Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
Forgot to mention that by using RACF PassTickets then you remove the potential that user-ids and passwords are visible in plain text over the network or in memory or on a DASD etc, depending on your non-PassTicket approach. Again RACF PassTickets are a big plus for security and the auditors. Keith Banham R&D Manager Macro 4 Ltd -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
Like TPX the Tubes product will cater for single password and passing on passwords to the applications, as described in the previous entries, but it also has RACF PassTicket support - once the user is Authenticated at sign-on to Tubes then it utilises RACF capabilities to authorise the sign-on to all their applications. Whatever the approach please don't expect the poor end-user to remember multiple passwords - they will only write them all down on a whiteboard! This is one of the key benefits of using a session manager - centralized security, administration and control. With also using RACF to determine what applications a user can see and use the security team maintain complete control - auditors heaven. Don't be fooled by those who say they can just open up more emulation windows - a slippery slope to lose of security and control. Keith Banham R&D Manager Macro 4 Ltd -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
I overlooked the virtues of single sign-on in TPX. Your shop has to code for it, but it allows a user to sign on to applications with various userids such as TSO and CICS. Caveat: the userid on every application must have the same password; TPX uses different userids according to application but passes along the original TPX password. A corollary of this design is that you can change your password on all applications by changing first the main TPX userid, then logging on to every application one by one. You do not have to enter the new password. All this being said, I believe that this capability is an extra-charge feature over the base product. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Longnecker, Dennis Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement I would agree with the below. The remote screen via capability is excellent for help desk. No other software required, they just enter the persons RACF ID and they instantly see what is on the persons screen and as it changes. Again, we don't have to have any software on the persons screen or have them do a single thing. Also, TPX at least, produces wonderful SMF records. So no matter what VTAM application they visit, I can produce reports on the total number of transactions they did, along with signon times for both the session manager and any VTAM applications. Oh, and if you implement it, you can have single signon to your VTAM applications. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement We depend heavily on TPX here. A session manager provides two key benefits: 1) A session manager 'holds' a session from which the user gets disconnected. Nowadays TSO/E is pretty good at reconnection, but other VTAM applications do not have this capability. There is no substitute for this function for productivity. 2) A session manager can support far more connections than any emulator I've ever seen. As a z/OS sysprog, I can limp along fairly well with just an emulator, but we have altogether several scores of CICS regions across the enterprise. TPX can orchestrate as many concurrent sessions as a user needs. A third benefit that I rarely make use of is the ability to 'move' a workstation from one location to another. I can walk to another desk even in another building and 'take over' my original TPX session. This can be especially useful for help desk/debugging activities. Fourth, Tom Brennan makes a usermod available to Vista that, together with an available usermod to TPX, causes the current session name to appear continuously at the bottom of the screen. The more sessions you have open--especially if they look very similar--the more important this feature becomes. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement I think Tubes was acquired by IBM and became IBM Session Manager in the early 2000's. We converted several systems TPX, Cl/SuperSession etc to it at the time as part of the push to convert from ISV products to IBM products. I haven't needed/worked with a session manager for many years with the easy availablity of just opening multiple Vista windows. What sort of functions provided by a session manager do you require? Dana On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:28:13 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >I've used TPX, Teleview, not sure of Teleview is now TPX, both from CA, >Tubes from MACRO4 just to name just a few Carmen > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
I would agree with the below. The remote screen via capability is excellent for help desk. No other software required, they just enter the persons RACF ID and they instantly see what is on the persons screen and as it changes. Again, we don't have to have any software on the persons screen or have them do a single thing. Also, TPX at least, produces wonderful SMF records. So no matter what VTAM application they visit, I can produce reports on the total number of transactions they did, along with signon times for both the session manager and any VTAM applications. Oh, and if you implement it, you can have single signon to your VTAM applications. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement We depend heavily on TPX here. A session manager provides two key benefits: 1) A session manager 'holds' a session from which the user gets disconnected. Nowadays TSO/E is pretty good at reconnection, but other VTAM applications do not have this capability. There is no substitute for this function for productivity. 