Re: Address location

2015-06-25 Thread Peter Relson
Peter just to re-iterate R2 has the address of 
the FRR param before I issue IEAMSCHD

Joe, no.

Please read the book. It does not talk about register 2 containing 
anything before issuing IEAMSCHD.

FWIW, I don't know what your question has to do with my post about 
Address location.

Peter Relson
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Re: Address location

2015-06-24 Thread Peter Relson
The VSMLOC macro might issue abend code X'C78'.

The book is correct: VSMLOC with LINKAGE=SYSTEM can issue C78 (on 
incorrect input).

The VSMLOC processing module doesn't issue any abends.

Peter Relson
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Re: Address location

2015-06-24 Thread michelbutz
I'm doing linkage=branch and holding the local lock

Peter just to re-iterate R2 has the address of 
the FRR param before I issue IEAMSCHD 

Correct ?

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On Jun 24, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 The VSMLOC macro might issue abend code X'C78'.
 
 The book is correct: VSMLOC with LINKAGE=SYSTEM can issue C78 (on 
 incorrect input).
 
 The VSMLOC processing module doesn't issue any abends.
 
 Peter Relson
 z/OS Core Technology Design
 
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Re: Address location

2015-06-22 Thread michelbutz
I have taken that

Approach I am issuing a VSMLOC XXX where XXX is PVT or LSQA or CSA or SQA and 
if 
I get what is a C78 ABEND which is what I was told if I tried to look at say 
LSQA with PVT param
I'll retry the VSMLOC from the FRR until I have the right parm thanks



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 On Jun 22, 2015, at 2:25 PM, David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com wrote:
 
 Joe,
 
 The GDA can be used to distinguish SQA form CSA from PVT, but it won't tell 
 you squat about the LSQA. And the LDA won't either. That's because the LSQA 
 is not a discrete subarea of PVT. It is a specific subpool which can meander 
 all over upper private.
 
 yes, the LDA will give you LSQA anchors, but Binyamin (and others) is right. 
 Your best bet is to use VSMLOC.
 
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 At 6/14/2015 09:46 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
 
 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:32:26 -0400, michelbutz wrote:
 
 Given address how I can I tell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA
 
 GDA.
 
 Shane ...
 
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Re: Address location

2015-06-22 Thread Jim Mulder
 From: michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net
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 Date: 06/22/2015 02:48 PM
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 I have taken that
 
 Approach I am issuing a VSMLOC XXX where XXX is PVT or LSQA or CSA 
 or SQA and if 
 I get what is a C78 ABEND which is what I was told if I tried to 
 look at say LSQA with PVT param
 I'll retry the VSMLOC from the FRR until I have the right parm thanks

  VSMLOC does not issue any ABENDs.

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: Address location

2015-06-22 Thread michelbutz
Truth is I haven't gotten to that point 
I am issuing the VSMLOC from a different 
Address space and towards that end I have wrapped it in a SRB 
I am still trying to get schedule the SRB using IEAMSCHD 
Right now it goes straight to the FRR before 
I get to the 1st instruction of the SRB 
I am hoping at the very least it would give me
Some sort of return code allowing me to retry 
The VSMLOC until I get the right storage area
PVT,SQA,LSQA or CSA

Thanks

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 From: michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: 06/22/2015 02:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Address location
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 I have taken that
 
 Approach I am issuing a VSMLOC XXX where XXX is PVT or LSQA or CSA 
 or SQA and if 
 I get what is a C78 ABEND which is what I was told if I tried to 
 look at say LSQA with PVT param
 I'll retry the VSMLOC from the FRR until I have the right parm thanks
 
  VSMLOC does not issue any ABENDs.
 
 Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY
 
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Re: Address location

2015-06-22 Thread David Cole

Joe,

The GDA can be used to distinguish SQA form CSA from PVT, but it 
won't tell you squat about the LSQA. And the LDA won't either. That's 
because the LSQA is not a discrete subarea of PVT. It is a specific 
subpool which can meander all over upper private.


yes, the LDA will give you LSQA anchors, but Binyamin (and others) is 
right. Your best bet is to use VSMLOC.


Dave Cole
ColeSoft Marketing
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Charlottesville, VA 22902
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At 6/14/2015 09:46 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote:


On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:32:26 -0400, michelbutz wrote:

Given address how I can I tell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA

GDA.

Shane ...

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Re: Address location

2015-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jim Mulder wrote:

  VSMLOC does not issue any ABENDs.

Thanks for your post, I don't understand what you said, because it is written in

MVS Programming: Authorized Assembler Services Reference, Volume 4 (SET-WTO)

this ...

The VSMLOC macro might issue abend code X'C78'.

Did I miss something?

Thanks in advance.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Address location

2015-06-14 Thread michelbutz
Were you I get that info is that in the LDA ?

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 On Jun 14, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com wrote:
 
 At 04:51 -0500 on 06/14/2015, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote about Re: Address 
 location:
 
 michelbutz wrote:
 
 CSMLOC only takes one of those as the first parameters
 I would have to know whether it is SQA LSQA PVT. Or CSA before
 
 Binyamin Dissen [he really does know his stuff!] gave you a good solution 
 about VSMLOC, despite the fact that you gave very little information.
 
