Re: Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

2023-08-21 Thread Brian Westerman
One of the ways we test our Syzygy automation products is to simply type the 
message on the console as if it was a regular command or the entire message we 
want to test (we also have a process to do this internally from our product, 
but I'm assuming that the OP isn't a customer so doesn't have it) .  Anyway, 
this does generate a IEE305I message saying that the command ("whatever you 
typed") is invalid, but our automation products pick it up and acts on it 
anyway.  Of course, there is a parm to turn this feature off, but as of yet, no 
one has asked us what that parm is. :)

Brian

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Re: Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

2023-08-21 Thread Dana Mitchell
I like using a system rexx exec for this, it can easily produce MLWTOs for 
testing automation:

/* REXX TEST - Rexx for issuing test messages for testing  */   
   

   
   ConnectId = 'firstline'; 
   
   Rc=AXRMLWTO(strip('CSQX548E !Q4 CSQXRESP Messages sent to local dead-letter 
queue, 467'), 'Connectid','d'); 
   Rc=AXRMLWTO(strip('channel QQM_ACCESS.TO.CSQ4'), 'Connectid','d');   
   
   Rc=AXRMLWTO(strip('reason=2053 (MQRC_Q_FULL)'), 'Connectid','de');   
   

   
   Return   
   


On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 12:40:41 -0400, Mark Regan  wrote:

>Is there a way to generate WTO messages via a batch job to check message
>suppression? At my last site, where we had NetView, we used a CLIST (or was
>it REXX), to do this.
>

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Re: Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

2023-08-21 Thread David Spiegel

Hi Mark,
Another possibility ...
Run DFSMSdss (ADRDSSU)and use the WTO/WTOR Command.

Regards,.
David

On 2023-08-21 12:40, Mark Regan wrote:

Is there a way to generate WTO messages via a batch job to check message
suppression? At my last site, where we had NetView, we used a CLIST (or was
it REXX), to do this.

Regards,

Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg
CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991)
Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017
z/OS Network Systems Programmer (z NetView, z/OS Communications Server)

Email: marktre...@gmail.com
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Re: Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

2023-08-21 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Tony,

I are right about the extra plus sign... I used this trick in the past to
attack the z.

If you want to remove the plus sign, you can write a system rexx exec to
use axrwto.

ITschak
בתאריך יום ב׳, 21 באוג׳ 2023 ב-21:30 מאת Tony Harminc :

> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 at 12:44, ITschak Mugzach  wrote:
>
> > user TSO SEND command '+IKJX0001I BLA BLA',cn(00) (or the actual name of
> > the console at your shop. It is also a tricky way to fool automation
> > products...
>
> Those automation products should be set up to check for the leading +
> sign. (In your example you've added a second + which will come out as
> ++.)
>
> That + is there precisely so that unuthorized programs can't fool
> operators (in the old days) or auto-ops these days into acting on a
> bogus message. But of course some auto-ops actions can be legitimately
> triggered by messages from an unauthorized program.
>
> Tony H.
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Re: Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

2023-08-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 at 12:44, ITschak Mugzach  wrote:

> user TSO SEND command '+IKJX0001I BLA BLA',cn(00) (or the actual name of
> the console at your shop. It is also a tricky way to fool automation
> products...

Those automation products should be set up to check for the leading +
sign. (In your example you've added a second + which will come out as
++.)

That + is there precisely so that unuthorized programs can't fool
operators (in the old days) or auto-ops these days into acting on a
bogus message. But of course some auto-ops actions can be legitimately
triggered by messages from an unauthorized program.

Tony H.

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Re: Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

2023-08-21 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Mark,

user TSO SEND command '+IKJX0001I BLA BLA',cn(00) (or the actual name of
the console at your shop. It is also a tricky way to fool automation
products...

ITschak

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On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 7:41 PM Mark Regan  wrote:

> Is there a way to generate WTO messages via a batch job to check message
> suppression? At my last site, where we had NetView, we used a CLIST (or was
> it REXX), to do this.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg
> CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991)
> Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017
> z/OS Network Systems Programmer (z NetView, z/OS Communications Server)
>
> Email: marktre...@gmail.com
> LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan
>
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Generating WTO Messages to do message suppression

2023-08-21 Thread Mark Regan
Is there a way to generate WTO messages via a batch job to check message
suppression? At my last site, where we had NetView, we used a CLIST (or was
it REXX), to do this.

Regards,

Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg
CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991)
Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017
z/OS Network Systems Programmer (z NetView, z/OS Communications Server)

Email: marktre...@gmail.com
LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan

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