Re: Do they still make greenbar paper these days?

2022-06-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'm old enough to know that greenbar paper is 120 columns. There's also 144, 
still on impact printers. The compressed dump format for the 3800 squeezes in 
considerably more.

Except when there is a legal requirement for carbon paper or NCR copies, 
doesn't everybody use plain paper with a forms overlay these days?


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I had occasion a few minutes ago to note to myself, in a non-computer
context, that twice 66 is 132.  "How" (an imaginary grandchild asked in my
head) "did you know that so fast?"  The answer, of course, is that if a
computer programmer is old enough he knows 132 characters is the usual width
of the old greenbar paper, and 66 is half of that.

But it led me to wonder.  Punch cards are now an expensive antique.  Do they
even make greenbar paper any more?  Does anyone know?  Just curious.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Do they still make greenbar paper these days?

2022-06-08 Thread Billy Ashton
I still remember my first computer-oriented job as a burster and 
decollator operator. My biggest nemesis was the 5-part carbon form with 
parts 4&5 edge glued (for an insurance company, of course).


Ahh, those halcyon days...

Thank you and best regards,
Billy Ashton

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Now you need a de-collator.

On 6/8/2022 1:09 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

GIYF or duck duck go or whatever your search engine of choice.  Not only is 
greenbar paper still available (Staples, anyone?) but you can even still get it 
in carbon paper (shudder).



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Re: [EXTERNAL] Do they still make greenbar paper these days?

2022-06-08 Thread Clifford McNeill

Now you need a de-collator.

On 6/8/2022 1:09 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

GIYF or duck duck go or whatever your search engine of choice.  Not only is 
greenbar paper still available (Staples, anyone?) but you can even still get it 
in carbon paper (shudder).



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Re: [EXTERNAL] Do they still make greenbar paper these days?

2022-06-08 Thread Pommier, Rex
GIYF or duck duck go or whatever your search engine of choice.  Not only is 
greenbar paper still available (Staples, anyone?) but you can even still get it 
in carbon paper (shudder).  

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Do they still make greenbar paper these days?

I had occasion a few minutes ago to note to myself, in a non-computer context, 
that twice 66 is 132.  "How" (an imaginary grandchild asked in my
head) "did you know that so fast?"  The answer, of course, is that if a 
computer programmer is old enough he knows 132 characters is the usual width of 
the old greenbar paper, and 66 is half of that.

But it led me to wonder.  Punch cards are now an expensive antique.  Do they 
even make greenbar paper any more?  Does anyone know?  Just curious.

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In an effort to return the favor, we sent me and photographer Chuck Fadely up 
to New York on an objective fact-finding trip to see if New York was a rude, 
filthy, overpriced hellhole or what.  -from _He's Not Making This Up_ by Dave 
Barry */

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Re: Do they still make greenbar paper these days?

2022-06-08 Thread Bfishing
I just found some while unpacking.
Stuff made for some great packing material.

The answer to your question however is yes.
You can even buy it on Amazon.  Sadly no printers show up in "customers
were also interested in...".

https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Computer-Perforated-Margins-15852/dp/B001E6BYFO

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 1:49 PM Bob Bridges  wrote:

> I had occasion a few minutes ago to note to myself, in a non-computer
> context, that twice 66 is 132.  "How" (an imaginary grandchild asked in my
> head) "did you know that so fast?"  The answer, of course, is that if a
> computer programmer is old enough he knows 132 characters is the usual
> width
> of the old greenbar paper, and 66 is half of that.
>
> But it led me to wonder.  Punch cards are now an expensive antique.  Do
> they
> even make greenbar paper any more?  Does anyone know?  Just curious.
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>
> /* ...The New York Times Sunday magazine ran a cover story headlined, Can
> Miami Save Itself?  The story went on for many words, but it boiled down to
> one: "No". ¶ We at Tropic were, naturally, grateful to The Times for going
> to the trouble of coming here and discovering that our city had problems.
> In an effort to return the favor, we sent me and photographer Chuck Fadely
> up to New York on an objective fact-finding trip to see if New York was a
> rude, filthy, overpriced hellhole or what.  -from _He's Not Making This Up_
> by Dave Barry */
>
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Do they still make greenbar paper these days?

2022-06-08 Thread Bob Bridges
I had occasion a few minutes ago to note to myself, in a non-computer
context, that twice 66 is 132.  "How" (an imaginary grandchild asked in my
head) "did you know that so fast?"  The answer, of course, is that if a
computer programmer is old enough he knows 132 characters is the usual width
of the old greenbar paper, and 66 is half of that.

But it led me to wonder.  Punch cards are now an expensive antique.  Do they
even make greenbar paper any more?  Does anyone know?  Just curious.

---
Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

/* ...The New York Times Sunday magazine ran a cover story headlined, Can
Miami Save Itself?  The story went on for many words, but it boiled down to
one: "No". ¶ We at Tropic were, naturally, grateful to The Times for going
to the trouble of coming here and discovering that our city had problems.
In an effort to return the favor, we sent me and photographer Chuck Fadely
up to New York on an objective fact-finding trip to see if New York was a
rude, filthy, overpriced hellhole or what.  -from _He's Not Making This Up_
by Dave Barry */

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