expected as much. Another possibility is to insert some LOG commands into 
your ARCCMD00 perhaps even as frequently as to echo each SETSYS

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> On 6/21/2018 11:35 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> > What is your SETSYS ACTLOGMSGLVL?
> 
> That parameter is not relevant here. I did have ACTLOGMSGLVL(REDUCED)
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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 6/21/2018 11:35 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

What is your SETSYS ACTLOGMSGLVL?


That parameter is not relevant here. I did have ACTLOGMSGLVL(REDUCED) 
so, just to prove the point, I changed it to ACTLOGMSGLVL(FULL) and 
recycled HSM. No difference...


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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread retired mainframer
Back when I had this issue, my only choice was to count responses and then 
count commands.  Some of the commands had relatively unique responses which 
assisted in synching my counts.  Based on your question, it appears that newer 
versions of HSM don't provide any additional information.

If you have the time and a sandbox LPAR, you could start HSM with only the 
first 10 commands and look for the error.  Then add 10 more in each iteration.  
This will reduce the span of commands to be checked.

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> I recently noticed we're receiving the following (maybe three times) on
> the MVS log during HSM startup:
> 
> ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
What is your SETSYS ACTLOGMSGLVL?

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> I recently noticed we're receiving the following (maybe three times) on the
> MVS log during HSM startup:
> 
> ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND
> 
> How can we tell which commands are generating this? I can find no HSM-
> produced log of commands and responses. All I see are the responses.
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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Carmen Vitullo
okay, I thought so, I was hoping it would provide more info 



Carmen Vitullo 

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Subject: Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND 

On 6/21/2018 11:15 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: 
> Been a while for me supporting / having HSM 
> IIRC isn't there a LOG1 + LOG2 that goes to a dataset? 

Yes. Such data sets exist. Browsing under ISPF you see only the comman 
responses, not the commands themselves. For example, I see "SETSYS 
COMMAND COMPLETED" but not the actual SETSYS command that was issued: 

.ÃM:_.(Þå3STARTUP.é..M:_.+.É3**OPER**.ARC0001I DFSMS 
..M:_.Ý@Û3.DSR..^ .8 
.þ.ã..M:_.]1.3.u..**OPER**.ARC1700I DFSMSHSM COMMANDS ARE RA 
.S.\..M:_.AÓM3...M. .à**IPL***.. 
.S.\..M:_.BÁa3...M. .à**IPL***.. 
.m.\..M:_.B..3...M. .à**IPL***.. 
...\..M:_.D..3...M. .à**IPL***.. 
.:M:_.Eý<3. .à**IPL***.. 
.0M:_.Hm.3. .à**IPL***.. 
.ûM:_.­ÃX3. .à**IPL***.. 
..M:_.ôa.3. .à**IPL***.. 
.­.\..M:_.ö.43...M. .à**IPL***.. 
.=M:_.K;ë3.À..**OPER**.ARC0100I SETSYS COMMAND COMPLETED 
.R.\..M:_.NëÔ3...M. .à**IPL***.. 
.cM:_.O.Ð3. .à**IPL***.. 
...\..M:_.P..3...M. .à**IPL***.. 

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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 6/21/2018 11:15 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:

Been a while for me supporting / having HSM
IIRC isn't there a LOG1 + LOG2 that goes to a dataset?


Yes. Such data sets exist. Browsing under ISPF you see only the comman 
responses, not the commands themselves. For example, I see "SETSYS 
COMMAND COMPLETED" but not the actual SETSYS command that was issued:


.ÃM:_.(Þå3STARTUP.é..M:_.+.É3**OPER**.ARC0001I DFSMS
..M:_.Ý@Û3.DSR..^ .8
.þ.ã..M:_.]1.3.u..**OPER**.ARC1700I DFSMSHSM COMMANDS ARE RA
.S.\..M:_.AÓM3...M. .à**IPL***..
.S.\..M:_.BÁa3...M. .à**IPL***..
.m.\..M:_.B..3...M. .à**IPL***..
...\..M:_.D..3...M. .à**IPL***..
.:M:_.Eý<3. .à**IPL***..
.0M:_.Hm.3. .à**IPL***..
.ûM:_.­ÃX3. .à**IPL***..
..M:_.ôa.3. .à**IPL***..
.­.\..M:_.ö.43...M. .à**IPL***..
.=M:_.K;ë3.À..**OPER**.ARC0100I SETSYS COMMAND COMPLETED
.R.\..M:_.NëÔ3...M. .à**IPL***..
.cM:_.O.Ð3. .à**IPL***..
...\..M:_.P..3...M. .à**IPL***..

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Re: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Been a while for me supporting / having HSM 
IIRC isn't there a LOG1 + LOG2 that goes to a dataset? 


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Subject: ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND 

I recently noticed we're receiving the following (maybe three times) on 
the MVS log during HSM startup: 

ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND 

How can we tell which commands are generating this? I can find no 
HSM-produced log of commands and responses. All I see are the responses. 

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ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

2018-06-21 Thread Ed Jaffe
I recently noticed we're receiving the following (maybe three times) on 
the MVS log during HSM startup:


ARC0104I INVALID INITIALIZATION COMMAND

How can we tell which commands are generating this? I can find no 
HSM-produced log of commands and responses. All I see are the responses.


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