 I and perhaps others also want to know these, before giving a possible 
 better answer:
 
 1. What are you trying to solve?
 2. Does it matter that the address is in your same address space or in other 
 address space?
 3. Do you want check it while being AC(1) or not?
 4. At what z/OS level are you?
 
 Given address how I can Itell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA
 
 Based on what I read on VSMLOC, you can repeatedly use VSMLOC with one of 
 these parms and examine the return codes. Repeat with other parm and check 
 until you get the desired return code. Just be ready to handle a possible 
 C78 abend.
 
 Unless someone can come with a better solution.
 
 Have a subroutine that you call which returns the SQA LSQA PVT. and CSA 
 boundaries. It would do the needed calls and then return the table of 
 addresses.
 
 
 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht
 
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Re: Address location

2015-06-14 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 04:51 -0500 on 06/14/2015, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote about Re: 
Address location:



michelbutz wrote:


CSMLOC only takes one of those as the first parameters

 I would have to know whether it is SQA LSQA PVT. Or CSA before

Binyamin Dissen [he really does know his stuff!] gave you a good 
solution about VSMLOC, despite the fact that you gave very little 
information.


I and perhaps others also want to know these, before giving a 
possible better answer:


1. What are you trying to solve?
2. Does it matter that the address is in your same address space or 
in other address space?

3. Do you want check it while being AC(1) or not?
4. At what z/OS level are you?


Given address how I can Itell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA


Based on what I read on VSMLOC, you can repeatedly use VSMLOC with 
one of these parms and examine the return codes. Repeat with other 
parm and check until you get the desired return code. Just be ready 
to handle a possible C78 abend.


Unless someone can come with a better solution.


Have a subroutine that you call which returns the SQA LSQA PVT. and 
CSA boundaries. It would do the needed calls and then return the 
table of addresses.




Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht


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Re: Address location

2015-06-14 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:32:26 -0400, michelbutz wrote:

Given address how I can I tell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA

GDA.

Shane ...

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Re: Address location

2015-06-14 Thread michelbutz
Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:32:26 -0400, michelbutz wrote:
 
 Given address how I can I tell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA
 
 GDA.
 
 Shane ...
 
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Re: Address location

2015-06-14 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
michelbutz wrote:

CSMLOC only takes one of those as the first parameters 
I would have to know whether it is SQA LSQA PVT. Or CSA before 

Binyamin Dissen [he really does know his stuff!] gave you a good solution about 
VSMLOC, despite the fact that you gave very little information.

I and perhaps others also want to know these, before giving a possible better 
answer:

1. What are you trying to solve?
2. Does it matter that the address is in your same address space or in other 
address space?
3. Do you want check it while being AC(1) or not?
4. At what z/OS level are you?

Given address how I can Itell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA

Based on what I read on VSMLOC, you can repeatedly use VSMLOC with one of these 
parms and examine the return codes. Repeat with other parm and check until you 
get the desired return code. Just be ready to handle a possible C78 abend.

Unless someone can come with a better solution.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Address location

2015-06-14 Thread michelbutz
It's in a other address space to I'm using a SRB
I am at 2.1
I guess I have to set up a FRR and check for a C78 ABEND
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:51 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
 elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
 
 michelbutz wrote:
 
 CSMLOC only takes one of those as the first parameters 
 I would have to know whether it is SQA LSQA PVT. Or CSA before 
 
 Binyamin Dissen [he really does know his stuff!] gave you a good solution 
 about VSMLOC, despite the fact that you gave very little information.
 
 I and perhaps others also want to know these, before giving a possible better 
 answer:
 
 1. What are you trying to solve?
 2. Does it matter that the address is in your same address space or in other 
 address space?
 3. Do you want check it while being AC(1) or not?
 4. At what z/OS level are you?
 
 Given address how I can Itell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA
 
 Based on what I read on VSMLOC, you can repeatedly use VSMLOC with one of 
 these parms and examine the return codes. Repeat with other parm and check 
 until you get the desired return code. Just be ready to handle a possible C78 
 abend.
 
 Unless someone can come with a better solution.
 
 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht
 
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Re: Address location

2015-06-14 Thread michelbutz
CSMLOC only takes one of those as the first parameters 

I would have to know whether it is SQA LSQA PVT. Or CSA before 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2015, at 2:05 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com 
 wrote:
 
 VSMLOC
 
 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:32:26 -0400 michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 :Given address how I can I tell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA
 
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Re: Address location

2015-06-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
VSMLOC

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:32:26 -0400 michelbutz michealb...@comcast.net wrote:

:Given address how I can I tell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA

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Re: Address location/GDA is for common

2015-06-14 Thread michelbutz
GDA is for common storage I think 

I need the LDA for private

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 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 01:32:26 -0400, michelbutz wrote:
 
 Given address how I can I tell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA
 
 GDA.
 
 Shane ...
 
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Address location

2015-06-13 Thread michelbutz
Given address how I can I tell whether this is SQA LSQA PVT, or CSA

Thanks 

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