AW: Re: IBM KC - How to search *within* a book? And where are the PDFs

2017-03-03 Thread Peter Hunkeler 

>SoftCopy Librarian knows of new versions of publications:
>http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24040422




This is Windows only, and for sure you need admin rights on windows to instal 
it. Just not something you usually have on your office machine.


And what about non-Windows environments? Tablets (except from Surface)? Macs? 
Linux?


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Re: IBM KC - How to search *within* a book? And where are the PDFs

2017-03-02 Thread Steve Horein 
SoftCopy Librarian knows of new versions of publications:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24040422

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Peter Hunkeler  wrote:

> >I said here on feb 22.  It's 1GB zipped and worth keeping around.  I use
> the search funcion in my PDF viewer..  I submitted an RCF on the problems
> with the index.html file; WIP:
>
>
>  I remember this, and I do have a complete set of all the z/OS PDFs on my
> iPad and on the workstation. However, in preparation of an RCF I wanted to
> have a look into the newest issue of the manual. It's unreasonable to
> download 1 GB just to have a look into a single manual, isn't it?
>
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Re: AW: Re: IBM KC - How to search *within* a book? And where are the PDFs

2017-03-02 Thread Tom Marchant 
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 12:07:58 -0500, Susan Shumway  wrote:

>check out the more formal Search Scope Catalog experiment (
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2/zos-search/zossearchscopes.html
>). Let me know what you think!

Great idea, but it doesn't work for me. I select a category and 
enter a search argument, and it takes me to a page that looks 
like the one at 
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/
even though it has more in the URL that suggests that it should 
take me to search results.

And the page asks me to "like" it, but I don't see the like button.

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AW: Re: AW: Re: IBM KC - How to search *within* a book? And where are the PDFs

2017-03-02 Thread Peter Hunkeler 

>It's completely doable in KC. I recently tweeted about the
>tried-and-true but hacky "inurl" method (
>https://twitter.com/susan_shumway/status/831199775500488704 ),


You're joking, right? You must be joking. No offence intended. So did I get 
this right:



- Firstly, I start a KC search and will get a list of hits.
- Secondly I choose one if the hits, the try to find out what's the filename is 
(from the URL in the browser I guess)
- Thirdly, I start all over with the search, but this time add that 
"inurl:" tag


Not anywhere near what I need. In BookMaster, in Library Reader, in PDFs, I can 
choose a book, then search within that book and easily jump from hit to hit. 
This is what I need.


The browser interface and with it KC is fine for some specific tasks, such as 
when I can enter the search string so that I'm getting straight to the point, 
e.g. looking up a message or a API service, etc. The browser interface is just 
a pain in the neck when I want to read a book or browse owner it. It's a never 
ending journey of clicking links and links and links. Shudder.


Others often confess here they hate JCL or they hate EBCDIC. I hate to confess 
I hate the browser, or more to the point the fact that we are being force more 
and more to do everything in a browser. Don't get me wrong, the browser and 
with it the internet is a great invention, no doubt. But, the browser is just 
not made to replace every functionality clever programs offer.


IBM DO NOT TAKE US THE PDFs AWAY.


What I need in KC is the good search capability it offers, being able to read 
hits, *and* if need comes up to click on a link right there to get the PDF.



>but also check out the more formal Search Scope Catalog experiment (
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2/zos->search/zossearchscopes.html
> ). Let me know what you think!




Same here. It returns a list of hits, but then when clicking on one, I'm left 
alone with the browser with not way to find the places in the book where the 
search key was found and to jump from hit to hit in the book.


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Re: AW: Re: IBM KC - How to search *within* a book? And where are the PDFs

2017-03-02 Thread Susan Shumway 
It's completely doable in KC. I recently tweeted about the 
tried-and-true but hacky "inurl" method ( 
https://twitter.com/susan_shumway/status/831199775500488704 ), but also 
check out the more formal Search Scope Catalog experiment ( 
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2/zos-search/zossearchscopes.html 
). Let me know what you think!


-Sue



On 03/02/17 5:16 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

I said here on feb 22.  It's 1GB zipped and worth keeping around.  I use the 
search funcion in my PDF viewer..  I submitted an RCF on the problems with the 
index.html file; WIP:



 I remember this, and I do have a complete set of all the z/OS PDFs on my iPad 
and on the workstation. However, in preparation of an RCF I wanted to have a 
look into the newest issue of the manual. It's unreasonable to download 1 GB 
just to have a look into a single manual, isn't it?


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AW: Re: IBM KC - How to search *within* a book? And where are the PDFs

2017-03-02 Thread Peter Hunkeler 
>I said here on feb 22.  It's 1GB zipped and worth keeping around.  I use the 
>search funcion in my PDF viewer..  I submitted an RCF on the problems with the 
>index.html file; WIP:


 I remember this, and I do have a complete set of all the z/OS PDFs on my iPad 
and on the workstation. However, in preparation of an RCF I wanted to have a 
look into the newest issue of the manual. It's unreasonable to download 1 GB 
just to have a look into a single manual, isn't it?


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Re: IBM KC - How to search *within* a book? And where are the PDFs

2017-03-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 07:28:51 +0100, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

>So I can't seem to find a way to search *within* a specific book, one KC 
>presents me the desired book. Am I missing something?
>
>Lack of this functionality in KC, I need the PDF. Where have the links to the 
>PDFs gone?
> 
I said here on feb 22.  It's 1GB zipped and worth keeping around.  I use the 
search
funcion in my PDF viewer..  I submitted an RCF on the problems with the 
index.html file; WIP:

So I just DLed the PDF refresh from:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/
http://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/epubs/html/c2784304/c2784304.zip

(I could wonder why a .zip of PDFs is in a /html/ directory.)
The README says:

* README *
This zip contains all the PDFs for the z/OS V2R2 4Q16 Refresh.
To search across all books, use Adobe acrobat reader and open the ".pdx" file
found in the PDF subdirectory.

I thought the previous version was 4Q16 so this should be 1Q17.

So I start browsing and get 404:

File not found

Firefox can’t find the file at 
/Users/paulgilm/Desktop/Transients/SC27-8430-04/pdf/iea3b611.pdf.

Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.
Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.

So it asks for:  
/Users/paulgilm/Desktop/Transients/SC27-8430-04/pdf/iea3b611.pdf
What's there is: 
/Users/paulgilm/Desktop/Transients/SC27-8430-04/PDF/iea3b611.pdf

... and *they* have the nerve to tell *me* to check capitalization!  It's their
link in their ".pdx" file.

Grrr.  I suppose I can rename the ".PDF" directory to ".pdf" and try again.

Windows rots the brain.

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IBM KC - How to search *within* a book? And where are the PDFs

2017-03-01 Thread Peter Hunkeler 
So I can't seem to find a way to search *within* a specific book, one KC 
presents me the desired book. Am I missing something?

Lack of this functionality in KC, I need the PDF. Where have the links to the 
PDFs gone?



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