2) A session manager can support far more connections than any emulator I've ever seen. As a z/OS sysprog, I can limp along fairly well with just an emulator, but we have altogether several scores of CICS regions across the enterprise. TPX can orchestrate as many concurrent sessions as a user needs. A third benefit that I rarely make use of is the ability to 'move' a workstation from one location to another. I can walk to another desk even in another building and 'take over' my original TPX session. This can be especially useful for help desk/debugging activities. Fourth, Tom Brennan makes a usermod available to Vista that, together with an available usermod to TPX, causes the current session name to appear continuously at the bottom of the screen. The more sessions you have open--especially if they look very similar--the more important this feature becomes. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement I think Tubes was acquired by IBM and became IBM Session Manager in the early 2000's. We converted several systems TPX, Cl/SuperSession etc to it at the time as part of the push to convert from ISV products to IBM products. I haven't needed/worked with a session manager for many years with the easy availablity of just opening multiple Vista windows. What sort of functions provided by a session manager do you require? Dana On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:28:13 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >I've used TPX, Teleview, not sure of Teleview is now TPX, both from CA, >Tubes from MACRO4 just to name just a few Carmen > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
"Don't panic." IBM Tivoli NetView Access Services ("NVAS"), IBM Program Number 5698-NAS, will be withdrawn from marketing on October 2, 2017. There is no End of Service date listed, so full support for NVAS continues. IBM CL/SUPERSESSION Version 2.1, which became generally available in December, 2015, is the replacement product. That's IBM Program Number 5601-B28. If you're interested in CL/SUPERSESSION, "talk to your friendly IBM representative." However, again, no need to panic. IBM Session Manager for z/OS (5655-U98) was withdrawn from marketing on January 2, 2017. The End of Service date is December 31, 2018. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
We depend heavily on TPX here. A session manager provides two key benefits: 1) A session manager 'holds' a session from which the user gets disconnected. Nowadays TSO/E is pretty good at reconnection, but other VTAM applications do not have this capability. There is no substitute for this function for productivity. 2) A session manager can support far more connections than any emulator I've ever seen. As a z/OS sysprog, I can limp along fairly well with just an emulator, but we have altogether several scores of CICS regions across the enterprise. TPX can orchestrate as many concurrent sessions as a user needs. A third benefit that I rarely make use of is the ability to 'move' a workstation from one location to another. I can walk to another desk even in another building and 'take over' my original TPX session. This can be especially useful for help desk/debugging activities. Fourth, Tom Brennan makes a usermod available to Vista that, together with an available usermod to TPX, causes the current session name to appear continuously at the bottom of the screen. The more sessions you have open--especially if they look very similar--the more important this feature becomes. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement I think Tubes was acquired by IBM and became IBM Session Manager in the early 2000's. We converted several systems TPX, Cl/SuperSession etc to it at the time as part of the push to convert from ISV products to IBM products. I haven't needed/worked with a session manager for many years with the easy availablity of just opening multiple Vista windows. What sort of functions provided by a session manager do you require? Dana On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:28:13 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >I've used TPX, Teleview, not sure of Teleview is now TPX, both from CA, >Tubes from MACRO4 just to name just a few Carmen > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
IBM's preferred session manager was IBM Session Manager (ISM), for which they have announced support will cease in 2018. Macro 4's Tubes for z/OS product is fully compatible with ISM and I understand many clients have migrated in a few hours without configuration changes. Tubes from Macro 4 is still being actively enhanced and the latest features include Eclipse interfaces, instant web enablement via desktops and tablet devices, and application performance monitoring. Lots of interesting features, please take a closer look at https://www.macro4.com/index.php?cID=5348. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
> On Feb 7, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: > > I think Tubes was acquired by IBM and became IBM Session Manager in the early > 2000's. We converted several systems TPX, Cl/SuperSession etc to it at the > time as part of the push to convert from ISV products to IBM products. > > I haven't needed/worked with a session manager for many years with the easy > availablity of just opening multiple Vista windows. What sort of functions > provided by a session manager do you require? IBM already had a session manager for TSO back in the early 80’s and in fact its still available (last I looked). Session manager was great once you mastered it. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Stone, Marshall wrote: >Does anyone have the link/URL for the NVAS announcement? See below URL for 5695-036. (Watch the wap!!!) http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd&subtype=sm&appname=ShopzSeries&htmlfid=897/ENUS5695-036 According to this URL below 5695-036 is supposed (?) to be replaced by 5698-NAS: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/7/877/ENUSZP04-0447/index.html And IBM's Software Withdrawel and SOD: (another wrap!) http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=an&subtype=ca&appname=plc_db2imstool&htmlfid=897/ENUS916-145 Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Hum, last place I worked, 2014 Tubes was still MACRO4 now I see on an IBM website Solution name : Macro 4 Tubes Solution description : Tubes provide a secure, user-friendly means of accessing multiple systems from a single terminal on z/OS™. Solution web page : http://www.macro4.com/solutions/products/dumpmaster/index.html nt I think Tubes was acquired by IBM and became IBM Session Manager in the early 2000's. We converted several systems TPX, Cl/SuperSession etc to it at the time as part of the push to convert from ISV products to IBM products. I haven't needed/worked with a session manager for many years with the easy availablity of just opening multiple Vista windows. What sort of functions provided by a session manager do you require? Dana On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:28:13 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >I've used TPX, Teleview, not sure of Teleview is now TPX, both from CA, Tubes >from MACRO4 just to name just a few >Carmen > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
I think Tubes was acquired by IBM and became IBM Session Manager in the early 2000's. We converted several systems TPX, Cl/SuperSession etc to it at the time as part of the push to convert from ISV products to IBM products. I haven't needed/worked with a session manager for many years with the easy availablity of just opening multiple Vista windows. What sort of functions provided by a session manager do you require? Dana On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:28:13 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >I've used TPX, Teleview, not sure of Teleview is now TPX, both from CA, Tubes >from MACRO4 just to name just a few >Carmen > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
Please note that the withdrawal is only V1.x.x - Most shops are currently on V2.1.1 of NVAS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Salah Balboul Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 8:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement Hello list, IBM announced Tivoli Netview Access Services for MVS being withdrawn come 09/10/2018. Anyone knows of a similar replacement on the market with same features? I know IBM also has the old Candle CL/SuperSession. I'm wondering if others are using non-IBM products for session management on zOS. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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We use NVAS and CA/Solve (2 different workloads) Does anyone have the link/URL for the NVAS announcement? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 8:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement I've used TPX, Teleview, not sure of Teleview is now TPX, both from CA, Tubes from MACRO4 just to name just a few Carmen - Original Message - From: "Salah Balboul" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:06:43 AM Subject: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement Hello list, IBM announced Tivoli Netview Access Services for MVS being withdrawn come 09/10/2018. Anyone knows of a similar replacement on the market with same features? I know IBM also has the old Candle CL/SuperSession. I'm wondering if others are using non-IBM products for session management on zOS. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
I have used TPX for years, since it was first marketed by Duquesne!! (It has since been acquired by Legent and then by CA.) I believe that MacKinney still markets a product called VTAM/Switch. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Salah Balboul [balbo...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 8:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement Hello list, IBM announced Tivoli Netview Access Services for MVS being withdrawn come 09/10/2018. Anyone knows of a similar replacement on the market with same features? I know IBM also has the old Candle CL/SuperSession. I'm wondering if others are using non-IBM products for session management on zOS. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
I've used TPX, Teleview, not sure of Teleview is now TPX, both from CA, Tubes from MACRO4 just to name just a few Carmen - Original Message - From: "Salah Balboul" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:06:43 AM Subject: IBM Netview Session Manager replacement Hello list, IBM announced Tivoli Netview Access Services for MVS being withdrawn come 09/10/2018. Anyone knows of a similar replacement on the market with same features? I know IBM also has the old Candle CL/SuperSession. I'm wondering if others are using non-IBM products for session management on zOS. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM Netview Session Manager replacement
Hello list, IBM announced Tivoli Netview Access Services for MVS being withdrawn come 09/10/2018. Anyone knows of a similar replacement on the market with same features? I know IBM also has the old Candle CL/SuperSession. I'm wondering if others are using non-IBM products for session management on zOS. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN